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It's Wednesday. March Thirteenth, I'm free, I'm Garamendi
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and I'm on a to tolerate. This is
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what a day where last week's televised main
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event might have been the state of the
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Union but tonight Juanita and I are streaming
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at the Love is Blind Reunion one any
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of holes to actually prep and ask the
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right questions and to what was. That. Tic
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Toc video use that may play aka I'm
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still. Shaking. We're shirk. We're watching a cartoon
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in N Word, abandoning our responsibilities as the
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host of the show. So sorry if you
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don't get a podcast. Moral. On
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Today Show special. Counsel Robert Her got
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grilled by both parties where his report
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on Bidens handling of classified documents plus
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Air Bnb says no more security cameras
0:40
indoors. Like why were they inside in
0:42
the first place? Problematic Big Eggs. But
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first, the house is expected to vote
0:46
today on a bill that could force
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the Chinese owners of Tic Tac to
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sell the social media platform or rescue
0:53
banned from Us App stores. That's a
0:55
huge deal for all the doom scrollers
0:57
out there. But yesterday lawmakers took the
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issue very seriously. There was a house.
1:02
Intelligence Committee hearing on it. So breakdown
1:04
what happened for us. Yes, so the
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heads of the F B I, Cia
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and I say National Intelligence and Defense
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Intelligence were all their. The background here
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is that Tic Toc is owned by
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a private company called Bite Dance. Because
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it by Dances base in China, the
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government there is able to exert a
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certain amount of control over it. Several
1:23
reports over the years has said that
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take shock moderators censor sensitive topics in
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China as as Tianamen Square and Tibetan
1:29
Independence willing to some of those stories
1:31
in our show. Notes: But back to
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that meeting. F B I Director Christopher
1:35
Wray warned lawmakers yesterday that it's very
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possible that China via Tic Toc could
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censor or amplify certain topics in the
1:42
Us, making the app a potential security
1:44
threat both to individuals and their data
1:47
and the nation. Miracles: The The ask
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themselves whether they want to give the
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Chinese government the ability to control access
1:53
to the data, Whether they want to
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give the Chinese government the ability to
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control the information they get through the
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recommended. An algorithm and whether they want
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to give the Chinese government the ability
2:03
to leverage the data that the software
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on their devices which allows the Chinese
2:08
government to compromise enter devices if they
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so choose to exercise. Yeah. So
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I that messes gonna need to be amplified,
2:14
especially when you're competing with recent he says
2:16
fifty part love drama like itself. You gotta
2:19
get this message out there. More Yes, it
2:21
was important that we get some more details
2:23
of people can understand what is leading up
2:25
to date votes in the house on the
2:28
spell which has a lot of bipartisan support.
2:30
So earlier I was able to speak with
2:32
Louise Matsakis see is a freelance tech journalists
2:34
who writes a newsletter you may also like
2:37
all about tax, ecommerce and China. I started
2:39
by asking her about how lawmakers on both
2:41
sides. For able to get on at the
2:43
same page about this issue when they have
2:45
so much difficulty doing that about literally anything
2:48
else I think what you're seeing. Right now
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is the confluence of two things that are
2:52
may be the only things that Congress agrees
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on right now. So the first is being
2:56
tough on China, right? This is an app
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that has a Chinese parent. Company. And
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then the other thing is this
3:03
idea. That social media is harmful
3:05
to children. Harmful to teenagers. So we
3:07
seen a lot of interest among lawmakers
3:09
in the last like year to about
3:11
this idea about social media as poisoning
3:14
kids' brains. Cetera, Well, yesterday, Reuters
3:16
reported that F B I director Christopher
3:18
Wray warned of the house that China
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could use success of influence the coming
3:22
election earlier this week. As well the
3:24
Office of the Director of National Intelligence
3:26
issued their National Report on threat assessments
3:29
saying that the Chinese government has already
3:31
used Tic Tac to plus protein a
3:33
propaganda that have already tried to influence
3:35
it made me to midterm elections. So.
3:37
What is anything do we all know
3:40
about what that influences look like at
3:42
this point? What we know from that
3:44
report and from lots of other reporting
3:46
is that yes, The. Chinese government has
3:48
tried to use to talk to
3:50
influence the election to spread disinformation. However,
3:52
what we know is that they've
3:54
also used acts firmly notice Twitter they've
3:56
use facebook page views you to
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they've used planned. The of other platforms
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disrupt do the same thing and it
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should be noted that those efforts aren't
4:05
something that you needed like back and
4:07
access to Tick tock in order to
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do right Like this is just posting
4:12
stuff on the platforms in order to
4:14
train mislead people which is something that
4:16
we've seen your dozens of countries do
4:18
around the world on dozens of different
4:20
platforms. I think that's the really frustrating
4:23
thing about the tic. Tac to be.
4:25
Which is that? So. Little of the
4:27
information that lawmakers claimed to have see
4:29
and about the threat posed by Ted
4:31
Talks had been made public right now,
4:34
but we have is pretty hypothetical, right?
4:36
It's the idea that the Chinese government
4:38
could use Tic Tacs parent company to
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influence the Us, but we disarm now.
4:43
Right? And I mean Tic Tac and
4:45
By Dance were reportedly caught on us
4:47
off guard by how quickly this legislation
4:49
started moving through Congress. It even prompted
4:52
users last week on the app to
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call their lawmaker, tell them to vote.
4:56
No Annabel that seems to have. Backfired,
4:59
Firsthand, a lot makers even more eager to
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get this passed. How did Tix has become
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so blindsided by this? It seems like this
5:06
is that percolating a little while on our
5:08
side here at home. Yeah, I think there's
5:10
two things going on. The first one is
5:12
that I think it's fair to. Say that
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the Us government is kind of been the
5:17
boy who cried wolf when it comes to
5:19
banning tic toc. It's been almost four years
5:22
since this effort started. And the other
5:24
thing as yeah, that notification that they sent
5:26
to users encouraging people to call their lawmakers.
5:28
That's a strategy that lots of companies have used and
5:30
I think in the past have been. Really effective,
5:33
right? Like the idea of call your
5:35
representatives, tell them the things that you
5:37
care about, but in this case what
5:39
lawmakers said was see This shows how
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influential this app is and how the
5:43
Chinese government hides undue influence over American
5:45
voters. Interesting. Interesting answers saying. I mean
5:48
I also wanna talk about the potential
5:50
political risk here for lawmakers and in
5:52
especially democrats if they do end up
5:54
signing this bill into law. obviously a
5:56
massively popular and freshly with young people,
5:59
I don't know if one would consider
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me a young person. I didn't get
6:03
that notification. Anyway, it's cool the people
6:05
be blaming if Texaco the way and
6:07
using this could backfire for of be
6:10
politicians who feel like it's a good
6:12
idea right now. First your point. About
6:14
being you know, a young person, I think you
6:16
and I are probably actually like some of the
6:18
most active. Users. On Tic taught it gets
6:20
his reputation. As being a T and Ops
6:23
by data from the Pew Research Center recently
6:25
showed that actually Tic Tacs user base is
6:27
getting older quickly and so we're talking more
6:29
about like Millennials here, right? Like voters for
6:32
sure. And I think there could be this
6:34
bizarre situation almost were. Now you're seeing Trump
6:36
say that he doesn't support banning Tic Toc
6:39
right? So he's a want to start a
6:41
business at. If Biden ends up signing this
6:43
bill, I think you could get a situation
6:45
where millions of people who love Tic Toc
6:48
or hub businesses on Tic Toc who earn
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an income. From the platform could potentially be
6:52
saying hey, be no biden, cut off my income,
6:54
cut off my entertainment's maybe I'm gonna vote for
6:56
Trump right? Which would be super yes Sir Hans
6:59
And sort of ironic given that he was the
7:01
first one to bring up the idea of banning
7:03
map and the first place. Yeah, absolutely. Let's
7:05
talk about President Trump because he said
7:08
an interview with Cnbc this week that
7:10
he. Worried. Says ethically about
7:12
this backlash from young voters. They're. A. Lot
7:14
of young kids are checked out to. whom.
7:17
were go crazy without it there. A lot
7:19
of. Users.
7:22
Are this girl lot of good as is a
7:24
lot of bed with their guts. But
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the. Thing I don't like is that
7:28
without ticked off you can make Facebook
7:30
bigger and I consider facebook. To.
7:32
Be an enemy of the people? What? do? You. Make
7:34
of what he has said on this and you
7:36
know his his head is in the right place
7:39
with that idea of can be conscious of the
7:41
backlash. I think the reporting. With that he may
7:43
be talk to a big tic toc investor who
7:45
is also one of his stoners arms. I think
7:47
that Trump flip flopping on an issue like this
7:50
is nothing new. But it does
7:52
set up a situation where perhaps he
7:54
could use this. Eyes are you know
7:56
leverage against Biden if this does end up
7:58
being put into law. Ah, I just think
8:00
the question is whether he can convince his
8:02
base, who he you know riled up to
8:05
be so worried about tic toc and it
8:07
being controlled by the communist party. Can he
8:09
turn around and say like? But it's not
8:11
fair for the Democrats to banner this is
8:13
a free speech issue? I'm not really sure,
8:16
but if anyone could do it, it's definitely
8:18
a candidate like him. Totally. We. Saw with
8:20
a bipartisan immigration bell that Trump support
8:22
in general can make or break legislation.
8:24
Very, We think about his opposition. Now
8:26
What do we think? That means that
8:28
a feature at this build is that
8:31
will influence the Republican party and how
8:33
they will vote for republicans. Other they
8:35
were going. To move ahead and that
8:37
they weren't you know of worried about
8:39
Trump's comments and I think that they're
8:41
motivated by hearing from so many parents
8:43
who are really worried about the impact
8:45
of social media on their kids arms.
8:47
I think right now, for whatever reason,
8:49
that voice is louder for. A
8:51
lot of lawmakers but on. The other hand, you're their
8:53
phones are ringing off the hook because they're hearing
8:56
from Tic Toc users. I think the tension between
8:58
those two groups of constituents is gonna be something
9:00
to look out for. An hour before we
9:02
let you leave I have to ask about
9:04
the possibilities for had talks features here. You
9:07
know, do we see any potential buyers lining
9:09
up as By Stance is forced to sell
9:11
the platform? You know what? What do you
9:14
feel like may happen here? It's always so.
9:16
Hard sell. I feel like I don't
9:18
think that it will be easy to
9:20
sell the platform and the number one
9:22
reason for that is that Beijing basically
9:24
made it impossible without permission to sell
9:27
weed and certain types of technologies. Including
9:29
the algorithm. Answered the
9:31
ai that powers tic toc and I
9:34
don't think thoughts see jumping is going
9:36
to allow the sale to go through
9:38
either. So what I see happening potentially
9:40
as a stalemate were Beijing says you
9:43
can't sell, Biden says you have to
9:45
sell. I man for six months or
9:47
hundred and eighty days, it's a sort
9:49
of languishes and then maybe there is
9:52
perhaps an actual ban. The. Jokes
9:54
Merman it is my entertainment then.
9:57
We'll. Is not that this. Thank you so
9:59
much for. Here, we really appreciate your time.
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was my conversation with Lose Matsakis See is
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a freelance texture analysts who writes the newsletter
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wrap up with some headlines. Head a-loud. Special
14:04
counsel Robert Herr was a political
14:06
punching bag yesterday as he testified
14:08
before the GOP-led House Judiciary Committee.
14:11
Last month, Herr issued a report
14:13
into President Biden's handling of classified
14:15
documents and described Biden as a,
14:17
quote, well-meaning elderly man with a
14:19
poor memory. His testimony, along
14:21
with his report, showcased that Herr was
14:23
unable to justify his commentary about Biden's
14:25
memory. Democratic members of the
14:27
House noted that and were upset. Here's
14:30
Representative Adam Schiff of California grilling
14:32
Herr. I could have written your report with
14:35
comments about his specific recollection as to
14:37
documents or a set of documents, but
14:40
you chose a general pejorative reference
14:42
to the president. You understood when you
14:44
made that decision, didn't you, Mr. Herr,
14:46
that you would ignite a political firestorm
14:49
with that language, didn't you? I
14:51
appreciate the question because, of course, he should
14:53
have. Didn't you? Right.
14:56
Republicans were mad that Herr didn't use
14:58
his investigation to recommend criminal charges against
15:00
Biden. Here's Representative Andy Biggs of Arizona
15:03
saying he didn't think Herr's report went
15:05
far enough. He had guilty
15:07
knowledge. He knew and
15:10
told the guy that he's going
15:12
to expose that classified material to.
15:15
Hey, be careful. Okay,
15:17
that's ridiculous. And there's no
15:19
comparison by the actions of Donald Trump
15:22
compared to President Biden, like at all.
15:24
Zero. The White
15:26
House itself declared on Tuesday that the
15:28
president was cleared in the investigation after
15:30
Herr insisted that he did not exonerate
15:33
Biden. It is striking that there is
15:35
a transcript in this entire package of
15:37
her interviewing President Biden, which he does
15:39
comment that Biden has a photographic memory
15:41
line. Pretty well to see, especially compared
15:44
to his commentary. Wild to turn around
15:46
and then say this. Yeah.
15:48
It's just so illustrative of the kind of
15:51
people we're dealing with. The
15:53
Labor Department Released its Consumer Price Index report
15:55
yesterday, and inflation is back up in the
15:57
U.S. The report found that prices increase. A
16:00
bit in February With the price index at
16:02
three point two percent, which is up
16:04
from three point one percent in January, this
16:07
wasn't even Inflation will keep going up. Economists
16:09
are still studying the impacts of the
16:11
Federal Reserve interest rate hikes on the economy
16:13
and generally expect inflation to go down
16:15
as the your continue. but it's definitely something
16:17
to watch as President Biden campaign for
16:19
reelection. given that we know that rising costs
16:22
are top of mind for so many voters
16:24
nationwide. The. By administration announced yesterday
16:26
that it's sending three hundred million dollars
16:29
have weapons to Ukraine. White House National
16:31
Security Advisor Jake Sullivan explained that the
16:33
a package was necessary because Ukrainian troops
16:36
have been forced to rush and ammunition
16:38
here. He is in a press. Briefing:
16:40
When Russian troops advance and
16:42
it's gunfire, Ukraine does not
16:44
have enough ammunition. Fire back.
16:46
That's costing to wayne. Is
16:49
costing lives and it's costing
16:51
us. The United States and
16:53
Nato Alliance strategically southern added.
16:55
That what's being sent over will only
16:57
help hold off the Russian army for
16:59
a few weeks. He says the aid
17:01
package was only possible by cobbling together
17:04
savings from other military contracts. A
17:06
more long term solution would be for
17:08
the House, the pop of billion dollar
17:10
aid package for Ukraine that already cases
17:12
Senate. Ensuring. The safety of Ukrainians is
17:14
not a priority for a publishing has
17:16
on. My Johnson has a feasible that up
17:18
for vote and according to one hundred com
17:21
Minister Viktor Orban of Donald Trump is reelected.
17:23
He will close massive a penny to you
17:25
claim either. Or Bond is a
17:27
staunch ally of Russian President Vladimir Putins and
17:30
he just does it. It's for the last
17:32
week he made the comments lol Recapping The
17:34
Truth Is A T V Sunday. Multiple outlets
17:36
including Nbc and the Bbc try to follow
17:38
it with Trump campaign about what Or Vaughn
17:40
said but the had not heard back. Yeah
17:42
just a preview of what Is To Com
17:45
as Donald Trump is Innocent. It's
17:47
either the while the Police department Daniel
17:49
Rodriguez announced his resignation on Tuesday that
17:51
has made a renewed backlash over how
17:54
his department responded to Twenty Twenty Two
17:56
Rob Elementary School shootings were nineteen children
17:58
and to teach. For killed. We
18:01
told you last week that you've all
18:03
the city official commissioned a reports to
18:05
investigate the absence of state and local
18:07
law enforcement officials who waited over an
18:09
hour to confront the shooter. You will
18:11
remember that the families of the victims
18:14
were furious with the reports so called
18:16
findings because the author said the police
18:18
showed foot a strains and level headed
18:20
thinking despite the fact that by all
18:22
other accounts they fail to follow protocol
18:24
at nearly every single levels right or
18:26
three. Just admitted his resignation letter hours
18:29
before the City council. Was set to
18:31
meet for the first time on Tuesday since
18:33
the controversial report was released and well as
18:35
we get. Didn't ruff as to shooting or
18:37
the report. In his letter to the department
18:39
he will quote i take pride in a
18:41
positive impact we'd made during my tenure as
18:43
as a nice and deceptive people said. It's.
18:46
Another bad day for Boeing, and there's
18:48
put a terrible development for the company
18:50
to tell you about. First, a Federal
18:52
Aviation Administration report found Boeing fell thirty
18:54
three out of eighty nine addis in
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the production process for the troubled seven.
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Thirty Seven Max. A Lot. Yes, too
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many. And as if we need to
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the one where a piece of the
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in January. The New York Times said
19:10
yesterday that he got a hold of
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the F A presentation and report as
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Control at the Company. The report
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woods felt customers on a regular customer
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as I don't know about the on
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a they might be clear on the
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bus rides. Like
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know, why am I? And it's okay to catch
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a break. A
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couple of weeks ago, the F A
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said Boeing has until the end of
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May to come up with an axe
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implants addresses quality control issue. Meanwhile, down
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under dozens were injured on a Boeing
19:56
Seven Eighty Seven operated by Lot and
19:58
Airlines on Monday. Mine was flying
20:01
between Australia and New Zealand when it's
20:03
a sudden mid air die excuse any,
20:05
it is under investigation. Terrifying. I don't
20:07
wanna take a dive in an airplane.
20:10
I don't want their server. Finally, Boeings
20:12
problem will start showing up in your
20:14
flight certs as soon as well. Both
20:16
Southwest and Alaska Airlines announced yesterday that
20:19
the clinic that capacity for the rest
20:21
of Swanee Twenty four. we haven't even
20:23
finished to one people. There are plenty
20:25
to put capacity, but as Boeing has
20:28
been able to deliver on their. Orders
20:30
of new planes on time. This is not
20:32
a good good sex and for the rest
20:34
of the year especially for people who are
20:37
flying last or on either of these airlines
20:39
No not way. but I also I'm legs
20:41
do I want the new Boeing plants I'm
20:43
not sure I'm not sure rate at this
20:45
point I don't feel good as I would
20:48
never nervous flier but I am I mean
20:50
and of Sicily. And finally good news for
20:52
people who go on vacation in my to
20:54
walk around naked after taking a shower. Air
20:57
Bnb announced on Monday that it is banning
20:59
home from using indoor security cameras starting April
21:01
thirtieth. The company used to be okay with
21:03
indoor cameras as long as they were in
21:06
common. Area is mentioned in the listening and
21:08
clearly visible as a why it is changing
21:10
the policy now. Air Bnb simply said in
21:12
a statement that it was due to quote
21:15
extensive consultation with guest post privacy experts and
21:17
advocacy group at the like that is code
21:19
for Rob. They are liable in some way
21:21
they didn't want to be anymore. I had
21:23
somebody got caught doing something they shouldn't have
21:26
been right? Yeah, narrow like we want. No
21:28
part of this anymore. Find. Out through
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security cameras and noise monitors will still be
21:32
allows the hosted crackdown on on authorized gases
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path or parties suggests can take a sigh
21:37
of relief. You will no longer be was
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struggling to day care. It's it's it's it's
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a rated Ikea night that in seller of
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the next and Vanessa must say. Every
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single part outlier mother that serve as
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a flight. We are ready for the
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three union job he I started. Also
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this is why I've always been suspicious
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of Air Bnb. Never books in Air
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B and B will never cameras inside.
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you know I do love what our
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saw. A lot like Losses in Julia
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