On this episode Dave and Nick discuss if they are passing the Mom Test or are they mothering each other too much, Nick is in a bit of a rut after a successful festival and looking for ways to break out of it, Dave discusses how he's using Fiver to get us a logo and Nick describes the podcast publishing process that he learned this week. But most importantly, stay tuned to the end to hear how Dave discovers that Big Mac special sauce now comes in a bottle!