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Photograph appeared on Image in

1:08

West Nights twitter feed on

1:11

Sunday. At first it

1:13

seemed kind of anodyne. A

1:15

casual seeming shot of the Princess

1:17

of Wales, Kate Middleton surrounded by

1:19

your kids. Posted. For

1:21

British Mother's Day. Can. You

1:23

like pull up the photo. And. We can

1:26

talk about what it looks like. The

1:28

S: Let's get this photo op

1:30

This photo put out on the

1:32

rails official Instagram was meant to

1:35

be reassuring and it almost was

1:37

almost okay. I heard as German

1:39

to describe it. it's que photo

1:41

looks like a family photo. Kate

1:44

Middleton, her three kids. Yeah, it's

1:46

like it at first glance at

1:48

me it's pretty innocuous. It's I

1:50

green leaves in the background know

1:53

smiling and open mouth smiles like

1:55

like you caught us made last

1:57

yeah. Exactly someone's told.

2:00

The job by the camera were all

2:02

laughing about it but within hours. so

2:04

joke. Would. Be

2:06

on Kensington Palace. You.

2:08

See: the internet has been waiting. For

2:11

this picture. Weren't. Any pics or.

2:14

That's because Kate Middleton has spent twenty.

2:16

Twenty Four out of the public

2:18

eye, first for an abdominal surgery,

2:20

then in recovery. That

2:23

was just enough information to fuel

2:25

all kinds of theories about where

2:27

she really is. In a

2:29

coma, divorcing her husband. Getting.

2:32

A Brazilian but list. The

2:34

palaces denied the coma and ignored the rest.

2:37

This photo should have helped them reclaim

2:39

the narrative. Except people

2:42

immediately said. It. Was

2:44

edited. Image. And did not

2:46

want to believe them. But. Then she

2:48

called some photographer friends. They lifted the

2:50

photo to. And. His professional said

2:52

oh yeah, someone messed with a structure.

2:55

While. As you look really close at

2:58

it, there's a pot just below had

3:00

said like under the neck of her

3:02

sweater whereas it. As is

3:04

it that sort of disappears and then

3:06

you can actually see a straight line

3:08

where it looks like. Basically.

3:11

You can follow that path, face all

3:13

the way around and find wait elements

3:15

that suggests I had been transplanted into

3:17

that image from. Somewhere else. Whoa.

3:20

Rights and then. Various.

3:24

Social agencies issue to kill notice about

3:26

the photograph saying that. Nobody.

3:28

Should run it with as it appeared to be manipulated.

3:31

Yeah, I've never heard. About a kill

3:33

order for photographs before. Personally,

3:35

I'd never seen one that. From.

3:38

Reading about it, it seems like a

3:40

just just a touch up job on

3:42

a photograph wouldn't be enough. It has

3:44

to be misleadingly altered. I

3:46

mean, killing this photo is essentially

3:49

acknowledging the monarchy is done

3:51

something untrustworthy. Exactly yeah,

3:53

which is huge and then sections

3:56

is a British press. That and

3:58

normally. Just

4:00

turn out, whatever the party line is from

4:02

the Palace of really turned against William and

4:05

Kate and they also offer this. You know?

4:08

I mean, this photo was meant to

4:10

reassert their British people. And

4:12

seems like it's kind of me officers

4:14

were lots in the all for about

4:17

his whatever has happened here with Kate

4:19

and William. It's quite likely not to

4:21

be funny. Ultimately, whatever it is if

4:24

it's a divorce or she's very well,

4:26

but that is there is something funny

4:28

about. Like what they really wanted to

4:30

do was to make people be quiet

4:33

about how they've done the one perfectly

4:35

calibrated saying to make people go insane.

4:41

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Beginning S. I

6:56

wouldn't. I want to introduce Kate

6:59

Middleton and who she is in

7:01

relation to the British public and

7:03

the media. Because. I think

7:05

that's really important context everything that's happened

7:07

over the last few days. So can

7:09

you do that? Like who is she?

7:11

Within the royal family and. traditionally.

7:15

How is she interacted with

7:17

photographers and the British public?

7:21

So yeah, Kate Middleton is

7:23

T Y solves the future.

7:27

King. William. So

7:29

the current King charles a sudden you say

7:31

that exists for your you to sound like

7:34

would you say that the like I know

7:36

this is a better than him to save

7:38

as oh it is like. It's

7:41

another country that this is apparently how

7:43

we decided it works as an see

7:45

and will he have met at university

7:47

and then they got married and from

7:49

the beginning when even when they were

7:52

dating. And she sort of knew how

7:54

to interact with photographers and the media

7:56

riot. She's the she's very. Polished.

8:00

media friendly, like you've never really seen

8:02

like a crack in her armor. She's

8:04

very, very put together and to all

8:06

intents and purposes seems happy

8:08

to be a member of the Royal Family and

8:11

happy to toe the party line on certain things

8:13

like very unlike for instance, Megan

8:15

Markle, who as everybody knows, decided that

8:17

she didn't want to be a part

8:19

of this whole weird thing anymore, quite

8:21

legitimately, I think. But

8:24

Kate took the opposite stance, I think, and has

8:26

always been very like, well-dressed,

8:28

well-mannered, smiley, posing for the pictures,

8:30

doing all the things she's supposed to be doing. Hours

8:33

after giving birth to each of her three kids,

8:35

she was like on the steps of the hospital,

8:37

offering them up to photographers. Well, quite

8:39

so like that is a really extreme

8:42

example of she sees that it is her duty

8:44

to be a public person.

8:47

And it's interesting when Kate and William got

8:49

married, it used to be that Mario Tostino,

8:51

the photographer, very famous photographer, would do a

8:54

lot of the royal portraiture of William. And

8:57

she wants to move in a different direction from

8:59

that she wanted to have much

9:01

more down to earth photography. There's a Vogue

9:03

cover that she did. She's

9:06

not wearing any like couture garments, she's not wearing

9:08

any jewels, she's just wearing like a plaid shirt

9:11

and jeans, and she looks normal.

9:13

And that's apparently very much been her

9:16

mode that she wants to achieve with

9:18

her like public facing stuff. And

9:22

William's wife is that they're like normal people. Her

9:25

thing has been visible and

9:27

attainable, which

9:29

is partly why everybody's found it so odd that she has

9:32

decided to be so private about this

9:35

medical thing, whatever it is, which is

9:37

totally legit, she should obviously feel that

9:39

she can do that. But because

9:41

of how public her life normally

9:44

is, inevitably that vacuum of information

9:46

left room for people to speculate.

9:49

The speculation started in earnest back

9:51

in January. That's when Kensington

9:53

Palace released a statement that said Kate Was

9:56

going in for, quote, routine abdominal

9:58

surgery. Clan public

10:00

events would be cancelled, they added Muggy

10:03

will be back in business by Easter.

10:05

Simple. My. Immediately.

10:08

The skepticism began. Fueling.

10:11

The suspicion was as I did the very

10:13

same day the palace admitted he was in

10:15

the hospital. The also announced the

10:17

King Charles had gone in for treatment of

10:19

an enlarged. Prostate eventually came out

10:21

the doctors it's on cancer. So.

10:24

we knew at the king was dealing with

10:26

but not the princess. Online.

10:29

Questions lingered. And. Good

10:31

surgery was planned. Why? we're so

10:33

many events abruptly. Paul Dos. If.

10:36

Her surgery was routine. Why was she

10:38

in the hospital for two weeks? The.

10:41

Sensible. Logical. Explanation.

10:43

For that is it will ever happened. Whatever

10:46

the surgery was didn't go very well, All

10:48

has been more complex than they thought it

10:50

was going to be and therefore. She's.

10:53

Being out of action even longer than they

10:55

thought that she would be the hence the

10:57

cancellation of things. But it is. It's it's.

10:59

It's the whole thing is very odd that I

11:01

find exhaust facing because I don't have a little

11:04

myself care about the walls and I'd find them

11:06

annoying and I think we shouldn't have a want

11:08

to keep. this is really compelling. Like what. What

11:11

is going on? Why is everything so

11:13

strange? Would. Eating it's isn't

11:15

some people. Were. Skeptical.

11:19

Of what? The palace? The same? Back.

11:21

In January. I. Think

11:23

there is a certain. Does.

11:25

A lot of people in

11:27

the Uk his seal entitled

11:29

to knowing everything about the

11:32

royal family and I st.

11:35

Charles. When he came to power

11:37

has he has been like really open

11:39

about things that the queen would never

11:41

have been open about France inside. The

11:43

thing about his prostate exam. And

11:46

having picked up can't said by on

11:48

the going up procedure. That's something we

11:50

would never have house in the Queen.

11:52

So right from the moment that this

11:54

is announces planned abdominal surgery there were

11:56

people speculating about what that was because

11:58

it in it. The anything that's

12:01

not particularly detailed and people feel

12:03

entitled to more detail than that.

12:05

So already there was a certain.

12:07

Sectors. Society that was. Interested.

12:10

In the period details as of what this

12:12

might be right back in January. So.

12:15

From the jump people had their questions.

12:18

Then we get this drip

12:20

drip drip of incidents. In.

12:22

Early March Two gets photographed with their

12:24

mother. And the palace tells the

12:26

tabloids. To squash it. Again,

12:29

yes ot at a moment when.

12:32

And initiates a princess would have been

12:34

very useful to dump down unpleasant speculation

12:36

that a when it out there. In.

12:39

Late February Prince William abruptly pulls

12:41

out of a memorial for his

12:43

godfather. That. Again had people's antennas

12:45

up as like or the something something odd is

12:47

happening here. something out of the. Out

12:50

of the ordinary. And. Then last week

12:52

tabloid article started popping up

12:54

about Sarah. Rose Him Murray.

12:57

Also known as. The.

12:59

Marked the much to Nasa calmly. I think

13:01

is how you pronounce that word which is

13:03

crazy given how many letters or it is.

13:06

Anne. Marie is no stranger to the

13:08

Uk tabloids. She is rumored to be

13:10

Prince William's. Mistress Some are calling

13:12

her sudden presence in the papers

13:15

the kind of soft. Launch Image

13:17

and says in general speculation about

13:19

what's going on at Kensington Palace

13:22

Is that a fever pitch? I

13:24

think it's more just evidence is how. Seriously.

13:28

Him. Bogle. A lot of people

13:31

are by this that they're driving up

13:33

everything to do that, the royal family

13:35

and investigating you know, like old pictures

13:37

of them. And who is this woman

13:39

and what would those rumors and how

13:41

could they possibly relate to this? Like

13:43

people are desperate for an explanation which

13:45

is exactly why they needed. To.

13:47

Just issue something like. I

13:49

do know a happy Mother's Day video of

13:51

her with her kids, even if she looks

13:54

a little pinkie pie surgery. It's just it's

13:56

such an odd choice that they've done this.

13:58

And. Instead of a video. Doctor

14:02

photo from this weekend. The.

14:04

Photograph the caption underneath.

14:07

Claim. That it had been taken by. Prince.

14:10

William but then after a

14:12

P and. Voices. And

14:14

all these people polled this

14:16

photograph the following morning. The.

14:19

Assists show channel from the Prince and

14:22

Princess of Wales as she's a thing

14:24

Saints And like lots of amateur photographers

14:26

I kate occasionally experiment with editing

14:28

and and it like apologize for the

14:31

confusion around them around the pitcher ribbit

14:33

like this is not an Instagram filter

14:35

does The other thing that my

14:37

photographer friend said is like these are

14:40

classic Photoshop errors like that the tools

14:42

that you use in photoshop would create

14:44

the exactly this kind of our

14:46

as if you want using it very

14:49

well. It's not for me. You could

14:51

do a new phone and then it's like okay

14:53

that he was saying that William took the photos

14:55

that was Kate. Editing: It like

14:57

what's going on here. Here's.

14:59

Another Krishna heard about. The foot of the came

15:01

out this weekend. Doesn't. A

15:03

royal family manipulate. All. Their images

15:06

like any public figure. Oh yeah,

15:08

I if we look back at

15:10

images for the last year's. At

15:13

like I kind of wonder if. We'd find a couple

15:15

photo shop bears. Like this the in

15:17

there, Are just naturally computers

15:19

find them in their butts. Is this

15:22

how goes? And that was my first

15:24

reaction when I saw people on picking

15:26

the such as I thought well to

15:28

incidentally sheath it all of their pictures

15:30

of retouched and brightened up at all

15:33

this stuff because it's a highly choreographed

15:35

like public relations machine am. So.

15:37

Says it said. the Associated Press have

15:40

decided that it does. Saw.

15:42

Enough that that needed to retract

15:44

it. A significant

15:46

and there's also people who

15:49

managed to. E. Bay

15:51

City. Took. The vote cover

15:53

that she did number of years ago i

15:55

managed to show that that was likely is

15:57

a head had been inserted of as it.

16:00

Like you that one because the face

16:02

and but images is literally identical. Yeah.

16:04

I mean this is controversial, some people very much

16:06

to screw about. but yes there are people a

16:08

minor and looking at that Vogue cover and say.

16:10

Yes, it looks similar, dies if

16:12

a year as and saying it's

16:14

the same. In. The

16:16

hours after this botched photo

16:18

release. The. Palace seemed to release

16:21

another photo and I see the Palace

16:23

because it showed up in the British

16:25

tabloid, so it's hard to know it's

16:27

origin, but those those photos don't happen

16:29

without the Palaces permission generally. Yes,

16:32

this is a photo of William and Kate

16:34

in a car. Together It is shadowy. And

16:36

Grainy and Williams going to an event

16:38

where Key did not go. She was

16:41

I guess being dropped. Off at a

16:43

different place along the way. Be.

16:45

Really only see her ear sort of in

16:47

the back and you don't see her face

16:50

it so streams. It's. Really, really

16:52

odd. It's just. If.

16:54

They were trying deliberately to the mysterious this

16:56

is what if it's the issue sit at

16:58

reassure anyone to see like okay where she

17:00

is. From what I can see

17:03

online know bike. I think people are now

17:05

in the mood to think that something really

17:07

fish is going on and app store and

17:09

else I think to put paid to. That

17:12

could have a ceiling. Do.

17:15

Does this quote from Queen Elizabeth? That

17:18

I think is so interesting. She said

17:20

the monarchy must be. Seen to be

17:23

believed. And. Have been

17:25

thinking about it in the

17:27

context of this photograph, but

17:29

then also the monarchy. More.

17:31

Generally over the last few

17:33

months because. There are

17:36

a bunch of royals were out of

17:38

commission. You have Kate.

17:40

Obviously you have. Prince William

17:42

has been canceling some a

17:45

social engagements. These seem King

17:47

Charles with cancer. Harry

17:50

Megan obviously has. Stepped away from

17:52

their duties, So what does

17:54

it say? that? And twenty twenty four,

17:56

the monarchies, Kind of

17:58

invisible. Yeah,

18:00

it's. It's very

18:03

interesting and I think the

18:05

fact that all this. Noise

18:08

and conspiracy thinking has emerged out of

18:10

her absence is evidence of the fact

18:12

of the thought that the Queen. Was.

18:15

Right when she said that like they

18:17

have to be everywhere they have to

18:19

be seem to be smiling and personable

18:21

and happy in order to appease people

18:23

and not make them think too hard

18:26

about the royal family is and we're

18:28

actually doing for us. I get has

18:30

to be pitch perfect or was it

18:32

leaves too much room. Soccer season. Student.

18:35

Was a world in which after

18:38

this experience. The. Royal family

18:40

just shuts off the spigot of

18:42

information. In some way like okay, like

18:44

no more. And.

18:47

Really limiting what we're putting on

18:49

Instagram. What we're telling you. Those.

18:51

Sorts of things like is it possible to do

18:53

that? I think they com. I think

18:55

they can't take that away because ultimately they

18:58

need to be. Loved. Because

19:00

otherwise what you know they have

19:02

to they can't control the can't

19:05

maintain power. Without.

19:07

Sharing. Something of themselves. Certainly no anymore

19:10

know in the In and twenty twenty four.

19:15

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19:17

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19:19

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19:21

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Whatever is happening here, Is

20:52

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20:54

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20:58

Kate. Middleton is dealing with a health

21:00

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21:02

or whether it's something. Personally none of

21:04

it is. Good. And

21:08

arguably. Whatever. It is

21:10

his private. Doesn't.

21:12

Make any sense to same the

21:14

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21:16

Diana, but then also demand some

21:18

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21:20

happening with Kate Middleton. Yeah.

21:23

It's a difficult thing, isn't it? Because I

21:25

totally this is it. I completely think that

21:28

she should have privacy. That's what I was

21:30

going on. So. Then why

21:32

do this sorta? Like now

21:34

it's just a cup and I have been said

21:36

about me to stop myself because it's like now

21:39

it's and com the subtle mystery and people love

21:41

a little. Mystery. Is

21:43

if she was gonna be out about the guys

21:45

had been out the public eye. But.

21:48

Releasing this photo. Has

21:50

created an inroad for people to. Start.

21:53

Handing her again. It's worth pointing

21:55

out that despite the drama, T.

21:57

Middleton is done. Exactly.

22:00

Would the Palace said she went

22:02

tail in the initial statement about

22:04

her surgery she's at a couple

22:06

weeks in the hospital. She.

22:08

Went home, she cancelled events and

22:10

we're supposed to see around eastern

22:12

East. Or hasn't happened yet? I

22:15

mean. Is. There any argument

22:17

that. The.

22:19

Palace has been honest and

22:22

transparent here. I

22:24

think the problem is. It

22:27

was. it was all sign up until this

22:29

photo by the it was consistent with what

22:31

they said was gonna be happening and that's

22:34

why didn't any of attention any sense into

22:36

the conspiracy states. And kinda

22:38

scared to death because yeah they said

22:40

she wasn't really around three. So fun

22:42

to be around to Easter. and yes

22:44

maybe she's had a longer same hospital

22:46

those has pitted to test us. You

22:48

know her business knows but this so

22:50

too is so. I

22:53

don't know, I see like the

22:56

easiest explanation still is it. They

22:58

just made a huge mess of

23:00

this and touched it up in

23:02

cack handed kind of ways and

23:04

she's fine. I don't

23:06

think she did it herself, that seems

23:08

really. and other a bit

23:10

too far the stretch the imagination but

23:12

it's probably just. I

23:15

didn't know that she wasn't looking at great and they

23:17

need to do photos but. It's

23:19

so it's really interesting how this has

23:21

led to like a complete change in

23:23

tone and how the media talk about

23:26

William and Kate and that now that

23:28

that said not considered trustworthy because of

23:30

this one image is fascinating. B.

23:33

M. I. Mean I see him

23:35

speculation that was happened your. It

23:38

isn't just about the royal family

23:40

themselves and how they manage their

23:42

media presence, it's about the British.

23:44

Peace. Because.

23:47

The royal family. Has. A

23:49

trust issue. With the British people. But

23:51

now so does. The median. In.

23:54

The Uk because they've been become

23:56

so entwined for so long. The

23:58

British press. This is basically

24:00

then. Managed. By

24:02

the Royals. I.

24:05

Wonder I wonder how much. Of. What's happened

24:07

over the. Last. Week or so. You.

24:09

Will lay at the seat of the

24:12

royal family and how much you would.

24:14

Play. The seat of the journalists to. Be

24:17

sickly. Cover the Royal. Family As if

24:19

they're pandas. You know, like this.

24:21

they're just sort of like amazing.

24:24

Animals. As opposed to.

24:27

A very wealthy family that supported in part

24:30

by the British state. Yeah.

24:32

It's interesting I haven't seen. To.

24:35

Sunlight, leading stuff online and people

24:37

talking. Haven't seen much

24:39

of a backlash yet against the British press,

24:41

the kind of swallowing the royal family line

24:44

all of time, but I wonder if a

24:46

the dots coming like it depends. It

24:49

depends what happens when she reappears I

24:51

guess, and how people cover her. But.

24:54

That. Something. Strange.

24:56

And new is happening with.

24:59

Places. Like The Daily Mail who

25:01

historically total like roy worship people.

25:04

Publishing. As a thing about this photograph and

25:06

sable various ways in which is misleading and you

25:08

know why would they tells the truth that kind

25:11

of thing. Is another kind

25:13

of coverage use seen from them about?

25:15

No, not not at all. they would

25:17

cover Harry Meghan like that they would

25:19

never cared. Cover. King. William.

25:22

Sort. Of I mean that the press is

25:24

sort of sticky. Miss Turn? don't know, You

25:26

know. I think it's. It's too

25:28

early to say it's. It's. Gonna

25:30

be very interesting because it's their new line

25:32

is you know how dare they lied to

25:35

us. Then. The

25:37

question is, why haven't they been lying

25:39

to overtime like and therefore haven't even

25:42

read getting those lies to a. Surrogate.

25:46

Is said she's not like lead.

25:48

To resume public duties until Easter. Even

25:52

if she does appear in public then. Like.

25:55

What is it gonna cheat to

25:57

end to the speculation about what's.

26:00

Yeah. I really

26:02

don't know that as I think it's not

26:04

just. Speculation. Now

26:06

about whatever this medical thing was,

26:09

Like. If she is, she reappears.

26:12

Post. Surgery looking fine, whatever that not gonna

26:14

put to bed. Any. Of the

26:16

now rampant like divorce rumors. So

26:20

I don't know. I mean this is this

26:22

is a pretty. I don't know how they

26:24

come back from this really at which seems

26:26

it's sad. it's just one is one photograph

26:28

and a pretty innocuous litter one at first

26:31

glance and yet I think it is in

26:33

his hand them for a while. And

26:37

wasn't thank you so much for from I'm So Tony

26:39

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26:41

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