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but just a little bit of housekeeping

1:01

before we get into the episode proper.

1:03

So we recorded this two-parter Q&A literally

1:05

about 12 hours before Scott's

1:07

wife went into labor. So as a

1:10

result, the introduction is a little bit

1:12

messy. I don't even think we introduced

1:14

the show by name. And I just

1:16

kind of wanted to say here exactly

1:18

what you're getting into. So this is

1:20

an off-topic Q&A that is entirely based

1:22

around your questions that you sent in.

1:25

And we are so grateful for

1:27

the response we got. It was truly

1:29

incredible and overwhelming in the best possible

1:31

way. Thank you so much. Essentially, this

1:33

week's episode and next week's are going

1:35

to be a little bit of a

1:38

special one-off celebration or I guess two-off

1:40

celebration, as they were the last podcasts

1:42

that Scott recorded before going away on

1:44

paternity leave. We had a lot of

1:46

fun recording both of them. And hopefully

1:48

you all enjoy it as much as

1:51

we did. Again, thank you so much.

1:53

This literally wouldn't have been possible without

1:55

you all getting in touch. And we'll

1:57

see you next week for part two. Anyway.

2:00

That's enough from me. Here's the episode. Everyone

2:07

they say the content never sleeps, but it's more

2:09

like coming out of an exorcism. Over

2:12

and over again you just think it's done, you

2:15

think you might lie down and get on with

2:17

something else, but no it pops up and it

2:19

says, Hamada, hamada, hamada, I'm coming after you. How

2:21

many exorcisms have you had? I do, many of

2:23

my friends, too many content-isms over and over again.

2:25

Even to try and carve out the time to

2:27

record this podcast, five of the things cropped up,

2:29

whack-a-mole style, to be able to actually get them

2:31

out the way to face stuff. The power of

2:33

the internet is such that by the time this

2:35

goes up and the people listen to it, you

2:37

will be a dad, you won't be here. We'll

2:40

see. You'll be coming back of course, but you

2:42

won't be here for the turn, you'll even have

2:44

a little break with your child, but the beauty

2:46

is, lives are gonna change when this is up.

2:48

I hope that's not too, um, I'm trying to

2:51

freak her out every time we talk about it.

2:53

I'm like talking about some of the most, um,

2:55

superlative terms. No, no one could genuinely freak me

2:57

out more than the reality of me about to

2:59

be a dad, and then sitting, thinking of every

3:02

waking second of my life to this point, thinking

3:04

about every single moral or

3:06

rule that I live by, and how

3:08

do I pass that on, and then just

3:10

thinking about keeping them alive, nothing

3:12

in words is ever gonna replicate that feeling. I

3:14

had a hamster once, right? And that was too much

3:17

responsibility, you know what I mean? I don't even look

3:19

after plants. And I'm gonna be a

3:21

dad. Like, it's ludicrous. Well, that's what you kids thought.

3:23

You get them to an age where they look after

3:25

the plants, and they look after the hamster, then it's

3:27

not your problem. Oh man, one of the best things

3:29

was thinking about an excuse to get a guinea pig

3:31

or a hamster or a rabbit. Like a starter pet,

3:34

that like you can't do. I wanted to get a

3:36

rabbit as a full grown adult man, and

3:38

my wife would not let me, and I was like,

3:40

but they're so cool. I'm surprised now that I think

3:42

about it. You've had your house for years at this

3:44

point. It's a lovely house, you got a nice big

3:46

garden. Thank you very much. You've never been tempted to

3:48

get a cat or a dog? Oh, very much tempted.

3:50

I'm hypoallergenic, so I'm allergic to like

3:52

the vast majority of cats. Oh, okay. So I'm more of a

3:54

cat man than a dog man, but if I'm getting a cat,

3:56

it has to be on this list of like, I think it's

3:59

12 approval. breeds. It is

4:01

and because those breeds are more rare

4:03

then the price tag is very high

4:06

and so there was one that there are some

4:08

cheaper hypoallergenic cats that you can get but I

4:10

really wanted if we were gonna do it and

4:12

get something to look after for like ten years

4:14

or whatever I really wanted to get a Russian

4:16

blue which is like a really beautiful and kind

4:18

of like a like a sheba kind of gray

4:21

lovely little cat but then when you look at

4:23

the prices for them it's like 200 pounds. That's

4:25

cheap. Does it? I always had rescue cats growing

4:27

up. I've looked after five cats in my

4:29

lifetime but they're always family cats but they were always rescue

4:31

cats. I've never bought like an animal in my life on

4:33

that scale like I never bought a dog or anything but

4:35

like every time my friends talk about you know buying a

4:38

dog not from like a rescue shelter or whatever it's like

4:40

a thousand pounds eight hundred pounds six hundred pounds some of

4:42

them are I mean it depends because sometimes you're paying for

4:44

like them to be like pre-wormed or you might pay for

4:46

them to already have like a chip in their color so

4:49

that if they go missing you can dial it in on

4:51

a map or something. All of that is so alien to

4:53

me. I didn't have a dog until I was like 17

4:56

so whatever that grew up with one go back

4:58

now and see him Winston he's called he's really

5:00

lovely. That's a great any older like sort of

5:02

gentleman name is the best name for a cat

5:04

like Arthur the cat or Albert. And a child

5:07

there you go Winston child name. Look

5:09

I'm fighting every age not to call him Jin. I

5:11

mean I might do. Oh that's crazy

5:13

by the time this goes up you'll have a name for your

5:15

kid. Do you know what's really weird about them man? Because they

5:17

give you a due date for all this stuff. Shout

5:20

out to any other potential in

5:22

proximity dads like I'm due on the 13th

5:24

but like 96% of all kids don't hit

5:26

their due date. Yeah so especially with boys

5:28

apparently boys are always longer and if

5:30

it's your first kid then it can take a

5:33

longer anyway so like yeah the whole thing of

5:35

trying to schedule and be like oh you'll be

5:37

this by this time it might not be that

5:39

at all so I have no idea. Well Scott

5:41

I don't want to cut you off but we've

5:43

got a lot of questions today. Yeah. Specifically about

5:45

you being a dad. We've saved some of that

5:47

good stuff for a bit because we are recording

5:49

a lot of them different episodes for the wind-up

5:51

while you're away this is gonna be a two-parter

5:53

where we're answering your questions and we will hopefully

5:56

fingers crossed have a two-parter on the worst games

5:58

of all time. At least our respective choices

6:00

for that but I put the tweet

6:02

out, posted on Instagram, put the Q&A

6:04

on Spotify asking people to get in

6:06

touch and the response was truly overwhelming

6:09

in the best possible way. Everyone is

6:11

very beautiful. 70 to 80 questions of

6:13

which were excellent. We're gonna get as

6:15

through as many as we possibly can

6:17

across these two episodes and

6:19

we at the point of this is like

6:22

an off-topic M1 but we did get some

6:24

great gaming ones and I'm gonna start off

6:26

with one but the rest I'm gonna save for maybe

6:28

even a part three down the line when you return

6:30

because I do want to get to them all at some

6:33

point. Yes you've curated and collated this whole thing I'm just

6:35

along for the ride at this point. Yeah, I'll give you

6:37

a nice one too you know it's on a nice little

6:39

chill Thursday afternoon that we're recording with. You've got a cup

6:41

of wine as well. Oh I certainly do. I want a

6:43

cup of beer. I was saving it so I could do

6:45

the opening on this because congratulations Scott. Oh can

6:48

I hear you that? Yeah. You're gonna be a dad. Live is

6:50

gonna change. I would join

6:52

you in having some sort of alcoholic beverage

6:54

but at the minute because the idea that

6:56

sprog can appear at any time has got me

6:58

very aware of my phone. Oh this wasn't

7:00

for you. This is all for me. That's fair enough.

7:03

Yeah that's the issue. The other day, well by the

7:05

time this goes up, we were recording the news and

7:07

my phone buzzed lovely little innocent message telling me about

7:09

some food I'm gonna be having and I thought it

7:11

was the baby on the way. I've never seen panic

7:13

cross a man's face with such severity before. I tell

7:15

you what I'm curious about is right now as we're

7:18

recording this I'm two weeks out from the due date.

7:20

I don't know what the average person does in regards

7:22

to freeing up as much time as possible. Like I've

7:24

been able because of the job that we have to

7:26

do more working from home. I can be ready. I

7:28

can be at home but I do have

7:30

a car full of hospital bags. I'm ready to go kind of thing but

7:33

I don't know what the average person does because you're

7:35

sort of like or I'm just cracking on as if

7:37

everything's okay. Being like well it's two weeks away don't

7:40

worry about it and then one of my friends as

7:42

a couple they were also due the day before us

7:44

went into labor like the night before. Like last yesterday

7:46

as we're recording this and I was like it can

7:48

happen two weeks in. It can happen whatever. Yeah what

7:51

are we doing? That was what happens. I'm so scared

7:53

of it happening while recording this. And

7:57

I'm very tragic. I'd love to be there. I Was gonna

7:59

say. The complaint and I completely forgotten that

8:01

all one something about wines and but you

8:04

think of the matter, I can't remember a

8:06

doddle gone beyond a warning that it's gonna

8:08

be nice is gonna be incredible and our

8:10

first questions are actually it's about you being

8:12

a dad like useful gotten totes and Richard

8:14

Smith said major congrats to school in becoming

8:16

a dad nine and with girl is too

8:18

soon and I can tell you that the

8:21

greatest sure you'll ever experienced in this light

8:23

speed of other any games you're looking forward

8:25

to showing your kid or when them all

8:27

cognitive mine is or Kareena and the boards

8:29

spiral we. Talk about this a law or I

8:31

think about this law in terms of like in the

8:33

as he generation to the next what he gonna give

8:35

them like I don't want to just give them for

8:38

my i don't want a given the new stuff I

8:40

want them to have this and precision for the median

8:42

that I do or at least given bevy of stuff

8:44

I remember me my wife she'd never dumped a biscuit

8:46

before and we we made a big plot or of

8:48

all the different biscuits and went through them one by

8:50

one migrated the mall and then and because was that

8:53

cool and then we'd little to do a proper experience.

8:55

So this regard it's gonna be Mario's going to be

8:57

the early stuff. It's a might even be the original

8:59

Mario yeah. I'm so curious. Does it does

9:01

a tiny child's mind and Mrs Smith kid my

9:03

already be aware of this? Does a tiny tiny

9:06

childminder know that these are old games or

9:08

they just happy to play them? Yeah if a

9:10

kid super Mario world today go as from I

9:12

like to determine aware that was four nights am

9:14

because I was he did. The schools can influence

9:17

all that stuff all that tell their friends every

9:19

thanks but it is are a little window their

9:21

weight and she discovered the place up without

9:23

them being like oh it's all day as yeah

9:25

think you've got lots of how it is now

9:28

with access the and that I pods moans and

9:30

all of that the kids my get a lead

9:32

them we did your our insight or these for

9:34

me I'm because big the self of my entire

9:37

world knows grown up with whatever my mom

9:39

and dad told me it was wholly you know

9:41

to been so anything they introduced me to I

9:43

just felt was brand new So the first Playstation

9:45

First Consul I've played with the placed as wants

9:48

but by that point the Playstation two was just

9:50

around the corner than I did not know about

9:52

for lung times I do think you have a

9:54

nice window until they go knows we're school subways

9:57

they had a curated a little bit introduced that

9:59

certain things. Gonna be going Dad why

10:01

can I buy books? have a fortnight so that's

10:03

the thing and I want to be like hey

10:05

let's plays into the stuff in your get a

10:08

feel for that and like hey this is what

10:10

like the Playstation one brought to the game what

10:12

I was three dates are they going to go

10:14

to nursery and all the kids games of their

10:17

like in Hd? yeah you're making me feel this

10:19

posey stuff so I don't have as little with

10:21

that's why I be utah it right on our

10:23

to see the low side. I am beyond just

10:26

a myth. something to do with replicating the journey

10:28

through gaming that I have. I'm without being. Too

10:30

laborious with it. but I do think you need

10:32

the classics. Simply did movies lights on a pick

10:35

which movie to show them other games is what's

10:37

the original song was in. Talks about maybe going

10:39

into the focus on us where we were saying

10:41

you know you can try to push acted in

10:43

the right direction but there's no guarantee that they'll

10:46

end up liking what you like in you. Hope

10:48

that something like Mario like Zelda like Star Wars

10:50

for instance when movie for the so Good in

10:52

Universal that it will appeal to them. but what

10:55

is it was he trying to show them all

10:57

with still in the just like snap that has

10:59

an orange gathered. Off was the football that to

11:01

just gonna come round of. likes it or somebody

11:03

may have. We have all the wanted. Yeah you're.

11:06

Ready to go or yeah I'll just be happy

11:08

as our be I think but it's them yet

11:10

is not. I think of other I think about

11:12

every damn a chronic over think I think of

11:14

all the stuff in terms of like I want

11:16

to model want to build them on them to

11:18

be their own person. Methods has two years you

11:20

have to be on them with various things to

11:22

mix of the get pushed in the writer absence

11:25

from dear What if you raise some one I

11:27

didn't have a committee possible for up for a

11:29

set of parents who are both julie into something

11:31

to raise a child who is than enough for

11:33

most of the thing that they were into. Jag

11:35

says it's I'm mostly into similar to the my

11:37

parents rented what we're thinking so long term that

11:39

at least in my case like I was into

11:41

some stuff the my parents hornsey when I was

11:43

younger Robbie Williams for instance he was great. Lovely

11:45

album upswing when you went in but at certain

11:47

age I think. Most. people you

11:49

know maybe this is untrue or got no celebrate

11:51

a bucket of but i'd argue that you get

11:53

to an age where you kind of rebel against

11:55

what you parents like oh yeah want to find

11:57

your own stuff so that will probably end of

11:59

happen I saw that too where I was like,

12:01

do I pre- I'm pre-aware of that so I

12:03

get them into the wrong stuff So when they're

12:05

when they rebel against that and get into the

12:07

stuff they think they're into that's secretly what I

12:09

was always into And then we sync up again

12:11

a 20 year long con Scott

12:15

our next question is on similar lines on Kuzo

12:17

who says again in celebration of Scott becoming a

12:19

dad Who are the best video game dads that

12:21

can teach you the best about how to be

12:24

and how not to be a parent? Who are

12:26

you looking to in the video game space and

12:28

going? I might take some tips from that guy

12:30

I don't I don't know if you have anyone for this But

12:32

for me the best life lessons

12:34

in video games aren't necessarily from the

12:36

dad characters I love Creosus journey in

12:38

2018 in Ragnarok But

12:42

I mean if you think about like video

12:44

game dad, it's Joel. It's Creos like there's

12:46

not that many I don't think maybe I'm

12:48

maybe not Exact

12:50

dad's but I do think we're in an era

12:53

since the last of us and since my truck

12:55

infinite of at least surrogate father figures You know

12:57

what? I mean? Like you've got that relationship with

12:59

between someone and a child and they might not

13:01

be directly their father or a parent or a

13:04

guy You know anything like that, but that familial

13:06

relationship is kind of at the core of it

13:08

Like God of War I think is a perfect

13:10

example. Yeah, I think Ragnarok in particular

13:12

is a great Dive

13:14

into just dad's in general one of

13:16

the like, you know masculine in stuff

13:18

But you've got saw on one side

13:20

who is this nightmare

13:23

of a father and kind of like what Kratos

13:25

could turn into and you see the impact that

13:27

he has on his family and His kid like

13:29

considering that as a game about you know punching

13:31

Norse gods in the face I

13:33

love it when you are going to

13:36

see saw and is like lowest in his kid

13:38

is just like I Was dad.

13:40

Yeah, come on. Like we've talked about this

13:42

why you like relapsing into these behaviors and

13:44

stuff and then you have those Relationship

13:47

with Odin and white explains how

13:49

the way is God of War

13:51

Ragnarok. Oh, I almost We

13:55

should recommend or I do recommend the Big Long Podcast

13:57

We do is that one of our first hour long

13:59

podcast was dissecting everything. That as Oregon rock and

14:01

saw Ragnar up for we didn't want. it was

14:03

like monogamous go to war across. Yeah I think

14:05

to me like yeah I level us of I

14:07

love conversations on like different thoughts so different projections

14:10

of hostility over different decades different generations. I think

14:12

it's am be more emotionally available at the I

14:14

do that was used to be more of a

14:16

weakness that is something that was in my childhood

14:18

like different from portrayals of part is a media

14:21

or whatever. I was curious how that feels. Oh

14:23

yeah be able to m paul an idea of

14:25

hostility to another to a fresh canvas. I've no

14:27

idea what kind of feel like. It's interesting cause

14:29

as a concept men were so aware of that.

14:32

Now where's back in the tapping? My dad would

14:34

never even been thinking about know and I'd just

14:36

get so what is dated says something that happens.

14:38

Where is now we're like or what is this

14:40

meeting? How how do we have sought who? We

14:43

really did not be like our fathers open up

14:45

your granddad Zola People can befall. I wonder what

14:47

that even mean in the modern world? I don't

14:49

I don't want to get lost over thinking stuff

14:51

like I don't have anything wrong and but as

14:54

I feel like a be aware of if I

14:56

was being too overly aggressive I was in fact

14:58

from someone elses ceilings in a whatever the hell

15:00

it is am in that regard for M Yeah,

15:02

fully aware that stuff I think you can go

15:05

to fall exact them lot of research like you

15:07

know, me, molest and so much we said she's

15:09

read so many boots I know I don't read

15:11

but she's been lost us on them all of

15:13

those things. It's like. When. They do this.

15:15

You should say this, when this happens, they're actually thinking

15:18

this and this is project him as and whatever and

15:20

that's fine. I'll try and take that stuff on board,

15:22

but I don't want someone else. Bringing. my

15:24

kid off like it has to be right

15:26

well i guess to feel genuine and that

15:28

the one of the you to wanted than

15:30

big mistakes eight hundred just resigned to the

15:32

fact that everyone will make mistakes know it's

15:34

your he absolutely right roll with it as

15:36

you go yet the best intentions and go

15:38

from the he could the nightmare that i

15:40

have about some when he was wondering whether

15:42

he wants kids and how is like you

15:45

could be the best parent in the world

15:47

in you can do ninety nine point nine

15:49

percent of the things perfectly but that one

15:51

point one percent of things that you do

15:53

wrong screwing best your kid of regular we

15:55

figured about to say are a luxury in

15:57

insane films regard i just think like everyone

15:59

i know has something with their parents. You know

16:01

what I mean? It's almost unavoidable. And I'm not saying

16:03

that's bad by any means. I mean, that's normal. Like

16:06

you said, you will make some mistakes and it will

16:08

kind of stay with your kid a bit, but you

16:10

just kind of wanna, I think, foster that relationship where

16:12

you can talk about it, you can reflect. It's not

16:14

something that is gonna drive a wedge between you. You

16:17

know what I mean? No, no, I mean, it's growth.

16:19

If you make some mistake and they harbor something for

16:21

a good few years, few decades, they're gonna grow as

16:23

a person too. They'll figure it out. Maybe you have

16:25

more conversations and maybe you get closer over time. There's

16:28

not any perfect way to do it. And

16:30

also, the amount of data that is

16:32

now available on child psychology or parent

16:34

psychology, partner psychology, there's so much stuff

16:37

there that you can get lost in.

16:39

Clearly, it's one big process. Just accepting

16:41

you're in that flow is kind of

16:43

just part of it to me. Well,

16:45

I've got one more question about fatherhood

16:47

before we move on to some, sometimes

16:49

some big questions. Father good. Some very

16:51

silly ones. I kind of, you

16:54

touched on it there and Brian Cole asks,

16:56

how has Scott been preparing for fatherhood? Glad

16:59

to see you doing so well too Josh. Thank you, Brian.

17:01

Yes, thank you very much as well. I've

17:04

done everything. I've built a nursery. We've got

17:06

the hospital bags and the car. Read

17:08

a lot of stuff. We've done some private baby classes

17:10

with the NHS stuff as well. Basically, the NHS gives

17:12

you a series of live streams, which

17:15

I had really, really helpful. And like, you can't talk to

17:17

the person who's hosting it, which is really, really helpful. PewDiePie.

17:20

Yeah, baby, I can't think of a baby celebrity with

17:22

some boss babies. The boss babies. Posting them. And so

17:24

yeah, the NHS stuff is really cool, but it only

17:26

goes so far. I wanted to talk to experts. I

17:28

wanted to talk to people who, midwives

17:31

and stuff like that. And we got the midwife classes

17:33

as well. But we ended up paying for a series

17:35

of private classes just to do in the city center.

17:37

So we've been doing them every Wednesday for the last

17:39

few weeks. And then with other parents

17:41

who are right on the cusp of

17:44

popping sprogs all their weeks behind us. And I

17:46

just love that whole thing. I love all the

17:48

new dads talking to each other, all the

17:50

new moms, everything else. And the conversations that come

17:52

from that, like the masculinity conversation, we talked about

17:55

that. It wasn't like a

17:57

prompted thing, that there are guidance markers and stuff. But

17:59

we ended up just. talking about what kind of dads

18:01

we're gonna be and talking about our dads and stuff

18:03

like that. So yeah I love all that stuff but

18:05

in terms of prep at this stage I'm just waiting.

18:07

Again I guess I don't want to pry too much.

18:10

You don't even need to open up. It's a podcast

18:12

about video games. How bloody well. But like has something

18:14

like this and when you're talking to other people you're

18:16

talking to your family like has it made your

18:19

relationship with your own parents that little bit deeper or

18:21

have that extra bit of understanding now you kind of

18:23

have that parallel. I know you've always been close but.

18:25

I was gonna say I'm super close anyway so it

18:27

was more just like raw information I didn't know like

18:29

hey what was it like on the day that like

18:31

you needed to go into labour and you go to

18:33

the hospital what was that like finding out those stories

18:35

are like things that I've had bits and pieces of

18:37

before but not fully but now I'm lucky enough to

18:40

have like two lovely parents that I

18:42

love and like I see them every weekend we're

18:44

super close we talk about everything. Anyway and that

18:46

was one of the things that like I kind

18:48

of fostered over the years as I got older me and

18:50

my dad would just stay up until like two three four in

18:52

the morning just talking about life. I became

18:54

like a teenager because I had more thoughts on life and

18:57

then we would start doing that stuff and we'd

18:59

like you know the whole thing where you have

19:01

the whole genre of dad movies which shout out

19:03

to the We Love Dad Movies podcast you know

19:05

but that era of movies or that sort of

19:07

type of movie is something that we would just

19:10

stick on and then you know you had Sky

19:12

mission possible two's on again whatever put that on

19:14

okay what's our next put that on you're not

19:16

even really watching the movie yeah but you're just

19:18

talking about everything and so thankfully I've

19:20

got that with my dad now. So

19:22

it's cool I'm looking forward to them being

19:25

grandparents like it's that's gonna be really fun.

19:27

We're already planning like family trips and stuff

19:29

so like yeah. Oh man! Oh

19:31

it's exciting it's gonna be happening. It's gonna

19:33

be sweet though. Very very soon right we'll

19:35

pivot now a little bit into talking about

19:38

this job actually. Ryan

19:41

Daggers asks what's a best name

19:43

ever? What's been your favorite

19:45

piece of work you've ever done? I guess it doesn't have

19:47

to be from this job. I always know this. What

19:49

is it? Mine's the Red Dead Redemption 2

19:51

is Oh it's great.

19:53

Thank you. It's just something that as I was playing

19:56

through Red Dead 2 I started having a feel for.

19:58

It's an editorial it was edited by OZBE who's over I

20:01

think frontier at the game developer now and

20:04

Yeah, just just I really like I love the way that

20:06

came out like sometimes you get master an editor Who just

20:08

knows exactly what you're trying to say and they put the

20:10

right stuff together And but I'm

20:12

very proud of that like as an opinion piece

20:15

I think it only gets more true every year

20:17

that we rockstar do stuff and

20:19

in terms of the tonality of their games and stuff

20:21

So yeah, it's that one video. I think there's

20:23

other stuff like I I'm really like I'm

20:25

proud of all this Yeah, we have like

20:27

a following for the podcast, which is insane

20:29

people recognize us all the time, which is really really cool

20:31

You never expect it. I'm always honored to anyone

20:34

to matter to anyone outside of Miami

20:36

to found me and everyone And so that's lovely, but

20:38

I think as an individual thing my brain served up

20:40

the Red Dead video I

20:42

don't know. I was trying to think about this and a few came

20:44

to mind because and I

20:47

don't know. I think I took a lot of stuff

20:49

for granted to be honest I think we were doing

20:51

so much that I never really have the opportunity to

20:53

stop and kind of reflect and look back It was

20:55

only when this question came in when I was collating

20:57

them I started thinking about it and I was thinking

20:59

there are a few things for me this

21:01

podcast I think being here and obviously what

21:03

culture is so much bigger than I it

21:06

was already a thing when I joined and

21:09

So there was nothing really that I was starting I suppose

21:11

right when I didn't start the podcast But I was

21:13

there on the first episode. I was I really wanted to

21:15

do it. You know what I mean? I think the first

21:17

podcast was me you and be you okay I was

21:20

just it as a one with me you and Ash and

21:22

it's right at the start as well She might be honest.

21:24

I'm pretty sure it's the Red Dead 2 one That's a

21:26

long ago. That's the first one. I thought it was Jules.

21:28

I can't remember why It was that year anyway If

21:30

it is you it was that year it was absolutely

21:32

that long time ago and then kind of like sticking

21:35

with it in the first constant

21:38

roadblocks and potential cancellations

21:40

of the podcast entirely Funny

21:43

enough trying to figure out where podcasts fit

21:45

as your company pivots towards increased video and

21:47

no audio platform is a hello thing to

21:49

navigate When you don't necessarily have

21:51

that much power in the structure in itself totally

21:53

trying to commit to you

21:56

know All of your only podcast

21:58

like you said in a predominantly

22:00

and YouTube video based thing and trying to keep them

22:03

alive the video podcast Yeah, that doesn't have the retention

22:05

and we're gonna get sponsors But they don't want to

22:07

do video sponsors and then should we do the specific

22:09

channel just for them? And that doesn't make any money

22:11

and it's like oh there was a period where I

22:13

think Our bosses

22:16

at the time kind of forgot this podcast existed Look

22:21

at it, so I go away and now we're here. We've kind

22:24

of got out We're in a period

22:26

now where have a little bit more control over it and

22:28

stuff One thing I don't

22:30

talk about enough because I was so worried about

22:32

it becoming the one story I had to tell

22:35

one of the first big things I did when

22:37

I joined this company was interview Tommy Wiseau the

22:39

director of the room did I know this you

22:41

must have it was ages ago Like it was

22:43

one of the first things I did in that

22:46

ring Faintest bell don't you

22:48

think we put out on the channel? I recorded the audio

22:50

and again It was another thing where it was just I

22:52

don't know wasn't allowed to be put up

22:54

in YouTube for some reason I

22:57

got to transcribe it. I got to publish

22:59

it so that still exists What and it

23:01

was about his film and best friends at

23:03

the time so it was him and Greg's

23:05

sterile who plays mark in the room and

23:07

who I think co-wrote and co-directed that movie

23:10

and Just like that surreal

23:12

nature of I stayed in the office because they

23:14

were on a different time zone And I was

23:16

interviewing him at about 10 or

23:18

11 at night and it was like the first

23:20

big interview I've ever done I didn't have viewed

23:22

one person before it was just

23:24

like you know a very very

23:27

small independent movie director And

23:29

no one with like the stature of like

23:31

or infamy I guess as Tommy Wiseau and

23:33

I'm a waiting for the Skype call to

23:35

come through just being terrified

23:38

Yeah, oh my god question. Yeah nervous to

23:40

me about what they were gonna say or

23:42

think of me will even understand by Jody

23:45

super quick. It's an accent. That's the thing

23:47

behind the scenes thing I don't

23:49

know I've actually I don't mean this in a braggy in

23:51

a bragging way I have lost kind of how many interviews

23:53

I've done at this point But I've been lucky enough to

23:55

be able to interview people like Scotty in for mom trucks

23:57

mocks money miles Kennedy from all the bridge Etc and

24:00

the pre-interview energy, I hate it. It's awful. I hate

24:02

waiting to connect. I was lucky enough to talk to

24:04

Ed Boon last year, but in that specific little, it

24:07

was only a 2 minute, 5 minute window where you

24:09

give up whatever you were doing, you sit down, the

24:11

next thing you're doing is talking, but you're waiting to

24:13

connect, like you're prepping your notes, I despise it. It's

24:16

the most height of anxiety. I just hate it. Like,

24:18

all I want to do is break the ice and

24:20

talk to the person, but then you get like, you've

24:22

only got a 10 minute window, so it's just like,

24:24

get in there, ask you stuff, hey, are you doing

24:27

okay? Okay, okay, okay, you don't really care, so whatever.

24:29

Like, it's just, I got, it's a gross time.

24:31

It's someone with a bloody anxiety condition anyway, it

24:33

only exacerbates it, and it's a funny one, because

24:35

while it's something I'm the most proud of, especially

24:37

because it was something outside of my comfort zone,

24:39

it was also confirmation that I don't think I

24:41

want to do that again, I don't think I

24:43

want to do any more interviews. I was big

24:46

into The Walking Dead at the time and still

24:48

am now, and an opportunity came up to, I

24:50

can't remember who it was, but it was one

24:52

of the cast members. I think it might have

24:54

been the guy who plays Morgan, a character I

24:56

really like. I'm blanking on his name now, but

24:58

he's a great actor. The opportunity came up for

25:00

that, and I thought, I probably should, but

25:02

I don't want to have to go through

25:04

that again. It's too nerve-wracking. But the Tommy

25:06

Wiseau one was a fun time, and I

25:08

accidentally annoyed him with the very first question,

25:11

and he wasn't a fan of me after that.

25:13

What was the first question? It was innocuous. I

25:16

think it might have got lost in translation,

25:18

or maybe I just came across wrong, but

25:20

I asked him essentially because he had co-written

25:22

and co-directed this one, whereas he had, you

25:24

know, full directorial control over the room. I

25:26

just asked, like, what was it

25:29

like, you know, collaborating with someone closely?

25:31

Like, what was it like giving up that little

25:33

bit of creative control? And maybe it's

25:35

because he's, I don't know, there's a certain reputation

25:37

attached to him. Maybe he thought I was coming

25:39

for him and saying, like, you're a control freak,

25:41

but it genuinely was just a question. Yeah, no,

25:43

it makes sense. Because as we've talked about before,

25:45

like, I'm similar, whereas if I'm collaborating, it's a

25:47

completely different thing from when you are in charge

25:50

of the whole thing. So I thought it would

25:52

be interesting to ask, and he was like, well,

25:54

first off, I'm not a control. I

25:56

didn't mean to like that, Tommy. I really didn't mean it

25:59

like that. Tommy, Tommy, I think

26:01

yes, I think those two things and

26:03

actually one more and this

26:05

is a another group thing and Not

26:08

that chatty faces I

26:10

don't love doing now and not that I

26:12

don't love doing it way back when but

26:14

I think the first probably six episodes of

26:17

that show Was

26:19

some of the things that I was the most

26:21

proud of because you can like go back and

26:23

watch those very early Episodes and kind of chart

26:25

that Show finding its fall. Oh, yeah First one

26:27

is very different from the second one which is

26:29

very different from the third one You can see

26:31

the progression of the thumbnail the kind of the

26:33

ways edited by em I think it was rich

26:35

at the time, you know doing these great edits

26:37

Shout out to Richard and that kind of evolution

26:39

of being there while that show kind of found

26:41

its footing for the first six episodes So and

26:44

then you know, I still love a bunch of the

26:46

episodes we've done since but just that kind of just

26:48

it Gestation period of everyone collaborating through on their

26:50

ideas in I really enjoyed that I think it's

26:53

a privilege and it's lucky enough to be able to say

26:55

that you were part of something that like had a specific

26:57

creative chemistry To it and in the moment, it's not like

26:59

we thought and it's not I'm not holding it up on

27:01

a pedestal or anything But they were incredibly fun to put

27:04

together But I didn't think of them as something that would

27:06

end in terms of that era And like obviously that the

27:08

pandemic is what eventually killed it off because everyone went and

27:10

did different jobs and everything But like to be able to

27:12

like we recorded one every week They had huge views like

27:14

200,000 views a week kind of thing And

27:16

there was a whole run for like a couple of years solid

27:19

or maybe even three years solid And where we were

27:21

all kind of discovering how to even do that format

27:23

with each other and then as it was being recorded

27:25

someone like Rich or always they would have an idea

27:27

for how they were gonna edit it So it all

27:29

came out really well and we would premiere them every

27:31

Friday and then we didn't know what their final edit

27:33

looked like So we would be in the chat in

27:35

the premiere chat with everybody else And then that was

27:37

just really fun and then like Richard something to show

27:39

off I always we had something to show off and

27:41

it was just a really phenomenal creative chemistry And it's

27:43

just so unique and it's like just shout out to

27:45

every single one of them Like it they came together

27:47

better than we ever thought they would. Oh, absolutely We

27:50

didn't we thought maybe that would be a nice experiment to

27:52

do for a week or two And it would get the

27:54

can and we'd be back to doing lists But the fact

27:56

that it manages to stay and have a longevity and people

27:58

still feel like when you do the next chat your

28:00

faces now and even now when we do get

28:02

back together and we're in the room upstairs and

28:04

size open we go Joe we got Durkin and

28:06

we get that sort of like nice collective spirit

28:09

back it's like ah man I see why we

28:11

love doing this every single day. Talking about video

28:13

games. Talking about video games I've heard it's very

28:15

good. There was something else I was going to

28:17

say oh geez yeah in the second episode we

28:19

ever did I always remember this I don't even

28:21

remember what I talked about but it was like

28:23

the most emotional video game of all time. Right.

28:26

One of the jewels is entry. It

28:28

was so emotional that everyone in the room with

28:31

them like we all cried. It was a it

28:33

was a game that made you cry or something

28:35

and he did that dragon cancer I think.

28:38

Yeah. There was just something about that

28:40

energy of it was the first time I'd done something of this

28:42

job which you get very privileged to do but

28:44

you know you get into a routine where it's like okay

28:46

I'm doing a list today I'm doing nothing. It is a

28:48

job you know what I mean you kind of sometimes the

28:51

creativity or at least the time to

28:53

spend making it a mission project just naturally has

28:55

to go by the wayside sometimes but I remember

28:57

doing that one and everyone was getting emotional. I

28:59

don't even know if it translated in the finished

29:01

version but being in that room I just remember

29:04

thinking like oh this is something. Oh I remember

29:06

thinking the same thing. Please I'm here for this

29:08

you know. Yeah. Yeah.

29:10

Because we kind of knew going into the subject matter was going to

29:13

be like that but no I remember thinking the

29:15

same thing. Yeah. It's like it's nice

29:17

it's ironically nice to do this kind of subject matter with

29:19

a group of people and then like manage to record something

29:21

that's like usable on the other side of it. I

29:24

think that's another thing to constantly be proud of is

29:26

like being in the room while someone else is doing

29:28

crack and work. Yeah. I think

29:30

it was three times a week with you in this podcast you know what I

29:32

mean. We do it on chatty faces in the top. Oh

29:35

man. I'm sorry. On that regard I

29:37

always love I don't know what the name of the chatty

29:40

was. It was something where I got to say

29:42

L.A. Noire was terrible. Oh hi. And

29:44

I remember Rich filmed you with his phone and I didn't realize that was going to

29:46

be in the edit. I remember like

29:48

I think in the final edit it's like me ranting about

29:50

L.A. Noire then it cuts to Rich's phone which looks at

29:52

you shaking your head and then back to me and back

29:54

into the regular edit and there's little things that were really

29:56

cool of like oh that is what we look like recording

29:59

these things. And yeah, just little things

30:01

like that. It's, um, yeah, I'm proud of the run.

30:03

Yeah. The run so far. I'm 11 years in. You're

30:05

not very far behind me. Oh, I suppose. Yeah. Well,

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you. I've got one more now about

32:21

like the work I suppose that will

32:23

be less self-congratulatory. We'll bring ourselves back

32:25

down to work now. George, sorry, George

32:27

asked and I thought it was really

32:29

interesting. They asked, has there ever

32:31

been a time where you have quote unquote

32:34

sold out in your career and do you

32:36

regret it? Gaming media, I'm sure it can

32:38

be tough with walking the fine line of

32:40

making content slash money about games slash publishers

32:43

you actually dislike. Now I think we can

32:45

both say that we've never said

32:48

anything that we didn't believe in, you

32:50

know? No, I mean, man,

32:52

this whole subject matter is hilarious because

32:55

what was the thing? I did that video as when you

32:57

were away last year, I did a video called like Square

32:59

Enix is dying or something because I if something comes along

33:02

and I want to talk about it, I just want to

33:04

talk about it. And like, thankfully, wait, we don't other than

33:06

the podcast sponsors, we don't have any sponsors. Yeah, probably because

33:08

they see the stuff that we put out and go, we

33:10

can't we never get in the Ubisoft earthquake again. And

33:13

they just don't get in touch anymore. But that's

33:15

the thing. We've never had that in place. And

33:17

in the past, obviously, we have done sponsored content in

33:20

the past, like we did a destroy all humans thing

33:22

a couple of years ago. But I wouldn't have stopped

33:24

me calling out with the HQ Nordic or whatever if

33:26

something came up. So like that whole echelon key

33:28

echelon, use echelon in the recording earlier

33:30

today, that whole wing of journalism

33:33

or media presentation or coverage or whatever, where it's

33:35

not built like that, like we're not built for

33:37

anything close to a review based model where we

33:39

have to be nice about a publisher because then

33:41

you might not get a review code or

33:44

something close to like the selling out thing or

33:46

being nice. You don't have to be nice. In

33:48

general, there's obviously a line we've never just done a hit

33:50

piece. And the nearest thing to

33:53

dissolve like talking about something relentlessly negative is

33:55

probably the state of suicide squad right now.

33:57

But that just keeps serving stuff up to

33:59

talk about. So it's like, well, why wouldn't you? Yeah,

34:02

to me, it's like, yeah, I'm endlessly, I'm

34:04

completely, I can easily reimburse, re-endorse

34:06

everything I've ever said. And

34:09

then like, if it's the only thing that's changed are

34:12

like opinions as you play more of a game or

34:14

something. That's it, like, obviously, yeah, obviously opinions change, but

34:16

at least in the moment, I know I would have

34:18

kind of believed whatever I was saying. Like you said,

34:20

I think we're quite, not even

34:22

lucky because I'm not even saying that like

34:24

the mainstream media outlets who rely on reviews

34:26

are, you know, doing anything to please the

34:29

publishers. I don't even think that happens. Certainly

34:31

don't get, at least now certainly don't get

34:33

like, paid off to do good reviews. I

34:35

think that's just something that people like to believe

34:37

in the comments. That was never like a one-to-one

34:39

anyway. Like it was, the nearest that got was

34:42

like, okay, your website has adverts

34:44

for a particular game from a particular publisher. That publisher

34:46

might then be a bit more cagey with you, not

34:48

us, but in scenarios circa 2014, 2015,

34:52

or in general, a bit more cagey with you over

34:54

the emails. They might not guarantee you a code to

34:56

something. They might wait until launch day. Your review coverage

34:59

is then like hobbled by that. Yeah. But we, I

35:01

mean, I think I sort of had a podcast from

35:03

years ago. I had that

35:05

with Bethesda back when Elder Scrolls Online launched and that

35:07

was before we had the video side of things but

35:09

it was Elder Scrolls Online, our launch was a complete

35:12

tire fire. And I remember referring

35:14

to that in a different list for something

35:16

else and just saying, there's like an aside,

35:18

like, oh, it can't be more broken than

35:20

Elder Scrolls Online. And I think at the

35:23

time they were scouting us for a potential sponsorship, probably

35:25

for Elder Scrolls Online. And whoever

35:27

was scouting us had found that line and they got in touch

35:29

and were like, why are you saying this? And

35:31

like, how dare you kind of thing. Yeah. And

35:34

I, at the time, just said, well, I remember

35:36

linking them to reports of the game being offline,

35:38

being like, well, I'm factually correct. Yeah, I mean,

35:41

it's not like, wait, this isn't bad faith. No,

35:43

and then funnily enough, someone else

35:45

replied from Bethesda at the time or the PR

35:47

that they were using anyway and said, oh,

35:49

that person was an intern. They kind of just, they just

35:51

kind of bit a bit too fast, like we're obviously teaching people

35:53

to try and massage messages, or whatever it is, and I'm assuming

35:56

that's the side of it. So yeah, so that

35:58

was one thing where I was like, oh, this is, could

36:00

have gone a different way. Yeah, I think like you said,

36:02

well, look at our YouTube side

36:04

of things like the bread and butter list,

36:06

so we don't rely on like break and

36:08

use coverage, like we'll know, break and sort

36:11

of game review style coverage. We obviously cover

36:13

the news, but it's cool to get on

36:15

stuff if it's available. We're not on people's

36:17

lists. No, no. Like I totally get the

36:19

brass tax reality of if you're a PR

36:21

company and you're working, you've been hired by

36:23

Ubisoft, you've been hired by Bethesda, you're gonna

36:25

get the IGNs, whoever else is

36:28

even out there. It's not us. No, it's

36:30

not even something like I'm resentful for. I'm like,

36:32

you know what, fair enough. Like that totally makes

36:34

sense. Anyway, I said this question wasn't gonna be

36:36

as hard as I had myself on the backscotch,

36:39

but I will say that at least for me

36:41

personally, been a lot of lessons to be learned

36:43

since we started doing the adverts for the podcast.

36:45

I remember when we

36:47

first started doing it, we got

36:49

a opportunity to do one

36:51

in collaboration with EA and Battlefield 2042.

36:54

Yes. And that was something I genuinely jumped at the

36:56

chance to do because I thought I'm a huge fan

36:59

of this franchise. I think this game looks incredible.

37:01

This is something I'm happy to put my name

37:03

to and kind of like go with it. And

37:05

then I did the adverts and the game obviously

37:07

came out and it was a little bit disappointing,

37:09

wasn't it? It had a lot of problems and

37:12

we did a video on

37:14

how it was disappointing and I like I said

37:16

I still like that game at the time for

37:18

what it was, but I can see that had

37:20

a lot of disappointing things in it and we

37:22

did a video on it. But then I just,

37:24

for me it was it was embarrassing for myself

37:26

because we did that video but me

37:29

saying like, hey the new Battlefield out on

37:31

the podcast was up until like a month after

37:33

it came out. Yeah. And I was thinking right

37:35

okay I have to think about this way more.

37:37

Just because it's a franchise that I trust doesn't

37:39

mean that I should go in on

37:42

that degree anymore and it kind of blew up

37:44

in my face then and I'd be more wary

37:46

about it that sense. I'm very very cut and

37:48

dry with where the the boundaries are between these

37:51

things. Like if you hear me doing a podcast

37:53

advert, that is a podcast advert. If you hear

37:55

me reviewing a video game, I'm reviewing a video

37:57

game. Yeah like to me those boundaries are... are

38:00

extremely clear. For me, it's like if you hear me

38:02

do, genuinely, if you hear me do a podcast

38:06

sponsor on this podcast, like it is

38:08

always something that I like or have.

38:10

Right. I'm familiar with, like genuinely

38:12

the stuff that I've done it for what

38:14

comes to mind is HelloFresh. I used HelloFresh

38:17

before we ever got an opportunity. Manscaped

38:19

I didn't use but now I use all

38:22

the time. I'm wearing manscaped pants right now

38:24

and we're not sponsored. Genuinely with

38:26

that product. I will keep equipping like EE Game

38:28

Store. Like my provider has

38:30

always been EE so I had to be able to do that.

38:32

And I think again, because we're such a

38:34

big team, we have the opportunities

38:37

to kind of pick and choose in that regard. Like

38:39

I know if something came in that I didn't want

38:41

to do, I wouldn't have to do it. And that

38:43

is a very, again, sort of like,

38:45

privileged person to be able to just say, No, I'm

38:47

not feeling it. I don't really believe in it.

38:49

And I'll say that I'm not, yeah, I'm not endorsing

38:51

stuff I don't like at all. Like we'd knock

38:53

stuff back. Oh my god, the NFT era. Oh, yeah.

38:56

So much stuff back. I'm not endorsing this at all.

38:58

Like there's a it's degrees of comfort,

39:00

I guess, in regards to it being an advert on the

39:02

channel. And yeah, and it's not like

39:04

that. That's the perfect scenario. Like you get a

39:06

set of sponsors that you actually do care about.

39:08

And the thing is, on the sponsored side, I

39:11

was massively proud when we were sponsored by God

39:13

of War Ragnarok. Oh, yeah. Not because like, I

39:15

mean, I've had various thoughts on the game. The

39:17

podcasts are out there. But the fact that we

39:19

would notice on Sony's radar where they were like,

39:21

oh, we want PlayStation adverts. And there's a wider

39:23

conversation about them being complacent that you're like a

39:25

wing of their marketing tool. But as a personal

39:27

thing, I was like, oh, but that's cool. Yeah.

39:29

I've heard of this sponsor. It's not just some random

39:31

tiny thing that we used to get five, six years ago.

39:34

Scott Talton moving on from the sponsors. I've

39:36

got one, a question here from George Jackson

39:38

who says, hello lads. In terms of movies,

39:41

now Marvel seems relatively dead in terms of

39:43

popularity and IP is suffering from fatigue. What's

39:45

the best original movie you've seen recently? Past

39:47

Lives and Oppenheimer and Killers of the Flower

39:49

Moon were my three favorites from last year.

39:52

Before you, I'm sorry, I'm just gonna say

39:54

those three are bangers. I loved all of

39:56

those. And seeing Killers of the Flower Moon

39:58

in the cinema was one of the best.

40:00

best experiences I had last year in past

40:03

lives blew me away. I have a horrific

40:05

memory, especially at this point in life where

40:07

I keep forgetting everything, but

40:09

it depends on how new they want to be because I'm

40:12

watching a lot of anime at the minute and I feel

40:14

like I've kicked it off. Every now and then I'll just

40:16

watch Akira again because it's just one of my favourite films.

40:18

I think it's absolutely flawless and I always get something else

40:21

out of it when I go back to it. And then

40:23

that, I watched last year a movie, Susan May is what

40:25

I'm going to shout out, which is a brand new movie,

40:27

where it's by a dude called Makoto Shinkai, who just has

40:29

this eye for living

40:32

in Japan, the small details, the

40:34

things that you notice when you're a tourist somewhere,

40:36

when you're in a city space, the feeling of

40:38

a bustling city. The first time I was lucky

40:40

enough to experience Japan last year and walk through

40:42

Tokyo with Sako and Koto, and the

40:45

feeling of Tokyo when we first came out

40:47

of the steps and you just see the

40:49

rush of all the signage and the skyscrapers

40:51

are twice as high as anything in where

40:53

we're from. It was beautiful. And Shinkai's

40:57

approach to his eye for what it's like

41:00

living in Japan, there's something about it that's

41:02

just so emotionally uplifting or just, it's like

41:04

I'm there again and it's just the most

41:06

beautiful stuff I've ever seen. Susan May is

41:08

what I'd shout out, it's spelled S-U-Z-U-M-E, came

41:11

out last year. But also his

41:14

work that I'm now working my way through,

41:16

a movie called Your Name is Awesome from

41:18

2016 I think. And yeah, Shinkai's work just

41:20

seems to be held up at the minute

41:23

as this big deal in anime. And so

41:25

I'd say Susan May, I think and just

41:27

in general I'm absolutely loving just his approach

41:29

to portraying life in Japan. That's it, I

41:31

hadn't heard of that one but all

41:34

of my pals have been recommending Your Name since

41:36

they came out. That's been on my radar for

41:38

a while, never committed but you've kind of just

41:40

sold it to me there. Your Name is beautiful

41:42

but I think, I preferred Susan

41:45

May. Susan May is just kind of

41:47

like about, well yeah, like a

41:49

post nuclear Japan, just sort of dealing with

41:51

rebuilding and all that kind of stuff and

41:54

the attitudes across Japan. And

41:56

I think that has a bit more of a message

41:58

to it. Whereas like, Your Name is almost like It's

42:00

like a mystery romance narrative, which

42:03

is cool. I guess it's so supremely well

42:05

done. But I got a bit more out of

42:07

the thematics of Sousa Mae. Classman. Honestly,

42:10

the three that were mentioned, it sounds like a cop-out answer,

42:12

some of my favorites from last year. I

42:15

loved the zone of interest. I

42:17

thought I'd seen that. Catching up on the Oscar films,

42:19

I think it's honestly, in terms of

42:21

the best picture category, it's maybe the

42:23

strongest year I've ever lived through. Every

42:25

single one I watch, I really enjoy.

42:29

The only one I wasn't too asked about was Maestro,

42:32

but even then, it was a funny enough watch. I

42:34

build on Maestro, but I loved Pastel I was pure

42:36

things, was beautiful, but in terms of the way it

42:38

was shot, but I didn't really care. When it finished,

42:40

I was quite glad it was done. Right. I'm not

42:42

a big fan of pure things. Yeah, I appreciate what

42:44

it was going for, but I just, I don't know,

42:46

it felt like it was really expansive,

42:49

and then towards the end, the message was just

42:51

very straightforward. Oh, I get that, yeah. And

42:53

at me before, I absolutely adored though. Oh, and

42:55

at me before, that was

42:57

one of those top cinema-going experiences

43:00

of last year, watching that all the way through.

43:02

Oh, man. I'm trying to log into my letterbox

43:04

as we're talking. I can't get on there, but

43:06

I guess it's my- You loved Dune too, didn't

43:09

you? I did not love Dune too. That thing

43:11

sucks, but Dune's really boring. But I can't think

43:13

of the rest of the stuff that I've watched,

43:15

so I will hang my entire thing on either

43:18

SousaMae slash Makoto Shinkai's work, or if

43:20

it's something that I've watched that's new,

43:22

but it's actually old, I'll shout out

43:24

Perfect Blue, which is a murder

43:26

mystery dissection

43:28

of what it means to be a celebrity-type

43:31

anime movie from the mid-90s. We

43:33

had a question later on from your

43:35

friend of mine, James Peart, who was

43:37

asking for our favorite anime slash manga,

43:39

and the one I was

43:41

gonna bring up, I'm not, you know me,

43:43

I'm very unfamiliar with that area of art,

43:47

but Perfect Blue is one that I've also seen. Oh,

43:50

you've seen Perfect Blue? Yeah, I wanna watch it

43:52

again. I watched it a few years ago, again,

43:54

the one recommended by my friends who were into

43:56

that stuff, and they were like, watch Perfect Blue,

43:59

I think you'll enjoy it. Oh, holy hell, I

44:01

was not expecting this. I love how dark

44:03

perfect blue is I kind of wanted to

44:05

end a little bit earlier when it's even

44:07

darker because the very end is a positive

44:09

note and I quite liked How absolutely like

44:11

need or need out it was towards the end

44:13

Yeah, but I think it can because obviously was

44:16

made in the 90s So it's a different comment

44:18

on celebrity that was more referencing the time. Whereas

44:20

now and I don't know I feel like you

44:22

could do a Almost

44:24

like a more tragic end to it Yeah, but yeah,

44:27

either way perfect blue is awesome My answer for the

44:29

question of like what's my favorite movie and I've

44:31

seen recently is it links to the next

44:33

question We got from Chris small z12 if

44:35

I'm who says what was the last movie

44:37

that made you cry slash tear up? Mine

44:39

was Guardians of the galaxy 3 and don't

44:41

have movie. I properly Balled

44:44

my eyes out at and that

44:46

I adorn is my favorite movie from the last

44:48

few years is after some which I know I

44:50

have I need to watch watch you told me

44:52

it was quite like a depression over and over

44:55

again Truly depressing but one of the most empathetic

44:57

and movies I think I've ever seen you know

44:59

we're talking about fatherhood a lot at the start

45:01

of this and the

45:04

things this has to say about that

45:06

relationship between a You

45:09

know a child and their parents But specifically

45:11

I guess a father in this because it's

45:13

not kind of about that like old-school like

45:16

masculine sort of trope of suppressing

45:19

y'all Failings I

45:21

suppose hi humanity out of the like yeah,

45:24

he's got like he's like a mentally ill

45:26

guy He's like very depressed, but he's not

45:28

getting the help and he's like it's a

45:31

period piece I think it's setting either the early 2000s or the early

45:33

90s He's

45:35

kind of trying to shield his daughter away

45:37

from his issues in the

45:40

while at the same time Not realizing like the effect

45:42

that's kind of having on her is about them being

45:44

away on holiday It is honestly one of the most

45:46

moving things I've ever seen I want to see the

45:48

pictures Me my girlfriend man. We

45:51

came out afterwards and I was crying

45:53

during it And I kind of you know got

45:55

myself together afterwards and we were in the in

45:57

the lobby and she was like that's giving me

45:59

a minute And then she burst out crying. So

46:01

I gave her a cuddle and I burst out crying.

46:03

And I've seen it a couple times since, man. It

46:05

just never fails. Paul Meckle is the lead of it.

46:07

And he's just, oh, he does so much. We saw

46:09

a little bit of it. It's like a slow film,

46:11

but it's one of those where in the moment you

46:13

might be thinking, oh, it's not really hitting me. But

46:16

when you get to the end and you get

46:18

the culmination of everything, it just, oh, man, it

46:20

hit me like a truck. Sitting like the mask.

46:22

Because the thing is, overall, I've kind of, this

46:24

is a weird phrase, but I've just got out

46:26

of movies. Overall, they're not doing it for me

46:28

as a medium that much anymore. And

46:31

then every now and then, at the minute, I'm watching lots

46:33

of stuff, because I'm just sort of, I tried to do

46:35

a whole thing where I was trying to drive a wedge

46:38

into my game calendar, because I was like, I'm finished, Dragon's

46:40

Dog went to you. I finished Final Fantasy VII Rebirth. I

46:43

really hate Rise of the Roaning, so I'm done with

46:45

that game. But I'm done for now. And so I'll

46:47

play Stellar Blade, and that kind of feels like the

46:49

rest of the year is kind of done. So I

46:51

wanted to free as much space up as possible, which

46:54

will be back into movies, because they're less time intensive.

46:56

And I've been getting through them. But in terms of,

46:59

it's kind of made me cry. I can't think of

47:01

anything, really. I mean, I'm a big baller of movies,

47:03

but not much has grabbed me recently. But

47:05

thematically, certain things for After Sun, certain elements

47:07

of a movie

47:10

will just get me anyway. If it's an old

47:12

person struggling, it reminds me of when I was

47:14

a kid, I was raised by my grandparents a

47:16

lot. So if it's an old person just trying to

47:18

get by, that'll get me in a way, or anything

47:20

to do with animals, or whatever. Certain thematics will get

47:22

me. But yeah, I don't have anyone at the top

47:24

of my head. I was going back to my letterbox,

47:26

and so little I've banked on letterbox. It's

47:28

the Super Mario Brothers movie. It's one of the most recent

47:30

things on there. That's cool. I thought there's

47:33

bits of Godzilla minus one that were very hot hitting. Oh,

47:35

I'm really excited to watch that, actually. Have you not seen

47:37

it? No, I missed it. It's cinemas, and I'm waiting. I

47:39

might be on Fyot now, but it's going to be drops.

47:41

I'm going to give it a go. I know, I know.

47:43

There's been a big Godzilla guy, but the buzz around that

47:45

made me want to grab hold. Oh, minus

47:47

one. We want the crack is enough.

47:49

Minus one's phenomenal. Also, Shin Godzilla. There's

47:52

two strands to Godzilla. You've got Goofy doing

47:54

the drop kicks. Juplex and Kong Godzilla. Not

47:56

bothered about him, but he's big fun. And

47:59

got rid of it. wrenching comments on Japan rebuilding

48:01

itself after World War two Godzilla Yeah, which

48:03

is like the original Shin Godzilla and the

48:05

new one and oh my

48:07

god watch watch minus one and watch Shin I

48:10

will I will maybe not Shin. Oh she's so

48:12

good if minus one is convinces me I will

48:14

definitely Shin I'm gonna go on about it now

48:16

But yeah, it's about the the governmental response to

48:18

Godzilla There's no main really there's no main character

48:20

in Shin You kind of just follow different wings

48:22

of the government as they try to contain the

48:24

message and it's kind of about like Japan's

48:27

pride and I can't we admit that we actually

48:29

need help and like trying to go through it and take

48:31

that idea of like I mean, it'll mean a lot more to

48:33

people who are actually from Japan, obviously And but

48:35

in terms of like a for my set a cultural

48:38

assumption of the decorum and the honor and the general

48:40

way that Japan Calls itself which I love about that

48:42

country But when that's fractured how does

48:44

how do they deal with that? And

48:46

like having to admit it kind of thing and it's like

48:48

I love Shin Godzilla man That's better. Oh,

48:50

what a movie better than Godzilla versus Kong

48:52

then. Uh, yeah. Yeah being

48:56

Pivoting it to something moving calm heavily. You got

48:58

very good. Very good Pivoting it is something a

49:00

bit less heavy and KB asks how

49:02

many holes does a normal straw have

49:04

one two or none? I'm saying none,

49:06

right because if you put a hole

49:08

in a straw, it doesn't work

49:10

You know that you've messed up or he means

49:12

a factory ready straw No, I know But

49:15

I want to mean is if you would say it

49:17

in like a sentence if you say oh no I've

49:19

got a hole in my straw true. It

49:22

implies that it's broken Nobody every straw has a hole in

49:24

it. I thought makes it a straw it

49:26

does But how many one one just one I I

49:28

would agree if I if I had to like live

49:30

in the reality where it has a hole It's got

49:32

one hole I would say it's not what

49:34

I had one I get the whole Perception

49:36

like you spin it around is that two

49:39

holes and it depends on your I don't

49:41

know perception of reality But it's one one

49:43

one tunnel. There's one tunnel. That's exactly it.

49:45

There's one time. I'll have two holes It's

49:48

one of those but it's got a different function

49:50

to a straw. That's true But I'm mmm if

49:52

you say if you say a straw has two

49:55

holes right? Yes, and you block one off It's

49:57

no longer a straw. It doesn't work

50:00

It has a hole you just blocked it to

50:02

complete that sentence you have to block a

50:04

hole therefore there are two You did as

50:06

well. Yeah, it's two holes. No, it's none.

50:08

None at all. HB Bunkraff says hello legends

50:10

I like to pay my adult beverages to

50:12

my video games such as drinking sake while

50:14

playing Yakuza Oh dragon, do you have any

50:16

specific food or drink pairings for game? Um,

50:19

I used to do the big Call of Duty loving

50:22

every year Which I didn't do when Modern Warfare 3

50:24

came out because it reviewed so badly and you were

50:26

like it's not worth it Yes, or whatever, but I

50:28

always loved and either doing take-off food, but

50:30

mainly a ton of donuts a big tray of

50:32

Krispy Kreme's and On Call of

50:34

Duty launch weekend. I'll do the Doritos

50:36

I'll not do Monster Energy because I'm too much

50:38

of a fan, but I'll do the Pepsi Mac

50:40

I'll do this snack foods I'll get some donuts

50:42

in I'll do the the big stupid slobbery weekend

50:44

that they want us to do Yes, and I'll

50:46

get the double XP and I'll do all that

50:48

BS and I didn't do it last year But

50:50

I know I had been doing that every year

50:52

for a long time. Oh, man I never do

50:54

it for games. We've talked about it before that

50:56

I don't want my hands to be grubby Well,

50:58

I'm touching the control. No don't play it at the

51:00

same time. No, no, no, no Oh, it's a life hack

51:03

get get a pack of lemon wipes bring them

51:05

in the living room lemon wipes. Yeah Wipe,

51:08

my hands smell like lemon. That's a nice smell. They

51:10

also don't smell too much like lemon, but you get

51:12

different ones But those like those wet wipes. Yeah, that's

51:14

a life hack for me. I'm not gonna go back

51:16

and forward to the kitchen Makes sense. Yeah, I'm not

51:18

a huge. I'm not a huge lemon guy I don't

51:20

like putting lemon on my fish and chips either I

51:23

can go back and forth but in terms of

51:25

a cleanliness now smell. It's alright. It's The

51:28

grub yeah, but he's

51:30

already gone wrong I think if I'm eating with it because

51:32

I just don't I'm gonna be getting hands-on with a snack

51:34

side No, but the thing is it's like I do this

51:36

a lot with movies and television But

51:39

that's because I can sit back and start relax so

51:41

when I was watching madmen had a

51:44

few whiskies and stuff while watching it

51:46

made a few and Italian sandwiches while

51:48

I was watching the Sopranos and

51:51

I remember getting into white Russians After watching big Lebowski

51:53

exactly a bow dressing gown and everything I'm going back

51:55

to two in peace at the moment and last night

51:57

we did the season two finale. So we got a

51:59

donut sink and what have you to

52:01

pair it with that. The one

52:03

time I tried to do it

52:06

with a game was Monster Energy

52:08

with Death Stranding's PS5

52:10

edition. But the issue

52:12

with that, Scott Telford, is they took the

52:15

branding out of that version. So he

52:17

wasn't even drinking Monster in it, so I felt betrayed,

52:19

because I got it all in to match it up

52:21

with Sam Bridges. And they took the Monster

52:24

out of it, and I thought, now I'll just drink

52:26

a Monster. Yeah, I remember trying to get into Monster

52:28

because it is on everything. That logo is everywhere. And

52:30

I love UFC, but I don't watch it that much.

52:32

But I used to watch more of it. And I

52:34

remember the Monster Energy logo being everywhere, and I was

52:36

like, this is the cool beverage. Yeah, yeah. And then

52:38

you try it, and it's like, oh. I do like

52:40

the Monster. I don't get it often. Very rare that

52:42

I get a regular Monster. But I like the Monster.

52:45

It's like a lemonade version. It's like a summer

52:48

one. Very good when it's warm. I don't even

52:50

know the different ones. I had the green can.

52:52

I get that there's Monster aficionados out there going

52:54

large. There's like 20 of them. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

52:56

But I don't know. is

52:59

because I don't like cold coffee. So when

53:01

everyone's only ice coffee craze in the summer,

53:03

I need to go get an energy drink.

53:06

I want to make you a really good iced coffee. Well, the

53:08

issue is I don't like the taste of coffee. You know what

53:10

I mean? Yeah, you got a weird thing with it. Yeah, I

53:12

like the milk. Just three milk. It

53:15

tastes like I had a coffee last

53:17

night. Coffee,

53:19

I know this is probably how it's supposed to.

53:21

So you drink coffee every day? Yeah, I know. But

53:24

it's got loads of caramel in it. It's got loads

53:26

of syrup. And it just hides

53:28

it better when it's hot, when it's cold.

53:31

I'm thinking why would I drink this over any other

53:33

cold drink that exists? Well, no, you can do the

53:35

thing you just said there about masking the taste or

53:37

whatever. You do that with iced coffee as well, same

53:39

thing. It punctures in a different way. It's kind of

53:41

like, I love the taste of hot tea, but I

53:43

don't like cold teas either because... No, but cold tea's

53:45

not a thing. Why is it iced

53:47

tea? Well, I guess

53:50

I was thinking tea that's gone cold.

53:52

But like, yeah, I don't know. No?

53:55

I feel like you're missing out on a whole world of deliciousness.

53:58

Oh, I absolutely am. I just... It

54:00

tastes of cigarettes to me. It tastes exactly

54:02

like cigarettes. Regular, the hot coffee does more for

54:05

me. What an old- I thought it was an

54:07

air-full really. I mean it tastes like it. Like

54:09

I'm like you know, it just has the similar

54:11

order, the smoking it's... It puts me right off.

54:13

Not that I even smoke, but you know. Me

54:16

neither, but it's a vibe. That's all I have

54:18

to say about that. We've got a big question

54:20

here from Driven Hartman who says, Hello from Michigan.

54:22

I had a few questions for you guys that

54:24

I've been excited to ask. First, I loved hearing

54:27

you guys talk about how exciting the current Bloodline

54:29

story is in WWE, but if you

54:31

guys had to pick a match from any era

54:33

or brand, what is your favourite wrestling match? You've

54:36

got a second party. My favourite one ever. Yeah.

54:38

We were just talking about the lunch time, but

54:40

I'm actually going to shout out the Hangman Page

54:42

versus Swerve Strickland match. I forget which pay-per-view they

54:44

fought at, but it's the one where Hangman Page

54:47

actually did drink Swerve's blood. Right. And then

54:50

spat it all over the sky, and it

54:52

was the single coolest thing I've ever seen.

54:54

I think my favourite wrestling match ever is

54:56

Ric Flair's retirement match, because

54:58

he's a terrible guy, and it's the most embarrassing

55:01

thing you've ever seen in your life. Yeah. The

55:03

only wrestling match I've watched in seven years, and it's like,

55:05

oh, no. It's

55:07

a complete crane wreck from starting to finish.

55:09

Oh, I could go. I'll tell you what.

55:12

Can I get on this little... I started

55:14

making a list of all the best matches

55:16

that I've watched this year so far, and

55:19

I thought I might... I want to shout out Sting's retirement.

55:21

That was the recent thing. I want to watch that, yeah.

55:23

Sting and Darby versus the Young Bucks. AEW was awesome. I

55:26

also would say Eddie Kingston against Bryan Danielson. That was a

55:28

revolution. Third of March, if you want a specific date. There

55:30

we go. And also, there

55:32

was a really cool one, Osprey versus Tequesta. That

55:34

was also a revolution. It's... Well,

55:36

Osprey versus kind of Skate Tequesta. They'd

55:39

never worked with each other before, and you would never

55:41

know it. Oh, right, yeah. They would just do a

55:43

phenomenal together. Like, two of the best wrestlers in

55:46

the world, on the earth right now. I love that

55:48

you genuinely didn't know that question was

55:50

coming, yet you had a... I

55:52

got a list. Full of pointed lists of

55:54

dates and times in every... I never did

55:56

it before, but I was always like, every

55:58

week I'm watching wrestling. and it was a

56:00

stupid shuffling joke. I'm not gonna, and I'm watching so

56:03

much wrestling, I might as well start making a diary

56:05

of the ones that stand out, so I started doing

56:07

that. Then I forgot about it, and I've missed two

56:09

weeks, but I've got the ones before then. I can't

56:11

remember them in particular, because I've been so long since

56:13

I watched wrestling, but I used to have the video

56:15

tape of WWF TLC matches. That's kind of how I

56:17

got into wrestling, you know, watching Edging Christian and the

56:20

Hardy Boys, and the Dudley Boys

56:22

as well, just getting into those matches, but

56:24

I wouldn't know how we would even find

56:26

that these days. The second half, unless you

56:28

got something else. No, no, I was gonna go on and on about

56:30

TLC matches. Carry on. The

56:32

second half of Draven's question is, and also, it

56:34

was super cool hearing you guys shout out Hot

56:37

Mulligan. They're my favorite band, and they're from only

56:39

30 minutes away from me. What's your guys' favorite

56:41

song by them, and do you guys have any

56:43

local bands from your area that you would suggest?

56:45

I'm into lots of different genres, so any kind

56:47

is welcome. Congrats to Scott on becoming a dad,

56:49

and I wish you all the best. So Hot

56:52

Mulligan's your band? I know them, because

56:54

you have them on. I couldn't tell you, I'm going

56:56

on them on Spotify, and I love Equipped

56:58

Sunglasses, which is their number one song. But

57:00

other than that, I just like that album.

57:02

I think my favorite one is, it's the

57:04

second track of their newest album. I'm gonna

57:07

get it up right now. It's called, It's

57:09

a Family Movie, She Hates Her Dad. I

57:11

like that they're great hooky chorus. But in

57:13

terms of local bands, there's a couple that

57:15

comes to mind for me. One is a

57:17

band called Martha. If you Google Martha DIY,

57:19

they'll come up. Their biggest hit is Ice

57:22

Cream and Sunscreen. They're very

57:24

local to us. Not

57:27

on the level of a green

57:29

day or anything like that, but definitely

57:31

worth listening to. I'm going to

57:33

be listening to their most recent album On the

57:36

Way Into Work Today. They are excellent. There is

57:38

a punk album, punk, sorry, and

57:41

nearby called Mouse's. They've only got one album

57:43

out so far, but they're incredible. And

57:46

I guess the biggest one from this

57:48

area is Sam Fender, probably. Yeah. I

57:51

can take or leave it sometimes, but 17 Going

57:54

Under is one of the best songs I've

57:56

ever heard of. Yeah, man. What's, oh God, I haven't listened to that

57:58

Fender album in a while. Stephen Graham

58:00

in the video. Oh yeah, what is that?

58:02

The one that's all about his dad and then

58:04

that about his dad. Yeah, that's the theme. That

58:06

video gets me. Oh, what is that called? That

58:08

whole kind of portrayal of that relationship and that

58:10

whole video gets me. I can't remember what that

58:12

song's called. But yeah, I never think about where

58:14

bands are from. I think it's because Nine Times

58:16

Out of Ten, it's just like a Spotify playlist

58:19

or whatever. But there is a absolutely, I'm gonna

58:21

swallow that, effing cool synth band called Pensacola Mist

58:23

that are from the Northeast or whatever. I was

58:25

trying to find a specific place in the Northeast,

58:27

but I know that they're from the Northeast of England.

58:30

And just some of the best vocally-driven synthwave that

58:32

you can find. Nice. Just beautiful vibes.

58:34

I was amazed that they were from around here. Yeah. But

58:37

yeah, I thought they were called Pepsi Cola Mist. Right. But

58:39

it's Pensacola, P-N-S-A-C-O-L-A Mist. Nice, man. It's called Spit of

58:41

You that, Em. Yeah, that's the name you were talking

58:44

about. I mean, you put Stephen Graham in anything and

58:46

I will cry. Dude doesn't miss, he's the best. He

58:48

never missed. Absolute best, right. We've got a couple more

58:50

before we end this part of the episode. Can I

58:53

do? And these are centered around

58:55

life. Might as well finish this with life.

58:57

I do like that. And we started with

58:59

life. This is from Jana Tiri. So sorry

59:02

if I got your name pronunciation wrong there.

59:04

I'm gonna do that to everyone throughout this

59:06

entire two-part series. And who asks, your favorite

59:08

routines in your daily lives could be anything.

59:11

And Harry Pollard asks, what are your unexpected

59:13

tips for good life slash mental health? Hope

59:15

you're both doing good. So essentially, anything small,

59:17

like what's your favorite routine in the day

59:20

or the week or whatever? The routine stuff,

59:23

as me and you say all the time when

59:25

we're in between recordings, we're horrendous at planning anything

59:27

because we are way too improvisational and impulsive and

59:29

be like, we should talk about this. Oh, actually

59:31

this, we should talk about this thing. And then

59:33

we should record this and then we should take

59:35

that whatever. So I don't necessarily, I can't think

59:37

of too many routines. I'm weird as

59:39

I grew up, I kind of hated routines. I didn't

59:42

like the idea that every week I would do the

59:44

same thing at all. Cause

59:46

I just didn't like that feeling. I didn't like that my

59:48

life would have that much of a structure to it. And

59:51

I just wanted to be more improvisational. There are things

59:53

that repeat. Like I used to swim two times a

59:55

week and that would be like a Tuesday and a Friday.

59:58

And I did that for like two years or whatever. but and the

1:00:00

last couple years but um yeah I

1:00:03

don't have too many like daily routines I

1:00:05

can I can do I'll use to routine

1:00:07

stuff and I'll talk about like general well-being

1:00:09

yeah but yeah I don't feel like I

1:00:11

have many routines kind of the opposite I

1:00:13

think I realized during University especially that I

1:00:15

need a solid routine otherwise I just lose

1:00:17

my mind I like knowing that

1:00:20

I've got this to do here right on track

1:00:22

he's been focused a little bit and I treat

1:00:24

myself to some routines during the week I'm bad

1:00:26

at keeping a daily one right but every Sunday

1:00:28

I like to go down to the market at

1:00:31

Newcastle and get and food from

1:00:33

this place called I think it's fat

1:00:35

panda bing sensational a Chinese rap you

1:00:37

can get from there it's a lovely

1:00:39

breakfast meal so I treat myself that

1:00:41

on Sundays and the

1:00:43

again down the key side there's like this

1:00:45

little pier like dilapidated pier and I like

1:00:47

having a walk down to there just have

1:00:49

a look at it right clearly old mind

1:00:52

and honestly I never feel better

1:00:54

than when I've done my skincare on a morning right

1:00:56

okay if I do like me full skincare routine I

1:00:58

feel like I've set myself up well for the day

1:01:00

I'm just rolling out of bed and going straight at

1:01:02

work I feel like I'm there's something not clicking our

1:01:04

minds like there anything to do with that where it's

1:01:06

like like cleaning a cleaning of the house cleaning of

1:01:08

a room or whatever I'll do that when I'm ready

1:01:10

right I don't like the it's the first thing I

1:01:12

have to do I'm like no I want to do

1:01:14

a few levels of this I'll do two hours of

1:01:16

this story I'll get there I'll do it in a

1:01:18

bit I remember there was something I don't know what

1:01:20

the specific game was but mean you were talking about

1:01:22

something like of an evening and you were saying I can't

1:01:24

do that I've got to clean the flat yeah and I

1:01:26

would have been like man do the game

1:01:28

thing and clean I'll always do it later and my

1:01:30

wife's always like later when when's

1:01:32

latest I'm just like but give me a minute and

1:01:35

then if you give me the time I'll get there

1:01:37

like if I if it's a Friday night then I'll

1:01:39

do the stuff on like a Saturday evening or something

1:01:41

or whatever it is I just I always prioritize myself

1:01:44

all the time I totally get that you know absolutely

1:01:46

a good way to live if that makes rings not

1:01:48

the boss of me well it's interesting that you say

1:01:50

that because going off Harry's question which was you know

1:01:52

an expected tips for a good life in mental health

1:01:55

hope you doing okay Josh and one if

1:01:57

I had any tips for good mental health like Please

1:02:00

give me them. I want them. I don't know, they need

1:02:03

to give me them. I am the receptacle. But I only

1:02:05

know that for me. It is

1:02:07

that thing of being tidy. If I do that first,

1:02:09

again I kind of feel like my life's together for

1:02:11

that day. It's true. But put it off and go

1:02:13

straight to a game. Part of me is thinking,

1:02:15

I haven't done this, I haven't done that. And I

1:02:17

can't enjoy it in the same way but that's just the way I'm

1:02:19

like. No, I guess people are the

1:02:21

exact opposite way. Not necessarily. I will say

1:02:23

like, yeah, I'm not going to let something get too gross. I hate food mess.

1:02:26

So like there's a certain level of that where I'm like, oh, I'll put this thing off

1:02:28

or whatever. But I'm not putting it

1:02:30

off to a degree where it's that noticeable. It's

1:02:32

just like the little things you no need to

1:02:34

do. Like I said, I'll always prioritize myself. For

1:02:37

me, the mental health stuff, like you've got to

1:02:39

prioritize yourself. One of the things that I completely

1:02:41

lost my way with in the run-up to having

1:02:43

a kid is being able to prioritize myself. Because

1:02:45

it was just thinking about kids to have attending classes, trying

1:02:47

to sort all this work stuff out. Like trying to make

1:02:49

sure that the section is going to be okay without me.

1:02:51

You kind of stuff like that. It was every waking moment

1:02:53

of every day for a solid month. And I had the

1:02:55

point where I went to see a GP, I went to

1:02:57

see a doctor because I did have

1:02:59

sharp pains over my heart, which were a

1:03:01

very bad feeling. And thankfully, quote unquote, it

1:03:03

was just like adrenaline spiking for a few

1:03:06

days in a row where the GP was

1:03:08

like, you're okay. But at the

1:03:10

same time, like then, since

1:03:12

then, that was only a few weeks ago, I did

1:03:14

sort of take more of a step back or meet

1:03:16

things out and prioritize yourself. Like take a minute to

1:03:18

maybe go to the pub by yourself and get some

1:03:21

food or something. Or like go for a walk by

1:03:23

yourself or whatever. But like,

1:03:25

to me, the main thing for the mental health stuff,

1:03:27

I feel really bad when my diet's bad. And I

1:03:30

know that's fundamentally linked on it because I

1:03:32

love getting more analytical about like mental health.

1:03:34

Like because it is such an unknown and

1:03:36

you can't spiral. And I do it all

1:03:38

the time. And the more you can give

1:03:40

me specifics and be like, oh, it's because

1:03:42

your blood sugar is low. Oh, it's because your

1:03:44

brain's producing too much of this chemical. And

1:03:47

forgive you this, it will rebalance it. I'm like, sick. Give

1:03:50

me that. Like, like figure me out. Give me the because we're

1:03:52

just a machine. Like give me the thing. And

1:03:54

so like I like that side of it. So like I

1:03:56

always feel really bad if I've had like too much phosphate,

1:03:58

too much takeout, too much buzz. Farty stuff

1:04:01

in a row. I feel like it sits on me, and

1:04:03

I don't have the energy I don't wake up refreshed I

1:04:05

don't wake up ready to go where it's like if I've

1:04:07

had the fruits the salads I'm walking I'm swimming like I

1:04:09

can quickly stay better I wake up ready to go in a

1:04:11

way that I just don't have a bad food I

1:04:14

totally get that man like I have a

1:04:16

very complicated relationship with food Where it's like

1:04:18

that's that's always the dream right then I

1:04:20

just my brain goes now. It's just easy

1:04:22

to do this Like

1:04:25

I always want to get there I

1:04:28

always want to be able to think about it, and then

1:04:30

do it in that way I think you mentioned something

1:04:32

really important there about like

1:04:34

taking yourself out to places You know I

1:04:36

think it's not exactly a hidden life

1:04:38

tip or anything like that But something that I really

1:04:40

value is being able to do stuff on my own

1:04:42

I love going to the cinema I love independence love

1:04:44

go to gigs of my own love go to eat

1:04:46

on my own like If you

1:04:49

want to go with people obviously that is

1:04:51

amazing I don't feel like I guess my

1:04:53

one tip And I don't have many

1:04:55

of them is to like don't feel like you need someone

1:04:57

else to do the stuff you love you can Do them

1:04:59

all on your own and trust me you'll have a great

1:05:01

time nine times out. It's one Lie

1:05:04

or one misconception that like 90s media early 2000s

1:05:06

media taught you It's that you need to go

1:05:08

to the cinema as a group Yeah, you need

1:05:10

to like do everything as a group like there

1:05:13

was no prioritizing the individual back then and

1:05:15

because it wasn't cool And you are the loser

1:05:17

by himself like whatever like they go go

1:05:19

to a pub by yourself get like waited on

1:05:22

to a degree Get some lovely food prioritize yourself.

1:05:24

It's lush use their free Wi-Fi to go online.

1:05:26

It's a lovely little afternoon It really is man.

1:05:28

That's cinema one especially I see people online getting

1:05:30

caught up about our people might look at me

1:05:32

no one cares no I know it's a difficult

1:05:35

mental hurdle to get over like my girlfriend just

1:05:37

recently did it for the first time as well

1:05:39

I understand that but once you do it once

1:05:41

it'll unlock it Hopefully a whole new world come

1:05:43

to cinema by yourself like I thought that was

1:05:45

a little treat because I swapped my Wednesday

1:05:48

for a Saturday I work Saturdays and take

1:05:50

Wednesday's off and so on a way I love

1:05:52

being off during the week everyone also does it work. It's hilarious. I love

1:05:54

it and Going the cinema

1:05:57

by myself cinemas mostly empty. I can go like

1:05:59

someone like that and get like the

1:06:01

fried chicken bits and the nachos and I can

1:06:04

just have a feast to myself and watch a

1:06:06

movie. My favourite treat, Dave, is taking a morning

1:06:08

or a day off work, going to the cinema

1:06:10

at about 11 or 12 in

1:06:12

the morning and just having that freedom to

1:06:14

be on my own. There's about five

1:06:16

of the people on the screen and there's no

1:06:18

screaming kids, no one running around, no one on

1:06:21

their phones, and I'm watching like Spider-Man No Way

1:06:23

Home and having a great time. Scott Tilford! You

1:06:25

said Man and Web Ronda. Hey man, what's Man

1:06:27

and Web you tonight? That was amazing. We're gonna

1:06:29

round out this first episode with a question specifically

1:06:31

for you. This is from Mark Langley who says,

1:06:33

hey, I was once stood in front of Scott

1:06:35

at an alter bridge gig. Get it. He

1:06:38

was with his partner, so I didn't bother him. And what

1:06:40

did, which is his, slash your favourite alter bridge album? Blackbird

1:06:42

holds a special place in my heart, the

1:06:44

one we top, despite very strong efforts. Also,

1:06:47

Tremonti fan. And James Snipe also says, question

1:06:49

for Scott, what is your favourite alter bridge

1:06:51

album? I almost reflexively went F

1:06:53

year when they said I'm an alter bridge. I

1:06:55

love Tremonti, I just stop myself getting tattoos. Yeah,

1:06:58

Mark Tremonti, the best guitarist on the planet.

1:07:00

The Tremonti album's absolutely phenomenal. Just really good

1:07:02

hard rock stuff, all the riffs, all the

1:07:04

song compositions, I adore Tremonti. Firstly,

1:07:07

anyone who ever sees me come say hi, like if

1:07:09

you want to, that's lovely. I'm happy to talk to

1:07:11

anybody. Sometimes too

1:07:14

much if they can't get away. For

1:07:16

all the, each album has its

1:07:18

benefits. I think AB3 is

1:07:20

massively overlooked. And that's the big concept album.

1:07:22

It's the one that singer Miles Kennedy did

1:07:24

when he got diagnosed with tinnitus. And he was

1:07:26

like, oh, is my singing, is everything over?

1:07:28

Because I can't, you know, I can't hear

1:07:30

as well, is that the whole thing? And then

1:07:33

coming back out of that, AB3 is just this

1:07:35

great, it's the only concept album they have,

1:07:37

but this great concept album about like a

1:07:39

lost soul finding their way back. And it's like

1:07:41

super abstract, but the compositions are so good.

1:07:43

And Word Soccer and Their Wings is

1:07:45

like maybe their single biggest masterpiece. Just

1:07:47

this great bit where like Miles Kennedy,

1:07:49

the singer as an individual is more

1:07:51

atheistic or agnostic. Mark Tremonti is more

1:07:53

of a believer. And their whole song

1:07:55

is just a conversation between a believer

1:07:57

and a non-believer. And then the, Chorus

1:08:00

is just like well neither of us really know

1:08:02

but we'll only find out at the end and

1:08:04

I just I just love that I think it's

1:08:06

such a beautifully put together song It's instrumentally incredibly

1:08:08

complex and like so hard to play but it's

1:08:10

really cool. Um, so that's a v3 Um,

1:08:13

I think I'd go for us. Um, this

1:08:15

is such an indulgent topic. No, this is

1:08:17

the point It's a it's more or less

1:08:20

a Scott Talbot podcast this we start on

1:08:22

fatherhood and on alter bridge your two big

1:08:24

I know by other children. I am yeah

1:08:26

forest is like their masterpiece as an album

1:08:28

I love a B3 with forest is like

1:08:30

the big meaty thing. It's the one them Whether

1:08:33

it's the album Sorry a B3 is the album

1:08:35

that took them into arenas because that album has

1:08:37

this song isolation on it Which was the first

1:08:39

one that was in the charts for like three

1:08:41

months solid Whatever for us though is them at

1:08:44

the absolute apex of everything Yeah, just some of

1:08:46

the most incredible vocal takes on mouths as part

1:08:48

incredible riffs, etc And then for

1:08:50

us if you've not heard all the bridge if your

1:08:52

only association with all the bridge is metal ingus Cuz

1:08:54

that was edges theme song. I was just about to

1:08:56

say I have never heard I've

1:08:58

never listened to alter bridge. Sorry, but I know

1:09:00

they did edges theme. Yes, which rocks. Yes Oh,

1:09:02

maybe they're the best band ever that's true.

1:09:04

But also that's one of their worst songs

1:09:06

Nah, I can't believe the grand scheme of

1:09:08

things. They did so much better than that

1:09:11

song. I like metal ingus it's fine, but

1:09:13

um, they Exponentially orders

1:09:15

of magnitude above that like I can't sing that

1:09:17

bands praises enough But anyone who's into remotely rocky

1:09:19

stuff, yeah stick for us on and just bask

1:09:21

in that album We'd be listening to that a

1:09:24

lot while you're off there I guess I'm thinking

1:09:26

about all that kind of stuff in terms of

1:09:28

like what do you how do you reduce the

1:09:30

kids to? Music taste I mean, we listen to

1:09:33

a big variety of stuff like it's almost like a meme

1:09:35

how much I love 2000s rock but

1:09:37

I listen to everything from country to

1:09:39

synthwave to spoken word raps whatever it

1:09:41

is And I look forward

1:09:43

to this like making sure that like

1:09:45

my spawn is into music as much as I am

1:09:48

Well Scott outfit, that's all for episode one

1:09:51

So to you we'll cover food will

1:09:53

cover a bit more industry stuff. We're

1:09:56

gonna talk way more about music hobbies

1:09:58

television and Japan and

1:10:00

biscuits so hopefully you'll come back next week I assume.

1:10:02

Maybe this is just how we do this. Yeah

1:10:05

it's been really nice we're gonna do it all again

1:10:07

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