0:00

The city of Indianapolis

0:00

and between 50 and 80,000.

0:05

People love each other very,

0:05

very much. And they get

0:09

together, and they make a

0:09

convention about board games.

0:27

Hello, and welcome. I'm Jake.

0:28

I'm Rachel.

0:29

And we are so bored.

0:32

The Podcast where each episode

0:32

we take a close look at a

0:35

tabletop game and discuss our

0:35

personal experiences with said

0:38

game to help answer the

0:38

question. Will this cure

0:41

boredom?

0:42

That's right, we

0:42

normally look at the mechanics

0:45

complexity and replayability in

0:45

a game to determine if it's the

0:48

perfect alternative to say, I

0:48

don't know getting to the

0:52

airport two hours before your

0:52

flight, then being told that

0:55

your flight is delayed by an

0:55

hour. So you decide to explore

0:58

all the other sections of the

0:58

airports and find the best

1:00

restaurant. And then you're told

1:00

that your flight is leaving

1:03

right now, right this second

1:03

now, while you're literally as

1:07

far away from your gate as you

1:07

could possibly be. So you rush

1:11

to pay for your food and run

1:11

across the airport and you get

1:14

there and then you're told that

1:14

your flight isn't leaving for

1:16

another two hours.

1:17

This does actually sound

1:17

quite familiar. You also forgot

1:22

to mention the part where we got

1:22

into the hotel at 5:30am instead

1:26

30am.

1:29

Yes. This may sound

1:29

familiar to what happened in our

1:34

last episode where Jake was

1:34

complaining about getting

1:37

delayed at the airport. But

1:37

guess what? It happened again?

1:41

Thanks, Southwest. So good

1:41

times. That was our trip getting

1:46

to Gen Con very fun.

1:48

Yep, it was.

1:49

But by the way, today,

1:49

we're talking about Gen Con. But

1:54

first, let's talk about streaming.

1:56

Yes, we have started

1:56

streaming again on a regular

1:59

basis on our channel. We are

1:59

going to be streaming on

2:03

Wednesday evenings. That's going

2:03

to be depending on a Wednesday,

2:07

five or seven ish in the

2:07

evening. Pacific Eastern. Oh,

2:13

no. Pacific route. We live on

2:13

the other East Coast. Yes. We

2:20

live on the east coast. Yes. And

2:20

I am going to get back to a

2:26

regular streaming schedule as

2:26

soon as I can. Just with

2:29

everything that's been happening

2:29

and Gen Con and everything. I

2:33

haven't been streaming as much

2:33

in fact, I haven't really even

2:36

played video games all that much

2:36

lately. You can find our Twitch

2:40

dot tv slash so board podcast.

2:40

That's S O B O ARD and I am on

2:46

Twitch as well at

2:46

twitch.tv/naughty Dock 541

2:50

That's NAU GH TYD OC 541. I just

2:50

got a new game today. I'm very

2:56

excited about playing on stream.

2:56

It's a dating sim. Oh, yes. Is

3:03

it the pigeon one? No. And it's

3:03

not hataful boyfriend. It is a

3:08

Dead by Daylight killers dating

3:08

sim. Ah, yes. Yeah. You're

3:14

dating killers from another

3:14

video game in this dating sim. A

3:18

very excited. That sounds

3:18

ridiculous. It does. It looks

3:22

amazing, though. Like amazingly

3:22

hilarious.

3:25

Okay. Well, the last

3:25

announcement before we really

3:30

get into what we were talking

3:30

about today. So we're talking

3:32

about Gen Con, we went there and

3:32

we spent way too much money. But

3:38

we're giving some of it back to

3:38

you.

3:41

Not the money though.

3:43

Not the money, but all

3:43

the money that we spend on

3:45

things. We're giving some of

3:45

that back to you. Yes. So this

3:50

is I don't know what to call

3:50

this. This is our Christmas in

3:53

August, that sort of boring name

3:53

and my

3:55

birthday giveaway

3:58

is your birthday. Happy

3:58

birthday.

4:01

I know my birthday will

4:01

have been four days before this

4:06

released on the 12. So we're

4:06

going to be doing a giveaway for

4:11

not only celebration to Gen Con,

4:11

but my birthday. So you all get

4:15

crappy gifts because I'm a

4:15

crappy gift giver.

4:18

Actually, I think this

4:18

is pretty awesome. Because

4:21

usually our giveaways are a

4:21

single game. And this time, we

4:25

not only have more than one

4:25

game, we have more than one like

4:31

a bundle of games that we're

4:31

giving away to more than one

4:35

winner. And so I'm really really

4:35

excited about this. We've got

4:39

three bundles of games that

4:39

we're giving away. So I am

4:44

calling these the backpack

4:44

bundle. The monsters bundle and

4:49

the people bundle. Yes.

4:51

One of yours gonna get

4:51

just a big stack of people.

4:55

Yes. All it is, is like

4:55

a little girl Holding a giant

5:01

bag of meeples, the meeple people, the meeple people, the backpack

5:04

bundle is a bunch of smaller

5:11

games, card games or games that

5:11

come in small boxes that can

5:14

easily fit in your backpack, you

5:14

can take, you know, on a road

5:17

trip or something. The monsters

5:17

bundle contains several games

5:21

that have monsters or just

5:21

inhuman creatures, I guess. And

5:28

then the people bundle has has

5:28

games that feature more kind of

5:33

real life type stuff, where

5:33

people leave things going on.

5:37

But it's pretty cool, because

5:37

what we actually did was, there

5:41

was a mystery box sale going on

5:41

at the everdell booth. And the

5:47

money that you spend on buying

5:47

these mystery boxes goes towards

5:51

Toys for Tots, we decided to buy

5:51

two of these mystery boxes. And

5:56

we have taken the games kind of

5:56

out of that and mix match to

6:00

them. Along with some other

6:00

games that Pandasaurus very

6:04

generously gave me for working

6:04

with them. So go to our social

6:10

media, Facebook, Instagram,

6:10

Twitter to see pictures of what

6:14

is actually in each of these

6:14

bundles, and you'll be able to

6:19

enter our giveaway on Facebook,

6:19

it's going to be a gleam

6:22

giveaway, there's multiple ways

6:22

to enter. Most of them are free.

6:27

There's like maybe one or two

6:27

that you could spend some money

6:31

on. Yes. Just like, I don't

6:31

know, subscribing to us on

6:36

Twitch or something.

6:37

Yes, that may or may not

6:37

be an option this time. Yeah,

6:41

now that we made affiliate, now

6:41

we need subscribers, you know,

6:46

I'm not gonna make it so

6:46

that like, that's the only way

6:49

to win though. It's going to be

6:49

worth a decent number of

6:52

entries, because you are paying

6:52

real money for it. But I'm not

6:56

going to make it. So it's like

6:56

1000 to one chances or something

6:59

like that.

7:00

This will be pretty fair,

7:00

it will be a significant amount

7:04

of entries, you will still have

7:04

a fair chance without paying any

7:08

money. We want to make sure that

7:08

everybody understands that. This

7:11

is not a pay to win society that

7:11

we're running here.

7:15

Exactly.

7:16

We're not blizzard. You

7:16

know, we're not running Diablo

7:19

immortal.

7:21

I don't know anything about that.

7:22

Oh, it's bad. Like in

7:22

order to max out your character.

7:26

I think you have to spend

7:26

hundreds of 1000s of dollars.

7:29

That's ridiculous. Yeah.

7:29

Yeah, no, that's definitely not

7:32

what we're going for. No. But

7:32

anyway, go check it out. It will

7:37

be open for about a month. So

7:37

you've got plenty of time to go

7:40

and enter. But three winners

7:40

three bundles a bunch of games.

7:44

Yeah, please check it out.

7:46

All right. So we're talking about our

7:47

adventures at Gen Con. What is

7:51

Gen Con?

7:52

Well, Gen Con is when the

7:52

city of Indianapolis and between

8:00

50 and 80,000. People love each

8:00

other very, very much. And they

8:04

get together. And they make a

8:04

convention about board games.

8:10

I love it. Yeah. That

8:10

was a really good explanation.

8:15

I'm glad that it was okay.

8:15

It is actually the longest and

8:20

largest running gaming

8:20

convention in North America. As

8:25

I said it does take place in

8:25

Indianapolis didn't always used

8:28

to be other places. And then it

8:28

used to be called something

8:32

else. I mean, this goes back

8:32

into it's over 50 years old,

8:36

this convention. But it's all

8:36

about board games, and general

8:42

nerd culture. It's great. I

8:42

loved it. Despite my crippling

8:47

social anxiety, and having

8:47

80,000 other people around me it

8:51

was really good.

8:53

Okay, so some actual

8:53

stats. It wasn't 80 According to

8:58

what I found, I couldn't find an

8:58

exact number, but it was

9:01

somewhere around 50,000

9:01

attendees. So that's still quite

9:06

a lot. It is the largest, like

9:06

gaming convention in North

9:10

America. Also, there was 530

9:10

companies they're exhibiting

9:15

this generated approximately

9:15

$57.4 million in economic

9:21

activity for restaurants, hotels

9:21

and local businesses in the city

9:25

of Indianapolis, and over

9:25

$40,000 was raised for the

9:31

potter Chu foundation. Sorry if

9:31

I'm pronouncing that wrong, but

9:34

that is a nonprofit that

9:34

provides meals and learning

9:37

experiences to children in

9:37

Indianapolis.

9:39

See, I didn't know that.

9:39

But that's awesome.

9:42

Yeah. I'm not sure what

9:42

exactly contributed to that if

9:45

it was just like parts of ticket

9:45

sales, or certain things that

9:49

you could buy that were

9:49

contributing to that. That's an

9:52

article that I found.

9:53

That's really cool. And

9:53

we're actually going to link

9:56

that article if you're

9:56

interested in learning more

9:58

about Gen Con and And what it is

9:58

and where the finances and

10:02

revenue came from, you could go

10:02

look at that later would that's

10:05

not really what we want to talk

10:05

about in the episode. But it is

10:08

interesting to some people. So

10:08

our experiences at GenCon This

10:12

is my first very large

10:12

convention. And the last time we

10:18

did a convention episode, we

10:18

talked about days what we did on

10:20

this day and the next day, and

10:20

the next day, we're going to do

10:22

something different. This time, we're going to talk about specific aspects of Gen Con in

10:24

different sections. So first,

10:29

we're going to talk about the

10:29

exhibition hall. This is the

10:31

main section of Gen Con, this is

10:31

where the retailers are. This is

10:37

where all the booths are, this

10:37

is where the nerds come, if you

10:41

build the exhibition hall, the

10:41

nerds will come.

10:45

I wouldn't say it's the

10:45

main part of it. The gaming Hall

10:49

is just as large.

10:52

Right. But when you think

10:52

of a convention, this is what

10:54

you're thinking of. Sure. Okay.

10:54

Yes. So at ComiCon, I'm sure

10:59

there are gaming tables there as

10:59

well. But that's not what you're

11:02

thinking of, you're thinking of

11:02

the booths, you're thinking of

11:05

the merchandise you're thinking

11:05

of the main section to see all

11:09

the stuff. That's what I think

11:09

of when I think of convention.

11:13

Okay, so tell us about it.

11:15

Well, it was huge. As you

11:15

said earlier, there were over

11:17

530 companies exhibiting I got

11:17

lost looking at booths, like I

11:22

would go and find one booth that

11:22

was really cool. And I would

11:26

spend 10 15 minutes in it. and

11:26

think, Oh, I'm gonna come back

11:30

to this later because to give

11:30

you an idea, there was one

11:34

booth, odd Fish Games booth that

11:34

I kind of wanted to shout out

11:37

that they did something that I

11:37

thought was really unique. They

11:41

had these little tins these

11:41

round TINs that were filled with

11:45

these different multicolor

11:45

almost bead like things, and

11:49

they were all labeled things

11:49

like cinematic gunfight engine

11:53

room, fairy circle, fertile

11:53

farmland Goldmine, pool of acid.

12:00

So different locations or

12:00

different environments,

12:04

environments is a good word for

12:04

it. And when you open up the

12:08

tins, it makes that smell it

12:08

smells like that. One of the

12:12

ones that really impressed me

12:12

was the warm bakery smell. It

12:15

smelled so good.

12:17

Yeah, so I had just met

12:17

up with Jake and he was kind of

12:20

exploring this booth. And he

12:20

walks up to me, and he's like,

12:22

smell this. Like, I don't know

12:22

what this is. But okay, I go and

12:26

smell it. I'm like, Oh my gosh,

12:26

that smells delicious. this

12:30

What is designed for is to

12:30

create a more immersive

12:33

environment for your role

12:33

playing games. So people playing

12:36

Pathfinder, Dungeons and

12:36

Dragons, any sort of TableTop

12:39

RPG, we think of sight and

12:39

sound. But smell is not

12:45

something that is ever really

12:45

addressed. And it actually does

12:50

create a very immersive

12:50

environment when you include

12:53

smell. So that was one booth

12:53

that I found. And then I kind of

12:57

lost it. I meant to go back to

12:57

it later. And I couldn't find it

13:00

because there's just so many.

13:00

Another booths I wanted to go

13:04

back to was a booth called Tea

13:04

and Absinthe. They just had a

13:08

bunch of different teas. I went

13:08

to them once. And I got one

13:13

sampler of one of their teas

13:13

called Irish whiskey. I haven't

13:17

tasted it yet. It sounds really

13:17

good. There's another T location

13:22

that I meant to get to that was

13:22

on the all the way on the other

13:24

side of the exhibit hall. And I

13:24

mean, all the way they're not

13:28

close together. I think the

13:28

exhibit hall is probably half a

13:32

mile long or longer. I don't

13:32

know about that half a mile.

13:37

Yeah. From one end to the other.

13:37

It's

13:41

over a quarter mile,

13:41

maybe a third of a mile, about a

13:44

third

13:45

of a mile walk one way to

13:45

the but they're filled with

13:48

booths. So it's not like you can

13:48

just see where you want to go,

13:52

like, gotta walk up and down

13:52

these aisles and you get lost.

13:55

And anyways, point being there

13:55

was another tea place that I

13:58

heard had really good tea,

13:58

didn't make it to it.

14:01

Yeah, so the exhibition

14:01

hall was absolutely massive.

14:05

However, I feel like the

14:05

creators of Gen Con did a really

14:08

good job of helping you get

14:08

around, there was an online map

14:13

that was actually linked on your

14:13

badge with a QR code. So you

14:17

could just scan your badge and

14:17

it would automatically pull up

14:20

this map where you can go and

14:20

type in and search for whatever

14:23

game company or whatever booth

14:23

or you know, whatever you're

14:28

looking for, you could type it

14:28

in and it would pinpoint it and

14:31

show you where exactly where it

14:31

is on the map. Now, sometimes it

14:35

would be helpful to also have a

14:35

you are here, pin but I didn't

14:39

have too hard of a time kind of

14:39

orienting myself and figuring it

14:43

out because you can you know,

14:43

you can just look around and see

14:46

where you are. And okay, let me

14:46

do a search for I'm at the

14:50

renegade booth. Oh, okay. So

14:50

this is where I am and then I

14:54

search for the thing I really

14:54

want and you can kind of orient

14:56

yourself there. But the point is

14:56

that I feel like they prove

14:59

provided you with a good and

14:59

accurate resource to really help

15:05

you get around. Because without

15:05

that, I mean, I would have never

15:10

found anything. So like Jake was

15:10

working at the steeped games

15:16

booth, that was one of the first

15:16

things I did was I typed in that

15:19

steep games into that map to

15:19

figure out where we needed to

15:22

go. Because otherwise, you're

15:22

just left with whatever, like

15:25

major landmarks. And I don't

15:25

know, some people are good at

15:29

dealing with that. Me not so

15:29

much. If you tell me that you're

15:33

right next to the eBay booth,

15:33

I'm expecting you to be right

15:35

next to the eBay booth. And if

15:35

you are slightly not right next

15:38

to the eBay booth, I can no

15:38

longer find you

15:40

and see I'm not like that.

15:40

I'm pretty good with landmarks.

15:44

Yeah. Which this will

15:44

come in to effect. We'll talk

15:49

about this more in the next

15:49

section that we're going to

15:51

talk about. Yeah, we will.

15:51

And we'll also talk more about

15:55

working with the vendors in a

15:55

later section.

15:58

But there were

15:58

definitely too many booths to

16:00

look at. I talked to somebody

16:00

while I was there who said that

16:05

their First Gen Con literally

16:05

all he did for four days was

16:08

just come into the exhibition

16:08

hall and walk up and down the

16:12

aisles to see everything. And

16:12

that's how he spent four days.

16:15

That's a legit way to spend the

16:15

time. If that's how you want to

16:17

do it. There's enough to see.

16:17

Absolutely, then if like if you

16:22

sit down, because a lot of them,

16:22

it's not like, it's not

16:26

necessarily like it's just, hey,

16:26

this is a store where you can

16:29

buy things like you can actually

16:29

sit down and learn how to play a

16:32

lot of these games and get

16:32

demos, and really kind of get an

16:37

idea for what the game is. So

16:37

you know what you're getting

16:41

Yeah, there was a booth

16:41

for a new upcoming dim sum game

16:41

yourself into. called steam up that I sat down

16:48

and played that game for a

16:52

little bit. It was so cool. It

16:52

was so cute. I loved it. Because

16:56

one I love dim sum. And I love

16:56

food.

16:59

Yeah, so that game has

16:59

been on my radar for a while,

17:02

I've been kind of keeping an eye

17:02

on it, hoping that it would come

17:06

out. It's been in production for

17:06

quite a while.

17:08

Well, it was there. And they said that they would be coming out soon. I would say

17:10

probably a good third of the

17:14

booths, if not more. When you go

17:14

there have a game for you to

17:19

demo. Yeah, so it's not just

17:19

hey, you know, I'm gonna look at

17:23

this store for five seconds. Oh,

17:23

it's full of dice. Okay, that's

17:27

fine. Yeah, some of them were

17:27

that way. But others were unique

17:31

things like this odd fish that

17:31

had the unique smelling tins.

17:36

Some of them were just strictly

17:36

board game companies like what I

17:40

was at. As Rachel said earlier,

17:40

I was just steeped games. And

17:44

some of them were kind of a mix

17:44

and match of things.

17:47

Yeah, so that's the

17:47

other thing I was gonna say is

17:49

that I feel like there was a

17:49

really good selection of booths

17:53

so that there was a good mixture

17:53

of like, just straight up board

17:57

game companies, artists,

17:57

authors, other people selling

18:01

like Hobby related things like

18:01

dice. There was a several booths

18:07

that had like just cosplay armor

18:07

and weapons. That was pretty

18:10

cool. Some that had like these

18:10

really neat, like bags that are

18:15

for cosplay. Some that are just

18:15

selling literal bags to help you

18:19

carry your board games, right.

18:19

There was a Goosebumps booth.

18:22

What? I didn't wait, what? No, no, that's the one you pointed out

18:22

to me. I thought it was a Goosebumps booth is like way

18:24

over there in the corner where I

18:31

got where you got your your

18:31

favorite pin.

18:34

Oh, no, that's so that is

18:34

actually a board game company.

18:38

Is it? I literally

18:38

thought it was just a

18:41

Goosebumps. Yeah, but they had

18:41

just lost I didn't see them

18:45

selling any board games. Like

18:45

they had a lot of pins. Her like

18:49

kind of creepy occult kind of

18:49

pins. And I actually I got my

18:54

sister this really neat purse

18:54

that looks like it's a like a

18:58

spell book. It says like book of

18:58

spells on it. And it kind of

19:02

hangs from your shoulder. I

19:02

thought that was super cool. So

19:05

I got that for her. The

19:07

name of that company was

19:07

trick or treat games. They had,

19:10

I think three or four different

19:10

board games that they were

19:13

selling there. I didn't even see

19:13

them. The one that I saw go out

19:18

most was a game called nightmare

19:18

productions. It's actually

19:21

number 864 on the Board Game

19:21

Geek list. Hmm. Okay. So yeah,

19:27

no, not a Goosebumps. So when

19:27

you said goosebump was like

19:30

what? Okay, I thought that's

19:30

what it was. So that leads me

19:35

into what you kind of were

19:35

saying like, there's all sorts

19:37

of like clothing as well, and

19:37

artists and authors that lead me

19:42

into something that I wanted to

19:42

mention, there was one thing

19:44

that I was looking for that I

19:44

saw a lot of people have at the

19:47

convention that I was not able

19:47

to find at the convention. That

19:52

would be a kilt. Okay, I was, I

19:52

would have spent good money on a

20:00

kilt.

20:01

Did you actually look at

20:01

the clothing booths? Did they

20:03

not have any good? Yeah, no

20:03

kilts. You should have come with

20:07

your own kilt.

20:08

I'm gonna have the next

20:08

time. You would have fit right

20:11

in. I love wearing a kilt. It's

20:11

comfy. It's breezy. Yeah.

20:16

So is that it for the

20:16

exhibition hall? Do you have

20:18

anything else to say?

20:19

It was a little

20:19

overwhelming at times, I did

20:23

have to take a Xanax one time in

20:23

the exhibition hall, because it

20:27

was just insane. Other than

20:27

that, it was pretty

20:30

good. The difference in

20:30

like how busy the hall was from

20:35

Thursday to Saturday, the

20:35

difference in those days was

20:39

quite significant. Like

20:39

Thursday, it was pretty

20:42

comfortable. I feel I was like,

20:42

Oh, this isn't so bad. I thought

20:46

that there was going to be like

20:46

5 million people here. And then

20:49

Saturday. It's like, oh, there's

20:49

5 million people here.

20:53

There are 5 million people here.

20:58

Okay, so let's move on

20:58

to talk about the gaming. So I

21:03

got a couple bones to pick about

21:03

this. There was a lot, a lot of

21:08

gaming in the hall for gaming

21:08

was just as big as the

21:14

exhibition hall. Yeah, it was,

21:14

it was difficult to find the

21:20

proper gaming tables. So the way

21:20

that this worked was, I don't

21:23

know, a month or two ago, they

21:23

opened up like the gaming

21:27

schedule online. And you could

21:27

go and get your tickets for the

21:32

various games that you want to

21:32

play. And some of them cost

21:35

money. Some of them were free.

21:35

Honestly, all of them were

21:39

reasonably priced. I don't know

21:39

if I spent more than like $5 on

21:42

any single game. So I was

21:42

actually really pleasantly

21:46

surprised by that. But the hall

21:46

that this was in was kind of it

21:51

was logically divided into

21:51

multiple halls going ABCD. But I

21:57

say logically, because there's

21:57

no physical divide, like you

22:00

just kind of keep walking in it,

22:00

all of a sudden, you're in

22:03

section B, all of a sudden

22:03

you're in Section C. And so the

22:07

only division of that is by

22:07

these banners that are hanging

22:11

from the ceiling. And then

22:11

sometimes on the wall, it will

22:14

say like you're in section B. So

22:14

imagine this just giant, long,

22:19

long, long, long, long hall. And

22:19

all these tables that are just

22:23

set up basically, all right next

22:23

to each other all on top of each

22:27

other with a couple of pads

22:27

carved out for people to walk.

22:30

And you have to go in there and

22:30

you have to find the table where

22:32

you're playing. I feel like the

22:32

GenCon designers had an idea for

22:38

how to help people locate their

22:38

tables. There were like

22:41

different colored. I don't want

22:41

to call it a tablecloth, but

22:45

like paper that covered the

22:45

whole table. Like a plastic

22:49

tablecloth. Yeah, It wasn't

22:49

plastic, those paper. But so

22:53

like different colored paper

22:53

that kind of lined the table. I

22:57

think there was supposed to be

22:57

numbers on all of the tables,

23:01

some of the tables had numbers.

23:01

And so I think the idea was

23:05

okay, your game is in Hall be on

23:05

purple table 15. And that worked

23:14

once that was used to help us

23:14

find our game, once I signed up

23:20

for multiple games over the

23:20

course of the weekend. And most

23:25

of them, they described their

23:25

location in terms of the company

23:30

that is running the game or the

23:30

is producing the game. And so

23:35

instead of using these colors

23:35

and these numbers, you're really

23:39

just looking for some kind of

23:39

banner that stands for that

23:44

particular company, or maybe

23:44

even a banner that just says

23:48

that particular game.

23:49

And some companies did a

23:49

better job than others showing

23:53

where they were at.

23:54

Yes. So like, Renegade,

23:54

they had a big thing hanging

23:59

from the ceiling. That said,

23:59

this is where Renegade is. So

24:02

some of them had just almost

24:02

like little booths set up or

24:07

like little tables with kind of

24:07

a banner. That was an okay way

24:12

of kind of landmarking yourself.

24:12

But a lot of them honestly, it

24:16

was literally just this kind of

24:16

flag that was sitting on the end

24:20

of your table. And the problem

24:20

with that is that people had

24:24

multiple flags that they were

24:24

switching in and out depending

24:27

on what games were currently

24:27

being played. And so if you go

24:31

and look for your table at the

24:31

wrong time, your flag might not

24:35

be there, and you might not be

24:35

able to find your table. I had

24:39

at least two games that I was

24:39

like actively walking around the

24:43

hall and really looking for the

24:43

gaming table and I just simply

24:47

could not find it. The landmarks

24:47

that were described in the

24:52

directions, just I couldn't find

24:52

them. And so I missed these two

24:56

games, because I just I could

24:56

Find it.

25:01

Yeah, I totally agree the

25:01

hall was so large, and some

25:05

people did a really good job of

25:05

showing where they were at.

25:09

Unfortunately, most people did

25:09

not. And that really is a

25:14

detriment to the whole gaming

25:14

experience at a game convention.

25:21

Right? Yeah. So on our flight

25:21

over, we were sitting next to a

25:26

guy who was specifically working

25:26

at a booth, so he could get in

25:29

free, and then was running

25:29

games, during all the time that

25:33

he wasn't at that booth. And

25:33

that's all he was doing is

25:37

running games. He wasn't even

25:37

playing other people's games, he

25:39

was running a table top or RPG

25:39

game. And that's what he did.

25:44

And for somebody to sign up for

25:44

his game, and then not be able

25:47

to find it. That's a real shame.

25:49

Yeah. And so for all the

25:49

games that I was able to find,

25:52

there was always no shows there

25:52

was always people who just

25:56

didn't make it, you know,

25:56

whether or not that's that they

26:00

couldn't find it, or they

26:00

forgot, or whatever

26:02

that is true about the

26:02

gaming Hall. However, some

26:07

companies had rooms that they

26:07

had reserved outside of the

26:10

gaming Hall between the gaming

26:10

Hall and the exhibition hall,

26:14

one of them being Pandasaurus .

26:14

That's true. We showed up for

26:17

our panda Source game. And we

26:17

were only able to get one ticket

26:20

for this game, because it was a

26:20

brand new game that had just

26:24

been announced. It was created

26:24

by the creator of one of our

26:27

favorite games wingspan,

26:27

Elizabeth Hargreaves, it is

26:31

called the fox experiment. I'm

26:31

very excited to get this game.

26:35

It is based on a real Russian

26:35

experiment, to breed foxes to

26:40

basically be cute and domestic.

26:40

It didn't work. But it's cool

26:45

idea. And the game was really

26:45

fun. Like they did such a good

26:48

job with it. I digress. What I

26:48

meant to say is, those games

26:52

were much easier to find because

26:52

you knew exactly what room it

26:56

was in. Not only that, but they

26:56

had staff to direct you. Hey,

26:59

you're at that table right there.

27:01

Yes. So totally agree,

27:01

much easier to find. And like so

27:07

it's like this hallway that's

27:07

got these separate, I don't

27:09

know, like they're supposed to

27:09

be conference rooms or something

27:12

right, that are set up for

27:12

individual companies. So like,

27:16

for example, the panda Soros

27:16

one, it has like a big banner on

27:20

the outside of the door telling

27:20

you this is where panda Soros

27:24

is. And then you go inside, and

27:24

there's like eight tables that

27:29

are set up each with like a

27:29

different game, and a specific

27:34

person that is designated at

27:34

each table to teach the people

27:37

for this game. And so that was a

27:37

much better experience going

27:42

through, you know, that kind of

27:42

gaming setup. Only the fox

27:47

experiment. Out of all the games

27:47

that we played on that I played,

27:50

only the fox experiment was in

27:50

one of those separate rooms.

27:54

Yes. Okay, so I played a game

27:54

called four humors. This is by

28:00

Adam's apple gaming. Super cute.

28:00

I really like the concept. So

28:05

this is based off of the, like

28:05

medieval theory of basically,

28:11

you know, what makes up our

28:11

personalities. And the idea was

28:16

the person that you are, is made

28:16

up of a combination of was it

28:21

black bile, yellow bile, red

28:21

blood, and white phlegm? Yeah,

28:29

it's this medieval theory, you

28:29

know, of how, like

28:32

pharmaceuticals and stuff were

28:32

prescribed based on these things

28:36

that made up your personality.

28:38

And we're using that word

28:38

pharmaceuticals very loosely for

28:41

that time period. Yeah,

28:43

yes.

28:44

It's more like, oh,

28:44

Doctor, I'm sick. It's probably

28:47

demons, you should do cocaine

28:47

about it.

28:49

Yeah, it's like that. So

28:49

the game, the way it plays is

28:56

that you have these different

28:56

tiles that make up kind of the

29:00

map of a city. And then you've

29:00

got these other tiles that are

29:05

kind of zoomed into a specific

29:05

location on that map. And so

29:09

you've got like, I don't know,

29:09

four or five of those out at

29:12

once. They're zoomed into these

29:12

different locations. And you can

29:14

see the people that are in those

29:14

locations. So like, you zoom

29:19

into the dungeon, you see a

29:19

couple of guards in there, and

29:21

then a bunch of people being

29:21

tortured, and the people that

29:24

are in there, you can see what

29:24

their humors are, they always

29:29

have to and so the idea is that

29:29

you have these different

29:34

potions, these different drugs,

29:34

but you are prescribing to these

29:38

people based on the humors that

29:38

they have. And it has kind of a

29:43

hierarchy in terms of what

29:43

precedes what and you know, what

29:48

kind of overtakes what, and so

29:48

everybody is putting down these

29:53

potions facedown. It's kind of a

29:53

bluffing game and you're trying

29:57

to figure out what you know is

29:57

the best situation, what are

30:00

other people trying to do so

30:00

that I can fall somewhere in

30:03

this hierarchy where I actually,

30:03

you know, get points and get to

30:07

take control of this location.

30:07

It was a really cool game, I'm

30:12

not normally into like social

30:12

deception or like bluffing

30:16

games, but it felt it didn't

30:16

feel too significant in that

30:20

area. For me. Honestly, I felt

30:20

like it was even a little bit

30:24

more deductive, just like oh,

30:24

based on all the people that we

30:28

have here, and based on what I

30:28

see you doing, I'm predicting

30:31

that you're using these humors

30:31

instead of those ones. And I can

30:35

kind of make a decision to beat

30:35

you based on that information

30:40

that I've deduced. So that's

30:40

kind of my little shout out for

30:44

a game that I played.

30:46

So the game that I played

30:46

that Rachel kind of watched a

30:50

little bit of mine wasn't really

30:50

social deception, it was more of

30:53

a social deduction game, it was

30:53

called mask of the Red Death.

30:58

It's kind of an interesting

30:58

concept, because it's based on

31:01

the Edgar Allan Poe poem mask of

31:01

the Red Death, you're playing a

31:06

noble at a party from six until

31:06

midnight, each round takes an

31:11

hour quote, unquote, of time

31:11

away. So for the first round,

31:14

it's from the six o'clock hour

31:14

to seven, second round is from

31:17

seven o'clock to 8/3, Round

31:17

Eight o'clock tonight. During

31:21

those first few rounds until

31:21

midnight, you're trying to

31:25

figure out where the Red Death

31:25

will be in the 12 o'clock hour.

31:30

So from 12, to 1210 1210, to

31:30

1220 1220, to 1230, and so on,

31:37

until one o'clock in the

31:37

morning. At the end of the

31:40

deduction phase, once the Red

31:40

Death starts moving around, you

31:44

want to avoid the room he's in,

31:44

if you're in the room using you

31:48

die. So the first half of the

31:48

game first two thirds of the

31:52

game is really kind of deducing

31:52

where he's going to be by

31:55

getting different clues from a

31:55

clue deck, and then taking them

31:59

from other nobles gaining favor,

31:59

which is kind of like victory

32:03

points in the fact that it only

32:03

matters if there are multiple

32:07

survivors at the end. And I was

32:07

so close. So I had decided in

32:13

the last round, you have to

32:13

decide what turns you're going

32:17

to take as far as moving room to

32:17

room. And you can only move one

32:21

room clockwise or run one room

32:21

counterclockwise in each 10

32:25

minute segment. And if I had

32:25

just not moved on the last one,

32:29

because I moved into where he

32:29

was not knowing that he would be

32:33

there. Because at the end of the

32:33

game, the Red Death in each of

32:38

those time slots is in two rooms

32:38

at a time. So you have to avoid

32:43

two rooms. And there are seven

32:43

rooms total. So it's kind of

32:49

this back and forth of dancing

32:49

between where he is now and

32:54

where he is going to be in

32:54

avoiding all of that. Long story

32:59

short, if I had just done

32:59

nothing, I would have won. But

33:04

it was it was a cool experience.

33:04

It was a very interesting games.

33:06

I've not played anything really

33:06

like it before.

33:09

I wasn't really paying

33:09

attention to that too much. I

33:12

was bored. So I went and I

33:12

walked around the exhibition

33:14

hall while you were doing that.

33:15

I know. The game we played

33:15

together really was a social

33:19

deception game. The stuff of

33:19

legend, which I I'm very

33:25

interested in getting it, but it

33:25

is very expensive. For what

33:29

you're getting. It is pretty

33:29

expensive. Yeah, it was so fun,

33:33

though. You play as toys.

33:33

There's a teddy bear. There is a

33:39

Jack in the Box or the jester, I

33:39

guess is what he's really

33:42

called. There is a hippo I think

33:42

a stuffed hippo.

33:47

Me who I was. Yeah. No,

33:47

I think he's a piggy bank.

33:52

Oh, yeah, he is a piggy

33:52

bank. You're right. And then

33:54

there's like a toy top. And then

33:54

there are a couple other toys

34:00

anyways, you are these toys that

34:00

belong to the boy. That's all

34:05

he's called. And the boy gets

34:05

kidnapped by the boogey man and

34:12

you have to go and find him.

34:12

However, there are loyalties in

34:16

the game. Some of you are loyal

34:16

to the boy for certain in the

34:20

beginning. And then there's a

34:20

possibility that there is a

34:24

traitor in the game that is

34:24

loyal to the boogey man.

34:29

Well, at the number of

34:29

players that we had, there was

34:32

definitely at least one traitor

34:32

and then the possibility of a

34:34

second Yes,

34:36

but the game is cool

34:36

because it allows you to

34:38

Actually Trade loyalties with

34:38

people throughout the game.

34:45

Which is kind of an interesting

34:45

aspect to a hidden traitor. A

34:48

game that I've not really seen a

34:48

lot is really cool. We don't

34:51

have a whole lot of time to talk

34:51

any more in depth about it other

34:54

than it was really fun. And this

34:54

is coming from somebody who

34:58

doesn't like social deception

34:58

games.

35:01

I feel like you say

35:01

that, but I don't know. So Jake

35:05

was the traitor in this game,

35:05

and I knew it. I knew it. I knew

35:11

it's

35:11

you didn't know, because I

35:11

got you to start agreeing with

35:15

me. You were like, No, I can

35:15

kind of see what you're saying.

35:18

Jake was arguing this

35:18

whole weird strategy like, Hey,

35:23

there's this thing that we need

35:23

to do right here. But instead of

35:26

doing this one that's right

35:26

here, let's go all the way over

35:29

to the other side of the map and

35:29

do that one. So that if we have

35:33

to come back, and then we don't

35:33

have to go back again, or I

35:36

don't even know, I can't keep up

35:36

with what you're trying to

35:39

argue. It didn't make any sense.

35:42

My argument was basically

35:42

limit the amount of backtracking

35:45

that you have to do.

35:46

That's what you're

35:46

saying the argument is, but it

35:49

doesn't actually make sense.

35:51

I was arguing that that

35:51

was what I was saying. But it

35:54

wasn't actually what I was

35:54

saying. I was actually saying

35:58

no, let's take the long way around.

36:00

Yeah. So I'm like, I'm

36:00

so freaking confused about what

36:04

you're saying. And I'm like, I

36:04

don't know. I don't know what's

36:06

going on. I can't trust you.

36:09

But yeah, Rachel was

36:09

actually the only person that

36:12

well, there were two in the

36:12

beginning that we knew we could

36:14

trust. And then one of them got

36:14

their loyalty switched with

36:18

something one of the facedown

36:18

loyalty, so we don't know if we

36:22

can trust her anymore. So Rachel

36:22

was the only one that we knew

36:26

for certain we can trust you. So

36:26

you need to go check things.

36:31

Out. It was a really cool game.

36:31

If you're interested in that

36:34

kind of game. Go check it out.

36:34

It's on Kickstarter right now.

36:38

Yeah, I think actually,

36:38

by the time this episode

36:41

releases, the late backer will

36:41

have just closed but I'm sure

36:46

it'll be selling in retail.

36:48

I specifically asked them

36:48

about that. Yeah.

36:51

Okay. So the next

36:51

section that I want to talk

36:54

about is the community. I love.

36:54

Like geek culture, I love nerd

37:01

culture. Everybody at the

37:01

convention is super polite,

37:05

super accepting, like I was

37:05

standing in line to get a t

37:09

shirt. And they only had like

37:09

the very beginning of the line

37:13

and actually like roped off, and

37:13

then after that they had like

37:17

tape on the floor, just

37:17

indicating that this is where

37:19

you need to stand and go. And

37:19

someone else was saying, you

37:24

know, only at like a gaming

37:24

convention, would you find

37:27

people like actually staying

37:27

within these lines and following

37:31

the tape, you know, anywhere

37:31

else, you could have it roped

37:34

off and people would still be

37:34

crawling under trying to get

37:36

ahead. I feel like that's kind

37:36

of true. Like, geek culture.

37:40

nerd culture is like, Yeah,

37:40

we're gonna follow the rules.

37:44

And we're good. And we're like,

37:44

just respectful people. And I

37:49

love it.

37:50

Yeah, I kind of agree with

37:50

that. I didn't have any problem

37:54

with anybody. And also, I

37:54

thought that the community was

37:58

really, really accepting and I

37:58

mean, just nice in general. And

38:04

okay, this is gonna sound mean

38:04

of me. Okay. There was not

38:10

nearly as smelly as I thought it

38:10

would be. Oh, my gosh, to be

38:15

fair, 50,000 people and single

38:15

hall like that's, that's a lot

38:19

of bodies to pack in there. So

38:19

it was not nearly as smelly as I

38:23

anticipated. But it was really,

38:23

really good. Everybody was nice.

38:27

I don't think I heard anybody

38:27

say or do anything mean at all?

38:33

Yeah. And one of the

38:33

things that I thought was super

38:35

cool was on your way, like down

38:35

to the convention, there was

38:38

just this little table set up

38:38

that had a bunch of badge

38:42

ribbons, just things that you

38:42

can like tape onto your badge.

38:45

And those included pronoun

38:45

ribbons. So you could do he him,

38:50

she her they them. And almost

38:50

everybody at the convention was

38:55

wearing one of those. It was

38:55

really cool. Like just a really

39:00

cool way to like make that

39:00

normal.

39:03

One of my favorite badge

39:03

ribbons I saw and that I

39:06

actually picked up and put on

39:06

was it it was a bright pink one

39:09

with white lettering that said

39:09

it's okay to say gay in the

39:13

right way.

39:14

Yeah, I was wearing that

39:14

one too. I thought that was

39:17

really cool. So like I said,

39:17

just very accepting community.

39:21

Also, speaking of the community,

39:21

I just want to kind of talk

39:24

about like, some of the

39:24

community kind of events or

39:27

things that they had going on,

39:27

not necessarily dedicated events

39:32

that were happening, but kind of

39:32

just things that were going on.

39:35

One of the first things is like

39:35

just this area of the floor

39:39

where people were kind of

39:39

building this card structure

39:45

thing. So like I took a picture

39:45

of it on the very first day when

39:48

I happened to be passing over it

39:48

like I was able to get a picture

39:51

from above. And it you know, it

39:51

started out just saying Gen Con

39:55

2022 And it had, you know, kind

39:55

of some ornate lettering and

40:01

just design around it. But as

40:01

the convention was going on, I

40:04

saw that there were people

40:04

actually just sitting there and

40:07

like constantly contributing to

40:07

it building towers, rivers

40:12

building, like anything, you can

40:12

think of just kind of adding to

40:15

it, because there was all these

40:15

cards just sitting there that

40:19

you could fold and bend and then

40:19

kind of stack up and do whatever

40:23

you want with to make these

40:23

different designs.

40:25

Yeah, it was really cool.

40:25

Actually. Also, that kind of

40:28

goes back to like the whole

40:28

people being nice. I really,

40:32

really, really wanted to go in

40:32

and destroy it, because I wanted

40:36

to be like Godzilla and, and

40:36

stomp on things. And I can't be

40:41

the only one like, I really

40:41

can't. But nobody did anything

40:45

like that.

40:46

So I have news for you.

40:46

Apparently, I didn't find this

40:50

out until Sunday night. But

40:50

apparently, on Saturday night,

40:54

you can go and throw coins at

40:54

it. And like that's when they

40:59

are getting ready to take it

40:59

down and pick it up. So you can

41:03

go and throw like coins and try

41:03

to knock the towers over and

41:07

things.

41:07

No, I wanted to be

41:07

Godzilla. So sorry.

41:11

But that was cool. Also

41:11

something else that was really

41:14

cool. On Thursday, all day, they

41:14

were kind of building this big

41:19

balloon dragon. I also have

41:19

pictures of that up on our

41:23

social media. So that was

41:23

completely built up by Friday.

41:27

And then on Sunday, they invited

41:27

like kids and younger gamers to

41:33

come and pop all the balloons.

41:33

So that gave them some kind of

41:36

pokey pointy tool

41:38

Lawn Darts.

41:40

It wasn't Lawn Darts. No, because people were doing it's like a sword or something.

41:41

But it's got a bunch of pricks

41:46

on it. So it pops a bunch of

41:46

balloons all at once. Like I

41:50

thought that was also just a

41:50

really cool like kind of thing.

41:53

Especially for like kids to go

41:53

in and just kind of like, Oh,

41:56

I'm slaying the dragon. You

41:56

know,

41:59

I'm disappointed that it

41:59

wasn't that they didn't use Lawn

42:02

Darts. But here we are.

42:04

And it would have taken

42:04

so long to pop all those

42:06

balloons.

42:07

Also, you know, Lawn Darts

42:07

can kill you. That's why they

42:10

stopped making them. Yeah,

42:12

I can see that. Okay, so

42:13

next we wanted to talk a

42:13

little bit about our experience

42:16

with working with vendors. I

42:16

was, as we said earlier with

42:20

steep games. They make Chai and

42:20

Chai Tea for Two. And they are

42:24

coming out with a couple of new

42:24

games next year that I'm very

42:26

excited for. They actually got

42:26

the rights to an old Reiner

42:30

Kneizia game. So they're going

42:30

to be re re releasing that with

42:34

some new expansions and then

42:34

some of their own original

42:37

games, which goes up through the

42:37

desert. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's

42:41

interesting. Yeah. So they're

42:41

going to be doing that next

42:46

year. And some other games, some

42:46

of them look really cool. One

42:51

looked a little more complicated

42:51

than the other one of them is

42:54

kind of like a splendor esque

42:54

game. And the other one is,

42:56

that's the simpler one. One of

42:56

them's a little more calm

42:59

anyways, overall, I had a great

42:59

experience working with Dan and

43:03

Brian, and jazz and everybody

43:03

else at the booth. They were all

43:08

super nice, even though I showed

43:08

up really, really late on my

43:11

first day, like halfway through

43:11

my shift. Because remember, I

43:16

did not get into the hotel room

43:16

until 530. On that day, that was

43:20

supposed to be at the booth at

43:20

10. That didn't happen. But

43:25

everybody was super nice. And I

43:25

know it got busy. And I'm

43:31

usually okay. As far as an

43:31

experience like this. To give a

43:36

little bit of background, my

43:36

first job my very, very first

43:39

job, I worked at a music store,

43:39

and the music store I worked in,

43:44

they specialize in actually

43:44

renting music, musical

43:47

instruments to kids for the

43:47

school year. So I got hired on

43:51

at 16 during the rental season,

43:51

to just be another body to take

43:56

rental forms and payment and

43:56

give an instrument to a kid. In

44:01

sales, I was used to having a

44:01

line of 60 people, 70 people 80

44:06

people waiting on us, and us

44:06

just going and going and going

44:10

and going and going and getting

44:10

this all through. So I wasn't

44:13

really overwhelmed by that. It

44:13

was very similar to that

44:17

experience at the convention. As

44:17

far as my previous, you know,

44:22

experience in sales. That really

44:22

helped me not feel overwhelmed.

44:28

But everybody was also super

44:28

nice. Everybody was interested

44:31

in hearing about the games that

44:31

we had out and that we were

44:34

demoing. I really liked it

44:34

actually it was kind of

44:37

refreshing change of pace from

44:37

my day to day job.

44:43

was supposed to do was

44:43

cover somebody's lunch and I was

44:48

gonna be there alone and it was

44:48

like Hey, nobody even showed me

44:57

how to like ring people up.

44:57

anything, it's like just go. So

45:02

I'm really glad I got there a

45:02

little bit early. So I could

45:05

kind of shadow just for a little

45:05

bit. I don't need like full on

45:08

training, but hey, show me the

45:08

application to be able to ring

45:11

people up and like, How do I

45:11

look up the prices for things,

45:14

stuff like that. So but what I

45:14

was doing was I was working in

45:18

the Pandasaurus event room. So

45:18

that's like the room where they

45:22

have the demos for like the fox

45:22

experiment and everything. And

45:26

about half the time I was behind

45:26

the counter or behind the table,

45:30

like helping actually, you know,

45:30

assist people with purchasing

45:33

things. And then about half the

45:33

time I was teaching the Dinosaur

45:37

Island Rawr and Write game, I

45:37

significantly enjoyed teaching

45:42

people the game more than

45:42

running the sails, which is

45:47

funny, because it's like the

45:47

exact opposite for Jake.

45:49

Yeah, it's true. I was not

45:49

a fan of teaching people the

45:53

game, because, like, I'd say the

45:53

same thing over and over and

45:57

over and over and over. And I

45:57

get tired of that,

46:00

I guess I kind of get that I didn't have the same exact experience, because I

46:02

wasn't in the exhibition hall.

46:05

Right. So the people that I was

46:05

teaching were legitimately like

46:08

sitting down and playing a full

46:08

game. And I was just there to

46:12

kind of explain it in the

46:12

beginning. And then I just kind

46:14

of watch them and assist them as

46:14

they play. So a little bit of a

46:18

different experience. But I had

46:18

way more fun with that, and just

46:22

kind of hanging out with people

46:22

and talking and seeing how

46:25

they're enjoying the convention.

46:25

And it was a really good

46:28

experience. So I don't know,

46:28

Pandasaurus is awesome. I, you

46:32

know, had a really awesome time.

46:32

Everybody was super friendly and

46:36

nice. And it felt like, like a

46:36

family kind of just everybody's

46:41

kind of banding together. And

46:41

you know, figuring out, oh,

46:45

somebody needs to teach game x.

46:45

And we need to move people

46:50

around so that we can figure out

46:50

okay, well, this person over

46:53

here who's supposed to teach

46:53

game y they know game x, so

46:56

let's move them and get someone

46:56

else to play or to teach game y.

47:00

So I got pulled over to teach

47:00

Brew, great game at one point,

47:05

because I know that game very

47:05

well. Yes. Awesome game. Also

47:09

reminder back to the giveaway

47:09

that we're doing brew is in one

47:14

of those bundles. But yeah, I

47:14

had a really awesome experience

47:18

working with them.

47:20

I'm glad because like, I

47:20

want to go to our next

47:25

convention as partners with

47:25

companies again, whether or not

47:28

Dan will have me back, that

47:28

would be awesome. I would love

47:31

to go and help them out again,

47:31

those guys were awesome. If not,

47:34

if they already have all the

47:34

help they need, I get that

47:37

that's fine. I'll reach out to

47:37

someone else, I think and see if

47:41

I can get in and help them out.

47:41

I'm looking at you Mythic.

47:46

So I was hoping to work

47:46

with Panda source again for PAXU

47:50

maybe. But it looks like they

47:50

already have their team

47:53

selected. And you know, I just

47:53

wasn't on that list. You know,

47:57

nothing? Nothing personal.

47:59

No, I think they're a

47:59

bigger company that just has a

48:02

lot of people available.

48:04

Yeah. And they probably

48:04

need a smaller team for PAXU

48:07

it's not nearly as big as Gen

48:07

Con. I'm reaching out currently

48:10

to some other designers and

48:10

producers to see if I can help

48:16

out at anything else. So that's

48:16

the plan.

48:20

Yeah, I definitely would

48:20

do it again.

48:23

I also kind of wanted to

48:23

just talk about how like this is

48:27

an abnormal, I guess experience.

48:27

Most people don't go and work

48:32

with vendors. But you as a

48:32

regular person may be qualified

48:39

if that's something that you're

48:39

willing to do. So they did pay

48:43

for our badges. There are some

48:43

vendors that will even pay for

48:48

your hotel stay or like with

48:48

Pandasaurus, you can build up

48:53

basically experience points, the

48:53

more you work with them, and

48:55

they give you more and more

48:55

stuff, eventually working your

48:58

way up to them covering your

48:58

hotel stay.

49:01

That's pretty cool. Yeah, you

49:01

know, you

49:03

have to you have to be willing

49:03

to actually, you know, show up

49:06

and do the work and help out

49:06

with that. But it's a legitimate

49:11

way to spend the convention, you

49:11

know, and the only thing that

49:14

they are really looking for is

49:14

people who are friendly who can

49:17

deal with sales and who can like

49:17

Teach games. So we both

49:23

qualified because we we

49:23

essentially teach games through

49:26

this podcast, but I think lots

49:26

of other people who don't have

49:30

that could argue that they're

49:30

good at teaching games.

49:33

I'm not very friendly but

49:33

my sexy looks makeup for

49:40

you too sexy for this shirt.

49:42

It's true. I am actually

49:42

recording this shirtless because

49:45

it is so hot in here. We turn

49:45

off the air conditioning when we

49:49

record.

49:51

It's true. Well, that

49:51

was our last section to talk

49:55

about our experiences at Gen

49:55

Con.

49:58

So that means we need to

49:58

go back Come now we need to find

50:01

out. Rachel, would you rather go

50:01

to Gen Con over getting to the

50:06

airport two hours early for your

50:06

flight, then being told your

50:11

flight is delayed by an hour. So

50:11

you decide to explore the other

50:14

section of the airport to find

50:14

the best restaurant then being

50:17

told your flight is leaving

50:17

right now. While you're

50:21

literally as far away from your

50:21

game as you could possibly be,

50:25

that you rushed to pay for your

50:25

food, literally run across the

50:28

airport to get there and being

50:28

told your flight has been

50:31

delayed by another two hours.

50:34

So we kind of needed one

50:34

to get to the other. But if I

50:40

could go to Gen Con without

50:40

having that experience. Yes,

50:43

absolutely. 100% I would do that

50:45

I mean you could you just

50:45

have to move to Indianapolis.

50:48

I could or I could drive

50:48

or I could not fly southwest.

50:51

Oh. Oh, see. Southwest did

50:51

me dirty. They did me dirty this

50:58

time. Coming back with no

50:58

problem now. For either of us.

51:02

Maybe bad luck. Anyway,

51:02

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52:23

And real quick, I wanted

52:23

to give a shout out to Dan from

52:27

steep games. Thank you so much

52:27

for having me work at the booth.

52:31

Brian, thank you for having me

52:31

work at the booth. And a shout

52:34

out to Pandasaurus for having

52:34

Rachel at the booth as well. We

52:37

really appreciated the

52:37

opportunity and we would love to

52:40

do it again.

52:41

I'll give a shout out to

52:41

the Pandasaurus sales manager

52:44

Brian who just I don't know it

52:44

was like, I don't feel like

52:48

packing up all these games

52:48

people just take games. Take

52:51

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52:53

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53:23

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54:30

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54:38

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