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In this episode I'm sharing a chapter
1:47
from the book, Nevermore – The Haunted
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Life and Mysterious Death of Edgar Allan
1:52
Poe by Troy Taylor for the audiobook
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version, but this chapter by itself was
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so interesting to me while I was
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narrating it. I thought it would make
2:01
a great episode of Weird Darkness, just by itself.
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Plus, it gives you a little peek into what you
2:06
might get if you purchase the book itself. I've left
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a link to the book in the show notes. What
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I'm about to share is the true story
2:13
about a murder of a girl who worked
2:15
in a cigar shop, the investigation of it
2:17
by law enforcement, how Edgar
2:19
Allan Poe saw it as an opportunity
2:21
to escalate his career and name, and
2:24
how it all almost blew up in
2:26
his face, even with some
2:28
claiming Poe was the murderer of the
2:30
poor girl. If
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Darkness. Men
3:11
have called me mad, but the question is
3:13
not yet settled. Whether madness is or
3:15
is not the loftiest
3:17
intelligence, whether much that is
3:19
glorious, whether all that is
3:21
profound does not spring from disease of
3:24
thought, from moods of mind
3:26
exalted at the expense of the general
3:28
intellect. Edgar Allan Poe.
3:34
On July 28, 1841, two New
3:36
Yorkers were walking along the Hoboken
3:38
shoreline near the spring at Sybil's
3:40
Cave, then a popular tourist attraction,
3:42
when they spotted a body floating
3:45
out in the Hudson River. As
3:47
they waited on shore for the coroner to arrive, a
3:50
man walked up to them and claimed that
3:52
he recognized the corpse from its clothing. It
3:55
was, he told them, the body of
3:57
Mary Cecilia Rogers, the missing woman.
4:00
who had recently been in the papers. Her
4:02
life story is a bit murky, but
4:04
Mary Rogers was probably born
4:06
in Lime, Connecticut, in 1820.
4:09
She and her widowed mother, Phoebe, moved
4:12
to Manhattan in the 1830s.
4:15
Phoebe opened a boarding house at 126
4:17
Nassau Street, and Mary took a sales
4:19
job at Anderson's Tobacco Emporium, which had
4:22
become a fixture of New York's emerging
4:24
social scene. It was
4:26
especially popular with young men and local
4:28
writers such as Washington Irving and James
4:31
Fenimore Cooper. But while
4:33
the customers came for owner John
4:35
Anderson's Tobacco, they stayed for Mary,
4:37
who was dubbed the beautiful cigar
4:39
girl by the local press. Within
4:42
a year of starting work at the cigar
4:44
shop, Mary had become a local celebrity, even
4:47
sparking a short-lived panic when she failed to show
4:49
up for work one day in 1838. Though it
4:53
made headlines this disappearance was dismissed
4:56
as a publicity stunt for Anderson's
4:58
store. What was
5:00
it? No one knows,
5:03
but soon afterward Mary left her position at
5:05
the store and returned home to help her
5:07
mother run her business. While
5:09
her life was more private at the boarding
5:11
house, she still managed to attract a lot
5:13
of attention from men. She had
5:15
a lot of admirers who stayed
5:17
at and hung around the house,
5:19
but Mary gave all her attention
5:21
to Daniel Payne, a cork cutter
5:23
and boarder who became her fiancé
5:25
in the summer of 1841. Daniel
5:28
would also become the last person to
5:31
see Mary alive, other
5:33
than her killer, that is. On
5:35
the morning of July 25th, Mary left the Rogers
5:38
boarding house, telling her mother that she planned
5:40
to visit an aunt uptown. What
5:43
happened after that, as the hours without
5:45
word from her turn to days, remains
5:47
unknown. At first it
5:50
was suggested that she had simply run away,
5:52
perhaps in another attempt to get attention. Daniel,
5:55
though, worried about the gangs of robbers and
5:57
rapists whose exploits were then filling the house.
6:00
the pages of the papers. After
6:02
two days searching growing more condensed
6:04
that Mary had been kidnapped. He.
6:07
Had a missing notice printed. The.
6:09
Notice caught the eye of a man named
6:11
Arthur Chromium. He. Was a former border
6:13
at her mother's house that had once courted
6:15
marry. He. Took a search across
6:18
the ferry to Hoboken, arriving just in
6:20
time to witness the recovery of Mary's
6:22
body from the Hudson River and to
6:24
identify the courts. After he
6:26
was questioned by the police and they
6:28
were convinced that com aliens arrival on the
6:31
scene didn't implicate him in the murder, the
6:33
authorities turn their attention to other lead suspects.
6:36
One of the first people to questioned
6:38
was John Anderson, Mary's employer, who would
6:40
often accompanied her home in the evenings.
6:43
Even though he could offer no alibi for
6:46
the day of her disappearance, he was released
6:48
when attention began to focus on Mary's beyond
6:50
say, Daniel P. Not only
6:52
was he the last person to see Mary
6:54
alive, but there were rumors that the couple
6:57
had been fighting and that Mary had threatened
6:59
to call off to running. None.
7:01
Of that turned out to be true
7:03
and after Daniel produced a solid alibi,
7:05
the case quickly went cold. Meanwhile.
7:08
Newspapers all over the contrary kept
7:10
a running commentary about the case,
7:12
especially in regard to what they
7:14
claimed was be bungling investigation by
7:16
the New York Police. One.
7:18
Report complained about the slovenly manner
7:21
in which the Corner and Hoboken
7:23
performs his duties. While outside Philadelphia,
7:25
other papers wondered if the death
7:27
had been a suicide. Even
7:29
New York Governor William H. Seward got
7:32
involved announcing and several New York papers
7:34
he seven hundred fifty dollar reward for
7:36
any information that helped solve the crime.
7:39
Then in early September, eighteen forty one,
7:41
there seemed to be a break in
7:43
the case. A group of boys
7:45
were playing in a field in Weehawken, New
7:48
Jersey not far from where Mary's body had
7:50
been found and discovered bundles of bloody clothing
7:52
and some bushes. after the
7:55
discovery in what came to be called
7:57
be murders ticket one of the boys
7:59
mother's that illegal Loth, who operated the
8:01
nearby Nick Moore House pub, contacted the
8:04
police. But Frederica
8:06
Loth seemed to know a lot more about
8:08
the case than just about the discovery of
8:10
bloody clothes. When the police
8:12
questioned her, she admitted that Mary Rogers had checked
8:14
in to the Nick Moore House on the night
8:17
of her death with an unknown man. The
8:19
pair had gone out but had never returned to
8:22
the pub. Frederica said that she
8:24
didn't think too much of it at the time but
8:26
remembered hearing someone screaming in the woods later
8:29
that night. Although it seemed
8:31
strange that she never shared this with the
8:33
police before now, detectives were
8:35
apparently satisfied with her answers. Things
8:38
took another turn less than a month later, on
8:41
October 7, when Daniel Payne
8:43
made a trip to the murder thicket
8:45
after spending the evening drinking in Hoboken.
8:48
While sitting on a nearby bench, he
8:50
drank an entire bottle of laudanum and
8:52
died from an overdose. His
8:54
body was found only a few hundred yards
8:56
from where Mary's corpse had been discovered. A
8:59
note in his pocket read, To the world, here
9:02
I am on the spot, God forgive
9:04
me for my misfortune in my misspent
9:06
time. Without
9:08
easy answers, the press once again created
9:10
their own version of events. As
9:13
a single working woman, Mary became a kind
9:15
of symbol for the era's problems and a
9:17
warning to parents about the fate that might
9:19
befall their own daughters in the big city.
9:22
Many papers even claimed, with no evidence,
9:24
of course, that Mary had been a
9:26
prostitute and even hinted that she deserved
9:29
her fate. The
9:31
New York public might have been satisfied
9:33
with such weak solutions, but in Philadelphia,
9:36
Edgar Allan Poe was not. Mary's
9:39
first disappearance had occurred while Poe
9:41
was living in New York and
9:43
he remembered it well. As
9:45
the news of her fate reached him
9:47
through newspaper reports, he became obsessed with
9:49
the story and followed every detail. Poe
9:52
was now living well in Philadelphia. His annual
9:55
salary of $800 from Graham's magazine, although
9:58
far from a fortune, was afforded him a
10:00
stability like none he'd ever had in his adult
10:03
life. By the end of 1841, he'd
10:05
moved his wife and mother-in-law into a small
10:07
townhouse on Coates Street in the north end
10:10
of the city. As
10:12
he'd promised long ago in Richmond, he
10:14
was finally providing Virginia with the kind
10:16
of comfort she deserved. Their
10:18
new home was even furnished with a small
10:20
piano, a harp, and a pair of songbirds
10:22
in a gilded cage. On
10:25
January 20, 1842, the day after Poe turned 33, a small group
10:27
of friends
10:30
gathered in the parlor of the townhouse
10:33
to hear Virginia play the harp and
10:35
sing. It was a
10:37
perfect evening. Virginia was wearing
10:39
a white gown and looked angelic in
10:41
the firelight. As she tapped at
10:43
the keys of the piano, she sang. The
10:46
notes became higher, true and clear,
10:49
and then stopped. Virginia
10:51
clutched at her throat and then choked out
10:53
a cascade of blood, staining the front of
10:55
her dress with crimson. Poe's
10:58
face went white. He carried Virginia
11:00
upstairs, laid her on the bed, and then
11:02
ran for a doctor. Poe
11:04
must have known, even before the
11:06
doctor grimly confirmed it, that the
11:09
hemorrhage signaled the final stages of
11:11
tuberculosis. He also must
11:13
have known that her chances for survival
11:15
were slim. By
11:17
the time a patient begins coughing up
11:19
blood, they were usually beyond help. Even
11:22
if she could have been helped, perhaps by
11:24
moving to a healthier climate or by a
11:27
stay at a sanatorium, such things
11:29
were well beyond the means of an editor making $800
11:31
a year. Virginia
11:34
spent the next two weeks scarcely able
11:36
to breathe except when fanned with fresh
11:39
air. At times her
11:41
coughing became so severe that it seemed as
11:43
if she would choke to death. She
11:46
pressed a handkerchief to her mouth to cover it when
11:48
she coughed, and it was often
11:50
spattered red with blood. Heart
11:52
aching, Poe remained by her
11:54
side, brooding over the poverty-stricken existence that
11:57
he had forced Virginia into as his
11:59
wife. That was now killing her. More
12:02
than one visitor comment of the cramped
12:04
house where they lived luxurious compared to
12:06
other places where they had lived was
12:09
likely making Virginia's condition worse. For.
12:11
Sick room was so small that the sloped roof
12:13
was almost as low as her head. George
12:16
Graham pose employer noted that Pose love for
12:18
his wife was a sort of wrapped She
12:20
was worship of the spirit of beauty which
12:23
he felt was speeding before his eyes. I've
12:25
seen him hovering around her when she
12:27
was ill with all the fond fear
12:30
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Virginia's health seeped into Poe's
15:10
work, most notably in the
15:12
mentioned The Mask of the Red Death
15:15
published just months before the January attack.
15:18
He dwelt on themes of horror and
15:20
blood because even then he knew
15:22
what was coming. He'd seen it
15:24
before with his mother when he was a small child.
15:27
In Eleonora, also written in the
15:29
early stages of Virginia's illness, Poe
15:32
returned to the theme and delved
15:34
into the grim circumstances of his
15:36
new life. The story
15:38
was about a young man living an idyllic
15:40
life with his young cousin Eleonora and her
15:42
mother. All too soon,
15:44
though, Eleonora tells him that she had
15:46
seen that the finger of death was
15:48
upon her bosom that, like the Athemoron,
15:50
she had been made in perfect loveliness
15:52
only to die. In
15:55
the months that followed, Poe wavered back
15:57
and forth between optimism and utter despair.
16:00
desire. In February he told
16:02
friends that she was getting better, but
16:04
by July he declared that I have
16:06
scarcely a faint hope for her recovery.
16:09
For a time Poe threw himself
16:11
into his work, writing poems, stories,
16:13
and reviews for Graham's magazine and
16:16
finding that his reputation was growing.
16:19
When he learned that Charles Dickens would
16:21
be touring Philadelphia in March 1842 he
16:23
wrote to request an interview, sending along
16:26
a copy of his Tales of the
16:28
Grotesque and Arabesque. He
16:30
also included copies of his past
16:32
reviews for Dickens' work, attesting to
16:34
admiration for the writer he once
16:36
called the greatest British novelist. Among
16:39
them was an article he wrote about
16:41
the mystery Barnaby Rutch, written shortly after
16:43
Dickens' story began to appear in serial
16:46
form. Although the book's
16:48
conclusion would not be published for several months
16:51
Poe was able to predict, frankly,
16:53
that Barnaby, the idiot, is the
16:55
murderer's own son. Dickens
16:58
was impressed by Poe. He
17:00
gave two lengthy interviews to him
17:02
at Philadelphia's United States Hotel on
17:04
March 7, 1842.
17:07
Dickens took particular note of Poe's reviews
17:09
and would later describe him as a
17:11
man who taketh all of us English
17:13
men of letters to task in print,
17:15
roundly and uncompromisingly. Even
17:18
though the interview was part of his work for
17:20
Grahams, Poe used it to his own advantage. By
17:23
the end of the meeting, Dickens had agreed to
17:25
help Poe find a publisher in England. The
17:27
two men parted on good terms and Dickens'
17:30
work would make itself felt in Poe's own
17:32
work, especially in the case of the talkative
17:34
raven that appears within the pages of Barnaby
17:36
Rutch. Despite his position
17:38
at Grahams being the best job that
17:41
Poe had ever had, he began to
17:43
fall into the same resentful state of
17:45
mind that had led to difficulties at
17:47
his earlier positions. No
17:49
one recognized the greatness of Edgar
17:51
Allan Poe like Poe himself did.
17:54
In this case, though, Poe did have
17:56
some actual cause for irritation. The
17:59
magazine's extraordinary success was making a
18:01
fortune for Graham. But Poe's salary
18:03
had stayed the same. He
18:05
now considered them so pitiful that it was
18:07
almost an insult. As gloom
18:10
set in over Virginia's illness, his
18:12
bitterness deepened. On the morning
18:14
after the initial hemorrhage, Poe asked Graham
18:16
to advance him two-month salary to help
18:18
ease the unexpected burden. Graham
18:21
refused. At the same
18:23
time, the success of Graham's rekindled Poe's hopes
18:26
for a magazine of his own. This
18:28
was another source of grievance against his
18:30
employer, however. Graham had promised
18:32
when Poe joined his magazine that he
18:35
would help to launch Poe's own pen
18:37
magazine within a year. But
18:39
as Graham's grew in circulation and
18:41
became more profitable, the promise
18:43
was forgotten. Poe was
18:45
a victim of his own success. He
18:48
later wrote, Every exertion made by myself
18:50
served to make Graham's a greater source
18:52
of profit and left its owner less
18:54
willing to keep his word with me.
18:58
The matter reached a crisis point in April 1842.
19:01
After a brief time away caused by illness,
19:03
Poe returned to the office to find that
19:05
his duties had been taken over by Charles
19:08
Peterson, an associate editor. It
19:10
may be that Peterson simply covered for
19:12
Poe while the other man was away,
19:14
but we only know Poe's side of
19:16
it, and he was offended. Always
19:19
sensitive about his status as an editor,
19:21
he believed that he had been slighted
19:23
and perhaps even passed over for a
19:26
promotion. So, he
19:28
quit. As usual, there
19:30
would be a difference of opinion as to
19:32
whether Poe left or was fired. Graham
19:35
later said either Peterson or Poe would
19:37
have to go. The two cannot get
19:39
along together. Poe
19:41
insisted that he left to pursue
19:43
his own interests, citing his disgust
19:45
with the namby-pamby mainstream character of
19:48
the magazine and the insulting salary.
19:51
In contrast to his hostility toward Thomas
19:53
White and William Burton, though, Poe
19:55
spoke well of Graham and claimed to
19:57
have no misunderstanding with him. Whatever
20:00
the reason for leaving, Poe soon found
20:03
himself broke again. With Virginia's
20:05
illness adding to his worries, we can only
20:07
puzzle over why Poe would make such a
20:09
change. We can only
20:11
assume that he simply couldn't help
20:13
sabotaging himself. There were very
20:15
few studies of mental illness in those days,
20:18
and certainly there was no one who could
20:20
get inside the head of Edgar Allan Poe.
20:23
He often spoke of the nervous restlessness
20:25
that haunted me as a fiend, as
20:27
a reason for many of the things that he
20:29
did that might seem baffling to others. He
20:32
used the excuse of wanting to start a magazine
20:35
of his own as a reason for leaving, but
20:37
deep down he surely knew that he would never
20:39
be able to afford. He
20:41
was a man of incredible talent, but
20:44
he seemed eager to destroy his reputation.
20:47
This marked the beginning of what
20:49
some have called Poe's irregularities, which
20:52
for the rest of his life would destroy his
20:54
hopes and put his reputation into the hands of
20:56
people who hated him. Those
20:58
irregularities began almost at
21:01
once. For the most
21:03
part, Poe had stayed away from
21:05
liquor during his time at Graham's,
21:07
but now he returned to the
21:09
bottle with devastating consequences. As
21:12
mentioned earlier, Poe had a dramatically
21:14
low tolerance for alcohol. It
21:16
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21:18
he drank at all. He seemed
21:20
to have a strange reaction to it. At
21:23
a time when dram shops and
21:26
taverns lined the streets, Poe's lack
21:28
of tolerance left him uniquely vulnerable.
21:30
He could never stop with a single drink.
21:33
Even the first drink transformed him
21:36
from a personable man to a
21:38
coarse, staggering drunk. His
21:40
friend, Frederick Thomas, noted, if he took
21:42
but one glass of weak wine or
21:45
cider, it always ended in excess and
21:47
sickness. Poe's
21:49
excuses for drinking were plain enough. Virginia's
21:52
illness, his poverty, his
21:54
literary disappointments, but turning
21:56
to alcohol always made things worse.
21:59
For instance, months, over the course of the
22:01
fourteen months that he worked at Graham's, he
22:03
made about a thousand dollars in salary and
22:06
contributors' fees. His literary income
22:08
over the next three years added up
22:10
to only one hundred twenty-one dollars, all
22:13
thanks to the bottle. Poe
22:16
now abandoned his writing, or at least
22:18
began to supplement it with less taxing
22:20
forms of work. Although
22:22
he still dreamed of starting his own
22:24
magazine, he also pursued the possibility of
22:26
a job at the Philadelphia Customs House.
22:29
It was a government job, and it paid well. But
22:32
Poe failed to get a local appointment,
22:34
so he traveled to Washington in hopes
22:36
of pleading his case directly to President
22:39
Tyler, whose son Robert was a fan
22:41
of Poe's writing. Nervous
22:43
about the important interview, he attempted to calm
22:45
his nerves with a glass of pork. Soon
22:48
after he was seen stumbling around the city with
22:50
a green tint to his face and his coat
22:53
turned inside out. Poe
22:55
did not meet the President, nor did he make
22:57
a favorable impression on anyone who might have helped
22:59
him to obtain the employment he was seeking. Back
23:03
at his writing desk, Poe sought new publishers
23:05
for some of his magazine stories. Earlier,
23:08
while working at Graham's, he had written
23:10
to Lee and Blanchard, the publishers of
23:12
Tales of the Grotesque and Arabesque, to
23:14
offer a revised collection of his work,
23:16
expanded to include some new stories, like
23:19
The Murders and the Room Org. They
23:21
have declined, replying that they had not yet sold
23:24
out of the first edition. Despite
23:26
the refusal, Poe did hope to work with them again
23:28
in the future. His
23:30
hopes may have been raised further
23:32
when Lee and Blanchard published a
23:34
book by William Gilmour Sims called
23:36
Bochamp, which took inspiration from the
23:38
real-life Bochamp Sharp murder case in 1825. That
23:42
story had also been the inspiration for an
23:44
unfinished work by Poe. Believe it
23:47
or not, Poe actually admired William
23:49
Gilmour Sims and had once called
23:51
him immeasurably the best writer of
23:53
fiction in America. So
23:56
there's no doubt that he was aware
23:58
of this book and, undoubtedly, took note
24:00
of the way that Sims had crafted the
24:02
true story into a popular novel. At
24:05
the same time he must have
24:07
been irritated that Lee and Blanchard
24:09
had accepted Sims' book and made
24:11
it successful while declining Poe's collection
24:13
of stories. In
24:15
the uncertain days that followed the loss of
24:18
his editor's position, Poe's mind must have turned
24:20
in the direction of writing a story that
24:22
was based on a well-known crime. Poe
24:25
had every reason to feel that his skills
24:27
in this area were as good or better
24:29
than those of Sims. He
24:31
had long made a specialty of solving
24:33
puzzles and posing conundrums to his readers,
24:36
ranging from coded messages to this recent
24:38
success of the murders in the Rue
24:40
Morgue, but even then Poe
24:43
chided himself over the fact that
24:45
while Rue Morgue had been clever,
24:47
it suffered from the artificial contrivance
24:49
of its solution, a
24:51
puzzle he would later write created
24:53
for the express purpose of unraveling.
24:56
Poe wanted to fix his attentions on a
24:58
crime that had not yet been solved. That,
25:01
he knew, would be the true test of
25:03
his skill. He could not
25:05
be accused of constructing his own puzzle, nor
25:08
would the reader know the solution until Poe
25:10
himself provided it. This would
25:12
not only make the story dramatically satisfying,
25:14
but it would be proof of Poe's
25:16
analytical reasoning. There is
25:19
no record of how Poe chose the Mary
25:21
Rogers case for his inspiration, although we
25:23
do know that he had been following it since
25:25
its start. He remembered the
25:27
celebrated cigar girl from his time in New
25:30
York, and had followed the investigation from a
25:32
distance. The story had gotten
25:34
a lot of attention in Philadelphia, and the
25:36
crime had been heavily reported on in the
25:38
city's newspapers. The death of
25:40
Daniel Payne in October had likely brought
25:43
the case back to Poe's attention at
25:45
a time when he was especially susceptible
25:47
to writing another mystery story. In
25:50
June 1842, Poe sent a
25:52
letter to Joseph Evans Snodgrass, the
25:54
Baltimore editor with whom he had
25:56
remained friends over the years. Snodgrass
25:58
had recently taken a photo of his daughter, taken over the Baltimore
26:01
Sunday visitor, the same paper that had awarded
26:03
a $50 prize to MS
26:05
found in a bottle nearly ten years
26:07
earlier. In a letter,
26:10
Poe proposed a sequel to The Murders in
26:12
the Rue Morgue, featuring a different crime that
26:14
would be based on the murder of Mary
26:16
Rogers. He would change the location
26:19
to France, slightly alter the girl's name,
26:21
and allow his detective, Dupern, to solve
26:23
the mystery. At the same
26:26
time, Poe would be entering into an analysis
26:28
of the real tragedy in New York. He
26:31
added, "...the press has been entirely on
26:33
the wrong scent. In fact, I really believe
26:35
not only have I demonstrated the falsity of
26:37
the idea that the girl was the victim
26:40
of a gang of ruffians, but have indicated
26:42
the assassin." Poe
26:44
truly believed that, through fiction,
26:47
he could solve the real-life murder.
26:50
For all his enthusiasm about the decision
26:52
to revive Augusta Dupern for the new
26:54
story, though, it likely had more to
26:56
do with good business than solving a
26:58
mystery. Rue Morgue had
27:00
been widely praised when it was released,
27:02
and, to put it simply, Poe needed
27:04
a hit. By presenting the
27:07
new story as a sequel to a popular
27:09
one, it could also serve as an enticement
27:11
for a new collection of stories in the
27:13
future. Poe's letter
27:15
made it clear that he was not hedging his
27:17
bets. It would be easy to
27:19
move the Mary Rogers case to the safe distance
27:22
of Paris. That way, if any
27:24
of the details didn't match, he could blame it
27:26
on the change of venue. But
27:28
Poe implied that he would name the
27:30
killer and solve the case. Was
27:33
it just a ruse to make more money? Perhaps.
27:37
Poe did go on to mention that if Snodgrass was
27:39
unable to pay him at least $40, he could publish
27:42
the story somewhere else. But
27:44
that same day, he sent an identical
27:46
letter to George Roberts, editor of the
27:48
Boston notion, adding that he really wanted
27:50
to have the story published in Boston
27:53
and raised the price to $50.
27:56
Neither man took the bait. It's
27:58
possible that the price modest as
28:00
it was, seemed excessive when compared
28:02
to the material they already had.
28:05
At the time, magazine editors could
28:07
take advantage of the total absence
28:10
of international copyright restrictions by publishing
28:12
any foreign authors they pleased. Although
28:14
many editors made an effort to give
28:17
preference to America's writers, there were many
28:19
less expensive options at hand. Poe's
28:21
bargain price for his story could not
28:24
compete with the free material that was
28:26
available from overseas. Concerned,
28:29
Poe turned to William Snowden of The
28:31
Ladies' Companion in New York. As
28:34
you can imagine, it wasn't a particularly good
28:36
match. Earlier that same
28:38
year, Poe had complained about the contemptible
28:41
pictures, fashion plates, music, and
28:43
love tales that filled the pages of
28:45
Graham's. The Ladies' Companion
28:47
offered these same features many times
28:50
over, and as the title
28:52
clearly indicated, with the sensibilities of
28:54
women in mind, Snowden worked to
28:56
attract ladies of exquisite refinement and
28:58
taste, though Poe would later
29:00
deride the magazine for offering neither of those
29:03
things. A typical issue
29:05
in 1842 featured stories and poems
29:07
with titles like Birth Night Reveries
29:09
and The Smile of Love, along
29:12
with commentary on the latest dresses
29:14
and sheet music for popular new
29:16
songs. Based on this,
29:18
a story by Edgar Allan Poe seemed wildly
29:20
out of place. And
29:23
yet, it was in The Ladies' Companion where
29:25
the story would first appear. Snowden
29:28
had good reasons for wanting to publish Poe's
29:30
story. Snowden had been a
29:32
member of a group of concerned New Yorkers
29:34
called the Committee of Safety who had been
29:37
involved in trying to solve the murder of
29:39
Mary Rogers. In fact, Snowden
29:41
had been one of the largest contributors.
29:44
The committee had been very disappointed when
29:46
their efforts failed to produce any results.
29:49
Nearly a year had passed, and yet
29:51
Mary's killer still remained at large. In
29:54
accepting Poe's story for publication, Snowden may
29:56
have hoped to revive interest in the
29:58
case and spark the renewed investigation.
30:02
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30:04
companion, Poe sank into a depression, largely
30:06
brought on by the deterioration of conditions
30:09
at home. He confessed to
30:11
a friend, �The state of my mind has,
30:13
in fact, forced me to abandon all mental
30:15
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30:18
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30:20
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33:13
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33:16
divided it into three installments that would
33:18
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33:21
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33:25
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33:27
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33:34
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33:39
likely took a pause before releasing
33:41
Poe's graphic blood-drenched tale. Still,
33:44
even though a year had passed since the death
33:46
of Mary Rogers, Snowden knew that
33:48
people were still fascinated by the fate
33:51
of the beautiful cigar girl. Only
33:54
every reader of The Ladies Companion would be
33:56
familiar with the story, and perhaps had even
33:58
visited the area where body had been found.
34:01
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34:04
theories about the case and the fact that
34:06
it was unsolved. Poe's
34:08
story, no matter how unseemly in
34:10
its details, was familiar ground
34:13
for New Yorkers, even if
34:15
the action had been transferred to Paris. Poe
34:18
changed the names but kept most
34:20
other details the same. And
34:22
in case there was any doubt as to the inspiration
34:24
of the story, Poe's unnamed narrator,
34:26
the friend of C. Augusta Dupern, offered
34:28
a clear statement of intent in the
34:30
opening pages of the story, echoing
34:33
the words that Poe had included in his
34:35
letter to prospective publishers. The
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extraordinary details which I am now
34:39
called upon to make public will
34:41
be found to form, as regards sequence
34:44
of time, the primary branch of
34:46
a series of scarcely intelligible coincidences whose
34:48
secondary or concluding branch will be recognized
34:50
by all readers in the late murder
34:53
of Mary Cecilia Rogers at New
34:55
York. In
34:57
reading the story, these coincidences, a
35:00
term Poe used to indicate a
35:02
calculated design rather than an accidental
35:04
happening, soon became apparent. Poe
35:07
introduces the working-class woman Marie Roget,
35:09
the daughter of Estelle Roget, who
35:12
keeps a boarding house. Marie
35:14
had a job with a perfumer, Monsieur LeBlanc,
35:16
and the shop became notorious thanks to the
35:18
charms of the lovely young woman. Readers
35:21
soon learned that a man named Bervet
35:23
wanted to marry her, but Marie became
35:26
engaged to a man named Saint Eustoch
35:28
instead. After Marie had
35:30
worked behind the counter of the perfumery for
35:32
about a year, her admirers were thrown into
35:34
confusion by her sudden disappearance from the shop.
35:37
LeBlanc is unable to account for her
35:40
absence, while the newspapers are calling for
35:42
action and the police are getting ready
35:44
to investigate, Marie reappears, in good health
35:46
but with a somewhat saddened air. No
35:50
explanation for her vanishing is offered, except
35:52
to say that it was a private
35:54
matter. Five months
35:56
later, Marie leaves home to visit an
35:58
aunt but never arrives. After
36:00
four days, her battered corpse is found
36:02
floating in the sand. And
36:06
well, you get the idea. It's the same
36:08
story as that of Mary Rogers, just taking
36:10
place in Paris. Poe
36:12
was careful to insert a number of
36:14
details taken from the official accounts of
36:16
the Mary Rogers investigation, drawing
36:18
in particular from statements by Daniel
36:21
Payne and Alfred Cromelian, who are
36:23
represented by St. Eustoc and Burvey.
36:26
He also used the testimony of the
36:28
Hoboken coroner, Dr. Cook, so that his
36:30
story would mirror the actual murder. He
36:33
used crucial details, indicating that a strip
36:35
of fabric found at Marie's waist was
36:37
tied in a sort of hitch, and
36:40
that the strings of Marie's bonnet had been
36:42
tied in a knot that was not a
36:45
lady's but a slip or sailor's knot. As
36:48
the story goes on, the details continue
36:50
to run parallel with the events of
36:52
the New York investigation. Though
36:54
a speedy solution to the crime is
36:57
expected, the police soon found her. False
37:00
arrests are made, and rumors spread. Eventually,
37:03
the scene of the murder is found in some
37:05
woods near a public house owned by a woman
37:07
named DeLuc, who claims to have seen Marie in
37:09
the company of a young man of dark complexion.
37:12
Finally, St. Eustoc is found dead with a
37:15
vial of laudanum in his hand. In
37:17
spite of this, the police make no
37:19
progress in solving the case, which leads
37:21
them to ask Dupin for help. The
37:24
first installment ends with the narrator stating,
37:27
I waited for some explanation from Dupin.
37:30
He, along with the readers, had to wait
37:33
until the magazine's next issue. As
37:36
with the serial publication of Charles Dickens'
37:38
novels, it was likely thought that spacing
37:40
out the story would generate suspense and
37:42
give Poe more time in which to
37:44
turn the publicity to his advantage. Unfortunately
37:47
though, Snowden did a pretty poor job
37:49
of dividing up the manuscript, cutting
37:51
it without any regard for the flow of the
37:53
story. The first section
37:55
broke off almost in mid-sentence during
37:57
a discussion of floating bodies, and
37:59
second, ended abruptly in the middle
38:01
of Dupern's contemplation of the murder scene. These
38:04
interruptions did nothing to encourage the
38:06
reader's continued interest. Regardless,
38:09
Poe was encouraged by the warm response
38:11
of friends and colleagues after the first
38:14
installment appeared. His spirit lifted
38:16
further when the conditions at home started to
38:18
improve. Virginia's health had gotten
38:20
better, and as he wrote to a friend,
38:22
perhaps all will yet go well. Although
38:25
Poe was still broke, he hoped that
38:27
Marie Roget would restore some of the
38:30
status that he'd lost after leaving Graham's
38:32
and helped secure his own dream of
38:34
starting a literary journal. The
38:36
second installment was supposed to appear during
38:39
the third week in November and the
38:41
third and final section, which Poe knew
38:43
would contain the dramatic solution would be
38:45
published during the holiday season. Poe
38:48
was so confident of his deductive skills
38:50
that he promised to solve the real-life
38:52
case of Mary Rogers in the final
38:55
section of the story. He
38:57
wrote, all argument founded upon the
38:59
fiction is applicable to the truth, and
39:01
the investigation of the truth was the
39:03
object. The conclusion
39:05
of the mystery of Marie Roget was going
39:07
to be the talk of New York, he
39:09
believed, and perhaps it would
39:11
have been if not for an incident that
39:14
brought the name Mary Rogers back into
39:16
the newspapers and derailed
39:18
Poe's plans for a
39:20
definite solution to his
39:22
fictionalized story. On November
39:25
1, 1842, Frederica Loss,
39:27
proprietor of Nick Moore's Tavern in Weehawken,
39:29
was accidentally shot by one of her
39:31
sons while he was cleaning his gun.
39:34
She spent the next ten days dying
39:36
in agony, babbling incoherently in
39:38
a string of broken English in
39:41
German. Hallucinating, she claimed
39:43
that the spirit of a young woman
39:45
was tormenting her and then made her
39:47
final confession. As the New
39:49
York Tribune reported it, Mary Rogers had
39:51
come to Hoboken in company of a
39:54
young physician who undertook to procure for
39:56
her a premature delivery, in
39:58
other words, an illegal abortion. abortion. Mary
40:01
had died during the operation, after
40:03
which Loss's sons had dumped the
40:05
body in the river and scattered
40:07
the clothes to avoid suspicion. Following
40:11
their mother's death, the two eldest, Lost
40:13
sons were briefly charged in connection with
40:15
Mary's murder, implicated, at least,
40:17
in the illegal disposal of the body. The
40:20
lack of hard evidence, other witnesses, and
40:22
Mrs. Loss's condition during her confession were
40:25
too much for the court, however, and
40:27
the case against them was quickly dismissed. The
40:31
police did turn their attentions to
40:33
Madame Restel, a female physician
40:35
and professor of midwifery who had a
40:37
career as an abortionist that was so
40:39
well known that some called her the
40:41
wickedest woman in New York. Madame
40:44
Restel, whose real name was Anne Trowe Lohmann,
40:46
had come to New York from England in
40:48
1831 and started on
40:50
a professional path that would earn her an
40:52
estimated $1 million and
40:54
a lavish Fifth Avenue brownstone that was
40:57
dubbed the mansion built on baby skulls.
41:00
At the time of Mary Rogers' death, Madame
41:02
Restel was also in the news. In
41:04
July 1841, just days before
41:06
Mary's body was discovered, she was
41:08
tried in New York's Court of
41:10
Special Sessions for administering certain noxious
41:13
medicine and procuring a miscarriage by
41:15
the use of instruments the same
41:17
not being necessary for the preservation
41:19
of life. Abortion was
41:21
still a misdemeanor at the time, but the
41:23
case in which Madame Restel was being tried
41:25
had resulted in the death of the patient.
41:28
This elevated her charge to murder.
41:31
In the end, she was convicted and sentenced
41:33
to spend a year in prison, but
41:35
never served the time. At
41:38
the time, Madame Restel ran her business
41:40
from a house on Chambers Street, not
41:42
far from Phoebe Rogers' boarding house and
41:44
steps away from City Hall. The
41:47
fashionable address allowed her to draw customers
41:49
from every social class in New York.
41:52
She also ran a network of abortion shops
41:54
that stretched across the river to Hoboken.
41:57
The newspapers were filled with a possible story
41:59
of ties between Madame Rastel and
42:01
Mary Rogers, but the police
42:03
gazette worked especially hard to draw a
42:06
link between the abortionist and the cigar
42:08
girl. After the death
42:10
and alleged confession of Frederica Loss,
42:12
the rumors and suppositions assumed the
42:14
tone of established fact. Although
42:17
there was no official connection between Rastel
42:19
and Loss, it was assumed that Nick
42:21
Moore's tavern was one of the abortion
42:23
shops under Rastel's management. Some
42:26
accused Loss of performing an operation
42:28
on Mary Rogers, while others suggested
42:30
that she had simply provided the
42:32
facilities for an anonymous physician. As
42:35
mentioned, Horace Greeley's Tribune was the first newspaper
42:37
to go on record and claimed that Mary
42:40
had died as the result of an abortion.
42:43
It would not be the last, despite the
42:45
fact that there was no actual evidence of
42:47
it. As soon as
42:49
the story ran, however, Justice Gilbert Merritt,
42:51
who had overseen the investigation of the
42:53
case, stepped forward to smother the claims.
42:57
He insisted that the newspaper had gone too
42:59
far with its reporting. He
43:01
stated that the story was inaccurate and
43:03
that he did not receive a confession
43:05
from Mrs. Loss, who was in a
43:07
deranged state of mind. But the Tribune
43:09
refused to back down. Although
43:12
Greeley admitted that he had made an error
43:14
when saying the confession had been made directly
43:16
to Merritt, he continued to insist that a
43:19
confession had been made. "'We
43:21
gave the facts as they were told to
43:23
us by two magistrates of his city,' he
43:25
insisted, "'and we understood them on the authority
43:27
of a statement made by Mr. Merritt himself
43:29
to Mayor Morris.'" The
43:32
editors of the competing New York Herald
43:34
were thrilled to see that Greeley's paper
43:36
had botched the story. To
43:38
underscore the mess, they reprinted the
43:40
Tribune's original story and then reprinted
43:42
Merritt's denial right next to it.
43:45
When Greeley repeated his claim that
43:47
two magistrates had corroborated the story,
43:50
the Herald demanded their names. The
43:53
Tribune declined to respond. Justice
43:56
Merritt, meanwhile, stayed out of the public fray,
43:59
in spite of his denial of tales about the story, he
44:01
firmly believed that the events had transpired the
44:03
way the Tribune had reported it, and
44:05
that Mrs. Loss's sons were also involved.
44:08
He just didn't have the evidence to prove it.
44:11
On November 19, a week after
44:13
the death of Frederica Loss, a hearing was
44:16
convened in the court of Justice Stephen Lutgens
44:18
of Jersey City. Mrs. Loss's
44:20
two oldest sons were subjected to a
44:22
grueling round of questions, designed to expose
44:25
the nefarious nature of the Nick Moore
44:27
House and their mother's role in the
44:29
death of Mary Rogers. By
44:31
all accounts, the hearing was a confused
44:34
and disappointing affair. A
44:36
team of lawyers working for the Loss
44:38
family objected to most of the questions,
44:40
and the sons easily turned aside the
44:42
accusations against them, dismissing the most serious
44:44
charges as nothing but hearsay. The
44:47
hearing closed on an inconclusive note, with
44:50
no charges being filed, but this
44:52
didn't stop the city's newspapers from reuniting
44:54
behind the idea that Mary had died
44:56
during an abortion. The case
44:59
remained legally unexplained, but it was believed
45:01
that the recent statement of the manner
45:03
of her death is true. Again,
45:06
though, this seems hard to believe. At
45:09
the initial inquest, the coroner had stated
45:11
that Mary had been brutally violated by
45:13
no fewer than three assailants, but
45:15
also asserted that prior to that, Mary had been
45:18
a virgin. According to the
45:20
new theory of the crime, the coroner
45:22
had mistaken evidence of a horribly botched
45:24
abortion with a sexual assault, which seemed
45:26
unlikely. If true, though, it
45:29
left other questions unanswered. Mary
45:32
had been found with a lace cord tied
45:34
around her neck and deep fingerprint bruises on
45:36
her throat. Whatever may
45:38
have clouded the coroner's mind about her
45:40
feminine region, he had been perfectly clear
45:43
about the evidence for strangulation. He
45:45
described in detail the mark left by the
45:47
lace cord and the bruises in the shape
45:49
of the man's fingers, a
45:52
bungled abortion, no matter how horrific, could not
45:54
account for the clear signs of the young
45:56
woman being strangled. The
45:58
theory also failed to account for the case. for the behavior of
46:01
Mrs. Loss and her sons. The
46:03
discovery of Mary's clothing and the murder
46:05
thicket brought attention to Mrs. Loss and
46:07
the Nick Moore house. If
46:10
in fact Mrs. Loss had been operating an
46:12
abortion shop there, why would she have called
46:14
attention to herself? Up
46:16
to the point where she came forward with
46:18
Mary's personal effects, there had been no connection
46:21
between the tavern and the murder. But
46:24
even with all the doubts and contradictions,
46:26
the idea that Mary had perished during
46:28
an abortion became the solution to the
46:30
case for the public. Newspapers
46:32
began declaring that the mystery has
46:34
at last been solved. This
46:37
eagerness to accept an unproven solution had
46:39
more to do with a sense of
46:41
public outrage than evidence. Thanks
46:44
to the abortion angle, as well as
46:46
the many editorials crying out for reform
46:48
and punishment for Madame Restel, the
46:50
Mary Rogers story took on a new
46:52
and even darker atmosphere. At
46:55
the same time, Mary herself began to
46:57
be seen in a different and unflattering
46:59
light. If the accusations
47:01
against Mrs. Loss were true, then
47:04
the beautiful cigar girl could no longer
47:06
be seen as an innocent victim. She
47:09
was now an unfortunate, if not
47:11
entirely blameless victim of a barbaric
47:13
practice. She was to be
47:15
pitied for certain, but she was also
47:17
a casualty of her own sins. In
47:21
the middle of all of this, though, it
47:23
was easy for people to overlook the fact
47:25
that it had not been clearly established that
47:27
an abortion had actually taken place. By
47:30
the end of November, the uproar in the
47:32
press had subsided, though further developments
47:34
were expected. Newspapers hoped that
47:36
a final resolution would be coming soon.
47:39
For now, they admitted, there was nothing further to
47:41
be learned. As once stated,
47:44
this mysterious matter sleeps for the
47:46
present. For Poe,
47:48
this new drama in Weehawken could not
47:51
have come at a worse time. The
47:54
third and final installment of Marie
47:56
Roget, which included his solution to
47:58
the case, was only days away from
48:00
publication. Until the news
48:02
of Mrs. Loss's confession and death,
48:05
Poe believed that he had crafted
48:07
an elegant and entirely plausible theory.
48:09
Now, as the idea that Mary Rogers
48:12
had died during an abortion was spreading
48:14
like wildfire, Poe's conclusion would
48:16
be proved false, opening him
48:18
up to devastating public humiliation at the
48:20
very time that he was trying, again,
48:23
to restore his reputation. The
48:25
critics would be ruthless. There were
48:27
many in New York that had not forgotten
48:29
the stinging reviews that he had printed in
48:32
the Southern Literary Messenger. There was
48:34
also the delight he had taken in
48:36
savaging Theodore Faye's book, which had also
48:38
been inspired by a sensational murder case.
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Poe had gone out of his way to
48:43
sneer at the poetical licenses that Faye had
48:46
taken. Now that Poe had
48:48
done the same thing, he could only
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passion for Edgar Allan Poe Poe
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wasn't simply a melancholy author who
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wrote about premature burials, sinister black
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cats and talking ravens He
50:45
was much more. If you've
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ever read a modern mystery or horror
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novel you can thank Poe Poe
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invented the modern mystery story, mostly
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invented science fiction and was the
50:56
first writer to take the horror
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stories of the gothic era and
51:00
set them in modern times Starting
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a trend that continues today With
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a lifelong interest in Poe, Troy Taylor
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decided to take his own look at
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the mysterious and macabre writer His
51:13
tragic life, unexplained death
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and lingering hauntings He
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invites listeners along to delve into
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the strange and bizarre world of
51:22
Edgar Allan Poe From his early
51:24
life to his tragic marriage, his
51:26
insane grief, his dramatically failed
51:29
career His links to an
51:31
unsolved murder and the mystery of
51:33
what happened to the writer in
51:35
the five days before his unexplained
51:37
death Even more
51:39
than a century and a half later, no
51:41
one knows what happened to Poe before he
51:43
was found delirious on the streets of Baltimore,
51:46
Maryland Why
51:49
did he disappear and then show up
51:51
in an incoherent state wearing another man's
51:53
clothes? Where did he go
51:55
when he vanished and who was the mysterious
51:57
Reynolds that Poe whispered about in his life?
51:59
his dying breath. And
52:02
perhaps strangest of all, does he
52:04
haunt the mysterious graveyard where his
52:06
body is buried? Nevermore
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The Haunted Life and Mysterious Death
52:11
of Edgar Allan Poe. Written by
52:13
Troy Taylor. Narrated by Darren Marlar.
52:16
Find a link to the book
52:18
on the audiobooks page at weirddarkness.com.
52:28
Poe began discussions with the influential
52:30
Philadelphia editor Thomas C. Clark about financing
52:50
the magazine. When Clark
52:52
agreed to enter into a partnership with him
52:54
Poe had every reason to believe that his
52:56
dream would soon be realized. He
52:58
told a friend that George Graham had
53:00
recently made him a good offer to
53:02
return to Graham's, but he felt so
53:04
sure about the deal to launch the
53:06
stylus that he declined. As
53:08
he wrote to the friend, the difficulties that
53:11
impeded me last year have vanished and there
53:13
will now be nothing to prevent success. Poe
53:17
desperately needed that success. His
53:20
financial problems had worsened and sent him
53:22
to new depths of poverty. Worse
53:25
yet, according to his friend Frederick Thomas,
53:27
Poe had started drinking again to excess,
53:29
leaving his home and his sick wife
53:31
in a state of agitation and despair.
53:34
An acquaintance who ran into him during this
53:36
time described how Poe begged him for fifty
53:38
cents so that he could buy a meal.
53:41
Then in November Poe's plans for
53:43
the stylus were dealt a serious
53:45
blow. The financing of
53:47
the magazine had been contingent on Poe
53:49
getting that position at the Philadelphia customs
53:52
house, the job prospect he had ruined
53:54
by being drunk. That was
53:56
followed the very next day by the news of
53:58
the developments in Weehawken. That
54:00
news was printed in a Philadelphia newspaper
54:02
under the headline, New York
54:05
Mystery Solved. Poe
54:07
knew that he had to act at
54:09
once. The first two installments of
54:11
the story had already either appeared or were just
54:14
about to in the case of the second part.
54:16
The third and final installment with the
54:18
solution was scheduled for the following month
54:20
and may have already been set in
54:22
type. If it appeared
54:25
as originally written, Dupin's theories would
54:27
look completely misguided considering what was
54:29
now happening. Even more
54:31
embarrassing, all of Poe's brash claims at
54:33
the start of the story about his
54:35
own solution to the mystery would be
54:37
exposed as having been an empty boast.
54:41
It was too late for Poe to make any changes
54:43
to the first two installments of the story, but
54:46
the third and final section was still in
54:48
the hands of William Snowden. Changes
54:50
could be made. Poe calculated the
54:52
odds, picked up his pen, and began trying
54:54
to plot his way out of the mess
54:56
that he found himself in. As
54:59
he struggled to salvage his story, Poe
55:01
took a close look at what he
55:03
had already written and then tried to
55:05
rework the fiction and facts to build
55:07
a new theory. He drew
55:09
a clear parallel between Marie's disappearance from the perfumery
55:11
and the episode from the life of Mary Rogers
55:14
when she vanished for a brief time from the
55:16
tobacco shop in 1838. In Dupin's mind, the murder
55:21
and the earlier disappearance had to be
55:23
viewed as two parts of a single
55:25
event. If so, the man
55:27
who lured Marie away from home in 1838 and
55:30
the man she went to meet on that fateful
55:32
day in 1841 were one and the same. In
55:36
linking the two disappearances in this way, Poe
55:38
opened a new line of thought. Although
55:41
the earlier disappearance had not been completely
55:43
overlooked in the New York investigation, the
55:46
episode didn't draw much comment in connection with
55:48
the murder. Poe suggested that
55:50
the New York police had missed an opportunity
55:53
by concentrating their energy only on the crime
55:55
of 1841. Poe believed
55:58
that by giving equal weight to
56:00
the earlier disappearance, it would provide an
56:02
entirely new way to track the murderer,
56:05
which of course, Duppen does in the
56:07
story, suggesting that Marie planned to
56:09
elope with a secret lover, not
56:11
her fiancée, St. Eustoc, but the man
56:13
she disappeared with the first time. Duppen
56:17
and Poe believed that the
56:19
second episode was merely a continuation of
56:21
the first event, not
56:23
a second unrelated entanglement. But
56:26
who was this mysterious man? This
56:30
is where things get complicated. In
56:32
the story, Duppen points to a young
56:34
naval officer much noted for his debaucheries.
56:37
Poe plucked this character from real life. In
56:40
a New York Herald article from August
56:42
3, 1841, there is mention of this
56:44
possibility. It read, This young girl, Mary
56:47
Rogers, was missing from Anderson's store three
56:49
years ago for two weeks. It
56:51
is asserted that she was seduced by an
56:53
officer of the U.S. Navy and kept at
56:55
Hoboken for two weeks. His name is well
56:57
known aboard his ship. These
57:00
three lines are the only known reference
57:02
to a naval officer being
57:05
implicated in the affair. But
57:07
Poe, through Duppen, fastened on this brief
57:09
mention and whipped it into a theory
57:12
of the crime. Once
57:14
he explained his reasoning, Duppen boldly pronounced
57:16
that the murderer would be captured, leaving
57:18
the reader to believe that a resolution
57:21
might be revealed in the real-life drama
57:23
too. But Poe
57:25
had backed himself into a corner. The
57:27
murderers in the room morgue had offered a
57:30
tidy ending. Poe had no sooner
57:32
laid out his conclusions than the murderer arrived with
57:34
a knock at the door. This
57:36
time would not be so easy, but
57:38
it did promise an even more dramatic climax.
57:40
It was a story that was happening in
57:43
the real world at the same time that it was being played
57:46
out on paper. Of course, this
57:48
was Poe's biggest problem. Since the
57:50
actual Mary Rogers investigation had failed
57:52
to produce a solid arrest, Poe's
57:55
story could not name a villain without
57:57
deviating from established fact. Poe
58:00
had sketched out a compelling theory, but
58:02
he didn't leave himself a way to create
58:04
a satisfying ending. Unlike
58:06
Rue Morgue, there would be no
58:09
climactic confrontation and no unmasking of
58:11
the killer. When
58:13
Poe ended his tale, he printed the
58:15
name of the killer, but it was removed
58:17
from the manuscript by the editors, or so
58:19
he claimed. In Editor's
58:21
Note explained, For reasons which
58:24
we shall not specify, but to which
58:26
many readers will appear obvious, we have
58:28
taken the liberty of here omitting from
58:30
the manuscript placed in our hands such
58:32
portion as details following up the apparently
58:34
slight clue obtained by Dupin. We
58:36
feel it is advisable to state, in brief,
58:38
that the result desired was brought to pass,
58:41
that an individual assassin was convicted,
58:43
upon his own confession, of the
58:45
murder of Marie-Rouget, and the
58:47
prefect fulfilled punctually, although, with reluctance, the
58:49
terms of his compact with the Chevalier.
58:53
Poe leaves the reader to understand
58:55
that Dupin's conjectures were entirely and
58:57
brilliantly correct and that the villain
59:00
was apprehended precisely along the lines
59:02
of investigation he suggested. Instead
59:04
of joining in the discovery, the reader is
59:06
asked to accept that it happened off stage.
59:10
Although it clearly states that Poe supplied
59:12
the killer's identity in the story, the
59:14
editor is cast in the role of
59:16
a censor and removes the presumably thrilling
59:19
details for unstated reasons of propriety. It's
59:21
a clever way of handling it, but this bait
59:23
and switch leaves the reader with the feeling of
59:26
having missed an important part of the story. The
59:29
third installment of The Mystery of Marie-Rouget
59:31
appeared in February 1843 with
59:34
no explanation for the delay of one
59:36
month. The story made a
59:38
startling impression on its readers for whom the
59:40
details of the Mary Rogers case were still
59:42
closely recalled. In one
59:45
review, critic Thomas Dunn English praised the
59:47
story and noted its connection to the
59:49
real-life unsolved case. He wrote,
59:51
To this day, with the exception of the
59:53
light afforded by the tale of Mr. Poe,
59:55
in which the faculty of analysis is applied
59:58
to the facts, the whole matter is completely
1:00:00
shwearing. routed a mystery. We think he had
1:00:02
proven, very conclusively, that which he attempts. At
1:00:04
all events, he has dissipated in our mind all
1:00:06
belief that the murder was perpetrated by more than
1:00:09
one." Although
1:00:11
Poe had no specific references to Mary
1:00:13
Rogers' presumed death at the hands of
1:00:15
an abortionist, he did strip away that
1:00:17
idea that many still had about Mary
1:00:19
being raped and murdered by a gang
1:00:21
of men. This aligned well
1:00:23
with the public perception of the case. The
1:00:26
previous year, when it was thought that Mary
1:00:28
had fallen victim to a gang of criminals,
1:00:30
the newspapers had united in calling for a
1:00:32
more efficient police force. But now,
1:00:34
in the wake of Mrs. Loss's death and the
1:00:36
drama that went with it, the editorial
1:00:39
pages were calling for the law to crack
1:00:41
down on abortionists. Any
1:00:43
kind of publicity attached to the story was
1:00:45
good for Poe. It put him
1:00:47
back in the spotlight and restored his reputation.
1:00:50
But it also had a few who were not
1:00:52
fans of the writer to ask other questions about
1:00:54
Poe. It was not long
1:00:56
after the story was published that people began
1:00:58
to speculate that perhaps Poe knew more about
1:01:00
the real Mary Rogers case than he was
1:01:02
willing to disclose. Did Poe
1:01:05
know who the actual killer was and
1:01:07
just couldn't name him in print? Later,
1:01:10
Poe blurred the line between Mary Rogers and
1:01:13
Marie Roget as best he could. He
1:01:15
received many letters about the story from readers,
1:01:17
including one that he responded to from George
1:01:20
Eveleth in January 1848. Poe wrote, "...nothing
1:01:24
was omitted in Marie Roget but what
1:01:26
I omitted myself. The naval officer
1:01:28
who committed the murder confessed it, and the
1:01:30
whole matter is well understood. But for the
1:01:33
sake of relatives, this is a topic on
1:01:35
which I am let's not speak further." This
1:01:38
further increased the suspicion that Poe knew more
1:01:40
than he was saying. John
1:01:43
Ingram, an early biographer of Poe, later added
1:01:45
to the confusion about the naval officer. Talking
1:01:48
about the story in 1874, Ingram
1:01:50
insisted that it was based in fact. Although
1:01:53
the incidents of the tragedy differed widely
1:01:55
from those recounted in the tale, the
1:01:57
naval officer implicated was named Spencer. Ingham
1:02:01
didn't elaborate further, and he offered no
1:02:03
source for the identification of the officer,
1:02:05
though it may have come from Sarah
1:02:07
Helen Whitman, a young widow that Poe
1:02:09
knew in his last years. Those
1:02:12
who have followed up on this tantalizing clue
1:02:14
have tracked it to a prominent seagoing family
1:02:17
headed by a Captain William Spencer. At
1:02:19
first glance, he seems to be a promising suspect.
1:02:22
He was known to have been in New York in both 1838 and 1841, and
1:02:24
his family was
1:02:28
influential enough to cover up any scandals,
1:02:30
as was assumed the naval officer's family did
1:02:33
to keep him from being arrested. However,
1:02:35
Captain Spencer would have been 48 years old
1:02:39
at the time of Mary's murder, too
1:02:41
old to be her young lover. However,
1:02:43
Captain Spencer did have a nephew who would
1:02:46
have been the right age. Philip
1:02:48
Spencer was a young midshipman who was also
1:02:50
in New York during the times in question.
1:02:53
In 1842, a year after Mary was murdered,
1:02:56
he was hanged at sea for attempting
1:02:58
to start a mutiny, an incident that
1:03:00
inspired Herman Melville's Billy Budd. But
1:03:03
Poe's theory required the officer to have
1:03:05
also been involved in Mary's disappearance in
1:03:07
1838, when Philip Spencer
1:03:09
was a 15-year-old schoolboy at an academy
1:03:11
150 miles from the city.
1:03:14
A more compelling theory places the
1:03:17
blame on Daniel Payne, Mary's fiance.
1:03:20
His suicide at Weehawken certainly seems to
1:03:22
point to a guilty conscience. In
1:03:24
this theory, Payne learns that Mary is
1:03:26
pregnant and helps her to arrange an abortion
1:03:29
at the Lost Tavern. In
1:03:31
gratitude, Mary agrees to marry him but
1:03:33
then changes her mind after the procedure
1:03:35
is finished. In a rage,
1:03:37
Payne strangles her but then, unable to
1:03:39
live with himself, takes his own life
1:03:41
two months later. This
1:03:44
is an interesting idea because it accounts
1:03:46
for both the abortion and for the
1:03:48
obvious signs of death by strangulation. The
1:03:51
problem, though, is that Payne had an alibi.
1:03:53
He was one of the first suspects and
1:03:55
the police thoroughly looked into his whereabouts and
1:03:58
movements on the day Mary went missing. and
1:04:00
the following day too. And
1:04:03
that leads us to Alfred Cramellion,
1:04:05
the ex-suitor who identified Mary's body.
1:04:08
Mary is known to have called at his office at
1:04:10
least two times in the days before her death. Although
1:04:13
it's plausible that she came seeking money to
1:04:15
pay for an abortion, it's also plausible that
1:04:17
Cramellion might have believed that Mary had fallen
1:04:19
in love with him again. When
1:04:21
she told him that she hadn't, he might have
1:04:23
killed her. But Cramellion too had
1:04:25
an alibi for the time of the murder.
1:04:28
He also made a nuisance of himself with the
1:04:30
police during the search for Mary that it seems
1:04:32
he had little to hide. Also
1:04:35
in Poe's theory, the killer also knew Mary back in
1:04:37
1838 when she first vanished. Neither
1:04:40
Cramellion nor Daniel Payne knew her three
1:04:43
years earlier. But
1:04:45
there was someone who did know Mary
1:04:47
Rogers at the time of her first
1:04:49
disappearance, tobacco shop
1:04:51
owner John Anderson. His
1:04:54
interest in Mary seems to have exceeded that
1:04:56
of a typical employer.
1:04:58
Mary and her mother lived with him for
1:05:00
a time before purchasing the boarding house and
1:05:02
when Mary quit her job at the cigar
1:05:04
store, Anderson is said to have literally got
1:05:06
on his knees and begged her to stay.
1:05:09
Anderson's business grew steadily in the years
1:05:12
after Mary's death. He invested
1:05:14
in real estate and became one of the wealthiest
1:05:16
men in the city. For all
1:05:18
his success though, it was impossible for him
1:05:20
to escape from the suspicion that he might
1:05:22
have had something to do with the death
1:05:24
of the beautiful cigar girl. Rumors
1:05:27
spread that he had been having an affair with
1:05:29
her, leading perhaps to an
1:05:31
unwanted pregnancy and its deadly consequences.
1:05:34
He had managed to suppress the information that he
1:05:36
had been interrogated by the police in connection
1:05:38
to the crime, but the stories about him
1:05:40
didn't stop, creating the impression that
1:05:43
one of New York's leading citizens had
1:05:45
a very ugly skeleton in his closet
1:05:47
that he wanted to hide. This
1:05:49
seemed to destroy any political ambitions that
1:05:52
he had. At one point,
1:05:54
political power brokers tried to encourage Anderson
1:05:56
to run for the office of mayor,
1:05:58
but Anderson declined. fearing that the
1:06:01
publicity would cause even more speculation about
1:06:03
his links to the Mary Rogers case.
1:06:05
He grew bitter later in life and
1:06:08
frequently blamed Mary's death for thwarting his
1:06:10
political misfortunes. His business
1:06:12
partner, Felix McCloskey, recalled one occasion when
1:06:14
they walked past the place that had once
1:06:17
been the Rogers boarding house, and Anderson
1:06:19
cursed the young girl's memory as the cause
1:06:21
of driving him out of politics and belittling
1:06:23
him in New York. On
1:06:26
another occasion, McCloskey quoted him as saying, I
1:06:28
want people to believe that I had no
1:06:30
hand in taking her off, but
1:06:32
then added that he hadn't anything directly himself
1:06:34
to do with it. That's
1:06:36
a statement that seems to leave a lot
1:06:39
unsaid about what Anderson knew and
1:06:41
when he knew it. Years
1:06:43
passed and Anderson became involved in the
1:06:45
spiritualist movement, the belief that the dead
1:06:47
could and did communicate with the living.
1:06:50
He confided to several friends that he
1:06:53
was now in regular communication with Mary's
1:06:55
spirit. He said she appeared to
1:06:57
him in the spirit from time to time. I
1:07:00
have had a great deal of trouble about Mary
1:07:02
Rogers, but everything is settled now. I
1:07:04
take great pleasure in communicating with her face to
1:07:06
face. An
1:07:08
attorney who looked into Anderson's business affairs
1:07:10
in later years said that the murder
1:07:12
made an impression which he was in
1:07:15
after years never able to shake off
1:07:17
and which, when his faculties began to
1:07:19
fail, an old age creep upon him
1:07:21
lent a controlling force which undermined his
1:07:23
intellectual powers. Anderson
1:07:25
eventually withdrew into a mansion in
1:07:28
Tarrytown where he installed steel-lined shutters
1:07:30
to ward off a threat that he was
1:07:32
unable to name. He came
1:07:34
to believe that his children were trying to
1:07:36
poison him and that his cook was plotting
1:07:38
to kill him by putting pins in his
1:07:40
roast beef. Anderson
1:07:42
died in Paris in November 1881. He was 69 and he had outlived
1:07:44
Mary Rogers by 40 years.
1:07:50
At the time of his death, he was
1:07:52
widely believed to be insane. Some
1:07:55
said that Mary's spirit had driven him
1:07:57
that way. As
1:07:59
a result of his mental instability his heirs would
1:08:01
contest his final will and testament for
1:08:03
more than a decade. It
1:08:05
was during this period of legal wrangling in May,
1:08:07
1887, that discussion occurred about
1:08:10
Anderson, Poe, and the mystery of
1:08:13
Marie Roget. There was a
1:08:15
claim that Anderson had hired Poe to write
1:08:17
the story to draw suspicion away from himself.
1:08:21
No evidence exists to say this did or
1:08:23
didn't happen, but it is not as far-fetched
1:08:25
as it might seem. It should
1:08:28
be remembered that Poe and Anderson were
1:08:30
acquaintances, and that Poe, as the author
1:08:32
of the ill-fated Conchologist's first book, would
1:08:34
have been known by Anderson as a
1:08:36
man willing to undertake almost any sort
1:08:38
of hack work for a price. It
1:08:41
should also be noted that in 1845 Poe took
1:08:44
over the helm of a magazine called
1:08:46
the Broadway Journal, and that
1:08:48
two weeks later advertisements for Anderson's
1:08:50
tobacco emporium began running in its
1:08:52
pages. At a
1:08:54
time when Poe desperately needed money
1:08:56
to save the struggling magazine, Anderson
1:08:58
paid in advance the three months'
1:09:00
worth of advertisements. He was
1:09:02
the only tobacconist in the city to do so.
1:09:05
While this does not prove that
1:09:08
Anderson commissioned Marie Roget as a
1:09:10
smokescreen, it is certainly interesting. There
1:09:13
is also a bit more. Bélix McCloskey,
1:09:15
Anderson's business partner, later testified that Anderson
1:09:17
had told him that Marie had received
1:09:19
an abortion the year before her murder
1:09:21
took place, and that he got into
1:09:23
some trouble about it. Outside of
1:09:26
that, there was no grounds on earth for anybody to
1:09:28
suppose he had anything to do with the murder. Although
1:09:31
McCloskey's memory of dates may have been
1:09:33
a little off when he recalled this
1:09:36
fifty years later, it does suggest that
1:09:38
Marie's first disappearance came about because of
1:09:40
an abortion. Whether Anderson
1:09:43
was responsible for the pregnancy or merely
1:09:45
paid for it is unclear, but
1:09:47
the recollection that he got into some
1:09:49
trouble about it certainly explains his sensitivity
1:09:51
about the murder as the years went
1:09:53
by. Even if Anderson had
1:09:56
nothing to do with the events of 1841, which remains an
1:09:59
open question, he would have placed
1:10:01
himself in a delicate situation if he had
1:10:03
provided the money for the earlier abortion, especially
1:10:06
if Mary died while undergoing a
1:10:08
second operation three years later. Even
1:10:11
if, as he later claimed, he had
1:10:13
no hand in her taking off, his
1:10:16
part in the earlier abortion, whatever it was,
1:10:18
would have branded him as a villain who
1:10:20
helped set her on the path to destruction.
1:10:24
Given the level of outrage about the case,
1:10:26
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1:10:29
suspicion turned against him. But
1:10:31
if the killer wasn't John Anderson, then who
1:10:34
could Poe have gained his intimate knowledge of
1:10:36
the crime from? Was he
1:10:38
covering up for someone else? Or,
1:10:40
worse yet, could the writer have been involved in
1:10:42
the crime? There are those
1:10:45
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1:10:47
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A few theorists have suggested that Poe met
1:13:35
the young woman while visiting the shop of
1:13:37
his friend, John Anderson. If
1:13:39
Mary did have an abortion three years before
1:13:42
she vanished, perhaps Anderson encouraged her
1:13:44
to become involved with some of the well-known
1:13:46
and often wealthy clients of the store. Could
1:13:49
this explain a relationship that Poe might
1:13:51
have had with Mary if a relationship
1:13:54
existed at all? It
1:13:56
had long been suggested that Poe engaged
1:13:58
in romances outside of his marriage, and
1:14:01
by the time he returned to New York
1:14:03
with his wife and mother-in-law, Virginia, was already
1:14:05
ill. This could have driven him
1:14:07
into the arms of Mary Rogers. However,
1:14:10
by the time Mary died, Poe was living
1:14:12
in Philadelphia. He stated that he only
1:14:15
learned the case in the newspapers. But
1:14:17
could he have been in New York? It
1:14:19
wasn't a long journey between Philadelphia and New York,
1:14:22
even in 1841, so
1:14:24
it's possible that Poe could have made the
1:14:26
trip. But was
1:14:28
Poe capable of murder? At
1:14:31
this period in his life, Poe was
1:14:33
oppressed by poverty and a lack of
1:14:35
literary recognition. He was continuing
1:14:37
to fight his battles with alcohol, and his
1:14:39
wife was dying. To
1:14:41
his family and friends, he appeared physically, if
1:14:43
not mentally, ill. Poe's
1:14:46
state of mind was mirrored by many of
1:14:48
the characters in his stories. He
1:14:50
gave his literary creations the opportunity
1:14:52
to indulge in crime, murder, and
1:14:54
bloodshed, and it's been suggested that
1:14:57
these characters were simply the darker
1:14:59
side of Poe himself. They
1:15:01
committed the deeds that he would never
1:15:03
dare to act on himself. Or
1:15:06
wouldn't. Could
1:15:09
Poe, in a moment of mental
1:15:11
or alcohol-induced frenzy, have surrendered
1:15:13
to the dark instincts that he kept
1:15:15
trapped inside and allowed the bizarre behavior
1:15:18
of his written characters to emerge? Could
1:15:21
he have killed Mary Rogers? Most
1:15:24
would say no. But behavioral
1:15:26
psychologists have demonstrated that criminals
1:15:28
often give tips to reveal
1:15:30
their identities to the police,
1:15:33
especially those consumed with guilt and with
1:15:35
a subconscious desire to be caught. Was
1:15:38
this what Poe was doing when he
1:15:41
gave his decisive hint about the identity
1:15:43
of Marie Roget's murderer? The
1:15:45
writer was, just like the killer in the
1:15:47
story, described as dark skinned, with
1:15:50
a full head of black hair falling
1:15:52
over his large forehead. Before
1:15:55
we go any further with this, I will step
1:15:57
in and say that this is very unlikely. As
1:16:00
others have found, though, it is intriguing. There
1:16:03
is, of course, no evidence to link
1:16:05
Poe to Mary Rogers' murder aside from
1:16:08
that he probably knew her, frequented the
1:16:10
cigar store, and was acquainted with John
1:16:12
Anderson. Even so, there
1:16:15
are many who argue that Poe simply knew
1:16:17
too much about the case. His
1:16:19
story was just too detailed for a man
1:16:22
turning a newspaper story into a fictional tale.
1:16:25
Poe did rewrite portions of the story
1:16:27
to fit his imagined effect and,
1:16:30
as we'll soon see, made even more
1:16:32
changes before it appeared in a collection of
1:16:34
his stories. But does
1:16:36
that point to his guilt?
1:16:40
Did he know things about the case that
1:16:42
no one else possibly could? Did
1:16:44
he really know what went through the mind of
1:16:46
a killer? Again,
1:16:48
probably not, but it
1:16:51
is interesting to consider how
1:16:53
literary history might have been
1:16:55
dramatically altered if Edgar Allan
1:16:57
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1:16:59
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