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Jeana Anderson Cohen:We always say that everything is better with friends here at A Sweat Life, and that especially applies to running. I've run a handful of time races, including one Chicago Marathon, and one thing has been true for every single one of those. I am not good at the training part, but I love the race day energy. And I've realized recently it's because I was absolutely doing it wrong. Of course training wasn't fun. I tried to train by myself and show up to race. No surprise, I hated training alone, but I love. the roar of the crowd. So today we're talking about community and running why it matters, where to find it, and how to create it for yourself. Oh, and by the way, this is a Sweat Lives podcast, We Got Goals, and I'm Gina Anderson Cohen. And joining me today is Kelly Mackevich, who leads our community, and Nimbe Juarez, who is a lot of things, but to us, Nimbe exemplifies community, and that is actually true, Nimbe, we talk about you all the time. Nimbe, Kelly, tell me what's good. Nimbe, let's start with you, because you're our guest today.Nimbe:Sure, so I'm actually in Boston this weekend, so that's something that I'm just really ecstatic about. So yeah, a lot of happy feelings.Jeana Anderson Cohen:And for the listener, this is actually the weekend coming before the Boston Marathon. Junimbe, what are you doing in Boston?Nimbe:cheering for friends on Monday for the Boston Marathon and then tomorrow, which there's an Unstinction Marathon being put on and so I will be volunteering at the finish line and cheering the runners along.Jeana Anderson Cohen:We love an unsanctioned race. Okay, Kelly, what's good?Kelly Matkovich:I'm not in Boston, I'm in Colorado and this weekend is the last weekend to ski at our local ski mountain. Closing day is on Sunday so a group of us are going, we're wearing Hawaiian shirts, we're barbecuing and we're going to have a day of it. So it'll be a fun Sunday ski day to finish out the season.Jeana Anderson Cohen:every weekend there's something very Colorado about Kelly's life. I never would have expected Hawaiian shirts but of course. Okay my good thing is patio season. So again this is April 14th at the time of recording and in Chicago it is 80 degrees which is unseasonably warm so all of the patios are open. It is like a summer Friday. today. So it's very and Nimbe, where you are too, it's very warm, right? Heat wave, heat wave. We're not complaining, but we're a little worried. All right, let's talk about running and community and Nimbe, we wanted to have you on because you run, you form community, you're a community builder, but let's all talk before we jump in about our relationship with running. Nimbe, you start.Nimbe:My relationship is a love hate. More on the little bit of a hate, but I love the aspect of actually people. Just I'm a very quiet person or I like to, I think I am, but running has made me just come out of my shell and introduce me to so many amazing, wonderful people in communities within Chicago, New York, and then just really anywhere. And so. I, the act of running is not always my favorite, but it's what comes off of it that I really, really enjoy. So that's my little bit of the relationship with running.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Kelly, what about you?Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, I agree. It's peaks and valleys for sure. And I think it really resonated with what you said, Gina, in the beginning about, I also, I kind of got into running in my mid twenties and decided I started to race a little bit and decided I was gonna run the Chicago Marathon in 2010. And I trained fairly okay for it. But then after the marathon, I was like, I'm not a long distance runner. This is not my thing. This was really hard. And I mostly trained on my own and there's so many running groups too. And I don't know why what my deal was. I don't know why. Maybe I was like nervous about being too slow or nervous about just not I don't know, I was just like, I'm going to do this on my own. And I feel like now that I've started to re love like I've fallen back in love with with running. Because I'm on Colorado trail running and I am doing it. I'm doing it by myself and also found a group to run with. And that's helped immensely. So I agree with you though, and then they sometimes like some runs feel awful and some feel great. I don't know what that is. I don't know if it's just like, if you're tired or hydration or what I mean, it's probably a bunch of things. But yeah, some some runs are awful. And some runs are like, I'm so glad I did that.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah, and for me, running has been a part of my life off and on since like child like child childhood. My first memory of like running was running around my house when I was like five years old in a circle for hours because my my mom said something about not wanting me to keep running around the house. So I obviously continued. And then to try to get me to stop, my sister and like a neighbor kept making a finish line for me to run through and I just kept going. So that was like my earliest memory of running. I remember it being for hours, but maybe it was like 20 minutes, who knows. Childhood memories are different. But I mean, like I went on to run in high school, cross country and track, and we had a really good coach, but his name's Coach Tremaine, but I don't think I realized like how- good the coaching was until I got into my adult life and realized like mobility and strength aren't a part of everyone's running routines, but we'll dig into it. Nimbe, we are very interested to hear about something you started called Friends Running. Where did the idea come from and what is it?Nimbe:Yeah, so actually not sponsored, but a sweat life. So it actually gave me the idea. And so every, like the one quote that I remember from a sweat life from my very first event is everything is better with friends. And so that's like the one thing that I wanted, like moving to New York and then being kind of back and forth, I really missed the connections being built and just like on a smaller scale because you can actually connect with somebody. So. I started friends running meetups. And so it's once a month whenever I would be back in Chicago visiting my family and I wanted to see some of my friends, I would just created a flyer and posted it on my social media. And then people showed up. Sometimes it's more than a handful of people. There was a couple of times where it was just like one other person in me, which is great. It's like building those relationships. You actually get to know somebody and it's been a really nice way to just also um show people a different side of the city so we actually run the same route every single month and it's in um from Pilsen going to Palmisano Park which is a beautiful place you can see the skyline um and then we get coffee at the end of it and so I was actually buying coffee for whoever showed up to the meetups because it's a you know what you took your time out of to out of your day And so it was just a really nice way and I'm still holding them on a once a month basis and I will continue through that even after I move back. So now that I will be moving back to Chicago, I'm super excited just to continue to build those relationships and connect with more people. And again, it's not about, I don't know what I would call it, but it's just really about connecting with people. And I really, really appreciate everybody that has shown up and the community that we're building there.Jeana Anderson Cohen:I love that. I think the idea of just using running to like deepen friendships or build friendships. It's so, it's so like simple, but it also is really powerful. And I also think there's something to be said for like those conversations you have with people when you're like running in lockstep side by side. You can get pretty deep on the trail, right?Nimbe:Very, there's a lot you can talk about. Also, if you're running long distances or longer periods of time, you're gonna have a lot of time to actually get to know somebody.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah, Kelly, what's your experience kind of running side by side with folks in your run group? And are you making big friendships?Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, I think so. So there's a group on Sunday. So a girl named Brittany like started this run group. She's only been in town maybe like six months or something. You can tell she's just like a community builder. She brings people together. She kind of started through a group called she runs this town, which I didn't even wasn't familiar with, but they're across the country, I guess. But I don't know if it's necessarily affiliated with that, but we just like get together every Sunday at 9 a.m. And yeah, I've met so many great people through it. And we're like, she's like started like a book club, like where they're doing like meetup for ice cream and walk. And so it's like expanded, you know, outside of Run Group, which I feel like happens a lot with community. Yeah, I think this like, it just feels so right for you. You're such a community builder, you meet people left and right, everyone knows you. And like speak so highly of you. Even though you say you're quiet or shy, like you, I don't know if it's like you're just really good at one on one connection. But like you're you're really good at making those connections happen. And community can be like you said, it can be two people or it can be a bunch of people. We talk about it all the time and how important it is and It's so cool to see. I know it's gonna grow and it's gonna be something that people are gonna love doing with you. HeheheJeana Anderson Cohen:Also, I remember like very vividly, maybe your first event with us, because it was hike working, right? So you came like without really like knowing what a spot life was, you came to a hiking event. So it was like an all day thing, right? Do you remember it? So you came like without really like knowing what a spot life was, you came to a hiking event. So it was like an all day thing, right? Do you remember it?Nimbe:Yes, I forced my sister to come with me because at that point I was not exploring activities by myself. That has definitely changed since then. But it was really a, I guess, life-changing event kind of thing. I had just ended a long-term relationship at that point and I was looking for community and making new friends. And as a grown-up, it is definitely hard and this event was just what I needed at the right time. I met some friends that I still talk to now, we're really great men that we actually run together sometimes. And so it was just a great full day event. And I think things changed after that in a positive way in my life. So I've always just been super thankful for the experience.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Oh man, we talk about, I mean, we honestly like, I remember we were doing this like visioning exercise internally at a sweat life and we were asked to like name our ideal community member and we're like, well, her name's Nimbe.Kelly Matkovich:Okay.Jeana Anderson Cohen:And she was like, the person we were working with was like, well, it doesn't have to be a real person. We're like, no, it's Nimbe. Her name is Nimbe, our ideal community member is Nimbe. She shows up, she makes friends, she brings more people, she has ideas. All right, I don't wanna like gush on you for too long because it's gonnaKelly Matkovich:IJeana Anderson Cohen:makeKelly Matkovich:mean, you'reJeana Anderson Cohen:youKelly Matkovich:like,Jeana Anderson Cohen:uncomfortable.Kelly Matkovich:yeah, you can, you can go showJeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah,Kelly Matkovich:me.Nimbe:Right.Jeana Anderson Cohen:I don't wanna make you super uncomfortable. ButKelly Matkovich:HaJeana Anderson Cohen:let'sKelly Matkovich:ha!Jeana Anderson Cohen:talk about running communities we admire because there's a lot to be said for like community that exists, community and running. Nimbe, do you wanna go first? What are some communities you admire?Nimbe:Yes, so there's a couple of communities, um, both in Chicago and in New York. Um, I really love to just attend different events. I wouldn't consider myself a member of one specific one. I like to just mix and match. And so I really love Tortuga's, um, family style, midway mile chasers. These are all in Chicago. And then in New York, there is a Harlem run, Rue crew, just so many different groups and the things that I appreciate here. is that they're really open to all paces. Or all paces. And this means from walkers to joggers to really fast. And it just makes it a very inclusive thing to do, which at times I think I've gone to events and I'm not super fast, but I'm also at times not super, super slow. And I felt very left out to the point where I say, I could have just did this on my own. And so I appreciate those. groups and people who actually make it an event or just like a run some sort of any kind of connection to actually be inclusive of Everybody and that way you're actually being a part of the community and not just another person that showed up Which is what makes me want to go back. It's like when somebody actually takes the time to Include me make me a part of the the place. It just makes me feel I don't know I get like the fuzzies inside and so it's a very nice feelingJeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah, I love that. Kelly, what about you?Kelly Matkovich:would agree with those communities. Nimbe, you and Tani put together a list of like, I don't know, 50 running communities that are in just in Chicago. And there's probably there's probably more. But I think that's all of them. And there's so many of them. So I feel like that is the cool part is you can find them based on your location based on like your level based on what you're you feel comfortable with. talking to Kristen, who's a running lead at Tortuga's. Her story is incredible. We talked to her and I was inspired and I was like, I wanna come to your running group. It just seems so friendly. So I was really inspired. So when I come back to Chicago, I definitely wanna check them out. I ran a little bit with 3Run2 when I was in Chicago. My husband at the time lived, has a conduit, lived in Logan Square. So we would go to that run club. But other than that, like I said, in Chicago, I was kind of doing it running by myself. And I wish I would have done more community runs, which is now what I'm more into. And Nimbe, I want to come to your, to your run group too.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah.Kelly Matkovich:What about you, Gina?Jeana Anderson Cohen:Well, I feel like Tortugas comes up so much for the for the reasons that you mentioned, you may one being like, they're so pace inclusive, like no one ever gets dropped. Which is something like when you're just starting out, people are concerned, you're concerned about like, why would I why would I show up somewhere if you're just gonna leave me? And so Tortuga's like no one's left behind. I think that's something we've heard over and over again. I was a Nike trainer back in the day. So like running with Nike was so fun. And I know they're really good at like different pace levels or they were, I think they're kind of bringing back the pacers and they're bringing back Nike Run Club. Edge, Athlete Lounge, I would call them very much so focused on performance, but they also like they have an everyone's welcome sort of vibe to them too. So you can recover and you can also like run with them outside. Robin, who is the founder of Edge, she is one of the best people on the planet. And there's so many running clubs, but I think like one of the things I'm learning through our relationship with Puma is that... Running stores are just like the best, one of the best places to find running culture and to also like start and finish a run too. So there are so many run stores, like Heartbreak Hill, like Fleet Feet, like marathon sports that have run clubs that you can join and marathon and 5K and everything in between training too. So whatever you're looking for in running, like there's a community to support it Wouldn't you say? Would you agree, guys? Ha ha ha.Nimbe:Yes. I don't know.Kelly Matkovich:How are people finding your running meetups? Is it just by like, do they need to be following you? Is that like pretty much the only place you're posting it and then kind of like friends through friends?Nimbe:Yes, so it'sKelly Matkovich:Yeah.Nimbe:just I just posted on my Instagram. That's the only place I shared it and then my friends will come So sometimes it's more of that positive peer pressure. I like to thinkKelly Matkovich:HahahaNimbe:positive pressure And yes, so it's just word of mouth and then social mediaKelly Matkovich:If youJeana Anderson Cohen:WhatKelly Matkovich:buildJeana Anderson Cohen:do you wantKelly Matkovich:it,Jeana Anderson Cohen:it toKelly Matkovich:theyJeana Anderson Cohen:become?Kelly Matkovich:will come.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah. And what do you want it to become, Nevaeh? Are you happy with it being just, not just an organic thing, because an organic thing's tough.Nimbe:Yes, I mean, I don't really, I haven't really felt too much of it. Um, as of right now, I think it's just, it's just been a fun thing to do back and forth. Maybe once I moved back fully in Chicago, I will think of something else. But for now, I just want to continue to like, actually get to know people and not just the, Hey, like what race are you training for, but actually like get to know somebody on a deeper level. So building that actual friendship, which is what it takes to like. kind of keeping accountable and seeing each other on a regular basis. So even if it's like once a month, but then you, I also run into them into like other running groups or other activities. It doesn't just have to be running, which is a nice thing. It's one activity, but there's just so many others.Jeana Anderson Cohen:All right, Kelly, let's talk about Goal for it Running. What's the program? What are the resources you've pulled together?Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, so with our community, our ambassador community, we're constantly creating programs, we're creating new ideas. And so last year we came up with the idea for this Goal4it program, which basically takes ambassadors and plus friends through a specific sport or activity. And so last year we started Goal4it running and this is the second year that we're doing it. It's a running program, it's seven weeks, it's a- trained to 5k and we're partnering with Puma, which is awesome. So a lot of our ambassadors got a Puma shoes. Thanks to Puma. And yeah, so it's just a really fun program. It's like just an additional program we're creating outside of everything else like the community already gets. But we like the idea of creating something that has some structure around it. So it's like meetups plus virtual workshops plus a lot of brand goodies. And the goal is for anyone from beginner to advanced to run, walk your way up to a 5K. So we'll finish in the beginning of June. And we're hoping that a lot of our community kind of meets up too with other running communities that are already happening around Chicago and this is nationwide as well. So yeah, it's a really great program. This is, like I said, second year we're doing it. And I think people like it. We have. 200 of our community members signed up for it and we're gonna keep growing that. So I don't know, anything else to add to that? It's really fun. We're kicking it off this weekend, which in podcast time will be the weekend previously. But what is time? Yeah, anything else to add to that?Jeana Anderson Cohen:Well, I think what's really fun is we'll have, we'll have help from friends, which is always, always important when it comes to running. So we'll have Emory or Erica Robinson, will be helping us with strength programs. So we'll have meetups once a week throughout the program with Erica to do more strength training too. Um, Kelly has organized some incredible workshops throughout as well. Um, including like running shoe rundown, which by the way, I just wrote a piece about running, about like how many pairs of running shoes you need for. Uh, running training season. And it, it can kind of be a lot. Yeah. It can kind of be a lot. Like if you're, if you're doing like a ton of running, um, the. the load you're putting on your shoes over a summer, you might eat like three or four pairs of shoes over a race season. Like you, Kelly, then I'll link to this piece that I wrote in the show notes, but you, Kelly, like you're doing trail running, so you need trail shoes. And if you're doing any running on like road or treadmill, you cannot use your trail shoes on those because they will slip. So you need road shoes too. And then you also need to rotate your shoes to like allow your shoes. I mean, like if you're doing like trail one day, road the next day, like that's efficient. But if you were doing like road every single day, you'd need a couple of pairs of shoes to rotate. So like the cushion could come back and to give your foot different stimulation. And also like, cause shoes have different purposes.Kelly Matkovich:This gets expensive.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah, yeah. This is why we need, this is why womenKelly Matkovich:Free shoesJeana Anderson Cohen:runners,Kelly Matkovich:for everyone.Jeana Anderson Cohen:yes. Yeah, you get a shoe, you get a shoe, you get a shoe. And you also should, by the way, throughout the month of May, and a little bit into June, you should follow us, Sweatlife on Instagram, because we will be giving away Puma stuff. Maybe shoes, maybe gear, who knows?Kelly Matkovich:It's always a surprise.Jeana Anderson Cohen:It's always a surprise.Kelly Matkovich:So a surprise to us too.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah, yeah. LOL. OK, what else do we want to say about running and community before we move on to show and tell? Nimbe, anything you want to see come from running and community in the next year.Nimbe:I just want more people to show up and to really just hop into it. Because it's always the overthinking, the oh, I'm not good enough, I'm not a runner, I'm not this, I'm not a mentality, should definitely change. And hopefully it's just seeing more people kind of attending all of these that are gonna get more people interested. It's just about staying healthy and then that's really it. Just seeing more people stay active and.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Hell yeah, anything to add.Kelly Matkovich:I mean, for myself personally, I have mentioned this on the podcast, I'm doing my first half trail run Memorial Day weekend. So I am running nine miles this weekend, which will be the most I've done on the trails. But that's a good point to that. Maybe you mentioned kind of like, like, or I think you mentioned kind of like recovery or just different parts of running to I something I think about, I'm always constantly I'm like sitting at a desk and then I go for a run and I need to be better about taking care of my body when it comes to recovery and rest. And I'm like, oh, why am I so tired? Well, my sleep was terrible. So maybe I shouldn't do this run. Maybe I need to change it up. So being a better, better with my training, I'd really like to focus on.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Wouldn't we all? Honestly, if we were all professional athletes, we would have like massage therapists, just, you know, like at our disposal and ice tubs, which no one likes an ice tub. And now it's time for show and tell. Let's share a tip, a resource or an article that you referenced in preparing for this podcast. Nimbe, as our guest, would you like to go first or last?Nimbe:Um, I'll go last.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Last, Kelly, do you wanna go first or second to last?Kelly Matkovich:first.Jeana Anderson Cohen:All right, Kelly, what's your tip?Kelly Matkovich:So it's not really a tip, but there's just like two things I'm thinking about. Personally, one was this girl on TikTok that I saw her she was talking about trying something new. And it was learning a new sport of sprinting. And she said that to qualify for the Olympics for the 200 meter, you need to run it in 22.08 seconds.Jeana Anderson Cohen:HaKelly Matkovich:AndJeana Anderson Cohen:ha!Kelly Matkovich:so like, I mean, she probably won't ever get to that, but it was like, she's like, I'm trying something new and I want to just try to learn how to sprint. Um, and I was like very motivated by that. Cause I actually do love going fast for very short periods of time. And I'm like, maybe that's something I could put on my board for a goal. Like learning how to sprint, like on an actual track with like track shoes and stuff, like I'm intrigued by that. The other thing is totally on the. it with running. But I've also mentioned this before in our town, we have a unique race where you race with burrows. I don't necessarily want to do the race, but I would actually just love to feel the feeling of running with the donkey, like running with a large animal. It's basically like running with your dog only like a lot more weight. And I really just want to like try it out. So these are two random things that I'm just like thinking about that I like. and I don't know, that I just want to do. And maybe someone else out there would, I'm inspiring them to try it out too. I don't know.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Do burros like to run?Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, they're pack animals. They like to carry shit and they like to, you know, move. But then they also like to not move. And you can't tell a donkey what to do. It's gonna do what it wants to do.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Oh man, thisKelly Matkovich:Yeah.Jeana Anderson Cohen:is tough. ThisKelly Matkovich:Yeah.Nimbe:Kelly,Jeana Anderson Cohen:isNimbe:you'reJeana Anderson Cohen:tough.Nimbe:theJeana Anderson Cohen:RememberNimbe:secondJeana Anderson Cohen:that time?Nimbe:person. That's right, go ahead.Jeana Anderson Cohen:No, you Nimei, you're more important. What'd you say?Nimbe:No, I was going to say that you're the second person that's mentioned this race withKelly Matkovich:Really?Nimbe:a bronchi. Yes, and I just talked to somebody about it recently. I'd never heard of it, but it sounds very intriguing.Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, it's really fun to watch, but I don't think because most of them are like you run a marathon with them and I'm like, I don't think I want to do that. But I'd love to just like try to go sprint down the road basically. That's that's what I want to do.Jeana Anderson Cohen:So I have a question. IKelly Matkovich:Yeah.Jeana Anderson Cohen:have a lot of questions, but I'm only going to ask one. You know how you have to carry your own food for marathoning? Do you have to carry, like, does the donkey carry itsKelly Matkovich:Yeah,Jeana Anderson Cohen:own food? SoKelly Matkovich:itJeana Anderson Cohen:youKelly Matkovich:carriesJeana Anderson Cohen:just pack,Kelly Matkovich:it all.Jeana Anderson Cohen:carries your food, carries its food, carriesKelly Matkovich:carriesJeana Anderson Cohen:water.Kelly Matkovich:all the things, yeah.Jeana Anderson Cohen:I don't imagine them going fast though. They kind ofKelly Matkovich:No,Jeana Anderson Cohen:seem likeKelly Matkovich:theyJeana Anderson Cohen:meh,Kelly Matkovich:go fast.Jeana Anderson Cohen:meh. They go fast?Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, I'll send you some videos. Plus,Jeana Anderson Cohen:Okay.Kelly Matkovich:I actually know someone in town. She she owns a bike shop called Blackboro bikes. And she also owns like 12 donkeys. And so I already kind of have an end with knowing someone. So I think like this could happen.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Does she have a small farm? Like,Kelly Matkovich:Yes.Jeana Anderson Cohen:is, okay, is she my future?Kelly Matkovich:Yeah. Yeah, maybe. I'll introduce you.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Nimbe, do you know my dream of having a small farm? I'd like to one day have a small farm with, and when I say a small farm, I've realized recently like how big an acre is. It's not that an acre is like a football field. So I'm thinking like four to 10 acres is what I think of asNimbe:thatJeana Anderson Cohen:a smallNimbe:small.Jeana Anderson Cohen:farm. Yeah, small farm. That's small. In terms of farms, that's small.Kelly Matkovich:What do you want on your farm?Jeana Anderson Cohen:Goats, thanks for asking. Goats, chickens, dogs.Kelly Matkovich:Do you need that many acres for...Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah.Kelly Matkovich:Oh, okay.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah, well, also plants like we're gonna grow like pumpkins and watermelon and green beans and tomatoes and strawberries. Yeah, and I think I also need cassava there, like just in case, because I'mKelly Matkovich:WhereJeana Anderson Cohen:gluten-free.Kelly Matkovich:is this farm gonna be?Jeana Anderson Cohen:Well, for all of those things to grow, it would probably need to be in California. Because that's cassava.Kelly Matkovich:I think land is pretty expensive there.Jeana Anderson Cohen:I know, I know. Cassava doesn't like cold climates. It's like a warm climate plant, but that's a really important plant to me as a gluten-free eater. But I can eat all the other stuff. We'll figure it out.Kelly Matkovich:Yeah,Jeana Anderson Cohen:We'llKelly Matkovich:becauseJeana Anderson Cohen:figureKelly Matkovich:in caseJeana Anderson Cohen:it out.Kelly Matkovich:anything happens, you wouldJeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah.Kelly Matkovich:still have something to eat. Like, you know,Jeana Anderson Cohen:Exactly.Kelly Matkovich:in case the world went haywire.Jeana Anderson Cohen:You know, yeah.Kelly Matkovich:Yeah.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Like it's my end of the world preparation.Kelly Matkovich:Hahaha.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Kusama. And I will, I'll call it like gluten-free farms or we could call it like gluten-free refuge, you know? So that people will come to me and we'll lock out the... What do we call them?Kelly Matkovich:The zombies?Jeana Anderson Cohen:Zombies. Thank you. Zombies, yes.Kelly Matkovich:Yeah,Jeana Anderson Cohen:Okay,Kelly Matkovich:the robots.Jeana Anderson Cohen:okay. Thank you for coming with me on this journey to my end of the world small farm preparation. Okay, my tip or my show and tell this week is actually from an essay that Alexi Pappas wrote in 2019 for Runner's World, which I'll link to in the show notes. She actually talked about why community matters and she listed all of the important things that we know. It's accountability, it's like someone to push you. But then also her final reason why community matters for running was community gives you a large reservoir of information to draw from. From learning about new trails to strategizing recovery plans, community offers the benefit of a body of knowledge that can lift you to even greater heights. So it's kind of like a hive brain is how she looks at community too, which is very like sport. also very like survivalist. I think of honestly like the sweat life community as a high brain too, because you know like even though you can Google stuff, recommendations are way better than Google search results.Nimbe:Yeah.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Navey, are you ready to share your tip? It's time to go last.Nimbe:All right. So mine is an article from 2020 on womensrunning.com. And so it just, I think that, well, I actually have the article pulled up, but it is called Want to Go Faster or Farther? Join a Running Group. And so it actually talks about a couple of different benefits of running with a group. And like one of the things I mentioned earlier was the positive peer pressure. And it's justKelly Matkovich:HeheheNimbe:like somebody kind of keeping you accountable. That extra little push, also like the article mentions, eating after like a run. So that aspect, like the aspect of actually like, or the something of eating and just refueling after the activity is always just super fun, especially when you're out with friends or even with new people. It's just, I don't know, it's just super fun. And so there's a couple of things that really caught my eye and just the sense of accountability and then the fun social aspect of. Going for a different activity after you've worked really hard is always just something I look forward to. Plus, I just love to eat all the time, soKelly Matkovich:Yeah,Nimbe:I think I'm positive.Kelly Matkovich:I agree with that. I say so I love to hike but one of my favorite things about hiking is afterwards getting french fries and a beer. Like I think about it when I'm hiking like I love snacks while I'm hiking. Like it's a motivator for sure.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Oh man, I think french fries are probably a reason to do anything. If frenchKelly Matkovich:Yeah.Jeana Anderson Cohen:fries are after, I'll do anything for french fries after.Kelly Matkovich:You'llJeana Anderson Cohen:Alright,Kelly Matkovich:catchJeana Anderson Cohen:let's talk.Kelly Matkovich:me the like the last like mile or two of a hike like if it's a long hike, I will just start talking about french fries to anyone that wants toJeana Anderson Cohen:HaKelly Matkovich:hearJeana Anderson Cohen:haKelly Matkovich:it.Jeana Anderson Cohen:ha!Kelly Matkovich:One time we went on a hike and this guy told me that he's like, Oh, we're gonna go to this restaurant. They have the best french fries I've ever had. They're amazing. I was like, so like just like so excited about it. We get there. And like the restaurant was closed or we couldn't getJeana Anderson Cohen:OhKelly Matkovich:in or something. And I was so sad. And we went to go to like a different restaurant that didn't have french fries. You got it like ruined my whole day.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Yeah. And like your town is not a town of like Uber Eats. It's like,Kelly Matkovich:No.Jeana Anderson Cohen:if the restaurants close, like you're out of options.Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, I mean, this was in Aspen, but yes to this town too. Yeah. Small, small mountain towns just yeah, they don't have late night food. No.Jeana Anderson Cohen:You probably are done with food at like 10, right? 8 to 10.Kelly Matkovich:Yeah, I mean, if you want to go out to dinner at nine, it's probably not gonna happen.Jeana Anderson Cohen:I don't know. I was watching Summer House on Bravo TV this week and Paige Sorbo, the cutest human probably on the planet was talking about why she didn't wanna move to Charleston. One of the reasons was you can't get Uber Eats past 10. I love it. All right, here's something we're loving this week. It will fall under food, friendship, fitness or. Fun, Nimbe, as our guest, you get to choose. You wanna go first or last?Nimbe:first.Jeana Anderson Cohen:First!Nimbe:Yes.Jeana Anderson Cohen:What are you loving?Nimbe:Actually calendar invites. I literally planning my entire summer and rest of the year and I've already sent out activities through like August and so like buying tickets all of the things and then putting them in the calendar. So that way people can actually have them very early on and then they can't cancel or I mean they canJeana Anderson Cohen:Mm-hmm.Nimbe:butJeana Anderson Cohen:They can't, yeah. Yeah, IKelly Matkovich:HeheheJeana Anderson Cohen:love that.Nimbe:they have them on the calendar.Jeana Anderson Cohen:I feel like you and I are kind of similar when it comes to plans. We love plans, we hoard them, and then we get closer to them and we're like, oh no, plans. Are you, I'm bad at morning workouts. I'm probably the 50-50 on the show. Are you still the same as me when it comes to morning?Nimbe:Yes, I really, really try. Um,Jeana Anderson Cohen:I'm tryingNimbe:but recentlyJeana Anderson Cohen:so hard.Nimbe:it's been a zero for like, I've beenKelly Matkovich:Hahaha.Nimbe:doing my workouts after work, which I don't love, but the sleeping in has been really nice.Jeana Anderson Cohen:I mean, know thyself. At a certain point, like you just gotta be like, this is me. I'm trying to get there with like just accepting what I like more. Like this is me. I like afternoon workouts. I like my mornings to myself. I don't know if I can change this. Kelly, what are you loving this week?Kelly Matkovich:Well, I was thinking about running and what I run with and I wanted to shout out after shocks, which is a headphones or earbuds. Well, it's a wraparound earbud that you wear. And what I love about it is it sits outside of your ear. So I've talked about being nervous about certain lurking animals on the trails. And so probably sometimes shouldn't even be wearing any audio on my ears. But since aftershocks sit outside of your ears, I feel like there's, you can hear a lot more around you and they're very light. So I really, I really like them. That's what I'm loving.Jeana Anderson Cohen:Hmm, don't they use bone to conduct sound? Science. Vibration. Okay, my thing I'm loving this week, maybe it's the weather, maybe it's a good mood, who knows? But I am loving my neighborhood. I live in the West Loop of Chicago. and it is just feeling like so alive. Like I love being able to walk everywhere. I love being in a neighborhood too, where I can say like, do you wanna come to me? And people are like, yeah. It's very easy to get people to come to me. So it's easy for plans, easy for my lifestyle. And my nail people are here. Like honestly, everything I need is here. Uh, this has been another episode of We Got Goals, which is an Aswetlife.com production and another thing that's better with friends. Thank you to Ryan Deffert for editing. Thanks to all of you, our listeners, for listening, liking, subscribing, reading, reviewing all of the stuff you do for podcasts. Wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you to Kelly for joining me as always. And thank you to Nimbe, Juarez for being here with us today in Boston.Kelly Matkovich:Thanks!Jeana Anderson Cohen:Bye bye!Kelly Matkovich:Bye!