Lauren and Shannon's conversation with Jeffrey Epstein survivor, Jess Michaels. On this episode the ladies talk about the impacts of being raped at a crucial developmental age, the neurobiology of trauma, the unique paths Jess took in order to heal and a whole lot more. Jess also shares her innovative sexual assault first aid company, 3Joannes, she founded. Cheers!

(0:00) Introduction

(3:14) Jess’s story

(7:10) Perception of rape laws change response to SA

(9:16) SA turned her into a mouse of a woman 

(10:34) Learning others were raped by Epstein too

(11:05) Freeze trauma response explained 

(13:09) Why Epstein hired her 

(14:09) Trauma responses are automatic

(17:06) Stress hormones extreme impact on body 

(20:14) Creating safety and our nervous system 

(21:55) Brain and body impacts of being raped at 22 

(32:53) How Jess healed and neurobiology of trauma 

(37:31) Adrenal fatigue syndrome 

(46:10) Sharing my story isn’t the brave part 

(50:19) Gaslighting ourselves 

(52:10) Look at SA as an injury  

(54:22) 3Joannes Jess’s business, sexual assault first aid 

(1:05:57) Using brain scans in court as evidence 

(1:11:19) If we had SA first aid plan before it happened 

(1:13:16) Trauma informed therapists

(1:15:08) 3Joannes Soft Launch & Callisto- perpetrator matching system 

Jess Michaels:

https://www.jessmichaelsspeaks.com/

https://www.instagram.com/jessmichaelsspeaks/

TEDx Talk: https://youtu.be/bJtjJiWAra8?=si=giTSp4IVvnbg0Yhg

Callisto: https://www.projectcallisto.org/

End Rape On Campus Mapping Tool: https://endrapeoncampus.org/map-and-tool/

Perversion of Justice Book: https://a.co/d/bDtBeCD

Get Educated: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/victims-sexual-violence

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