Peterborough, Ontario-based Karol Orzechowski has been making music and touring as garbageface for many years. He joins me to discuss his beginnings as a singer-songwriter and what turned him to louder and more confrontational music; Rage Against the Machine, Fugazi, and other case studies in the struggle between artistic practice, career ambition and personal ethics; and his own tastes - culminating in a major What Is This Music?! breakthrough in which he celebrates not one, but two of music's most widely derided genres.

Check out this playlist of music we discussed on the episode, plus a few personal garbageface faves.

Hear garbageface's music on Bandcamp.