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On Getting Attention, Encoding Messages, and Diving into the Deep End

On Getting Attention, Encoding Messages, and Diving into the Deep End

Released Thursday, 20th November 2025
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On Getting Attention, Encoding Messages, and Diving into the Deep End

On Getting Attention, Encoding Messages, and Diving into the Deep End

On Getting Attention, Encoding Messages, and Diving into the Deep End

On Getting Attention, Encoding Messages, and Diving into the Deep End

Thursday, 20th November 2025
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How do you get people to care about what you care about?

It's a marketing question. A movement-building question. A question at the heart of the attention economy. And in one form or another, it's the question I've probably received more than any other over the last 15+ years. After all, there is no silver-bullet social media plan, no door-knocking strategy, no magical meeting agenda that produces results if the message at its heart doesn’t resonate with those receiving it.

This episode is in four chapters. In the first chapter, I assure you that getting attention is actually (relatively) easy—even if few of us are willing to do what it takes. In the second chapter, I explain why paying attention is really difficult, with the help of my favorite French philosopher. In the third chapter, I've got a story about getting my teenage daughter to watch a movie explaining esoteric financial products. And in the final chapter, I'll share a little idea I've been referring to as the Swimming Pool Theory of Communication.

If you care about getting others to care about what you care about (and I know you do), this one is for you.

Footnotes:



  • (00:00) - Introduction
  • (03:02) - 1. Attention is Easy
  • (07:38) - 2. Attention is Really Hard
  • (15:33) - 3. The Big Short
  • (24:17) - 4. The Swimming Pool Theory of Communication

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