1:59

the go out and make your own music and

2:02

can create your magic and really proud

2:04

of how so many people embrace it

2:06

and i really dig the angle but he's really smart

2:08

too because i say you're in a w

2:10

fan be just was dynamite this is what you do right

2:12

vote of a sudden the matt hardy ethan page stuff

2:14

starts develop on that show on that was fun

2:16

to go the internet you google i always thought that maybe

2:19

us that wasn't the you tube shows to think we should try

2:21

and get more narratives in those two things to

2:23

try and create like in our like

2:25

i have occurred environment that kind of all

2:27

ties together so you're have to watch

2:29

it

2:29

but if you do you get little links here in the

2:32

i think so and and i also think

2:34

a society changes this technology changes

2:37

so many people don't

2:38

even watched on television it's a lot of his

2:40

stream the in this day and age right and you do

2:42

see clip so the television shows are i can

2:44

be great but the supplemental stuff like the

2:46

elevation dark they're great platforms

2:49

to use the even build stuff or to experiment

2:51

and trot trust up out i think it's almost like it's

2:53

almost like a house show of in in some ways where you

2:55

know it's like there's not total

2:57

criticism of you on it but you can

2:59

experiment you know we're on tv like

3:02

a viewed go through after on tv some

3:04

dumb twitter

3:05

is toxic

3:06

occasionally it ain't me

3:09

you go through and you search like have any

3:11

search of quote matt hardy and go through and sea

3:13

view it as a cd the last twenty

3:15

tweets intervene because they're pretty they can

3:17

be pretty brutal but there's a lot of people are also great as well

3:20

but once again that's that's where we live in

3:22

socal at the end of the day i think it's

3:24

cool the aid of using so many different avenues

3:26

so many different platforms to tell stories and long

3:28

as to do that and i think this is kind of like were

3:30

wrestling will eventually and going because

3:33

one day there's not going to be tvs everything's

3:35

gonna be streaming when it's all said and done lives where

3:37

these going it's more centralized on itself

3:40

worth anything else so i think it's a good

3:42

process to start training viewers

3:44

to watch other things if you have a company and

3:46

you have a programming there's on tv wachovia

3:48

of of organs are usually watch it if you have a program

3:50

this on like a streaming service watch that so

3:53

i think it's a it's it's a good

3:54

exercise for wrestling fans to drink valerie

3:56

i agree i also hope for the opening the door to what we

3:59

can do with all this

3:59

that's at our fingertips. My favourite thing about

4:02

what you've done, no, I've enjoyed the whole

4:04

thing, but the, we'll call it the first

4:06

peak, is when you guys were training

4:08

Stokely Hathaway for his match. I just have

4:10

to say this, the fact that Matt Hart,

4:12

you've done everything in wrestling, let's not pretend otherwise, right? You've been

4:15

here, you've been there, you know, revolutionised

4:17

matches, but the fact you're still happy to

4:19

not take yourself seriously at all

4:22

in those skits, I genuinely, is my favourite stuff,

4:24

and I watch it and it actually makes me

4:26

feel happy, genuinely. There was, there

4:29

was so

4:29

much fun stuff. We shot that in

4:32

about 40 minutes. Really? We got into burn

4:34

through some stuff, and I know they

4:36

were going to put out an extended cut, but they said like the one

4:39

minute cut of it was so good. We

4:41

don't even want to change it, because there was some other

4:43

hilarious footage in there, and like once again, Ethan

4:46

Page has an amazing sense of humour too, Stokely

4:48

obviously does, and Isaiah has come so

4:51

far, I am so proud of him. The way the Moan stuff has got

4:53

over, we will go out on the ramp and we're doing

4:55

our entrance and he'll say, you know, give me a hoo, yeah,

4:57

and the whole crowd will do it, you know, and

4:59

for a guy that was just, you know, like a member of a

5:01

tag team for a party, he's got over himself

5:04

during this, so big props to him. But

5:07

that whole bit was the perfect,

5:09

you could tell it was like, Hook

5:11

got me in that hole, he wasn't even locked in, I tapped out. So

5:14

obviously, I was wanted Stokely in

5:16

this match, you know, and me out there training

5:18

him, I give him a body something, say, I think we need

5:20

a couple more, and he says, why do you say

5:22

he's a suplex master, we're doing body stuff,

5:25

you say tomato, I say tomato, you know,

5:27

it's all the same. But those things were so much

5:29

fun to do, and they were so entertaining, and

5:32

we're gonna have a good one, I don't know when you're gonna air

5:34

this, but this Wednesday, the match is actually happening.

5:37

Tonight on Rampage, we sound the contract, Ethan

5:39

Page and Hook, and I put the contract together

5:41

personally,

5:41

and Ethan is, trust

5:43

me so much, is his best friend, his

5:45

best mate, that he didn't even read it. He

5:48

doesn't need to, does he? You know, not at all, I mean, I

5:50

put some stuff in there that is gonna make the match really,

5:52

really fun and entertaining.

5:54

And we might have some stakes in there this Wednesday

5:56

on Dynamite whenever it is. I mean, we'll have to find out

5:58

by watching Dynamite. Wednesday, you say

6:00

wherever it is, on Fight TV in the UK. Yeah,

6:03

on Fight TV, that's right, yeah. Before we go

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7:17

I do want to ask you a quick question because you brought it up. Like

7:20

for the last year I've been advocating, I call it goofy

7:22

wrestling. It's a silly term I came up with. It's just when people

7:24

don't take themselves too seriously. You mentioned

7:27

it with the private party guys, especially, or you know what I mean.

7:29

Do you think that is something that

7:31

sort of more young and up become wrestlers? Because you know, a lot

7:34

of people like, no, I've got to be serious, dude. I've got to be

7:36

like, you know, look at me. I'm a fighter, I'm a

7:38

wrestler. It was actually the people I kind of gravid

7:40

towards now are the people that come out and do silly

7:42

stuff. I'm like, where did that come from? Like the moan,

7:45

when he first did that, I think it was on the basketball game. I

7:47

was like, I honestly looked around like, did he

7:49

just moan? And obviously,

7:51

you know, people will listen to you because you've got experience.

7:54

Do you, are you trying to not push that on people?

7:56

But like get it in people's heads. No, man, you've got this whole,

7:58

you know, palette you can paint.

7:59

with go crazy. Well after I got to

8:02

know Isaiah well I knew his personality and I said

8:04

dude I think you should lean into this you know

8:06

like you do you kind of portray this guy's a young

8:08

guy who goes out hits the club likes

8:10

to party I said like think about stuff that

8:12

you would do that to make people laugh or to entertain

8:15

them or whatever and you know he started coming up with ideas

8:18

like that and he's really got it down he's

8:20

also got down the expressions there's

8:22

there's a lot of times with people if they're

8:24

in a moment they're emotion you almost

8:26

like drag it

8:29

out a little bit so the crowd can understand and take

8:31

it all in he has gotten so good at that over the

8:33

last couple years something I really take my hat off to

8:35

him but I think there's Thompson

8:37

wrestling if you're the top angle working for the title

8:39

and it's a very serious thing you stay serious absolutely

8:42

but there's also a lot of times where you can just entertain people

8:44

because at the end of the day what we're doing is pro wrestling

8:46

we throw guys into the ropes and they come back off the

8:48

ropes so like we should you can't take yourself

8:50

too serious because if you do that

8:53

you end up getting lost you lose the plot you

8:55

know so it's one of the things there's a time to be serious

8:57

there's a time to be dramatic and there's also time to entertain

9:00

people and just go out and cut up and have fun I'm

9:03

gonna ask you the stereotypical question to end but

9:05

it's different with you because you have

9:06

actually you could retire tomorrow and be like what else am

9:08

I gonna do like what else would you like to do though

9:11

in professional wrestling with the platform that you have bestowed

9:13

upon you

9:14

I

9:16

think if everything

9:18

works out and if Jeff comes back I would like to have

9:20

one hell of a final tag team run right you know I

9:22

think that would be a big deal to really help kind of

9:25

cement our legacy and as you said I don't

9:27

have to go every time the young bucks come in there go oh there he

9:29

is the living legend he's worth 10 digits

9:31

he doesn't even have to be here but he says to come on his own accord

9:34

and it's

9:37

one of those things man where I just enjoy being around

9:39

it and while I'm physically able

9:42

to do it I like doing it it's

9:44

like my passion it's like you know they say that if you can find

9:46

a job that you love and you

9:48

would go do it for free it's almost like you're not

9:50

working so that's kind of how pro wrestling is to me obviously

9:53

it's grinding it's very tough physically travel

9:55

can be tough but man I love it so much

9:58

and while I can do it I want to do it and I can also I

10:00

also take a lot of pride in giving back and

10:02

helping younger guys whoever that may be Yeah,

10:04

how is your back now by the way as we mentioned that is

10:07

it okay now because you went through a hell of a time Man,

10:09

yeah, I mean it's still my hips are

10:11

still pretty beat up I've actually talked to some guys

10:13

that are the one guy today, you know Maybe doing some stem cell

10:15

treatment later on and there are

10:17

actually can they can scope a little

10:19

bit of stuff out Sometimes you grab so much scar

10:21

tissue because that's what it is I mean, I did those leg

10:24

drops on that heart sW to be ring For

10:26

for 10 days straight then four days off when we started,

10:29

you know from 1997 on so

10:31

so I beat my body up a lot Back

10:33

in those days. I wish old experienced veteran

10:35

Matt could tell young Matt Hey Just like don't do it every

10:37

single night kid get a finisher that

10:39

you don't jump off the top rope, you know But it

10:42

is what it is. The undertaker told me one time Pro

10:45

wrestling is a very cruel business He

10:47

said because when you're young and healthy you can go out and you

10:49

can do any everything and anything and you'll do

10:51

it over But you won't smarten

10:54

up and work smart until your body gets too hurt to

10:56

be able to do it that way It really is right.

10:58

Yeah, you know the biggest problem with this.

11:01

Let's say there's a young wrestler watching right now It's gonna

11:03

ignore that advice totally and he'll learn

11:05

it in 25 30 years as well. But you

11:07

know a young wrestler It's okay. I did too and

11:10

everybody else does everybody does it? That's why I

11:12

made my finishes spear You see nice knees.

11:14

I'm just not sure

11:14

I did it because people Chuck Goldberg about our lean into

11:16

it then Matt Hardy You're my hero.

11:19

It's always good seeing you man intellectual man Well,

11:21

you know, I try like share subscribe

11:23

and obviously keep an eye on him.

11:26

What's he gonna

11:27

do?