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It's. Friday March Twenty ninth entre.

0:08

Though Anderson and I'm Abdulla I'll say it

0:10

in, this is what a date the pot

0:12

no one's really listen to this morning. Listen,

0:14

everybody listening to Be I'd say the latest

0:16

release, Cowboy Carter. So as far as I'm

0:19

concerned, all is right with the world. You

0:21

know, driven I'm listening to you. Just came

0:23

here because it's him. airport. On.

0:31

Today's. Show Trans Day of Visibility

0:33

is this Sunday and we will

0:35

hear why it's important that Trans

0:37

athletes are visible in sports. Plus

0:40

Seven Eleven tests are patients by

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announcing it's going to start. Selling

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the worst sounding flavor of

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sparkling water since pamplemousse mean

0:49

pimple most people bought first.

0:51

Who's ready for revisions to

0:53

Statistical policy? Directive Number Fifteen?

0:56

I. Sure am. Been. Waiting for my whole life.

0:58

In fact, You. Don't have to

1:00

explain to us why you been weigh in

1:03

on this of do our I Target Statistical

1:05

Policy Directive Number Fifteen is the one that

1:07

directs the Federal government's collection and presentation of

1:09

data about race and ethnicity. In. Layman's

1:11

terms were talking about how the census

1:13

collects it and there was a huge

1:16

announcement. Thursday. that's a game changer for

1:18

many communities of color. That's because for

1:20

as long as I can remember, yours

1:22

truly One Abdul Rahman Mohamed Siad, whose

1:24

parents were both born in Egypt and

1:26

who gets stopped at airports all the

1:28

time, has been considered by his government

1:30

as white. Which. You know I

1:32

always remind people Egypt. Is on the

1:34

continent of Africa. I've. Just say something's

1:36

not right there. Okay, we're holding it

1:38

down. Were holding down that northeast corner.

1:41

And. Yesterday. All. Of

1:43

this wrongdoing changed when the Federal

1:45

Office of Management and Budget finally

1:47

recommended some long awaited shifts. It

1:49

represents decades of organizing an effort,

1:51

so this affects the kind of

1:54

questions that we will see on

1:56

Federal census forms and surveys down

1:58

the line. Private Be. The Than

2:00

researchers might follow the government's seem

2:02

to so work or change here.

2:04

I thought everything first. Rather than

2:06

asking to separate questions about race

2:08

and ethnicity which is often confusing

2:10

folks, it unifies the questions into

2:12

one with recommendations to choose as

2:14

many answers as someone needs to

2:16

best describe how they identify. right?

2:19

Now cook ethnicity is the question on

2:21

those forms that asks if you're of

2:23

hispanic or Latino origin. Second, those

2:25

options will for the first time include

2:27

a Middle Eastern or North African or

2:29

Mina option. Who. Puts third, it requires

2:32

the census Bureau to collect additional detail,

2:34

helping us better understand things like bi

2:36

racial identity or country of origin. So

2:38

what does this mean for the kind

2:40

of data that the census can collect

2:42

Now, it should give us a much

2:44

richer picture of the true diversity of

2:46

our country. And it offers so many

2:48

of us who felt erased by the

2:50

census the opportunity to be seen and

2:52

understood in our full richness. Bar Government.

2:54

One. Year after the Twenty Twenty Us Census,

2:56

for example, the Urban Institute put out

2:58

a report that said that the census

3:00

probably undercounted some two point five million

3:02

people in various racial and ethnic groups.

3:05

But. He goes well beyond just being

3:07

seen and appreciated. Institutions like health system,

3:09

school districts and universities usually model

3:11

their race and ethnicity collection of the

3:14

Federal government. So this move by the

3:16

Federal government will have Suge cascading impact

3:18

downstream in institutions that shape American life.

3:21

To and as a healthcare expert and

3:23

Amina identifying person yourself, I imagine this

3:25

update means a lot to you as

3:28

well, right? Well. Traveled for the

3:30

first time. The government has a chance

3:32

that collecting accurate data given that there

3:34

was no mean a categories our community

3:36

was just erased. And. That had

3:38

serious implications. See, I'm an epidemiologist and

3:41

I started my career studying the risk

3:43

of premature birth and infant mortality among

3:45

marginalized communities. A. Lot of my focus

3:47

was on the Latino in Munich communities, but

3:49

without high quality formal data about the number

3:51

of mean identifying folks in a given community.

3:54

for example, it was almost impossible to calculate

3:56

the rate of In for mortality. Remember.

3:58

These numbers are calculated as. Number of

4:00

outcomes for ten or hundred thousand people.

4:03

But. If you don't know how many

4:05

people there are, well, you get the

4:07

picture right. So it's literally as deep

4:09

as saving babies. It absolutely is. Being.

4:12

Seen means being measured too. And being

4:14

measured means that researchers and public health

4:16

leaders like Meets can identify the inequities

4:18

that too often ship the health of

4:20

marginalized communities. And maybe with this data,

4:22

we can rebalance resources where they're needed

4:24

Most. As. The Hell Director for

4:26

the county with the largest mina and Latino

4:28

communities in my state, Michigan. I promise you

4:30

that that really matters. These. Changes announced

4:33

by the census won't be right away. Federal agencies

4:35

have about eighteen months to come up with a

4:37

plan in line with this new directive. But.

4:39

It's really exciting. So now you

4:41

know why I love Statistical Policy

4:43

Directive Number Fifteen. Thanks. So

4:45

much for that of duel from

4:47

a representation of visibility in the

4:50

way that our government is collecting

4:52

information about as to now international

4:54

transit or Day of Visibility which

4:56

is this weekend the same day

4:58

as Easter this year. we are,

5:00

after all divine beings. I'm gonna

5:03

zero in on Strands his ability

5:05

in sports because of a very

5:07

big lawsuit filed earlier this month

5:09

that targets trans athletes. Before you

5:11

go on cue, give us a

5:13

little background on friends. Day Visibility?

5:16

Absolutely So The day was created

5:18

by activists Rachel Crandall Crocker back

5:20

in Two Thousand Nine. The T

5:22

L the Are is that see

5:24

was frustrated that the only well

5:26

known as trans folk is day

5:28

at the time was Trans Day

5:30

of Remembrance which is one where

5:32

we honor lives lost in our

5:34

community due to violence to basically

5:36

felt like both the Lgbtq community

5:38

as well as streets. This fab

5:40

needed to put some respect on

5:42

the lives of trans folks and

5:44

are contributions. The Culture and Society

5:46

at large and so now across

5:48

the globe on March thirty first

5:50

Saturday, the day dedicated to do

5:52

just that. Even though Yasir be

5:55

doing it three hundred and Sixty

5:57

five, Day Three Sixty Six Ohm.

5:59

The media as well as we

6:01

all know this trans day of

6:03

visibility is happening amid a legislative,

6:05

political and socio cultural have fallen

6:07

on our lives as trans people

6:09

which just cannot be ignored or

6:12

denied. Can. You tell us how

6:14

bad it's become. Yeah, so we've covered

6:16

many of the anti trans happenings on

6:18

this so already. like for example, the

6:21

circumstances around the death of Next Benedict,

6:23

the non binary Oklahoma teen who took

6:25

their own life after not the case

6:27

and at school back in February or

6:30

the New York Times and how they

6:32

helped fuel right wing anti trans panic.

6:34

The media monitoring group Media Matters said

6:36

that back in Two thousand, Twenty Two

6:39

and these leagues they joined Glad in

6:41

releasing a follow up report. Revealing that

6:43

the suppose it paper of record

6:46

after being called out by trains

6:48

journalists and advocates last year is

6:50

still facilitating what amounts to anti

6:52

Trans misinformation. In that report, it

6:54

said that from February twenty twenty

6:56

Three to February twenty twenty four,

6:59

sixty one percent of their article

7:01

on anti Trans Bill D in

7:03

include a Trans voice and there

7:05

are five hundred and thirty three

7:07

of those discriminatory build in forty

7:09

one states right now. That's according

7:12

to the Trans. Legislation tracker all of

7:14

these bills, right? or about a few

7:16

different thing. They don't want us as

7:18

trans, adult, or used to have access

7:20

to the gender affirming in life saving

7:22

health care that some of us require.

7:24

They want to restrict where we can

7:26

use the bathroom. and maybe one of

7:28

the biggest areas of intense assault for

7:31

trans people is in sports. Can you

7:33

tell us more about that, right? So

7:35

just a couple weeks ago, a group

7:37

of sixteen at Transfer big student athletes

7:39

filed a class action lawsuit against the

7:41

Nc Double A and it's policies. That

7:43

allowed trans people to compete in

7:45

sports aligned with their identities. that

7:47

sued wants to ban all trans

7:50

women from all in see Double

7:52

A Sports and it's just one

7:54

part of Would journalist Amara Jones

7:56

called the Anti Trans hate machine.

7:59

All. Of this and so much more

8:01

has led to eighty five percent of

8:03

trans and adults saying that were facing

8:05

a national state of emergency. That's according

8:08

to a new poll by Data For

8:10

Progress Thought Door. I wanted to talk

8:12

about that lawsuit against the Nc Double

8:14

Eighth as well as what we're navigating

8:16

as a community on this coming day

8:19

of visibility. And so I called of

8:21

sports journalist and athlete. Carly Shot in

8:23

a Web is currently a contributor for

8:25

our Sports but previously road for E

8:28

S P N for over two decades.

8:30

She's also the former cohosts of

8:32

the Transporter Room podcast I so

8:34

highlighting trans athletes and I started

8:36

by asking her if there was

8:38

a special memory or moment in

8:40

her life that made her realize

8:42

how much see loved being an

8:44

athlete. Only give a little shout

8:46

out to the people that made

8:48

that moment possible. Mcgraw: The Reapers

8:50

Women's Football. The. Memory for

8:52

me. Was. Actually first game

8:55

playing for them last April. I

8:57

first met this team. They set up a

8:59

tent at a price. Their quarterback

9:01

currently you look like he can play a little

9:03

bit. You should come to our trial in August.

9:06

And. I asked applied. To you

9:08

know, or at least a trans women.

9:11

Do. Not see an eye to eye on this.

9:13

I am the team ministry cause we says we

9:15

are a women's football. Team for all women

9:17

are Wow! This group. Of.

9:20

Twenty one women on our team. At twenty

9:22

of them are says. And. They are

9:24

all except thing and loving. I

9:26

have twenty two sisters that that's

9:28

what it was like. Wow, I

9:30

love that. So let's jump into

9:33

this op ed that you wrote

9:35

about the Nc Double A lawsuit

9:37

shortly after dropped earlier this month.

9:39

We know that these this women

9:41

they don't want trans women to

9:44

compete because they think that their

9:46

inclusion right violates Title Nine or

9:48

whatever. But can you give us

9:50

some of the details about this

9:52

lawsuit on. You know, Whitmore be

9:55

plaintiffs want be and C double

9:57

A to actually do beyond just.

10:00

The Banning trans women from playing sports.

10:02

Where the start with let's talk about

10:04

Whoop! At this lawsuit Together it being

10:06

powered by a group who call themselves

10:08

The Independent Counsel For Women's Sports. Is

10:10

a group of people who call themselves

10:12

feminists but I com foments and the

10:15

may reside do that is look through

10:17

their work with and who they're getting

10:19

a logistical and financial support from groups

10:21

like the Independent Women's Forum. Who.

10:23

Calls himself a Christian conservative group

10:26

is another group conserve women for

10:28

America to the same type of

10:30

group and they in turn get

10:32

their bread from the Heritage Foundation.

10:34

Vr know the Heritage Foundation is

10:37

a we Do the right wing

10:39

think tank with the Southern Poverty

10:41

Law Center refers to as an

10:43

anti Lgbtq hate group. With.

10:45

Are asking the Nc Double A to do. Is

10:48

to in. Bill. Now eleven

10:50

year old transgender participation policy.

10:53

As a basic wanna say that trans

10:55

women are not. Women should not be

10:58

able to be in women's competition at

11:00

all. But. The second things

11:02

really petty and person. They

11:04

want the Nc Double A to go back to all

11:06

their records. They. Want them to

11:08

with act those records, They want

11:10

to change them and disqualify. And

11:13

take away anything. That a

11:15

transgender woman is done in collegiate sports.

11:18

So. For example, Cc Telfer, who

11:20

five years ago became the first.

11:22

Transgender. Student athlete to win an

11:24

individual Nc Double A championship. They will

11:27

take her to visit championship in the

11:29

board me to hurdles away. They want

11:31

to take Leah Thomas' swim championship the

11:33

she won two years ago. They want

11:35

to take that away as the personal

11:37

petty part of it off because really

11:39

sets Riley gains being Riley game. Let's.

11:42

Have a little bit more about

11:44

Riley Game. For the folks you

11:47

know who don't know who is

11:49

Riley game wise see a face

11:51

right of this anti trans women

11:54

in sports movement right now. Will.

11:56

Rally Dance is a former swimmer.

11:58

The Universe is. That the the

12:01

twelve time all american she's one

12:03

to Fcc championships division. One swimming

12:05

nationals and twenty twenty two she was

12:07

in. In a bit final where she

12:09

finished tied for fifth in the two

12:11

hundred yard. Freestyle. She ties with

12:14

leader Thomas. The. First, Riley said there

12:16

was a big deal. nothing against Leah with as

12:18

well, but the Nc Double A didn't give us

12:20

a heads up on this. When the fact is

12:22

this is a rule, what are they need to

12:24

give you a heads up for a couple weeks

12:27

afterwards? Gains. Did an interview

12:29

with Christina from Worse The Who is

12:31

a trans woman whose reporter. And

12:33

he basically told Pristina that know there was

12:35

no problem with Leah it was. Have. Issues with

12:37

the As He.live there is no problem.

12:40

Leah now lab. Between the interview in

12:42

April and her showing up at the

12:44

Icons Conference what I call transferable Palooza.

12:47

And start saying the the libelous

12:49

ugly things about Leah Thomas. Say

12:51

those the that. Such

12:54

horrid biological parent who

12:56

sought for a male

12:58

genitalia. She basically been

13:00

going around. And. Making

13:02

the rounds the college campuses. Israeli

13:04

Games Foundation now another right wing

13:07

think tank is backing her up

13:09

on that. so she's the head

13:12

of this was it for hurts

13:14

his personal but for the people

13:16

behind this it's very political. you

13:19

mentioned kind of the broader sports

13:21

landscape. we talked about collegiate. We're

13:23

seeing these bands even impacting the

13:26

babies in middle school right here

13:28

high school who really just want

13:31

to play. What would you say

13:33

is the impact. Right that all

13:35

of this has on Young trans

13:37

girls are trans kids you know

13:39

in general who are being forced

13:41

to sit on the sidelines while

13:43

everyone else you know the able

13:45

to participate as hurting kids. I

13:48

want to call out Ipods Women

13:50

for something. Our call out the

13:52

Independent Counsel or Women's Sports for

13:54

something very important. They've.

13:56

Taken on their social media

13:58

out high school. The and

14:00

Kids who play. A the outing

14:02

them on their social media. They're dead.

14:04

Namely, these kids. They got these kids

14:07

and you'll think that don't affect these

14:09

kids. These kids are get up. Especially.

14:11

In the state that are passing this legislation.

14:14

You. Have people that are going to be

14:16

linked to demonize a young person just because

14:18

they want to play. A game. Same thing

14:21

Leah Thomas. I. Mean the mere

14:23

fact that Riley gains. Can. Basically

14:25

call Leah Thomas a sex offender and

14:27

people believe it. That's a

14:29

lynching start as you have Riley Gains

14:32

when she went on Charlie current Flu

14:34

podcast and Trolley Curves Talk about this

14:36

is the take care of Leah Thomas

14:38

like we used to do back in

14:40

the fifties and sixties. Now travel. We.

14:43

Both black lists that sound like

14:45

to you Listen Okay join got

14:47

a spell it out for me

14:49

or gag of you know I

14:52

know This also makes me think

14:54

of in this is a necessary

14:56

of sports case but the same

14:58

environment in the the sentiment that

15:01

we're talking about Next Benedict I

15:03

was exactly going there. Will we

15:05

know for sure is that the

15:07

environment that these conservatives are creating

15:10

leads to an experience like Next

15:12

is right where. They aren't

15:14

supported in school where they are

15:16

are harassed and abused in school

15:18

and they feel like they're only

15:20

result right is to take their

15:23

life. But before we go Carly

15:25

I wanna just step back a

15:27

little bit right? Because in community

15:29

we often talk about how visibility

15:31

is of hair and off ride

15:33

my whole book we see each

15:35

other, black, trans or into Tv

15:38

and film is all about this

15:40

concept of visibility being a paradox.

15:42

On one hand. We as

15:44

trans people are more visible

15:46

than Amber right in the

15:48

pop cultural imagination. But the

15:50

victory all as you've already

15:52

just explained that the aimed

15:54

at trailblazing folks like Leah

15:56

Thomas were also experiencing unprecedented

15:59

violence as the community from

16:01

the Sports Bay and to

16:03

the don't say gay to

16:05

the you know the all

16:07

the other legislation not to

16:09

mention the murders that are

16:11

happening right of our siblings

16:13

in our Sisters More. ah

16:15

especially how do you reconcile.

16:18

That. Drastic difference of

16:20

experience that we're having at the

16:22

same time. If you reconcile it

16:24

at all, it's not so much that

16:26

reconcile it. We. Take it for what it

16:28

is, We take you for what it is on

16:30

one side. It's great to see this visibility. I

16:33

want to see more of it. I was your

16:35

everyday stories or talk of the fact that matters

16:37

what you see on these like social media and

16:39

all this nastiness us other every day. I.

16:41

Really, don't talk about being trans or that

16:43

much unless I'm on a forum like this.

16:45

We're actually talking about these things but in

16:47

my everyday a me when I'm at the

16:50

gym we just live in like everybody else

16:52

you got like my training partners and sports

16:54

much football team. they know any on care

16:56

that you're trans. Whoop Dee Doo! Make that

16:58

block and run through the right horse you

17:00

see that's all they care about. My mentor

17:02

and college always told me he doesn't know

17:04

who you are, know who they are and

17:07

what time it is. A we know who

17:09

vr a man and that's the thing that

17:11

bothers. Them the most and they're upset

17:13

about the fact that we are living.

17:15

Enjoy! That with my conversation

17:17

with sports journalists an athlete Carly shot in

17:19

a web will link to her work in

17:21

are so notes that the late for now

17:24

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then the case went before the

20:23

supreme court in October and the

20:25

justices have yet to make their

20:27

own of ruling yesterday. The same

20:29

federal judges. Said that South Carolina

20:31

can't wait any longer. the Faith

20:33

Congressional primary is in June and

20:35

some absentee ballots me to be

20:38

printed and said in less than

20:40

a month until the judges gave

20:42

the states okay to use the

20:44

unconstitutional maps. Meanwhile in Florida, federal

20:46

judges unanimously dealt a blow to

20:48

civil rights groups on Wednesday the

20:50

group's talents a map for twenty

20:52

twenty two that eliminated the northern

20:55

congressional districts last held by black

20:57

democrat our last them. But in

20:59

Wednesday's ruling. The judges said the

21:01

group needed to prove them both Gov

21:03

Rhonda fancies and the State legislature acted

21:05

with discrimination in mind when they approve

21:08

the map. The Fantasy: that guy we

21:10

now he is of course and at

21:12

least one of the judges clearly agreed

21:15

in his opinion are the judges Also

21:17

said that the legislature fought him at

21:19

several steps along the way before conceding.

21:22

As a result of Wednesday's ruling, the

21:24

Twenty Twenty Two map will still be

21:26

in use for this November's election, But

21:29

this issue is. Still on appeal in

21:31

State court. Or right so

21:33

from zero p Absurdity of the state

21:35

Level Two G O P absurdity at

21:37

the Federal level Republican House Speaker Much

21:39

Johnson says Hills and impeachment articles against

21:41

Department of Homeland Security Secretary Our hundred

21:43

my office to the Senate on April

21:45

tenth, Johnson said so in a letter

21:47

he sent to Democratic Senate Majority Leader Chuck

21:49

Schumer on Thursday. Tumors office responded in a

21:51

statement that centers would be sworn in as

21:53

jurors for the trial the following Dec on

21:56

April of. His. House Republicans very

21:58

narrowly empty. tomorrow is back. In some

22:00

worry over his handling of the Uss

22:02

awarded a move Democrats dismissed as cynical,

22:04

partisan, and unconstitutional it took republicans to

22:06

trust the first one. Field after three

22:08

Republicans join Democrats in voting against minorities

22:11

as impeachments a major embarrassment for Speaker

22:13

Johnson. Humor has an outline what to

22:15

trial in the senate will look like,

22:17

but there's almost no chance to democratically

22:19

controlled chamber will Convicted Dhs Secretary. Sam.

22:23

Been Freed The disgraced founder of

22:25

the Crypto currency exchange asked he

22:27

acts was sentenced to twenty five

22:29

years in prison on Thursday. A

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jury convicted him last year on

22:33

fraud, conspiracy, and money laundering charges

22:35

for stealing billions of dollars from

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Fcx his customers. Spank! Been Freed

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was facing quite a bit more

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time behind bars, and the twenty

22:43

five years he received Federal prosecutors

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had thought forty to fifty years

22:48

and his conviction carried a maximum

22:50

sentence of more than one hundred

22:52

years. The judge in the case,

22:54

Us District Judge Lewis Kaplan, said bank

22:56

mean fried also repeatedly committed perjury on

22:58

the witness stand. Bank Winfried has said

23:00

he will have he'll his and vixen

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because of course the well of course

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he will and will probably pay for

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it with crypto assist. Finally, we're pretty

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sure this is an early April Fools

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little debut a new line of sparkling

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this is that? Know. Again,

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we do think that this is an April

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man, pretty sure there are hot dogs are

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physicist and those are the headlines. Two.

24:08

More things before we go March. Thirty

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first is Cesar Chavez day. Tune into

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What a Day this Monday for a

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real conversation about why our immigration system

24:16

doesn't work and what's at stake this

24:18

November as both Biden in Trump make

24:21

their case for how to fix it.

24:23

will hear from people like Immigration Act

24:25

of is Danny My that oh he

24:27

who lives in Texas right along the

24:29

southern border. We are an area that

24:31

has been historically blue and I think

24:33

a lot of Athena voter and a

24:35

lot of border voters are. Looking for

24:37

an alternative? stick? And

24:39

when President Biden com and doesn't

24:41

provide a very clear out front

24:43

end up on that. I think

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it makes a lot of Latino voters question what

24:48

who should. We turn feel that episode

24:50

comes Monday on April First. Plus.

24:53

Earlier this week Constitutional Law professor Lille Lipman

24:55

join us to break down the latest abortion pill

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case that in front of a supreme court.

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strict scrutiny feet were Leah and her cohosts.

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