Cosmetic chemists are beauty’s new influencers, and we have two of the best in the game in this next episode of our new podcast series, “Why is no one talking about” (where experts cover unexplored, sometimes taboo hot takes on mind, body, food and skin). Nerd out as beloved chemists Michelle Wong (@labmuffinbeautyscience) and Esther Olu (@themelaninchemist) debunk “dirty lists,” explain whether clinical testing matters and expose the overhyped “clean beauty” apps that everyone seems to be using these days. For more fact-revealing stories on skin health, be sure to check out wellconnected.murad.com.