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Hey, and welcome to What Future. I'm your host,

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Joshua Tzapolski, and I gotta

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listening right right at midnight. Anyhow,

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we're recording this on a Tuesday evening, and this

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is an iPhone day.

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So app released a new iPhone,

1:02

a new some watches, I guess, yeah, and

1:04

it's you know, that's big, I guess.

1:07

So I thought we'd talk about it. Lyra's

1:09

here with me, and Lyras Smith,

1:12

my producer, and really I think of

1:14

you know, I think of her as a friend as well. I'd like to think

1:16

that we are friends.

1:17

That's very nice.

1:18

Yeah, Well, I mean it's from the heart, you know, I

1:20

don't. I mean, she's contractually obligated to work

1:23

on the show, so I don't know if if

1:25

it's the feeling is totally mutual, but I'm

1:27

choosing to perceive it as a friendship and

1:30

anyhow, so I thought we'd rap a little

1:32

bit about the iPhone and maybe some other things.

1:34

To be honest, my energy is very low this week. The

1:36

onset of fall I think has somehow.

1:40

I love fall, but you know, I

1:42

feel like summer. I don't know, summer seemed

1:44

short to me. It's been very hot and

1:47

humid here. Maybe it's just

1:49

the weather. I feel like something's

1:51

happened where I just feel like I need to nap.

1:54

I need to hibernate. But anyhow,

1:56

before I hibernate, we should we should talk about

1:58

what's going on in the world, and namely

2:00

what just happened with

2:03

Apple new

2:20

iPhone, a brand new iPhone, the iPhone

2:23

fifteen. I feel like, if you're up to fifteen, you

2:25

should start calling it something else, like

2:27

fifteen's too high of a number. I think, what are they

2:29

gonna do like the iPhone twenty? It seems

2:31

dumb. I would start giving it

2:34

cool names, like like how they name cars

2:36

called like the iPhone Cheetah

2:39

or like the iPhone Lancer,

2:42

the iPhone Vagabond,

2:45

right, huh yeah

2:48

at any rate? Yeah,

2:50

totally No, I uh, there is an Apple

2:53

event today. I completely forgot about it. It's

2:55

just a sign of the times. It's very interesting, you know, it used

2:57

to be. I feel like it used

2:59

to be a really deal when they would release a new iPhone.

3:01

Maybe I'm crazy. People used to line up for them. Maybe

3:03

they still do. I don't know. Imagine

3:06

lining up for an iPhone. Just imagine

3:08

like waiting in line to get an iPhone. Can you imagine

3:10

it? Have you done it?

3:12

No? I can't remember the last time I got

3:14

in a line to purchase

3:16

something other than like a fun food.

3:18

Thing, like like a crow nut.

3:20

I mean, I didn't even get a credit, but I got There's

3:23

like a hot chicken place here

3:25

that was really really.

3:28

Popular, and

3:32

you stood in line for a chicken.

3:33

Was sitting in line for like two and a half hours, and

3:35

I had the time of my life.

3:36

That's fucking nuts, honestly.

3:38

And then at the very end, a

3:40

guy tried to cut.

3:43

Oh that's not good, and

3:46

I said no, yeah,

3:48

and then the person

3:51

in front of me let him cut.

3:53

Oh my god, why would you do

3:55

that?

3:55

So then I told the

3:57

person at the register, yeah,

4:00

what happened, and they they

4:03

like went all.

4:03

Out, like the confiscated his sandwich.

4:06

We got all our food served free for

4:08

one and then those people got

4:11

like banned and they didn't get their food and

4:13

it was a whole thing.

4:15

Wow, what a cop you are. Look at you? Who are a

4:17

real cop?

4:17

Well? I am a cop when it comes

4:19

to chicken that I have stood

4:22

in.

4:22

Line, lines and lines. No, I

4:24

think that's very rude to cut in line. People

4:26

who cut in line are

4:29

not good people. I don't know. I think maybe. I

4:31

mean, I've certainly gone to the front of lines,

4:33

but like in an airport when you're lining up, I feel

4:35

like there's a lot of confusion usually and people don't know where to stand,

4:37

and you just kind of like work your way in.

4:40

You know.

4:40

I don't feel like I'm cutting most of the time.

4:43

But like people who like willingly

4:46

or willfully cut into a line where people

4:48

are waiting, They're like, oh, you can I just go up

4:50

here. It's on the one hand,

4:52

you know they're smart, right, because they're just they're

4:55

they're counting on the goodwill of other people,

4:58

and they are using the good will of other people

5:00

to get in ahead in life, which

5:04

you know it's a user mentality. I don't know if it's

5:06

a good position to be in, like psychologically.

5:10

So on the one hand, you know, they're very clever, right you cut

5:12

in line, you use the goodwill of another person

5:14

to get into a spot ahead of everybody else.

5:16

On the other hand, they it seems like a really

5:19

pretty stupid and ugly

5:22

practice. I feel like there's something really offensive

5:24

about it, right, Like

5:26

you don't have to wait like everybody else waited.

5:29

On the other hand, you know the best

5:31

way to deal with this is to never wait in a line, which

5:33

is my policy. Like there's almost

5:35

nothing i'd wait and a ligne for, I

5:37

mean very little I would like stand

5:39

in line for. I'm trying to think

5:41

of the last time I was in a line, like

5:44

besides the airport, which doesn't really count, right,

5:47

I would say, because

5:49

you're not like, oh, I need to get a hot dog, You're

5:51

like, I have to get on this plane no matter what,

5:53

so I might as well get into the line. I

5:56

stood in line for a movie.

5:57

I don't think so, yeah, that's what I was going to say.

6:00

I don't think so honestly, I don't remember.

6:02

It's possible some time

6:04

in my life I stood in line for a movie. Definitely

6:08

probably happened like when I was younger, But

6:11

uh, I couldn't tell

6:13

you anything I've stood in line for recently. Yeah, I

6:15

mean I had like a grocery store or something, but that doesn't I don't

6:17

think that counts either. Anyway, I hope the chicken

6:19

sandwich was worth it or whatever it did you got? I mean, was

6:21

it good?

6:22

It was incredible?

6:24

Oh? There you go. Was it anything

6:26

like a double down, because I've had that? The

6:29

double down is the double decker? No

6:32

double down, it's a KFC.

6:34

The chicken is the bun.

6:35

Yeah, chickens the bun, and then I forget what's in between.

6:37

Maybe I want to say bacon in between. The chicken is like

6:39

the meat.

6:40

Like a VLT.

6:42

It's like something like a BLT, but instead of bread,

6:44

it's got chicken, which is like, you know, sure,

6:47

why not?

6:47

You know I had one of those?

6:49

Yeah, I had one too. It's pretty good.

6:50

Wasn't this This is like ten right?

6:53

Yeah? It was a long time ago. I mean that it was not

6:56

recent history anyhow. So Yeah,

6:58

Apple released a new iPhone today completely

7:01

completely, That's how we got all this topic. It's people

7:03

waiting in line for iPhones. But I think

7:05

it's a testament to where technology has taken

7:07

us that nobody really cares about the new iPhone. I

7:09

mean, it's hard to imagine caring about a new iPhone

7:11

in any way, Like, will I get

7:13

a new iPhone? Probably, you know, will

7:16

it be incrementally better than the last one? Definitely?

7:19

Does it matter? Not really?

7:23

Not really? You know, sometimes I see a

7:25

video on the internet, like somebody

7:27

comparing the cameras of two smartphones,

7:31

and I can't believe people are still

7:33

doing this after all this time. I mean, to

7:35

be fair, I did it for a long time, but just

7:38

interesting, you know. I feel like the world we've got

7:40

bigger problems right now.

7:41

I saw an interesting video about how

7:44

the moment that celebrities

7:49

partying and public ended was

7:52

the weekend that the iPhone was released.

7:54

You're saying, because of

7:56

the iPhone or the rise of

7:58

the camera in everyone's pocket,

8:02

celebrities stopped partying in places

8:04

where they would be visible and have

8:07

pictures taken of them.

8:08

That's what this woman who was around

8:10

at the time, and she said

8:13

that the week before the weekend

8:15

before all the celebs

8:17

were like openly doing

8:20

drugs, hooking up, like you'd

8:23

go to a club in la and you would

8:25

like see anybody doing anything.

8:28

And then the same weekend

8:30

that the iPhone came out was when Lindsay

8:33

Loewen had the ankle monitor

8:35

on, and within

8:39

twenty four hours there were like hundreds

8:41

of pictures from just regular people like

8:44

on the Internet of her at a club

8:46

wearing her ankle monitor.

8:49

Right right, bad situation for

8:51

her, And so that was like the end.

8:53

Yeah, it's interesting. I mean, for

8:55

sure, the surveillance

8:58

state we've all created has definitely behave

9:00

certain behaviors. On the other hand, think

9:03

about all of the things that we are now able to

9:05

see and capture and share that are

9:07

that would not have been possible without smartphones.

9:10

I mean, like the many crimes

9:13

of the police, you know, police officers

9:15

killing people, which like before

9:18

would just happen and people would just talk about it, but

9:20

you had no evidence there.

9:21

You wouldn't even hear about it.

9:22

You wouldn't even hear about it because it would just be people

9:24

talking and that would be it. So stuff

9:27

like that, I mean, you know, think about like the like

9:29

the capital the Capitol riots

9:31

like that. The January sixth shit is like a

9:34

bunch of these dufises were taking pictures of themselves

9:36

and like you know, or taking pictures of other people,

9:39

and uh, that's like led to

9:41

a lot of people getting arrested and being put in jail

9:43

for being insurrectionists.

9:47

You know, it's I mean, listen, it's a it's a double

9:50

edged sword. I mean when I think about what I've captured

9:52

with my smartphone camera, like

9:55

the moments in life that had been captured, the

9:57

sheer volume of photographic and

10:00

video recordings and

10:02

sort of archives of

10:04

our life and behavior, It's like never before,

10:08

I mean, never before in the history

10:09

of humanity have we been able

10:11

to so document ourselves and access

10:14

the document and reference and research

10:17

and analyze

10:20

the document of ourselves. I mean,

10:22

it's a really weird time. I mean, it's strange.

10:24

And that is all due to the smartphone that is.

10:26

I mean, the celebrity

10:28

thing is one thing, but I mean, you know, it's

10:30

let's like pan out no pun intended,

10:33

zoom out no pun intended to humanity,

10:36

to regular people, and think

10:39

about all of the things that people can be

10:41

captured doing now, Like all the ways

10:43

that they change how we interact

10:46

with each other. And I don't just mean like social networks and

10:48

stuff. I mean like what might

10:50

you not do at a party because you know somebody's

10:52

got a camera? What might you not say?

10:55

You know? And by the way, these are maybe good things, good

10:57

to be inhibited sometimes, right, Like

11:00

inhibition is probably useful in a lot

11:02

of situations. But you

11:05

know, it's like Apple has a setting

11:07

for like kids to like detect nudity

11:09

in their photos in their messages,

11:12

you know, because that's the thing

11:14

now that happens. Children are sending

11:16

like nude photos to each other, or they're sending you know,

11:19

kids are sending like photos of other people to people.

11:21

And it's like, yeah,

11:24

like that shit wasn't happening when I was a child,

11:26

Like it wasn't even possible. So the concept

11:29

of it was just so far removed from

11:31

anything that you'd have to ever consider. You

11:34

know, people were worried about like TNA

11:37

on MTV, which

11:39

is the name of my new documentary

11:42

about TNA on MTV. No, I don't you know, it's

11:44

funny. I mean, but now our problems are so

11:46

much more complicated and fast

11:48

moving. But then on the flip side, as I

11:50

said, what a world we've created. But

11:53

it does really a bit like a surveillance state. I

11:55

mean, like in one way, it's great, right because it's really

11:57

hard for like serial killers to operate. I mean that's

11:59

like that's a plot, I'd say, right, But now

12:02

it's like mass shooters are like, hey, I'm going to put it on Facebook,

12:04

so you know, six one, a half dozen or

12:06

the other or whatever. It's like we see a lot more,

12:08

we know a lot more we can capture

12:11

and prevent, probably more now because

12:14

of the way that cameras are ubiquitous.

12:17

But it also has other implications

12:19

that may not be as positive, Like

12:21

sometimes it feels like you're living in a police state created

12:24

by you and your friends and family, you

12:27

know. But on the other hand, an argument

12:29

would be, well, if you're not doing anything wrong, then who

12:31

cares? But then, of course the counter

12:34

argument to that would be who gets to decide what's wrong?

12:36

But then, like that's a slippery slope into like a

12:40

Ben Shapiro type of situation. It's

12:42

like like like Alex Jones type

12:44

of whatever. I mean, you know you

12:46

can't go down that road. But let's

12:49

just say serial killers have been really hurt

12:51

by the rise of the smartphone and

12:53

CCTV technology, which

12:55

I think is probably a positive. I don't know.

12:57

I don't know what your take is on that. You

13:00

don't have to take. You don't have a hot

13:03

take on serial killers.

13:04

I don't have all I take on serial killers.

13:07

Well, that makes one of us. It's

13:21

dark stuff. Anyhow, it's the new iPhone.

13:23

So it's the iPhone fifteen, the

13:26

iPhone fifteen, I want to say,

13:28

plus then there's another one called the iPhone fifteen

13:31

Pro. And then there's another one

13:33

called the iPhone

13:35

fifteen Pro Mac. These are all great names. They're

13:38

all great names, and the new iPhones and they have new

13:40

features. I don't know. I used to get very excited about

13:42

new things like iPhones, and now I feel

13:44

nothing. I feel dead inside what I hear about a new

13:46

iPhone. It's been

13:48

a real journey, I think. Is it my age?

13:51

I don't know. I think it's just the state of technology.

13:54

You know, we're in a real valley.

13:57

We've been in a valley for a while. I think everybody had

13:59

a little bit of a like

14:02

a false start on AI.

14:04

I mean, crypto and stuff

14:06

has been a little bit of a false start but then AI

14:08

is kind of the second false start, where it's like it's

14:11

like things that exist that don't exactly solve

14:14

problems and maybe don't solve them as well as

14:16

everybody tells you they will. I

14:18

think the iPhone, you know, solves

14:21

some real world problems, and I think spoke to a

14:23

real world desire for something. I think

14:25

everybody was sort of had become

14:27

very acclimated to what cell phones were capable of, and

14:31

there was like what's the next step here? Like where does this

14:33

go? I think that it makes

14:35

a lot of sense where they took it. But

14:37

I think we are in a valley, a

14:40

real kind of vast valley

14:42

right now. In terms of technological innovation.

14:44

I mean, there are things going on that

14:47

are amazing, but they're not exactly

14:50

like world changing. You might argue,

14:52

well, the electric the rise of the electric vehicle

14:54

is you know, could be world changing, and

14:57

I don't know. I mean, the argument there could be,

14:59

well, they use natural resources in other ways

15:01

and they're very you know, resource

15:04

intensive to produce, and you

15:07

know, you'd have to replace every car on

15:09

the road with an electric vehicle, which I will someday

15:11

I assume happen. But is it

15:13

like, is it a sea change moment for

15:15

it's not really. The cars are still cars. They're

15:17

not. They don't fly, you know, it's like we don't we still

15:19

need roads. I think that the

15:22

iPhone was like a completely new thing

15:24

for most people, like a completely new idea of

15:26

this, of this everything

15:29

in your hand, everything in your pocket. I mean, it's like what we're

15:31

talking about the camera stuff amazing

15:33

and amazing situation where I

15:35

follow a bunch of photographers on Instagram who are just

15:37

amazing photographers and they're using an iPhone

15:40

and their photos are, you know,

15:42

incredible, and you're like, like, there's just billions

15:45

of images being created every

15:47

day, millions billions. I don't know how many it is, but

15:49

just of everything just being snapped

15:52

everywhere you can imagine, you know, and mostly

15:54

most of them probably geolocated as well. It's

15:56

like you think about the way we've kind

15:58

of blanketed the planet in photography

16:01

and in geolocation and you

16:03

know, navigation. It's pretty wild.

16:06

But I think, but getting back to the point about the iPhone,

16:08

I think it served a real purpose, you know, at

16:10

a moment that that purpose needed to

16:12

be served. You know, electric

16:14

cars, forrinstance, are simply an evolution of a

16:16

car. It's a different way

16:18

to build a car, but they do essentially

16:21

the same things. Will that have a huge

16:23

impact on the planet, the health

16:25

of the planet, It's hard to say. At this point, it feels like the health

16:27

of the planet. Maybe we may be a little bit past

16:29

the window for great

16:32

repair now we just you know, we're probably more

16:34

like, I need a really good boat

16:36

or something like, you know, is Apple

16:38

going to make boats to get me out of the cities,

16:40

the sunken cities of the world.

16:43

Maybe someday electric boats,

16:45

I mean, that could be a whole new category. Wouldn't

16:48

be a game changer, but I think a lot of people could need boats

16:50

in the near future. I don't know. If you've seen the movie

16:52

water World, it's a very realistic

16:54

depiction of a future where the.

16:57

World is Can you have an electric

16:59

boat?

17:00

Yeah?

17:00

Of course you could charge

17:03

a boat in the water.

17:04

Could charge it. Yeah, you could charge it and then not

17:07

kill anybody. I mean, you plug it in somewhere.

17:09

Boat you could use solar. Wouldn't you

17:11

need a lot of solar to charge it? I mean, you know, hypothetically,

17:15

maybe there's a plug. You know, there's

17:17

like a plug like on the dock. You know you can. Yeah,

17:19

there's like some power running somewhere. There could

17:21

be I'm saying, you know, electric

17:24

boats exist. Okay,

17:27

I'm not like making this up. They exist.

17:30

I mean, here's a Wikipedia entry.

17:34

Electric boat is a powered watercraft driven

17:36

by electric motors, which are powered by

17:38

either onboard battery packs, solar panels,

17:41

or generators. So boats

17:43

powered by electricity have been used for over one hundred and twenty

17:45

years. So I guess.

17:48

I guess not only are there electric boats, but they're

17:51

like old technology for boats. So that's

17:53

interesting. Yeah, like electric

17:55

boats are a real thing, Okay, I mean

17:57

they're like a whole thing apparently so

18:00

at any rate, So, water World is a film

18:02

starring Kevin Kostner where the

18:04

world is covered in water, and

18:07

honestly, I don't know if I've ever seen

18:10

the entire water World. Now that I'm thinking of it,

18:12

I have to put that on my letterbox. But

18:15

I think the thing is like, you know, the only commodity

18:18

is like fresh water or something.

18:20

I want to say, maybe that's mad Max similar

18:24

setup, I think, but at any rate, that

18:26

could be us soon and people are gonna need boats and that's where

18:28

Apple comes in, maybe

18:30

just saying that's possibility. Yeah, it's interesting.

18:32

We're in a technological valley. We are

18:35

in a it's very incremental. Everything's very

18:37

incremental. Everything's very like based on you

18:39

know, if you loved If

18:42

you love this technology, you'll love this one that uses

18:44

a similar technology and does some stuff that's sort

18:46

of similar but isn't exactly the same thing. I

18:48

think the biggest deal with the iPhone today do you

18:50

know what the biggest thing is? The biggest announcement

18:53

today?

18:54

Is it the camera? No?

18:57

Wrong?

18:58

Wrong?

18:58

If you hid lyra you

19:01

continue to be incorrect about electric boats

19:03

and now the iPhone.

19:07

The biggest deal today is that they've changed

19:09

the port on the iPhone. Okay,

19:12

they've given it a new port. The lightning

19:14

port is done. The light do you know what the lightning

19:17

port is? That that's the you know whatever, it's

19:19

the fucking thing at the bottom of the iPhone that has they

19:21

think USBC. The USBC is

19:23

what they're using now. USBC

19:26

is what like all of their computers and the iPads

19:28

us But for some reason they kept like a

19:30

set of products using lightning ports, which

19:32

was the iPhone, the air pods,

19:35

and it's some other whatever now, so now every

19:37

now it's going to be everybody has a universal standard.

19:40

It's all just universally standardized.

19:43

Weren't they like legally required to do

19:45

that.

19:46

Yes, Yes, in Europe. I believe Europe

19:48

created a situation that was like required

19:51

electronics manufacturers to make

19:54

things like charging ports compatible because

19:57

otherwise it's like incredibly wasteful to

19:59

create lots of different standards that all do the same

20:01

thing, right, and like you have to produce

20:04

all of this extra stuff because of the change

20:06

and the difference in the pins or whatever, and it's like

20:08

not it's really like pretty

20:10

stupid since everybody else

20:12

is using a standardized like literally every other company

20:15

uses the USBC standard and

20:17

Apple has its own things classic

20:19

Apple. Actually, they've done it. They've done it. They've done this quite

20:21

a bit historically, where they have a port

20:25

that nobody else uses or they're the first

20:27

to use it, and it takes forever for

20:29

it to be adopted, or it never gets adopted, or it only gets

20:31

adopted a little bit, you know, But

20:33

that's cool. I think it's like you know, like like Fleetwood

20:36

Max said, you can go your own way.

20:38

I think that's what they said, is that the lyric? Am

20:40

I misremembering.

20:41

That that's the lyric.

20:43

That's the lyric. So you know, they

20:45

go their own way on a regular basis, and sometimes

20:48

it pans out and sometimes it doesn't. I assume

20:50

they made a boatload of cash selling lightning

20:52

lightning adapter accessories. That's

20:54

to me is where the money is anyhow.

20:57

So yeah, so that's it. That's that's the tech news

21:00

for the week, big technology news.

21:02

But like the rest of the world, I mean, you think about it, like whatever's

21:05

going on elsewhere is not good. There's

21:07

like five thousand people who died in Libya because

21:09

a damn collapsed, and then in

21:11

Morocco there's been a terrible earthquake

21:14

that killed like over a thousand people,

21:16

oh no, twenty nine hundred, over twenty

21:18

nine hundred people. Like,

21:21

you know, it seems like, I don't know, it seems like the world

21:23

is not doing well. Like out they're

21:25

doing like a Biden impeachment because

21:27

I don't know why they're like trying to impeach Biden

21:30

over something like like

21:32

I don't know what it is, but sure

21:34

it'll be a lot of fun for us. I'm sure it'll be a lot of good,

21:37

waste of everybody's time. I

21:40

don't know, getting back to the iPhone,

21:44

I want to tie everything into this conversation about the

21:46

iPhone. No, I don't.

21:48

I don't want to do that. I don't know.

21:50

I mean, everything that's happening in the world is bad, and I don't really want

21:52

to discuss it. You know, like I can't. What do I have to say about

21:54

about the flood you know

21:57

in Libya? I have nothing to say about it. It's

21:59

tragedy, sucks. You

22:01

know. Where we headed? Where's this all

22:03

going? When does it end? Or is it just

22:05

beginning? Nobody knows. Nobody

22:08

can be sure. We're all

22:10

just spirits wandering through this world, trying

22:12

to find a final

22:15

destination. You

22:17

know, have you ever seen that film Final Destination?

22:21

I love Final Destination.

22:23

Do you I you know,

22:25

no, I think, but I don't think I've ever actually seen

22:27

Final Destination. I know enough about

22:29

it, but I don't think I've ever watched a Final

22:31

Destination movie from beginning to end.

22:33

We watched like three of them in one

22:35

night last year, and it was really fun.

22:37

The plot of Final Destination is like people

22:40

survived like a crash or something.

22:42

Yeah, but they were supposed to.

22:43

They were supposed to die, and so so death

22:46

comes after them in all sorts of inventive

22:48

ways. Like they like, you know, like they're

22:50

on a roller coaster and the roller coaster like

22:52

rail detached and they go flying. They

22:55

go flying. It's like shit like that, right, It's like

22:57

it's not like they die of heart attacks, to

23:00

die of their sleep.

23:01

You know, it's very campy.

23:02

The guys feel like, if you have the power to derail a roller

23:04

coaster, why not just like float a knife

23:07

and stab them or something, you know, why not just or why

23:09

not just like strangle them with whatever power you use

23:11

to derail the roller coaster? Or is

23:13

it like subtle like there's this crew loose, like it's

23:15

not clear what happened.

23:16

Yeah, it's more like that. It's like it you couldn't

23:19

prove it, oh right.

23:21

It all looks like it looks like it just it's just an

23:23

accident. I think it'd be weird though, if like there

23:25

were like five people in a plane crash and they didn't

23:28

die and then they started dying with like

23:30

in really unusual ways. I think people would be

23:32

like, something weird is going on? Does that happen? In

23:34

the movies.

23:34

I feel like that they would call you a conspiracy

23:37

theorist if you said.

23:38

That, They would say that in the film. Is that what happens?

23:40

No, I mean, I don't think they say it in the film. I

23:43

don't think there's enough of like a news

23:45

story about it.

23:46

No, I guess there would be. But I do think if

23:49

like suddenly survivors of a plane

23:51

crash started dying, I think

23:53

there would be a news story about it. That's

23:55

what I think. Maybe I'm crazy, especially

23:58

if they was like, it's like people in this town, right,

24:00

they like live in the same town.

24:02

Yeah, they're all high school students together.

24:05

Yeah, right, that's right. I

24:07

think it's it's a cool concept. I like it.

24:09

Well, they've made seven of them, might

24:11

think so.

24:12

No, I know, I know. I feel like the

24:14

title is really misleading, clearly

24:17

not. It's nothing final about this destination. So

24:31

during the break, Lyra

24:33

said she was going to get a h I

24:36

think you said, jack and coke, and

24:38

I admonished her for drinking and I and I

24:40

sent her to the alcoholic Alcoholics

24:42

anonymous.

24:43

Website Alcohol Convention, the

24:45

alcohol.

24:46

I STO sent her to the Alcohol Convention. I

24:49

sent her the AA website, and I sent her the

24:52

meeting in her local area. No,

24:54

I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Of course, I love drinking,

24:56

as everybody knows. I'm a big fan of alcohol.

24:58

Of course, if it's not for you, that's fine. But I have been not

25:01

drinking recently, or at

25:03

least I have been attempting and somewhat

25:05

succeeding to not drink on a fairly

25:07

regular cadence and basis

25:10

I think I go through these cycles where I drink and don't

25:12

drink. Like you know, at the end of some cycle

25:14

of not drinking, I'll decide, like boy, having a martini

25:16

will be so awesome and it feels so good.

25:19

But I've been smoking weed more smoking

25:22

weed. That sound like I sound like a billion years old when

25:24

I say it. I don't know why I've been I've

25:26

been smoking. I've actually been vaping weed,

25:28

which I find much more enjoyable than smoking

25:32

like a joint or something. I think it's a smoke

25:34

really gets to me, I feel like and it affects

25:36

my I think I get like stoned

25:38

in a way that is different when I smoke

25:41

weed, like when I burn it. I don't know if that's

25:43

a common thing for most people, but

25:45

I have like embraced I have somewhat embraced

25:48

weed more than I ever have in

25:50

my life. And maybe it's something

25:53

to do with not drinking, maybe it's other stuff,

25:55

but I find it

25:58

is somewhat enjoyable to me now, which

26:00

I don't know lyra. I don't know if you smoke weed or not, but.

26:03

I did my whole life, and

26:05

then I got pregnant and

26:08

I didn't and then I

26:10

tried like

26:13

once after wrent

26:15

into it and I had the worst

26:18

panic attack. I was like googling,

26:22

is my breast milk now ruined? Like

26:25

you know, Like I was, like, I really

26:27

freaked out and it was not fun.

26:29

And now I'm I'm incredibly jealous of people

26:31

who can enjoy it because I just can't enjoy

26:33

it anymore.

26:35

Well, I mean, those you raise some issues

26:37

that I'm not I haven't had to deal with. I mean, certainly

26:40

you are. You are speaking on parts

26:43

of life that I will never have to you know, reckoned

26:46

with, which is great for me. It's

26:49

great, great for me as a man, just to

26:51

say that I'm not worried about any of

26:53

that. But yeah, I don't know, it's uh.

26:56

I don't really know. I mean, it seems like it seems like a very

26:58

mild thing, to be honest, it seems

27:01

like, even at my very most stoned,

27:03

I don't feel like the way I feel when I'm drinking, which obviously

27:05

it's a different thing. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe

27:08

it's just, you know, I'm like Huey Lewis,

27:10

Like Huey Lewis, I want a new drug,

27:13

you know, and I found one? Maybe

27:16

I think.

27:16

Did he find one? What

27:19

did he find one?

27:20

Did he find one? No? The point of that song

27:22

is that he wants a drug that doesn't exist. The

27:25

point of I Want a New Drug is, Yeah,

27:27

he wants a drug that doesn't make him

27:29

do all of the things that people do when they're on

27:32

drugs, like talk too much, like if you're on cocaine,

27:34

or make you feel thick if

27:36

you're high or whatever. And

27:39

I get it. I mean, I

27:41

think actually the song is about

27:43

he's with a he's dating a woman,

27:45

or he's with a woman who makes him feel like he's

27:47

high in a way that is different from any

27:49

other drug that he's done. And I think it's a beautiful

27:52

thing. And I think relationships can make you feel that way.

27:55

In fact, I think there's an actual physiological

27:57

reason for that that, Like people actually get high

28:00

from being with each other. When they like each other, there's a

28:02

whole bunch of shit going on biologically with you

28:05

with one.

28:06

That thing that like drug reaction,

28:08

it only lasts for the first like two to three years.

28:11

Is that right?

28:11

Yeah?

28:12

They should. Someone should create a drug that re ups

28:14

that. I think that would be a big hit. I feel

28:16

like it'd be a big hit that loves to be like

28:18

the love drug. It'd be like feel the way you felt

28:21

the first time or whatever, you know. I think

28:23

that would be really nice. I think it would be abused. I think people

28:25

would definitely abuse that. I feel like that would could

28:27

be very a very weird thing to

28:29

be to be doing anyhow,

28:32

you know, it's tough. Humans love to be

28:34

intoxicated, But I don't know. Drinking is

28:36

one of those things where the first drink is perfect.

28:38

I'm sure I've talked about this in the podcast before. The first

28:40

drink is perfection. The first drink is heaven

28:42

on earth. The first sip of the first drink,

28:44

the second sip of the first drink is

28:46

like the most perfect and magical. Maybe

28:49

I sound like an alcoholic when I say this the most perfect

28:51

and magical feeling. You're like, things are

28:53

going to be fine, Everything's going to be great. I'm

28:55

feeling good, you know. And I think that all

28:57

of drinking is really about recapturing the first few

29:00

SIPs of your first drink. I think that I

29:02

guess this is depending on how strong the

29:04

drink is. I'm not like a typically like a beer drink

29:06

or even a wine drinker. So for me, it's like

29:08

the first two SIPs of a martini, which

29:10

are pure alcohol, right, like one hundred

29:12

percent alcohol in there. So it's

29:15

a lot, right. God, I'm talking about this

29:17

now, and I'm like, I'm like, ooh,

29:19

a drink, south's really good. Like the fucking

29:21

power of suggestion, the power of

29:24

a person who suggests to themselves, Like

29:26

like, I'm sitting here going on, I'm feeling so good. I haven't

29:28

been drinking, and then yet at the same time as I talk

29:30

about those first two SIPs, I'm like, fuck, I'm

29:33

gonna break I'm gonna break my I'm gonna break my

29:35

run here tonight.

29:36

Martini's were always my drink

29:38

when I would It's

29:41

insane when I think about it. Now. But when I

29:43

like turn twenty one and I would go out in

29:46

this summer, I would have gin on the rocks,

29:48

not even a martini cause I didn't know. Yeah,

29:51

and then in the winter I would have gin meat and

29:54

that was what I drank for years.

29:56

That's hardcore. I mean, that's real stuff.

29:59

But I didn't know. I thought this is

30:01

what it is anyways,

30:03

and then I realized, oh,

30:06

martini is just that, but it's an actual,

30:08

real drink.

30:09

It's just alcohol.

30:10

Yeah, And so then I always drank martinis.

30:12

And then I introduced

30:16

and a full blown alcoholic

30:18

who only drank beer two

30:21

martinis, and then he was like

30:23

in love forever.

30:25

That's a You know, it's tricky. Not

30:28

everybody wants none. Everybody should drink

30:30

glasses of pure spirits.

30:33

I mean it's not like beer is one thing. It takes

30:35

a while to get drunk on beer, and like you get full

30:37

and you get tired and whatever. You know,

30:40

it does not take as long to get drunk on a martini.

30:42

In fact, like I would say, probably with one

30:45

martini, I'm pretty good. Two

30:47

is certainly more than enough. Three

30:50

is a mistake.

30:51

I've watched some very tall men

30:54

get drunk on two to three

30:56

martinis get sloshed.

30:59

You know, on your environment. There

31:01

are environments where I could drink Martini's

31:04

for a long time and not feel necessarily

31:06

like super duper drunk. And then there's like if I'm

31:08

at home and I have two, I'm like, Okay, I'm

31:10

pretty good, but yeah, drinking, you know, I'm

31:12

trying not to do it. I go through these cycles

31:14

all the time. I feel pretty good. I feel

31:16

pretty good about Like how where I am from

31:18

a health perspective. I am aware

31:20

of when I'm intoxicated or when i'm you know, high or

31:23

whatever. I'm drunk or high, but like, I'm

31:25

not a person who necessarily feels

31:27

like it has a I don't have a

31:29

negative, you know, I'm not like it's a big negative when

31:31

I get drunk or whatever. I'm not. I don't think that's actually the case.

31:33

I do feel like having, you know, when I

31:35

go on these stretches of not drinking. It's interesting how

31:38

much generally healthy

31:41

I feel like. I'm I eat less, way less.

31:43

That's a big one for me. It's like I eat way less,

31:45

like during the day, I eat less. At night, I eat less,

31:47

Like if I don't drink it all. My appetite

31:49

is very different, which I think find to

31:51

be i don't know, fascinating and

31:54

good ultimately, because like I definitely,

31:57

you know, have like the mid every time I drink, I'm like,

31:59

I'm gonna get a minut snack of some type, which

32:01

is usually some grouping

32:04

of disgusting items. It's like, it's

32:07

like and I'm going to scoop out this cream cheese

32:09

and heat it or something like that. You know, It's like I'm

32:11

gonna just have peanut butter straight from the jar or whatever

32:13

kind of weird shit you think of when you've had a couple of drinks.

32:16

Anyway, I feel generally healthier. Psychologically

32:19

I feel not because of drinking, just generally

32:21

lately I feel like a complete mess. But physically

32:24

I'm in at the top of my game. I

32:26

mean, physically I'm like a like

32:28

an Adonis, like a like a

32:31

like a god. Really and

32:33

mentally I'm all fucked up. But physically I'm

32:35

like watch out, watch out world,

32:38

you know. And if my mind whereas together as my

32:40

body is right now, it's no telling what could

32:42

happen. Honestly, maybe I'll run to

32:44

be president. Maybe I'll start my campaign

32:47

right now. That's how good I'm feeling physically

32:50

anyway. So I have been drinking. You

32:52

know what I have been doing is checking out that new iPhone.

32:55

And I gotta tell you what a great

32:57

new entry into the iPhone cannon. Fifteen.

33:01

I didn't think we get here, My god, I never

33:03

thought we'd get to fifteen. And here we are. And

33:05

I can see it now with sober eyes. I'm seeing

33:08

it all unfold for the first time,

33:10

perhaps through the lens of sobriety.

33:12

And I gotta tell you it's a trip.

33:14

When they the ten came out, isn't

33:16

they called the iPhone X X. They

33:18

call it the X, the X, and then they just went

33:20

back to eleven.

33:21

I want to say something. I think it's possible that

33:23

the X was actually

33:25

the ninth iPhone. There's some weird thing

33:27

where it actually wasn't huh. I gotta, I gotta

33:29

look this up now. I want to say, there's some weird,

33:32

some weird like Apple math. Okay,

33:35

it's the eleventh phone. The

33:37

iPhone AX is the smartphone design developed and marketed

33:39

by Apple Incorporated. It is part of

33:41

the eleventh generation of the iPhone.

33:44

The naming of the iPhone X skipping the iPhone

33:47

nine is to mark the tenth anniversary of the iPhone.

33:49

Okay, I guess that makes sense. Sure,

33:51

Yeah, twenty seventeen, right, twenty seven

33:53

and twenty seventeen. Okay, but it's the

33:56

eleventh generation of phone. And I guess

33:58

they're saying it's they skip I

34:00

guess I'm confused. They skipping the iPhone

34:03

nine. So was there an iPhone eight? I

34:05

don't remember, Yeah, iPhone eight. It was iPhone eight. And

34:07

then they went They didn't go from nine and then to ten.

34:09

They went from eight to ten. And the tent was

34:11

to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the existence

34:14

of the iPhone, not the tenth model, even though up until

34:16

then I believe the numbers indicated

34:19

the number of iPhones that had

34:21

preceded it, you know, plus one or whatever. This

34:24

is all great stuff, This is all important stuff, and I'm glad

34:26

that we got to the bottom of it. All right, Anyhow, we should

34:28

probably wrap up, I mean, because honestly,

34:31

I might have to get a drink now. No, I'm not going

34:33

to. I think I'm going to get my vape.

34:35

Get out the vape. See what happens, See

34:38

what happens when I stop being ployed, start

34:40

getting real, you know, which

34:43

is different from how I am now. Well,

34:52

that's our show for this week. We will be back

34:54

next week with more what future and

34:56

I don't know, I don't know if we'll still be talking about the iPhone

34:59

fifteen. You know, it's possible, made

35:01

anything's possible, And until then,

35:03

I wish you and your family the very best