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Hey, and welcome to what Future.

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I'm your host, Josh Wazepolski. And

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today I have to say I'm in an

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interesting place mentally and

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physically. You know, physically it's not that interesting.

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I'm at home, but mentally

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I'm traveling. I'm traveling

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through the stars. Now I'm not actually doing that. I

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am a little exhausted, you know, because

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I have been traveling. And

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you know, when you go on a trip and

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it's a long trip, and then you come back,

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no one but you was on the trip. Everybody

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else was where they were. When you come back home,

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you were on this weird

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journey with all these strange people

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and all of the people you know, like

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your family, like my family for instance, or

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the people I work with who didn't we're not traveling.

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It's just like life was just going on

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normal, and so you're you may

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have had a life changing experience.

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I didn't have a life changing experience, but one might

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have had a life changing experience on their journey.

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And then you have to like ear the back at the back

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in the office on Monday or whatever. It's

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very straight hard to transition. In my

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opinion, there should be a I think after

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a trip there should be a period and

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you should get like a few days of everybody

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leaves you alone so you can re enter society

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like a if you've been in prison. It's kind of

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like ease back into the world

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of the non imprisoned. Anyhow,

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I'm not saying travel is like being in prisoned.

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But you just said it's like a halfway.

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No, I didn't. Did I say that transitional?

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No?

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I mean I mean I'm saying you have to transition.

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I'm saying you should be given time to

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transition back into the normal world,

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like if you go somewhere, especially if it's far away

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and you're not there for like you're

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not doing the same things you do all the time. I

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mean, I think, you know, maybe this is just the oh, I need a vacation

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after the vacation. I didn't take a vacation, but if

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I had, right, Like,

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do you buffer when if you go on a trip, do you

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buffer time afterwards to like return

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to your life, because I think people

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should.

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No, No, I don't mean

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you mean you add on an extra day

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or you come back a day early. That's right, Yeah,

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you ad Yeah, I've never

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done it. I mean it sounds incredible, but It's

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never been an option in my life.

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Right, No, it's not really an option for anybody. I'm not

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saying you can. I mean I'm saying, like, you know, I've

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cut trips short for the purpose of

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having a day that isn't being on the trip.

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I mean, like, Okay, that's enough. I

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got to go home so I can like get

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back into the swing of like living of

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normal life. But before I talk

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about my travels, which I guess I have a little

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bit, there's something more more

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pressing and more present that has occurred. So

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I got rear ended. Did I tell you this? I've

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started to tell you guys. By the way, when you say

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I was rear ended, I feel like it does it It's not immediate,

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like to everybody that you're talking about the car. Is

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that just me? Look yeah, Like

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I hear the words, I'm like, it takes me a second

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to think about what that means. You

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know, rearended. It doesn't sound like a

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car accident. Sounds like it kind of sounds like a

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sex thing. To be honest, I

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was rereended. It's like it's like

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that feels like a genre, a porn hub, like

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a tag on corn hub.

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I think you're the only one thinking that.

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Nah, somebody else's thought it, believed me. None

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of these thoughts are that original. None of them are

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that thought.

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They haven't said it.

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Well, that's why I'm getting paid

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the big bucks, so I'm not afraid to say what's on

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everyone's mind. Rear Ended

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sounds like a sex thing. Anyhow,

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I was rear ended yesterday. I was sitting

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at a stop a stop light

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and a light a red light. Do

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people call red lights stop lights? Nobody calls

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with that, right, that's not a phrase. Anyhow,

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I was sitting at a light and a

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like, I don't know, I don't

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know. Maybe I want to say

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two thousand and two Grand Cherokee rear ended

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me. You know, it's funny because like I heard

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the screech of the of the tires on the it

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was it had been raining, but this person was definitely

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going too fast. I heard the screech of the

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tires and I was like, oh, that's a bad noise. That

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doesn't sound good. But I didn't do anything, like,

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I just sat there for a second. I mean, it happened very

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quickly, but it was interesting

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because I'm like, that is not a good sound. And then I

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got hit. But you know it's funny about

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the Tesla is that they have cameras everywhere,

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and the cameras are recording all the time.

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So I have footage of the act accident, which

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is interesting, and honestly that the

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Cherokee ends up a lot worse than my car. My car

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actually has no damage on it from what I can tell. There's like a little

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scuff on the bumper, but the

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Cherokee's bumper was like fully dented.

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So can I ask you a question about how that works?

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Like, please, do I see this? There's

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like baby monitors that are always recording.

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Yes, where does that go?

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Like I mean if with Tesla's always recording,

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does it erase him on the line?

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It does erase? Yeah, it erased it. So there's there's

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a little U SD card in the

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glove compartment which I actually didn't even realize was there.

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But they have this little SD card plugged into

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a USB port in the glove compartment and

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it's recording some amount of

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footage, like I had like an hour of driving

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footage from that day. Now I went to check

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it. I was going to show Zelda. I was telling

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her about it, and this morning. I was as I

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was dropping her off at her summer camp.

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I was like, you know, I had this

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video of it, and then I went to look for it and it's

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gone, like it has been replaced by newer video.

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So I assume that there. What's interesting is you would

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think the car they would have at least enough of intelligence

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to go, hey, this car.

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The car got hit by another car,

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so we should keep that. Although I did save

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the video, so I have it on my computer. I

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have the saved video from

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all of the cameras as the accident happened

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with the bummers. I don't have any of the video after

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it, because there's some video of me walking around the car, which

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I would like to check out, see how I look,

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you know, see how my pants are fitting, that kind of stuff, But

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that's gone forever. I guess I'll just have to do that

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right now. I'm gonna go walk around my car just

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like casually, and then I can look. I could review

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the footage anyhow, but then I also

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have a new injury. I have a bad injury I

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have I think it's called bresiitis

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in my elbow. I don't know exactly

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how it happened. But it's very painful

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if I lean on my right elbow like on

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a chair, or even like if I'm in bed and I

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prop myself up to read or something. Doesn't

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happen all the time, but a lot of the time. Now it is

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like a level ten. You know the pain chart, You

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know where they have the faces. Have you ever seen the pain chart?

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Yeah, pain charts a good name for a band. Also,

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like he did, for like a metal

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band. It's like a ten on the pain

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chart. Ten is like as painful as anything

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can be. Of course, I'm also a man,

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huge baby, so for me it's

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a ten. For a normal person it's probably like a three.

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But they say that men always register

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their pain is higher on the scales than

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the women do.

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Well. Men are, as we know, huge, huge babies

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and have a low tolerance for pain and

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discomfort. I mean, most of the world's

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problems, I imagine are because like men

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didn't want to be uncomfortable or put out,

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or like you know, they were angry about having

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their feelings hurt or something like

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nine out of ten times, like a war has started

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because some man was hurt

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by another man. In all likelihood,

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huge babies of all of us the whole

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set. You know, I'm

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broken down piece of meat like Mickey Rourke

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from The Wrestler. I'm just slowly deteriorating.

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Hope.

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My whole body is falling apart. You

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know, the car got hit, my elbows

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fucked up. What's next? You know? Are

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those things related? Probably not, but we

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can't rule it out anyhow.

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I was in can which is how I'm

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saying it, and I don't know if that's I feel like that's

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how Americans say it. I don't know if it's how everybody

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says it. Jenna, you speak

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French, right, No?

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I speak Spanish, but I would say calm, but.

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Larra, do you speak French?

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I don't, and I would say can.

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I felt very dumb there, of course, because

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I don't speak I speak no French.

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I can make the sounds if

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I know the word, but I don't really know any words.

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By the way, I haven't been out of the country for many,

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many years, obviously, and

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I had to get a new passport.

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I have to get a new passport too.

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Well. Let me tell you you can get one quickly. Do you know what

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the trick is?

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No? What is it you?

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Let's say you're a month away from travel. You need a passport.

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Now, you need to get one. A month away

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from your travel will take you seven to nine weeks

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minimum to get one. Okay, But

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if you wait, if you just wait

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till you're within fourteen days of

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travel, you have booked a ticket, you

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have proof of that you have to travel.

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There's no alternative. You stand

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to lose a bunch of money because your ticket will be useless

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because you won't be able to take your trip. You

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can call a number and sometimes you get through

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a number to the US Department

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of State or State Department, some

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people refer to it, and they will

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maybe be able to find you an appointment at

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a passport a special kind of passport

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office. There are only a few of them in

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America. And then they

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will maybe make an appointment for

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you to go and get a passport. They're like be

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here at ten o'clock. You're like, oh, okay, cool, I

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have a passport an appointment to get my passport

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that day. They will make you a passport. Okay,

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So this cost one hundred and ninety dollars

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in fees, which is fine, like whatever.

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Like if you're flying to another country and

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you're going to lose all of your ticket

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money or whatever, have your trip ruined. It's it's

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nothing. But the ten

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o'clock appointment is not just for you. The

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ten o'clock appointment is for everyone.

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Everybody got invited to be there at ten o'clock

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and it is a lot of people, and

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everybody needs a passport today,

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and we're all in it together.

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I got into line, got

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there at like nine thirty in the morning. I'm like, I'm

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early. I got into a line out

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the door of the passport office, stretching

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down a sidewalk, across a

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drive, a parking lot entrance.

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And you know, I made lifelong friends that day.

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I met people and bonded with people

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and experienced things with those people that you

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know, a lot of people will never experience, a lot of other

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people will never get to get to experience.

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And it was a chaotic scene. They did give me a passport

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eventually, but it

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was a very interesting experience. You really got an he

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really gives you a taste of

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the government and action and saying

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it's a bad system. But there's

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definitely some things that could be improved about

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it, Like there are

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a lot of things that could be improved about it.

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You're telling us about the Hunger Games and passport.

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Yeah, it was right. It was like the Hundred Games.

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I was picturing you as Clive Owen

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and children of men the whole time.

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There was a very children of men vibe

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to a lot of it, like you

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know a lot of like people waiting in lines,

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hoping to make the cut for something or whatever.

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So they run you through this process and then

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they say come back. Now. It's

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interesting. Some people, some people at the window

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said told people come back here at

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one o'clock. Some people

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would like my person said, you

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can pick it up between one and three, okay,

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between one o'clock and three o'clock in the afternoon.

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So I went home and then I came back. And

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when I got back, things

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had gotten, Things

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had gotten a little ugly, things had gotten. They gotten,

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They had gone from okay to bad,

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and maybe we're traveling towards from bad

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to worse. And there's a huge

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amount of people waiting, and that the security

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guards there. I'm not security guards. I guess

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there's some type of law enforcement. You

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know. They were like yelling at people to you

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know, not rush into line. And it doesn't

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matter because nope, You're only going to get your passport

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when somebody calls your name. And then they

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were telling people. They were like, I saw somebody vaping.

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I don't know who thinks you can vape in a government

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building. And you know, to be

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honest, it never occurred to me you couldn't vape in

12:29

a government building. So you know, I put it away just

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kidding. Vaping, I think,

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actually, can you even picture and me? Vaping doesn't

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It doesn't compute mentally. The

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officer there was like, I've never seen it this

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packed, I've never seen it this crazy. I've

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never seen anything like this. We're just totally overwhelmed.

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So we're going to take your they give

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you a slip of paper to pick up your passport. They're

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like, we're going to take your slips of paper and

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we're going to take them upstairs, and

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then someone's going to come down with

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whatever passports are ready

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and are going to call

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people's names. And

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it sounded like and I think what

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was the case is that they had just created

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like an ad hoc system that

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they had never done before or had rarely

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done, and so

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it was like you have this little piece of paper you just handed over.

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Then that's it. Like as far as getting your passport, that's

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the only thing you can use to pick it up. And then it goes

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to upstairs into a mysterious room, and then a person

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comes down. This woman comes down this uh,

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you know, not elderly and she was a bit

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advanced in age. She comes down, she's behind

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she's inside of a box, a plastic box

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like where they check you in originally, and

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you know, she starts just yelling people's names,

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but like there's no amplification.

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She can't pronounce a lot of the names. It

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was like, is this is this

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the end of the process, this bureaucratic

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process. Is like this old woman

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in a box is screaming a name she can't pronounce

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in the hopes that the person happens to be a

13:59

sitting there and be here's it.

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Listen, Nothing tragic happened, but there

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was just a lot of the tension in the room was palpable.

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Man. What she called my name, It was like God

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himself had come down from heaven and

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put me in a nineteen

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twenty six Rolls Royce and driven me to

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the pearly gates.

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That's what God does.

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I don't know. I don't know. I was trying to think

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of what God would do if he came down here

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to help, Like what's he doing.

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I don't know, driving you around?

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Apparently, you know, classic

14:45

like Sistine Chapel. God with the beard. He's

14:47

got like a really nice like iridescent

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like the color of the Rolls Royce, Like one of those classic

14:52

cars is the big swoopy wheels, and the

14:54

color of the car is like an iridescent purple.

14:57

You know, it's like you can't quite make out exactly what

14:59

the color is. And he will just take

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he can take you anywhere. You know. That to

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me is like feels right. I don't know

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if it's if it is right, you know,

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I don't I don't think God exists, but

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I think if God did exist, that's the scene

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that would be the vibe, right, that's the vibe

15:15

like a kind of Rick Rubin ish

15:17

situation. Maybe. But I

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don't think Rick Rubin even drives. He

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probably just is like he has a guy who drives.

15:25

He drives. He's like a guy who like never

15:28

wears shoes. I think it's just like I think he's

15:30

obviously a very important person and has done some amazing

15:32

things, but his vibe is like, I

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don't know. I bet he's really annoying. I

15:37

bet he smells not

15:39

any Rick Ruben on the podcast, I bet he. It's

15:41

like a guy who doesn't he use deodorant. He's like deodoran

15:43

his poison. That's what that's the vibe

15:46

I get from Rick Rubin. I'm not saying

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he's dirty. I'm just saying he rejects things

15:50

like deodorant and shoes. Not

15:52

a hippie way either. I think he's an

15:55

incredibly materialistic capitalist

15:57

guy. But but I think there's just he's

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he's like, you know, like one of these tech VC guys. Like there

16:02

is a story in the Wall Street Journal about how all

16:04

these that the vcs and there and

16:06

the founders are all like doing drugs now. They're

16:09

all like micro dosing or like doing

16:11

ketamine or whatever. And it's

16:13

just like it helps me, like you know, come up

16:15

with solutions to complicate problems or whatever. And

16:18

it's like, no, it doesn't. It makes you high,

16:20

which is fun, and that

16:23

is it. Like I don't believe for a second

16:27

that it's like you're the next breakthrough

16:29

is going to happen because you're fucking micro dosing

16:31

or whatever.

16:31

I don't think people get professional

16:34

breakthroughs from micro dosing, but I do think

16:36

that people have personal breakthroughs for micro

16:38

doess.

16:38

I'm I'm talking about the therapeutic uses of

16:40

of LSD. I'm talking about guys

16:42

who are like, this helps me, you know, figure

16:45

out how to do the layoffs or whatever. You know, Like

16:47

that's you know, like I would, I have to do it

16:49

difficult? What I have to do, A difficult calling of the staff.

16:52

I like snort a little ketamine which

16:54

takes the edge off.

16:55

The Silicon Valley guy who invents the public

16:58

bus.

16:58

That's what I associated, right, we No,

17:00

It's like it's like Ela Musk inventing

17:02

like a kind of a way worse subway.

17:05

He's like invented a tunnel, you know, like literally,

17:07

and he was probably fucking high.

17:10

And and if the people who give him money

17:12

to do things are are also high, it's

17:14

a bad It's a bad combination. It

17:16

explains a lot, though, I think like it explains a

17:18

lot about what's going on in Silicon Valley

17:21

at the moment, you know, it sort of explains even

17:23

things like the apple of virtual reality

17:25

headset, all all that stuff like metaverse

17:27

and fucking it's just

17:30

all it's such, it's such like a fantasy.

17:32

It's such a strange fantasy that

17:34

everyone out there seems to be having that it's just

17:37

so completely detached and out of touch

17:39

from like meaningful

17:41

reality. And then I say, this is a guy who would

17:43

love to just zap himself into a virtual

17:45

reality situation and never come back. I

17:48

don't know anyhow, So how do they

17:50

give on the topic of drugs.

17:53

About smelling bad, which, which,

17:55

by the way, made me think about how my mom.

17:57

Used to say she always was sure that Larry King

17:59

smelled bad.

18:00

Larry King looks like he smells like mothballs.

18:02

He looks like he smells like he just got the suspenders

18:05

out of old like one

18:07

of those old sup brown leather suitcases with the little

18:09

flippy things that open it up, and inside

18:12

of it were a whole bunch of suspenders

18:14

and mothballs, you

18:17

know. But you know, rest in peace.

18:19

I feel like mixed with like a bag of farts.

18:22

There's something like old.

18:24

Maybe maybe he looked

18:26

dry to me, though he just generally looked dry,

18:29

you know, like, and I associate dried dryness

18:31

with the mothballs. I yes,

18:33

I don't know why. I don't know why. I guess

18:36

mothballs aren't really there for keeping things dry.

18:38

I haven't smelled a mothball in a while. Actually, people

18:41

don't do that anymore.

18:42

I have them because we have moths,

18:44

so I have them in my.

18:47

Okay, you

18:49

have mothballs like hany ones,

18:51

you know that, like they're hangars.

18:53

Okay, but I don't want my clothes

18:55

to be eaten.

18:56

So oh well, god, I mean that's

18:58

not that doesn't happen. The moths don't

19:00

eat clothes. This is like an old wives

19:03

tale. That's actually is that sexis to say it's

19:05

an old person's tail.

19:07

I think it takes like a very very

19:09

long time.

19:11

I think it's like I was on the Santa Maria, you know,

19:13

and I had my fucking cask full

19:15

of clothing, and like the moths got in there,

19:17

like to my they got onto my tunics.

19:20

Is this a real problem? It feels like not a real problem.

19:22

Go back to Larry King and his smell.

19:24

Yeah, Larry King, No, I don't know he made

19:26

didn't smell that good. I feel bad for saying the record

19:29

looks like he stinks, But you know what I mean, I don't

19:31

know he probably does. I know, I've known a

19:33

lot of guys in the music world that have a similar

19:35

vibe. I guess, and yeah,

19:38

you know, they're just kind of like, no, you know, I

19:40

reject things.

19:42

Like who do you think smells good?

19:44

What do I think smells good?

19:45

No? Who do you think smells good that you've never met?

19:48

Oh, that's an interesting question. That's

19:50

an interesting question men or women? Or

19:52

do we do we care?

19:53

Like?

19:53

Is it do we want to go? Is there anything any

19:56

gender preference here?

19:57

I mean, you did just slander two men.

19:59

Well I didn't actual see my Larry King was based

20:01

off of Jenna saying

20:03

that's something.

20:04

That's my opinion him smelling bad.

20:07

But if you ask me, what do you think Larry King smells

20:09

like? I guess like more off balls,

20:12

like the answer I would give because that is,

20:14

you know, but I don't know. Maybe I'm just saying that because he's old. Maybe

20:16

that's agism.

20:17

He had many wives, I know, I

20:19

know.

20:19

Well he had a lot of money. I think that is

20:22

very helpful. Maybe I'm just being agist,

20:24

you know, maybe he smelled great, Maybe he smelled like fucking

20:27

you know, uh jovon

20:29

MOSKV.

20:32

Is that do they still make that. That's a that's a

20:35

corner store cologne.

20:37

Who do I think smells good? Larsen?

20:40

Wow?

20:41

I don't know why

20:42

she?

20:44

Why?

20:44

Why he?

20:45

Of all people?

20:46

So I don't know. I don't

20:48

know. She just popped into my head. I'm trying to think

20:50

of who else might smell good. I have a very

20:52

bad sense of smell, so I kind of don't

20:54

smell much of anything. I generally

20:57

assume most people smell fine.

20:59

Like I'm not walking around going like people

21:01

all people stink or I'm concerned about people

21:03

how people smell. And I feel

21:05

like I've really dug a hole here with this Rick

21:08

Ruben comment. But yeah,

21:10

I don't really think about it. I guess you

21:12

know. My concern is more like do I smell?

21:15

As you know, I'm very self centered and focused

21:17

on my own shit, and I'm like,

21:19

you know, how do I smell today?

21:21

Like?

21:21

Am I? Okay? That's the things like you never really

21:23

know what you smell? Like, you know, you have no

21:25

idea what you actually smell like you'll never know, You'll

21:28

never know. Does that? Do you find that maddening?

21:31

Yeah?

21:31

To think about, Like I'll get

21:33

out of the shower, I do my stuff or whatever. I'm thinking,

21:35

Like, I feel pretty fresh, I feel pretty clean. I feel like I

21:37

smell great. But like maybe it's

21:39

too much, maybe it's not enough. Maybe

21:42

I stink for some reason I don't even know.

21:44

And when when you're pregnant, your

21:47

bo actually changes, Oh,

21:50

it is very pungent.

21:51

It gets better or worse.

21:54

It gets way worse. That

21:56

is the that's the trip. When

21:59

you smell your your bo that is now

22:01

different in the moors.

22:03

Eh, that does sound terrible. That sounds

22:05

like a kind of like a horror movie. But I mean

22:07

a lot of a lot of pregnancy is sort of like a horror

22:09

movie in my opinion.

22:10

No interesting, but they

22:13

made a horror movie about it.

22:14

Well, no, I know that's I

22:16

think more than one.

22:18

Yeah, well I would say there's one. I mean, there's like a new

22:20

one, is what I mean. I asked Kyle the other

22:22

day if Alien was based off pregnancy, and

22:24

he said.

22:24

No, Okay, he's wrong, Okay, he's fucking

22:26

wrong. Actually, let me tell you, because I could. I

22:28

have read extensively. There's

22:31

a guy named Dan O'Bannon who wrote Who's

22:33

a really weird, interesting guy who has

22:36

written and made a lot of interesting

22:38

science fiction. I believe he wrote or

22:40

co wrote the original Alien story. And

22:43

and he said, first off, the

22:45

alien, the way the

22:48

alien inseminates its host, they

22:50

wanted to reverse the

22:53

rape thing. They wanted to have like essentially

22:55

like like male rape was

22:57

the inspirit, like the horror

22:59

of rape, but applied to like

23:02

not a woman, you know, and obviously you know, other people

23:04

can be rape. But they had this idea that it was like going

23:06

to be as horrific as a rape. And then

23:08

I do think that the I do think

23:10

the chest bursting part

23:13

of it is meant to be uh yeah,

23:15

like a pregnancy parallel, you

23:17

know. I mean, of course, I

23:20

don't see how it couldn't be. The entire thing is centered

23:22

around like mothers and like and like birth,

23:24

and uh, I don't know. I don't know what he's talking

23:26

about. I think he's way off on net with that answer.

23:29

I also flucked in, by the way, and totally

23:32

challenged that Alien is based

23:34

off wasps or something xenomorphia

23:37

or something.

23:37

No, that's wrong. That's like some idea that a child

23:39

would have about what Alien is about. But

23:42

that's I don't hear what he just

23:44

said. No, it is

23:47

it is, though, because here I'm going to tell I'm going

23:49

to read to read your Dan O'Bannon

23:51

production writing. I'm reading the Wikipedia

23:54

entry right now. Oh. Bannon described the sexual

23:56

imagery as overt and intentional. I'm going to put

23:58

in every image I can think of to make the men and the audience

24:00

cross their legs. Homosexual, oral

24:03

rape, birth, the thing lays its eggs

24:05

down your throat, the whole number. That's

24:07

the guy who created the story for Alien

24:10

Speaking. Okay, so

24:13

I don't know about the wasp stuff. Sounds

24:16

like Dan O'Bannon had some other ideas about

24:18

what it meant.

24:19

You know, it's a ten on the pain.

24:21

Scal Wow,

24:25

good callback, Thank you dude. It

24:28

is a ten on the pains. Guess a lot like my elbow

24:31

versidas. It's

24:33

very similar actually in a lot of ways.

24:35

At any rate, I was actually talking

24:38

to some of my coworkers today about

24:41

the box office situation. It's very bad situation

24:44

out there for blockbusters. The superhero

24:47

fatigue has set in. People

24:49

don't want to see the Flash starring Ezra

24:52

Miller.

24:53

That person that I thought was in.

24:55

Jail, Ezra Miller. That's his name,

24:57

right, I thought.

24:57

Azra Miller was in jail this whole time until

25:00

the press start coming out.

25:02

Ezra Miller has been accused

25:04

of some some very mysterious and not good

25:07

sounding stuff. And you

25:09

know, it was sort of feeling canceled

25:11

ish, and then they're like,

25:13

now we're gonna but you know, we made this movie with him,

25:15

so with them, sorry, and

25:18

so we got to do it.

25:19

Wasn't there kidnapping involved?

25:21

They apparently kidnapped. I mean, this

25:24

is the accusation. I have no idea

25:26

what the real story is, to be honest, I haven't looked that much

25:28

into it because it sounded depressing

25:31

and bad and I can only engage with

25:33

so much bad news at a time. But yeah,

25:35

they like kidnapped some underage

25:39

I guess. I guess you can kidnap a non underage

25:41

person, although it's kind of right there in the name. I feel

25:43

like they should. Is there a different word for when

25:45

you when you kidnap an adult? Is

25:47

there a different word?

25:48

This is?

25:48

Ezra Miller officially apologizes

25:52

for kidnapping girl.

25:53

Hey, we've all been there.

25:55

There's nothing alleged here.

25:56

We've all had to issue an apology for doing a kidnapping

25:58

of a youth. I mean, who hasn't Who amongst

26:01

us hasn't issued a formal

26:03

apology for doing a crime.

26:07

Okay, but let me read this to you. Okay,

26:09

please do After receiving a

26:11

felony for burglary

26:13

in men oh okay, Ezra

26:16

Miller was accused of brainwashing and grooming

26:19

a teenage girl and exploiting

26:21

other children.

26:23

Oh.

26:23

Now, the actor is attempting to salvage

26:26

the situation by sharing an apology.

26:31

I mean, I don't know if that gets you

26:33

see all the way there, if all those

26:35

accusations are are true,

26:38

I think, or all that behavior.

26:40

Publicist wrote an apology.

26:43

Yeah, I mean, listen, it's sometimes saying

26:45

I'm sorry it goes a long way, you know, sometimes

26:47

it can just erase a horrendous crime. But

26:50

yeah, people don't want to see their movie. They

26:52

don't want to see the Flash,

26:54

even though there's a Michael Keaton cameo where he plays

26:57

Batman, which I think is cool, like

26:59

the only cool thing these

27:01

DC movies have done. Actually, I

27:03

was just talking to somebody about how how

27:06

unbelievable the string

27:08

of failures the DC franchise.

27:11

DC superhero movies

27:13

have been, like just like an unmitigated

27:16

ongoing disaster, like every film

27:19

is in essence a bomb, Like I

27:21

think they keep making them. It's like

27:23

I would just give up, just wait,

27:25

I just waited out. But luckily all the Superheroes

27:28

does seems to be coming to a close and we returned

27:30

to great filmmaking. We're gonna return to an age

27:32

of daring

27:35

risk takers putting it all on the line

27:37

to create something new, some new

27:39

art. Daring, daring risk

27:42

takers like Wes Anderson, who

27:44

I just learned signed apparently signed the Roman

27:46

Plans key like support letter, and

27:48

like a ton of other people did too, like including David

27:50

Lynch and Michael Mann and all these you know.

27:52

There's there was like a I always think about

27:54

David Lynch.

27:55

It's so weird, it's so odd to me. I

27:57

would just do nothing. Personally, if it were

27:59

me, if somebody was like, do you want to sign the

28:02

Roman Polansky letter? Even if I was like,

28:04

I'm so pro Roman Plansky, knowing

28:06

what Roman Plansky did, I

28:09

would be like, you know what, I'm

28:11

I'm actually very busy. I don't have time to

28:13

do add my stag trick to that. But thank you, thank

28:15

you, you know, like you're not gonna get ostracized

28:18

for not signing the letter. You know, a

28:20

very strange Michael Mann signed it. Very

28:22

disappointing stuff, you know, you

28:25

know, really just kind

28:28

of confusing as

28:30

to why you'd put your signature on

28:32

that. I mean, if you knew

28:34

even a scoach, even a little bit of the details.

28:38

Yeah, like I don't know. I wouldn't sign it. Personally.

28:40

That's a strong stance, controversial.

28:44

Let me tell you something about me. A lot of people

28:46

wouldn't say this, A lot of people wouldn't

28:49

step up, but I will. I won't sign the Roman

28:51

Plansky letter. You know, I draw

28:53

a line in the sand. I'm

29:04

trying to think of what I would sign. I've probably accidentally

29:07

signed a few petitions like dumb ones, you know, Like

29:09

you know, remember there was like some the Rick and Morty

29:11

sauce at McDonald's and people that couldn't

29:14

get it, and people are having like flip out. They were flipping

29:16

out at at at

29:18

McDonald's.

29:19

I thought you were going to say one of the Man Show

29:21

petitions.

29:22

No, I don't even look at the

29:24

Man Show. You mean the thing with what's his name

29:26

that you.

29:27

Guys, Adam Carolla. They

29:29

had people signing against

29:31

women's suffrage. I remember

29:33

that was one of their bits.

29:35

I didn't watch that ship. I didn't watch that ship.

29:37

I was raised.

29:37

I was a young girl who

29:40

was being instilled with the

29:42

misogyny.

29:43

Misogyny and and the patriarchy,

29:46

you know, belief in the patriot I don't know, I

29:48

was My parents did a lot of things wrong,

29:51

but they did a few things right, apparently because

29:54

that ship was not interesting to me at all. But

29:56

uh yeah, Like I probably signed some petition

29:58

like like joking, like to bring back

30:01

the Rick and Morty, you know, Sechuan

30:03

Sauce or whatever it was it McDonald's

30:06

like stuff like that, speaking must speak of canceled

30:08

people who won't be led back in the country.

30:11

Wow, somebody's

30:13

like impeach Trump, Like sign the petition.

30:16

I'd be like, yeah, I mean, I don't think my Sayn's

30:18

is gonna do it. I don't care how many Satan issues

30:20

you get, it doesn't matter. Nobody cares. They're

30:23

not gonna They're not gonna do it a second time.

30:28

He's been impeached like twice. I don't even know.

30:30

Like it's crazy, it's wild.

30:33

I love I love that guy. Man. It's it's something

30:35

else, something to watch, something just

30:37

incredible to watch him exists, because it's

30:40

like you see all of

30:42

the failings of our of our reality. You

30:44

see all the failings of humanity just

30:46

just totally expressed within the

30:48

way Donald Trump lives his life.

30:51

It's like he's like, oh yeah, he

30:53

was like uh, he's done all these rapes,

30:55

and he's like lied and cheated, he's

30:57

had like he literally this

30:59

is a guy who literally as a business

31:02

practice, would put

31:04

a cee for colored next

31:06

to black families names were

31:08

trying to rent houses or apartments

31:10

from him because he didn't want to rent to

31:13

them, and he would have his people mark

31:15

that down to say, okay, don't rent to

31:17

these people. He was he was fucking

31:19

sued and then they settled,

31:22

right, Our system didn't find him like it

31:25

found him guilty, but like then there

31:27

was some kind of like settlement where he didn't have to

31:29

ever say he did it or

31:31

something, and that just got kind of brushed

31:33

under the rug, and nobody fucking cares. Like nobody cares

31:35

like you or I couldn't do something that racist

31:38

in our daily life and like continue

31:40

to exist in a normal way. But a guy

31:42

like that just keeps going and now it's like all

31:44

this stuff, like it's like, oh yeah, he's the secret documents.

31:47

Like no president history has ever acted

31:49

like this. It's so outrageous

31:52

and you just feel like nothing

31:54

will happen. It's like guns. It's

31:56

like guns in this country. Like you're

31:59

like, oh, more children were shot

32:01

at a school. Well that should do it, right,

32:03

Like, that'll do it. We're gonna band together and

32:06

make some changes here because

32:08

like obviously there's a problem,

32:12

and we're just like, nah,

32:14

what are you gonna do? What are you gonna

32:16

do?

32:16

I remember after Sandy Hook,

32:18

I thought, well, this is this is it.

32:20

It can't go any further than this.

32:23

Obama's up on stage crying. You're like,

32:25

oh wow, the President of the United States is like actually

32:27

crying on television like

32:29

I've never seen I'd never seen that before. I

32:32

don't think in my lifetime. Maybe

32:34

I maybe Bill Clinton cried. He seemed kind of like a

32:36

crier. Actually, yeah, it's an interesting

32:39

time to be alive at any rate. Well,

32:42

do you mean tell you I didn't even tell you about my travels. I

32:44

didn't even talk about my first off. I

32:46

was in can an incredible situation. Have you ever

32:48

been to Can beautiful place.

32:49

Oh. I looked at the pronunciation.

32:52

It's canon like

32:54

eat like an American once they can, and then

32:56

French it's yeah can with

32:58

a hard ket.

33:00

I think it's the same. Actually, I'm

33:02

not sure there's a difference, but I appreciate

33:04

the French trying to tweak

33:06

it a little bit, trying

33:08

to tweak it away from the English pronunciation

33:11

at any rate. So you know, I was there for a

33:13

conference, which is

33:16

the worst reason to go to Can, in

33:18

my opinion. There's a big media and

33:20

advertising conference there called can

33:23

Lyons or leon. I

33:25

guess I don't know how they would say it. I

33:28

was there only for about three days, three

33:31

and a half something like that, and I probably

33:33

spent about an entire day in travel,

33:35

all told on one end and the other, like

33:37

like a day and a half a day each way,

33:40

the solidly twelve hours, if not more so.

33:43

Think about being the most beautiful place in the world, with the

33:45

greatest sort of amenities and luxuries you could imagine.

33:48

But what you're doing instead of enjoying

33:50

it is meeting ad

33:52

executives that you could meet with who are

33:54

from New York and live in New York, but

33:57

are there, and so you know, that part was

33:59

not fun. But there was a lot of other stuff that was fun and

34:01

at least an interesting experience. But my

34:03

travel was insane because I

34:06

flew connections. So I first I flew

34:08

from from New York to Frankfurt,

34:10

Germany, where I bought a

34:12

German shepherd beanie baby

34:15

for Zelda in Germany,

34:17

which I thought was cool some

34:19

reasons. That's her favorite dog, and I don't have the heart to

34:21

tell her that that's the Nazi dog. You know, it's

34:24

like literally the Nazi dog. You know, there'll be

34:26

a time in a place when I can tell

34:28

her the truth. But she really likes

34:30

German Shepherds. I think it's because she's

34:33

kind of a narc and a cop, Like, I mean, she loves

34:35

rules and she also like you know, kids

34:38

are early on or like basically,

34:40

you know, they think the police are pretty cool. I

34:42

understand why, like, because the police

34:45

are presented as being really a great thing,

34:47

you know, like, oh no, they protect us and

34:49

they help us, and they you know though, if you're

34:51

lost, they'll tell you where to go. And like admittedly

34:53

there are some uses, right like to the

34:55

police. I'm not saying they're like again,

34:57

I don't want to get into a thing, I mean a

35:00

B like yeah, I'm all, you know, let's get let's

35:02

get rid of them. But I can

35:04

understand how child would be like, that's a cool idea.

35:07

So she loves like she likes like rules

35:10

and stuff, and maybe the German shepherd

35:12

things like because it's a cop dog. I don't really know.

35:14

They're incredibly smart. By the way, my

35:16

dog is part German Shepherd.

35:18

So I take offense this okay, interesting.

35:20

I would imagine there are a lot of Jews that would

35:22

not own a German Shepherd, right, just.

35:24

Like Jews won't have a Mercedes.

35:26

Sure, that's what I'm saying.

35:28

Ridiculous.

35:28

Our generation probably not, but like the previous

35:31

generations definitely had. I get it.

35:33

I mean it's like, you know, at any

35:36

rate, I had a five hour,

35:38

five hour layover in Frankfurt Frankfort,

35:41

and uh, I don't even know what I did. I was in a fugue

35:44

state. I took a Xanax on the plane. As

35:46

we took off from a JFK, I had a couple

35:48

of drinks, and for the first time ever

35:50

in my life ever,

35:53

I fell asleep. And then I

35:56

woke up and they're like, we're landing in an hour

35:58

and a half. And it was like, that's

36:00

never happened to me on a plane

36:03

ever. It was amazing, Like, I

36:05

see now how other people can travel

36:07

and what a fucking dream. Anyhow,

36:10

so a lot of travel, you know, did a lot of duty free

36:12

shopping in the five during the five hour layover.

36:15

Yeah, and then and then I was there for like three three

36:17

days. On the fourth day I went

36:19

to the airport. Then I flew to Zurich.

36:21

And what's amazing about the Zerk airport, and frankly

36:24

about any airport, is first

36:26

off, it's like nine in the morning when I get

36:28

there. Now, the Zurich airport, because it's

36:30

in Switzerland, there are watch

36:34

stores there, the greatest

36:36

watch brands in the world, like Rolex and Omega

36:39

or is the British call it Omiga, which is

36:41

a crime and they should be put in prison

36:44

for it, and so all these like incredible

36:46

schwat they're open at nine in the morning,

36:48

right, They're like, oh, if I want to buy like a twenty five

36:50

thousand dollars Rolex at nine am, that's

36:53

a done deal. But there's a swat of course, there's

36:55

a Swatch store, and the

36:57

Swatch store had I don't know if you guys

36:59

know about this thing called a moon Swatch. Do you know the

37:01

Moon's watches? No,

37:04

nobody knows what a Moon's watches? Right,

37:06

So Swatch the biggest thing,

37:08

the biggest story in watches of the past,

37:11

like I don't know, twenty fucking years or

37:13

maybe like since the Apple since

37:16

the introduction of the Apple Watch, the

37:18

biggest story in watches has been this thing called

37:20

the moon Swatch, which is a collaboration

37:23

between Swatch, the

37:25

affordable watchmaker, and Omega

37:29

and they what they did was Swatch made like a

37:31

plastic version of this very

37:33

famous and relatively expensive Omega

37:36

watch called a Moon's referred to as a

37:38

Moonwatch. A version of it was taken by the astronauts.

37:41

A Speedmaster is the family name

37:43

of it. And this one's called the Moonwatch. It was taken by

37:45

like some of the astronauts on

37:47

like many emissions, like the Apollo missions and

37:49

stuff. And there was actually a really cool one

37:51

that has like Snoopy on it, because like a Snoop there's

37:54

like a Snoopy astronaut character that was used

37:56

for some like NASA stuff and anyway, at any

37:58

rate, it's a cool It's a fucking cool, real

38:00

like expensive watch. And then Swatch

38:02

made a version of it based on every planet in our

38:04

solar system and the Sun and moon. That

38:07

is, like they're different color ways and it looks it

38:10

is exactly in terms of its size,

38:12

shape, functionality, is identical to

38:15

obviously different internals, identical

38:18

to the Omega Watch, but

38:20

it is made out of like plastic, like Swatch makes

38:22

all their watches out of or some

38:24

kind of like bio material or whatever,

38:27

and they're all in these really crazy colorways.

38:29

There's like a pink one, there's like a green one, there's a yellow

38:32

one. They're all for like the different planets and stuff. At

38:34

any rate, you can't buy them. People were like there were

38:36

literally like riots outside of Swatch stores because

38:38

they made them available in like this limited edition

38:40

fashion and like you had to physically

38:42

go to a store to get one, and there was no other way to get

38:44

one. So like people sell them like for

38:47

way more than they're worth on eBay

38:49

and you can buy them on different watch sites at

38:51

any rate. I kind of, you know, vaguely,

38:53

was like, oh, like if I could get one, I would

38:56

maybe get one, just because it's so novel. And

38:59

you know, I'm fucking looking through the Zurich airport at

39:01

nine in the morning and they just have them there. They're

39:03

just sitting out. I'm like, you don't actually have these

39:05

for sale, right, And the guy's like, yeah, I have all but two.

39:08

You know.

39:08

It's like kind of an amazing strange

39:11

you know whatever, it's fucking who cares? Is

39:13

capitalism work? You know? I don't need one, certainly,

39:16

I have plenty of watches. It

39:18

was just an interesting way to like start

39:20

that trip, you know. So I had a

39:23

bunch of gifts that I brought back for Zelda and Laura,

39:25

and I bought myself a moon a

39:27

moon swatch, because because

39:30

why not, Because if you can't get them anywhere else,

39:32

I might as well pick one up. You know. It's interesting

39:34

though, I haven't taken that out of the box yet

39:37

because I don't wear a regular watch

39:39

because I have an Apple Watch, and

39:42

that may change in the future. That's a story

39:44

for another podcast. I think that's a story for another

39:47

day. But uh oh,

39:49

I was gonna say, I didn't say this. It's

39:52

the last thing I'll say. And maybe I've talked about it before.

39:54

But I think airports are so fucking

39:57

cool and interesting because I

39:59

definitely have talked about this before.

40:01

You know, there's this theory, this thing I

40:03

believe, which was created by a writer named

40:05

Hakeembe called the temporary autonomous

40:07

zone. The concept is like a place

40:10

that for a period of

40:12

time or in a specific location, is

40:15

like a community that forms

40:17

with its own rules, its own laws, its

40:19

own kind of like way of existing, and then it can

40:22

like dissipate. And I think like airports are

40:24

like a great example of a temporary autonomous

40:26

zone, which is that, in my opinion, like kind of an

40:28

otherworldly like if you think

40:30

about what it is, it's a very otherworldly idea.

40:33

Like in an airport. An airport has

40:35

its own rules, its own laws. The

40:37

people there, none of them are really besides

40:39

people that work there. All the people moving through it are

40:41

not really supposed to be there. They're going

40:43

somewhere else. And like

40:45

there are things that are in a

40:48

temporal sense, are not normal,

40:50

like a Rolex store I typically isn't open

40:52

at nine in the morning. I'm like, oh, I'm carrying

40:54

these bags. I'm taking a plane to New York. But

40:56

also like if I just want to stop and get buy a rolex

40:59

like that can have happen, or like a huge bottle

41:01

of alcohol. The it's all these like weird things that happen

41:03

there, you know, and then there's a totally different set of rules

41:05

about like what you can do, like where

41:07

you can be Like to see someone sleeping

41:10

on the floor. Normally you'd be

41:12

like, oh my god, like this is what's happened to this person,

41:14

or like oh, they're you know, they're homeless. But you

41:16

know, in an airport, people are just waiting. It's

41:19

just interesting and there's all these weird like things

41:21

in airports that would never exist anywhere else. Like

41:23

in Frankfurt there was like an indoor play

41:26

area for children that was like a miniature

41:29

Luftanza plane with like a it had like an

41:31

emergency slide, but it was like a slide for children.

41:35

There's just you know, there's in the middle of an indoor

41:37

space just sliding down this tiny liftans

41:39

of emergency you know, exit or whatever.

41:42

It's just it's a strange thing,

41:44

strange place. It's kind of fun though in

41:46

a way. I mean, I might be am I the only person who

41:48

likes airports. Maybe I can't be the only person. But

41:51

I don't like traveling. I hate

41:53

traveling. I like airports,

41:56

weird food, lots of different food choices. It's

41:59

like a it's like a mall, but like where there's

42:01

way more danger of like you being arrested

42:03

for something, like way higher levels

42:06

of fear about being

42:08

detained in a strange room.

42:11

Yeah, Disneyland

42:14

with the death penalty. As William Gibson famously

42:16

wrote for one of the early issues

42:18

of Wired about Singapore,

42:21

did a big did a big expos

42:23

about Singapore and how it

42:25

was like this like dream land of a place

42:27

where that you know, you would be executed

42:30

for a spitting gum on the sidewalk or whatever. I

42:33

don't know if they still do that, but big,

42:35

good topic for a show. Well,

42:42

that is our show for this week, if

42:44

you can believe it. It's all come to a

42:47

close. The journey that we've been

42:49

taking together is

42:51

ending, and yet a new journey

42:53

begins next week because we're gonna have another show,

42:55

which I think is great. I think I'm excited

42:58

about it, and I'm feeling refreshed and

43:00

rejuvenated after my travels,

43:02

and frankly, after this conversation,

43:06

I want to thank the listener for allowing me to

43:08

bear my soul and

43:11

share my thoughts. I

43:13

really do deeply appreciate that you've

43:15

spent this time with me. Man,

43:18

this is a real finality to this sign office

43:20

seems pretty dark, pretty heavy shit, but

43:22

it's not really. I'm just tired, just tired from

43:24

traveling. Anyhow.

43:27

We'll be back next week with more what future, and

43:30

as always, I wish you and your family the very

43:32

best.