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So today I am in Malibu,

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California looking down on the Pacific

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Coast Highway and the Pacific Ocean

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and that shares house the the

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actress and singer share is just

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my lap. This

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is the British photographer new Mathew Simmons

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when the most. To friends he's July.

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And. Know days the same project I. He.

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Waits for a publication and ask him

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to photograph some good the event or

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a celebrity. or he gets entrepreneurial and

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track them down himself. I

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like and my photography style to eight.

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Like a wildlife photographer, I like to

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not be seen and kind of let

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the action unfolds you know, as it

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work as it would in the wilds.

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basically. Like

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on the day we reached him he was on

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the hunt for a Hollywood legend so share All

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going well. if she comes out she won't know

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I'm I'm that photograph. July

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is what most people would call a

1:11

pop around so it's a role those

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kind of looks down on by people.

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I like to call myself a photo

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journalist now. July.

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Is always on call for the next job and

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two days after the shooting of Hundred Your Mana

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believes he got a call from The Sun, one

1:26

of the biggest tabloid newspapers in the Uk, asking

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him to hop on a plane for Central America.

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He jumped at the chance of for an adventure

1:34

but having absolutely no prior knowledge about the place

1:36

he was going to shoot photos I've heard of

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believe but I had no idea where it was.

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If you have to put a picture of a

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global map in front of make I wouldn't be

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able to put up going on it back then.

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After a brief stop in Houston, July arrived

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in believes in the first of June, four

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days after the shooting. He

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had no idea what to expect. One thing

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was for sure. Though. He.

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Was going to have a really hard time getting

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a photo of Jasmine Harden in the wild. Side

2:07

Effects live happily Central Prison last site

2:09

and the news tonight as I see

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will have to spend quite a few

2:13

more fuel rods. It's a fair use

2:15

for Marla by fish a marine for

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a swell waiting prison fund up with

2:19

her to The Bleeds Central Prison in

2:22

Huntsville where she spending her first night

2:24

behind bars. It. Was starting

2:26

to look like the billion dollar Ashcroft

2:28

machine might not have as much influence

2:30

as we thought. Computer

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immediately reached in engines

2:42

de. Dah doo Doo!

2:52

A. Guy like July isn't typically called the jet

2:54

off to countries in Central America. But.

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You can see why hear. A

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glamorous woman, a member of perhaps

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the most powerful family and bullies

3:03

and apparently shot and killed a

3:05

senior bullies in cop under mysterious

3:07

circumstances. As the two of them were

3:09

alone on appear very late at night. A

3:12

man had died. A. Much loved and

3:14

prominent member of the community. And

3:16

a woman a Canadian property developer who

3:18

the press and also been calling a

3:20

socialite. Was. Still in custody. But.

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The case was otherwise developing as the bullies

3:25

and public would expected to. Powerful,

3:28

Interests as they do. Were.

3:30

Coming to this might woman's rescue. I

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mean. Giving. A senior counsel

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god for smith to deal with

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a man's that the by negligence

3:39

see is a criminal matter of

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that Nebo. This is Hippo.

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You don't develop a reporter on the ground pointing

3:45

out the jazz and Harden didn't get just any

3:47

old defense attorney. She got a baller.

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Godfrey Smith dispatched by her partner's powerful

3:53

family so we saw the guns com

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and those are vetted there for lack

3:57

of better friends. This

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resume his illustrious. Prior to going into

4:02

private practice, he was a member of

4:04

parliament and served as both believes his

4:06

attorney General and the Minister of Foreign

4:08

Affairs. He's as big a lawyer as

4:11

you can find a million and he

4:13

had some backup. Two and a form

4:15

of a powerhouse Uk lawyer named Edwards

4:17

is Gerald. That

4:19

Zero has defended numerous extremely high

4:21

profile descendants in the Uk and

4:23

is known especially for helping on

4:25

death felony cases throughout the Commonwealth.

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So people at that point believe.

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What the at it as fascinating

4:32

to see and atop see whoop

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through and a charge on she

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was never finity into. Except.

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That didn't happen. Doesn't. Harden

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wasn't just released. Authorities

4:45

charged with manslaughter by negligence and

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to the surprise of many aren't

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was denied bail. Which. Meant that

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she would be staying at least for a

4:54

while inside a bullies and sell. Was.

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Makes you wonder. What? Exactly what

4:59

her fancy lawyers doing here. Because

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when I arrived four days after the shooting,

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she was still in jail. And

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not just any jail. After five

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nights in the San Pedro town, locked up

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in a cell with no mattress or she

5:12

slept on concrete and used an empty soft

5:14

drink bottles pillow. Pardon was ordered by a

5:16

judge to move to the mainland. To

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the infamous Believes Central Prison no more

5:21

commonly as had a bill. A Place

5:23

so Notorious was once featured in the

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Netflix documentary Inside the World's Toughest Prisons.

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I know what you call this the sand in

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and. Watching this guy

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they employ in this phase I mean

5:36

so the bad enough of this is

5:38

terrifying. Could make often padlocks on info.

5:40

it's It's like something out of a

5:42

movie. It's

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a very rough plays. an evil

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President and Eighty Nineties was truly

5:48

horrific, with reports that the prison

5:50

couldn't afford to feed inmates. Since.

5:53

Then it's been taken over by the Colby Foundation.

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And then geo this done real work to try and

5:58

improve thing when I just came on. The

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Treadmill I know myself and ah

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Crc from our the What River

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are seen as well. sit on

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the decision for and some places

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it's of a focus. You catch

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that this former inmate featured on

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that Netflix show said the Ashcroft

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Rehabilitation Center. For Jasmine,

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hardened had been locked up in a series prison that

6:19

was paid for in part. By. Your children's

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grandfather teaches you about socialization. It's easy

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about an anger management. My point of

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this is seeking it helped me a

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third house. So this must be how

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you spin or years on remarks you

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have. More than a third of the

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inmates have had a bill or on

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remand. which means they're still waiting for

6:39

a trial. There. Are people there.

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Have been waiting to three even six years

6:43

with no trial for all the talk of

6:45

reform. how you're still not a place you

6:47

want to be with one to three guards

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for one hundred prisoners and for prisoners assigned

6:52

to each tiny. So in two thousand twenty

6:54

an inmate was shot and killed my guards

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after a group of twenty a tried to

6:58

escape and another was killed falling a ride

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the next day. Jan

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I couldn't believe this was where

7:05

Jasmine harden and been sent to

7:07

prison. with disgusting as both just

7:09

hanging off of kind of electricity

7:11

wires looking over the prison it's

7:13

a really grim see, it's a

7:15

very hot muggy humid country and

7:17

yeah that's no way that any

7:19

kind of a feel yeah good

7:21

toilets in in these places Now

7:24

she was wrapping it policy within

7:26

that. He's not kidding.

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Brimmer. Had a heart and was in

7:30

solitary in a cell that supposedly had a

7:33

bucket, no toilet, Typically.

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Don't know how evil? Well, He's been

7:37

there many times. Get

7:39

the are horror stories coming out from

7:41

there. Have been there was this one

7:43

case where. One of

7:45

the prisoners was ripped nut

7:47

know what spies and appeared

7:49

and is the prison officers

7:51

allowed this to happen. The

7:53

young man was given trouble.

7:56

And. He was placed in the intense in

7:58

a place in a sense. With

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a with it wouldn't believe it would

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hope that he would be ripped and

8:05

he was ripped several times. A

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goes without saying that this is Not the kind

8:14

of place a woman like Jasmine could ever imagine

8:16

to find herself. And the idea

8:18

that this wealthy ex pats. Partner. One

8:20

of the country's most powerful man could

8:22

land their well thousand a thing anyone

8:25

and bullies would have expected either. So.

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What was going on? Jan.

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I spent his first few days and blues

8:32

waiting around wondering just that. Doesn't.

8:34

Was locked up and no one really understood

8:36

why. Should. A powerful lawyer and

8:38

backers with massive resources. Also.

8:41

The police weren't even alleging that this was a murder. Police.

8:44

Department of Public Prosecutions had decided

8:46

to charge Harden with manslaughter by

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negligence. Basically. Agreeing with what

8:50

Harden was alleged to have center caution same and.

8:52

The. To mass killing was a terrible accident.

8:55

But prosecutors. Will be arguing

8:57

we assume also one that could have

8:59

been prevented. Is. A charge

9:01

the typically carries a fine of maybe ten

9:04

thousand us dollars and rarely results in jail

9:06

time. Commissioner of Police

9:08

test. The Williams insists that contrary to

9:10

what some members of the public may

9:13

believe the accused has received no special

9:15

treatment we were going to do on

9:17

the citizens as impartial as the first

9:20

of it's him and though that the

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with with the news for said seasons

9:24

avoids the first. Where.

9:31

The police responding to public sentiment going

9:33

above and beyond show they were treating

9:35

this very unusual prisoner the same as

9:37

any other. While.

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Something was off. Finally,

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on June ninth, more than a week

9:44

after entering prison, Jasmine Harden was granted

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bail. Thirty. Thousand Million Dollars which

9:49

is fifteen thousand U S. A

9:51

huge amount my local standards, but basically

9:53

pocket change if you're in the atmosphere

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of the Ask Ross. Said

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I was there outside the prison when she got out. Along

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with hip Alito and numerous other

10:02

journalists at ago maybe a police

10:05

officers surrounding have covering her with

10:07

a blanket as he I met

10:09

so we couldn't get a clean

10:11

picture. Alpha Amazing! The security guards

10:14

are competing. Amazon Forest also ending

10:16

off and it's kind of shops

10:18

made one of their own has

10:20

been shot and killed by this

10:23

woman for the gods and prison

10:25

officers are helping You know I

10:27

thought when she left the prison.

10:30

A kind of yeah make I

10:32

do the walk of shame. The

10:34

optics of this were streams again

10:37

it certainly looked very much like

10:39

this rich born or was getting

10:41

special treatment. It was so confusing.

10:43

it was so shocking because v

10:45

newer ones your detained for shooting

10:47

a police officer gonna to prefer

10:50

be so that's how they behaved

10:52

as physically imposing. I was so

10:54

confused as to why a bunch

10:56

of security officers were not only

10:58

physically protecting her but. Physically smoothing

11:01

her from the combo. And

11:03

we we have seen her before. We know

11:05

how she looks like so why would he

11:08

do that? There

11:13

was a car waiting for a black

11:16

and Cb with the driver she's heard

11:18

inside and whisked away during his partner

11:20

tried their best. Guy

11:23

driving like a race car driver

11:26

is absolutely tearing up the street

11:28

overtaking cause undertake a t when

11:30

like refining my flight and that

11:33

the road laws and believe they

11:35

don't seem to exist it seems

11:37

Zola. And it's

11:40

nice police banished from site

11:42

which we want. To worried about

11:44

because we knew that between seventy and.

11:47

And. Five pm the next day. Jasmine have

11:49

to check into this prison. This

11:53

was one of the conditions of or bail. The. Jasmine

11:55

had to check into police station every day.

11:58

In a typical case, this would be

12:00

the same. The closest to recuse home

12:02

what's for jasmine would be San Pedro

12:04

on hamburgers. Key. But. The

12:06

judge here made a peculiar choice. He

12:08

required Jasmine to check in daily and

12:10

a station and sending Marcio a ninety

12:12

minute drive inland from Billy's city. In

12:15

the jungle near the Guatemalan border. And

12:17

Blue City is another hour and a half. Remember his

12:19

key? You. Almost couldn't take a

12:21

further point from her home. And.

12:23

Her family. They.

12:27

Just lifted. I believe that back. hope

12:29

it can remember. This was June twenty

12:31

twenty one smack in the middle the

12:33

pandemic that while we would that nobody

12:35

was allowed to be out before the

12:38

I was a five am we were

12:40

sasser the a hotel in beliefs city.

12:42

In our cars waiting for the flock

12:45

to tons of five am so we

12:47

could start driving A was that? settle

12:49

down and we matched together and minutes

12:51

and Jasmine showed up at pretty much

12:53

bang on seven am. And

12:56

see like Jasmine was basically hiding out. Staying.

12:58

Away from the media in the middle of nowhere. Like.

13:01

See other kind of protection a lot of money can

13:03

buy. I. Don't think you're

13:05

expecting to see us that that early. That's

13:08

why she she chose together so I'll share.

13:10

Rife with an armed guards and I in

13:12

a blacked out B M W x five

13:14

the this god had a pistol on his

13:17

head just we didn't talk to the media

13:19

you and in the fi face and head

13:21

down with an effort to turn off minutes

13:24

came out jumps in in this car with

13:26

the gods and against they went off like

13:28

brief lightning you know couldn't down the follow

13:30

him and and they despised into the day.

13:36

Before the you know Ashcroft

13:38

has got a protective custody

13:40

but has up on whether

13:42

he protected. The on

13:44

god worried us. We were worried that if

13:46

we did get off on this follow. Yeah.

13:49

What's stopping them from? Yeah,

13:51

pulling a sober somewhere shooting up in

13:53

the middle of nowhere? Believe? basically. We.

13:56

Were thinking at that point it looks like

13:58

jasmine it getting away with. The know

14:00

we released and shooting this guy

14:03

was spent stopping. Them

14:05

from getting us if we kind of rubbed

14:07

as a mirror on what you know it's

14:10

it's Rain Forest, Bow Burnside, Nasa. With that

14:12

if a lot of jungle we could easily

14:14

banish. What?

14:18

Didn't quite track here was a

14:20

dozen could have also hidden out

14:22

just fine and her luxury condo

14:24

behind walls in San Pedro where

14:26

her partner and more importantly, her

14:28

four year old children lives. That

14:30

was her home. Instead pierce

14:32

he was living many hours away in

14:34

the jungle and anchored there. Because.

14:37

of her daily seconds. It's. One

14:39

of the first things as to billie know after

14:41

hearing the jazz and was granted bail. I.

14:43

Sat in in in our. Be

14:46

a hearing and I south as

14:48

of the door cause it away

14:50

sons weren't given that to certain.

14:52

Six. This. Is accidents are

14:55

some I think someone is as to

14:57

report as the single day. In

14:59

in most cases they will be ever monday

15:01

were a Friday when not in that every

15:03

single day. And it was her

15:05

lawyer who agreed to this right? Yes

15:08

they ask us lawyer. That's Godfrey

15:10

Smith, the lawyer provided by the Ask

15:12

Cross. If I squint I

15:14

can see how from the police's feel the

15:16

this Canadian with piles of money might be

15:18

a flight risk. But that's honestly

15:21

a stretch. Jasmine. Had very

15:23

young kids and considering the charge, she could

15:25

certainly expect to get out this whole mess

15:27

with a fine. This. Is no

15:29

reason to blow up your life and

15:32

abandoned your kids over this charge. But.

15:34

This pattern. That's where things settled for

15:36

quite awhile. Every. Day for weeks

15:38

on end. Jasmine would check in at the San

15:41

Ignacio Police Station and was likely to go on

15:43

this way until or trial is set. According

15:45

to him Alito that could take a while.

15:48

The. Wheels of Justice turned very

15:50

slowly. And Billy's the word.

15:52

sauce. And the worst justice

15:54

system. To. Not go together in

15:56

a sentence. i never went

15:59

embassies know Some

16:01

attorneys would tell you that it's unnecessarily sluggish

16:04

and spitefully so. We don't

16:06

have a lot of madish rates on justices or Supreme Court

16:08

justices. There's a huge

16:10

backlog of cases. It gets to the

16:12

point that the wheels of Justice Syrian

16:14

believe that just sluggish or

16:16

slow is just doesn't move. And at

16:18

that point, the British papers kind of

16:21

lost a little bit of interest in

16:23

it. Nothing new was coming out

16:25

of the story. You know, as far as

16:27

we knew, Jasmine was just going to be

16:29

checking into this prison for the next, you

16:31

know, however many days it

16:33

was going to be. I think I left on

16:36

either June 12 or June 13. It's

16:41

an amazing story. You know, I said that to the

16:43

journalist as we're flying out and back

16:45

to Los Angeles. I said, there's way more to

16:47

come from this story. We're going to be back.

16:49

I guarantee we are going to be back. And

16:52

he's like, you know, don't hold your breath. You

16:55

know, a week later, we're on a plane heading straight

16:57

back to Belize. Jedi's

17:01

right. There is way more

17:03

to come from this story. That's

17:05

after the break. Thank

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17:30

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exactly how Doug Guide took me

17:35

into the depths of a bizarre

17:37

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17:57

Up to this point, we've been seeing the story

17:59

largely from the outside. outside from Hippolyto,

18:01

Jedi, and the media. But

18:03

now we're going to flip things around and

18:06

hear from those on the inside, people

18:08

who are close to Jasmine and

18:10

from Jasmine Harten. Because it felt

18:12

like the only way to truly get to the bottom of this

18:14

was to ask her myself. In

18:17

fact, I've spoken with Jasmine quite a lot

18:20

now. And from our early conversations, it's clear

18:22

that the story that was unfolding in the

18:24

papers, scandalous though it was, was far

18:27

from the whole story. I'm

18:30

fine talking about absolutely anything. I'll

18:32

answer any questions. I'll tell

18:34

you everything. I'm ready. Gloves are off.

18:37

Jail truth's gone. I need

18:39

the truth to come out. Jasmine

18:41

says that she sensed things weren't exactly

18:44

right quite early on. I

18:46

spent initially two weeks at Hattieville, Belize

18:48

Central Prison. And if I

18:50

have the best lawyers and the biggest

18:52

family backing me, how is that

18:55

possible that I'm the only one? No one else goes

18:57

to jail for that charge. If

19:01

from the outside it appeared Jasmine was

19:03

getting special treatment, this was not

19:05

her impression from the inside. I

19:07

was the only one with a cell that didn't have a

19:09

sink and a working toilet. They put

19:11

me in a PC, like protective custody cell, where

19:13

I was not allowed to speak to any of

19:15

the girls. I was not allowed out of my

19:18

cell. So when all the other girls are going

19:20

to watch movies and having yard time, I

19:22

had to stay in my cell. Lest

19:24

you think Jasmine is exaggerating about the awful

19:27

conditions, a U.S. State Department human

19:29

rights report that included a look at prison

19:31

conditions in Belize talked about

19:33

exactly this, the arbitrary

19:35

use of isolation in small,

19:38

dark, poorly ventilated rooms that

19:40

often were, quote, "'infested with

19:42

snakes, scorpions and roaches.'" I

19:45

didn't have a book. I wasn't allowed phone

19:47

calls. I didn't have a fan. They

19:50

kept my lights on 24 hours a day while

19:52

I was sleeping. They would like bang on the gates

19:55

just to irritate me. They would tell

19:57

me almost daily, "'Why haven't you killed yourself

19:59

yet?'" It's okay to cry, just go

20:01

ahead, you should kill yourself by now. Jasmine

20:03

says that it felt to her like a

20:05

kind of psychological warfare. They put

20:08

on the news that was talking

20:10

to Henry Jibet's family, and

20:12

I had to listen to them crying. Like,

20:14

I was slowly starting to feel myself lose

20:17

control of my emotions, and I was definitely

20:19

very upset many

20:21

nights. I couldn't listen to three hours straight

20:23

every single night of how

20:25

horrible I am for that accident. For

20:31

days after the shooting, Jasmine's mom,

20:33

Candice Castiglione, had been unable to

20:35

contact her daughter. The

20:37

phone didn't ring, and Andrew wasn't picking up either.

20:40

Finally, about a week after her daughter's

20:42

arrest, she reached Jasmine, first through email,

20:44

and then eventually by phone. And

20:46

it was immediately clear to her that things

20:49

were not okay. She

20:51

said to me, Mommy, I

20:53

need you. You might

20:55

get hurt, and I won't blame you if

20:57

you don't come. But,

20:59

Mom, I'm in trouble. That's

21:02

all she said. And I said, you

21:04

know what? I don't care.

21:06

I'm coming. I'm

21:08

coming. From her home in

21:10

Kingston, a city in southeastern Ontario, in

21:13

Canada. And I literally walked out my

21:16

door, left my apartment, my

21:18

car, my business, walked

21:20

right out the door. And then, when

21:23

I finally got here, I found her in the middle

21:25

of a jungle. There was two men at the gate

21:28

to keep her in. There was supposed to

21:30

be a car coming every day to take her in

21:32

to sign in, because she doesn't sign in. Instant jail.

21:34

That daily sign-in, those were the

21:37

stakes. If Jasmine missed

21:39

it even once, she'd be remanded

21:41

back to prison immediately. She

21:43

told me, I'm not safe. I'm not safe here. And

21:45

I kept saying, I won't phone Andrew. Tell him to get you out

21:47

of there. And after a week, she'd

21:50

say the same thing. I said, well, what did

21:52

Andrew say? He's not responding. Candace,

21:54

like everyone else, assumed that Jasmine's

21:56

partner, the father of her children,

21:58

would be... standing by her side.

22:02

That was not the reality. He

22:04

instructed my nanny immediately the day after

22:06

the accident, she was to go in

22:09

and take all of my belongings

22:11

out of the house. So all of my things were

22:13

packed up the very next day. So

22:16

like why, because I was wondering, why can't

22:18

I come home? Why am I put in

22:20

San Ignacio? So when I got my bail,

22:23

Andrew wouldn't tell me where I was going. I

22:25

had to hear at prison on Love FM that

22:28

they're sending me to San Ignacio, which

22:30

is by the Guatemalan border, the furthest

22:32

point possible from my children. So

22:35

yeah, the distant check-in, the remote

22:37

jungle hideout, not her idea.

22:40

And I didn't understand this because I

22:43

have security at San Pedro. Why can't

22:45

I just come home, be with my

22:47

children after this traumatic event? On

22:50

heel, at home, with security, with my kids,

22:52

with my son. I had a cell phone

22:54

he gave me that only made calls to

22:56

him. I could call him

22:58

and I could call my dad. Those were the only two numbers

23:00

that would work. 911 didn't

23:02

even work. This explains why Candice had

23:04

been unable to contact her daughter. Then

23:07

I started to see, okay,

23:10

all of a sudden the security guard called

23:13

Andrew, this is what Andrew claimed, and

23:15

says to him, Jasmine tried to

23:17

buy weed from me last night. And

23:19

he called me and said, Jasmine, that's a breach.

23:21

It sounded like I was being recorded actually. And

23:24

he said, that's a breach of your bail conditions

23:26

to try to purchase drugs. And

23:28

I said, Andrew, we all know I don't smoke

23:30

weed. This is ridiculous. What are you talking about? And

23:34

then the next call was, I

23:36

heard that you broke curfew last night to go

23:38

get a pizza. And he goes, breaking

23:40

curfew is part of your bail condition. From

23:44

Jasmine's perspective, Andrew is acting

23:46

really, really weird. And then I

23:48

tried to sign into my Netflix, because we

23:50

have obviously shared Netflix, and

23:53

he changed the password. He goes, oh, yeah, I changed the

23:55

password. You don't have to get your own Netflix. To

24:00

this point, Jasmine was confused, but didn't

24:02

really doubt that Andrew and his various

24:04

security guards weren't just protecting her. Suddenly,

24:08

she was seeing things very differently. She

24:10

had a realization. And I start

24:12

to realize I put the dots together and figure

24:15

it out. I'm

24:17

literally sitting in a trap. They've

24:24

never been on my side. Now I'm

24:26

in a jungle house and the only people

24:28

that can pick me up and take me

24:30

anywhere are employees of Ashcrapp. And I'm literally

24:32

trapped in this home and I

24:34

can't go anywhere. We

24:37

asked Andrew to explain the jungle hideout, which

24:39

we know belongs to some wealthy friends of

24:41

the family. His response, via

24:43

a lawyer, was that the remoteness of

24:45

the location was deliberate to keep Jasmine

24:48

outside the media spotlight, and that

24:50

she was moved there for her own safety. He

24:52

called the house a, quote, luxury accommodation

24:54

on a hilltop overlooking the jungle. Yeah,

24:57

it was definitely a beautiful home.

25:00

It was a beautiful prison. The

25:03

worst part of this period at the jungle hideout,

25:05

according to Jasmine, was that the drivers were not

25:07

in her control and they

25:09

became unreliable, causing her

25:11

to risk missing the daily check-in. Sometimes

25:14

the car just didn't come and Jasmine had

25:16

to scramble for help. Remember,

25:18

if she missed even a single sign-in, she'd

25:21

be remanded immediately back to Hattieville. So

25:23

I called my friend and I said, get here now, rent

25:26

a car, please come pick me up, this is

25:28

where I am. I finally got a hold of

25:30

her because Andrew had brought me my computer by

25:32

this point, and I thought, what's up on my

25:34

computer and I can find some people on my

25:36

iPad. She's like, I have no

25:38

security guard to take me to the police station,

25:40

so what am I going to do? This

25:43

is a friend she got a hold of. Her name

25:45

is Rashida, and she got there with a car as

25:47

quickly as she could. We put her in the vehicle,

25:51

and then as we're driving off the

25:53

property, we get completely road

25:55

blocked by the guy that's in charge of the

25:57

house. I told the security

25:59

guard. We need to get out

26:01

of here. She needs to sign in. Otherwise,

26:03

she's going back to jail. And he said,

26:05

I've been told to restrain you even by

26:08

four. You are not allowed to

26:10

leave the property. I said, excuse me. He said,

26:12

the only way you're allowed to leave the property

26:14

is with your paid driver from Andrew. And

26:17

I said, well, he's supposed to be here this morning at

26:19

10. It's now 2.30. She

26:21

had to sign in by four at the latest.

26:23

And the security stood in front of the

26:26

car, and she's like, please move your car

26:28

so we can pass. And he wouldn't, so

26:30

I was in the passenger side.

26:33

And I jumped on the gas, and I

26:35

pulled the wheel, and I went around him.

26:39

We got out, and we ended up in the

26:41

police station. She signed in just in time. And

26:43

that's when I contacted my brother, and I said,

26:45

you need to get me out of this house.

26:50

The way I look at the situation, yes.

26:54

She was kept against her will. Andrew

26:56

was the one that was keeping her dear

26:58

and didn't want her to come back on

27:00

the island. He didn't want

27:02

her to communicate with nobody. And

27:05

I believe that he was the one

27:07

that was behind that. It

27:11

was finally sinking in. Maybe

27:13

her partner, her kid's dad, didn't

27:16

have her best interest in mind after all. This

27:19

is a prison. I'm literally in a prison. Somehow,

27:23

Jasmine's family back in Canada found a

27:25

guy who was willing to break Jasmine

27:28

out for a price. My

27:30

son hired a man. I

27:33

think he was ex-military. He

27:36

broke the gate, and he got my daughter out of

27:38

there. Candace

27:42

had an idea. Once Jasmine was

27:44

out of what seemed to her like a

27:46

jungle prison, they should be proactive. Go

27:49

straight to Andrew and find out what

27:51

was going on. That's where the kids

27:53

were. After all, the only

27:55

unbreakable condition of her bail was that she

27:57

had to check in every day at the

27:59

station And if they

28:01

worked fast, she could make the trip in a day. I

28:04

said, well, there's nothing stopping me from

28:06

checking in and sending Nastio, driving to Belize

28:08

City, and then getting on a

28:10

boat to San Pedro and going to see my

28:12

kids. Remember, she hadn't been home since the

28:14

night of the shooting. Collect my things,

28:17

like my birth certificate, my jewelry, my

28:19

clothing, see my kids, you

28:21

know? So she signed

28:23

in at the police station, drove the two hours

28:25

to Belize City, hopped in a water taxi to

28:27

San Pedro, another hour and a half, and

28:30

was dropped off outside the property. This

28:32

was the 22nd of June, 25 days

28:34

after Jasmine was arrested, and exactly that

28:37

many days it turns out since she'd

28:39

been home. When

28:41

they arrived, it was not the homecoming she'd

28:43

hoped for. Why won't you let me see the

28:45

kids, Andrew? Candace was there too, and

28:48

used her phone to get the whole thing on video.

28:51

As Jasmine must have feared, her own staff had

28:53

been turned against her. When I was

28:55

greeted with a wall of security at my own house,

28:58

and Andrew refusing to speak to me, I was

29:00

blindsided. Why won't you let me see the

29:02

kids, Andrew? Why won't you let me see the

29:04

children? Why are you stopping me from being

29:06

at my house and seeing my kids, Andrew? While

29:08

Jasmine is calling out to Andrew, you can

29:10

see him in an orange t-shirt walking rapidly

29:13

away, through the kitchen of the resort's restaurant.

29:15

Let me see my children. That was

29:17

what I was walking into. I thought I'd be walking

29:19

into, like, hugs from my staff and going

29:21

into my home again. I hadn't been to my home.

29:24

I wanted to get my things, and I wasn't expecting that.

29:26

I was not going for a fight. Instead,

29:29

the resort staff ushered her off the property.

29:32

Her property. The

29:34

storming of the Alia resort was instantly all

29:36

over the internet, particularly Facebook.

29:39

Basically, as I said, the biggest news source

29:41

in Belize. And this is what

29:43

pulled Jedi back into the story. Jedi

29:45

returned on the 24th of June,

29:47

around noon, and went back to where

29:49

he knew Jasmine would inevitably be, at

29:52

the police station for sign-in. Jasmine

29:54

rolls up. She goes into

29:56

the prison to do her check-in, and

29:59

I'm waiting kind of... around the corner by the

30:01

car to get some nice clean

30:03

full-length shots of her leaving. Usually,

30:05

this daily check-in was uneventful. Took no

30:07

more than a few minutes. But it

30:10

was clear this time that something odd

30:12

was going down. And I'm waiting and

30:14

waiting and waiting. And she doesn't come

30:16

out. So what's

30:18

going on here? So

30:21

I go into the police station and she's behind

30:23

the front desk and she

30:25

tells us she has been detained.

30:29

On a new criminal charge related to the

30:31

events of the Aliyah. Assault. This

30:34

detail wasn't clear to reporters at the time and

30:36

not even to Jasmine, as you can hear. She

30:40

seemed genuinely confused as to what she

30:42

was being detained for. Assault. Common assault.

30:44

Common assault. Yeah. Very easy to assault.

30:47

Yeah, who did I assault? I found

30:49

out for much. Do you know

30:51

how many witnesses were there? And everything

30:53

was on camera. So this would be

30:55

very interesting. This is just another game.

30:57

She's giving pretty much a press conference

31:00

behind the police

31:02

desk. She kind of can't cannot

31:04

believe that they're holding her again

31:07

by alleged assault. I would go

31:09

to prison every day. This is horrible.

31:13

The worst thing ever about two

31:15

thousand minutes. This assault was alleged

31:17

by an Aliyah employee who Jasmine knew well.

31:20

An employee who had until just

31:22

weeks before worked for her, but

31:25

who in this case stepped in and asked her

31:27

former boss whose children and home were

31:29

on the property to leave. I

31:32

raised my voice and I waved my arms,

31:34

which I did. I speak with my hands.

31:36

I'm Italian. So yes, I said good distraction,

31:39

Sandra. That put me in

31:41

jail for common assault. In

31:44

the wake of this shocking new charge, it was

31:46

now crystal clear to Jasmine that she was being

31:49

iced out by nearly everyone in her former circle,

31:51

especially it seemed by Andrew. She was

31:53

now certain had turned on her almost

31:55

immediately after the shooting. Andrew's

31:58

explanation. Just in this

32:00

and other questions, but he declined an interview,

32:02

first via his father's spokesperson and later via

32:05

a lawyer. His lawyer

32:07

did reply to this specific allegation. On

32:10

the one hand, he denied that he or his

32:12

father had washed their hands of Jasmine and noted

32:14

that he provided Jasmine with the lawyer and the

32:16

jungle house. But on the other

32:18

hand, Andrew's attorney also said that it, quote,

32:20

cannot come as a surprise to anyone that

32:23

he chose to distance himself from a woman

32:25

who had inexplicably killed a much respected local

32:27

figure. This was coming almost

32:29

three years later, long after the facts of

32:32

the case had shaken out. There

32:34

was nothing inexplicable about it anymore. At

32:37

the time, though, Andrew's behavior was certainly a

32:39

surprise to Jasmine. And sure,

32:41

she could have just been paranoid, except

32:43

that certain actions spoke very loudly.

32:46

The day I went to jail, it's the same day he

32:48

started all the documents and the next day

32:50

he notified the Belize Registry Company Act

32:53

that I'm no longer a director of

32:55

these companies. Where did my share

32:57

go? The share

32:59

she's talking about were in a company called

33:01

Misty Horizons Limited, which owned the Aliyah. Candace

33:04

would later tell me that those shares should have

33:06

been worth millions. And Jasmine was

33:09

actually removed as a director on June

33:11

2nd, just five days after the shooting,

33:13

when she was in Hattieville. So

33:16

suddenly, this woman who had been living a life of

33:18

luxury, a lead investor in

33:20

Belize's fanciest new resort, had nothing.

33:24

When he gave me my personal effect,

33:27

he didn't give me everything at all. She

33:30

says that when Andrew brought her wallet, it

33:32

was missing her credit cards, bank cards, even

33:34

her Aliyah business cards. Andrew

33:36

says that he didn't remove anything from the wallet, and

33:38

we have no proof that he did. But

33:40

regardless, Jasmine was left without access to

33:43

her accounts. And without any

33:45

money, she says, she was now

33:47

in a very difficult situation. Here

33:50

she was part owner and on the board of directors

33:52

of a luxury resort, and yet

33:54

barely able to scrape together the thousand Belizean

33:56

dollars for bail on the new assault charge.

34:00

how it all looked to Hippolyto. In

34:02

one day, she was part of the Ashcroft

34:04

team. She was team Ashcroft. The following day,

34:06

she was kicked out on the court. So

34:09

they blatantly, without

34:11

any sort of respect, disowned Jasmine

34:13

Hartin could fasten the hurry. And

34:16

when the Ashcroft started distancing themselves

34:19

from Jasmine, so apparently did Godfrey

34:21

Smith, that fancy lawyer they'd put

34:23

on the case. So she chose a

34:25

lawyer of her own, Richard Bradley.

34:28

Bradley is well known and well regarded in Belize,

34:31

where people often refer to him by his nickname.

34:33

Dickey. Jasmine says she

34:36

actually wanted Dickey from the beginning when

34:38

she was first arrested and introduced to

34:40

Godfrey Smith. From day one, I said

34:42

I want Dickey because I know him to be the best

34:44

criminal defense attorney in Belize. And I had never heard of

34:46

this person, so I was trusting them. Ultimately,

34:50

she did get Dickey. She

34:53

and her family contacted me. I think

34:56

they were probably notified that the Ashcroft

34:59

arrangement would no longer continue. He

35:01

means her legal arrangement with Godfrey

35:04

Smith, the Ashcroft-appointed lawyer. So

35:06

she felt she was on her own at

35:08

a period when she was basically being re-roaded.

35:12

Jasmine is adamant that Smith stopped responding

35:14

to her and wasn't listening

35:16

to her requests, especially pushing the judge

35:18

to move her check-ins closer to her

35:20

home and kids. I've seen

35:22

emails where she's expressing this frustration to Andrew

35:24

from the Jungle House. The way

35:27

she interpreted all of this was that Smith

35:29

was not actually representing her anymore. Smith

35:31

himself and Andrew both deny this. They

35:34

agree that Andrew hired Smith and paid him,

35:36

but say that he did not stop working

35:39

on Jasmine's behalf until she hired Dickey Bradley.

35:42

As soon as Dickey dove in, he saw peculiarities

35:44

in the case. Red flags were just

35:46

flying all over. In particular,

35:48

it made no sense to him that

35:50

Jasmine was placed in such a remote

35:52

location and subjected to daily

35:55

check-ins. It is

35:57

unprecedented in my experience

35:59

that Jasmine was required to

36:01

be in San Ignacio. She

36:04

was almost banished a hundred miles from

36:07

her home. Jedi,

36:13

who had been watching closely, knew exactly what

36:16

was going on. You

36:18

know, the Ashcroft at this point pretty much

36:20

disowned Jasmine. After she approached

36:23

Andrew at the Alea with the cell phone

36:25

asking all of her questions and that kind

36:27

of stuff, it seems like they completely cut

36:29

ties with her and, you

36:31

know, she was being left to

36:33

defend herself. We'll

36:38

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36:46

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36:50

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36:54

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36:57

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36:59

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37:01

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37:03

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listening to White Devil from

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Campside Media. Charged

37:20

with manslaughter, separated from her kids, and cast out from

37:22

her home, it really seemed like Jasmine Harton had nowhere

37:24

to turn. But

37:27

in the chaos of the moment, no one

37:30

really understood what was happening. It was all so quick. The

37:34

night that Jasmine was taken

37:36

into custody, in front of Jedi and the other reporters, she was basically on

37:38

her own. This was before her new lawyer, Dickie

37:40

Bradley, arrived, but

37:43

after Godfrey Smith had left her team. So Jasmine

37:45

had no attorney there to help at all.

37:49

That's when Belizean authorities held her at the

37:52

local jail until sundown, and then

37:54

moved her from one police station to another to another, all

37:56

in the middle of the night. Still

38:00

can't believe how it all went down. One

38:03

day when she went to signing

38:06

up dissenting Nasa fully states and

38:08

she was not alone to leave.

38:10

She was the T and she

38:12

was kept a dissenting Nasa police

38:14

to said i'm secretly removed at

38:17

Nice to defend more fun police

38:19

Beatrice which is fifty miles away

38:21

from the new should. She.

38:24

Was then secret to move to the

38:26

believes. It is released. Were

38:29

already done so as put

38:31

on a boat and sent

38:33

to the some federal police station

38:35

where she was raised to additional

38:38

charges. One that's had committed

38:40

a common assault on the

38:42

other one is that they

38:44

had just remembered that when she

38:46

was dickey and. Forty.

38:48

Shooting the had formed a

38:51

small quantity of cocaine they

38:53

just remembered as many weeks

38:56

afterwards. This.

38:59

Is worth pausing for. They're. Not

39:01

saying they found cocaine when they arrested

39:03

Jasmine for assault. They're claiming they

39:06

found it the night of the shooting. Back.

39:08

In May. Now.

39:10

This cocaine wasn't mentioned in any police

39:12

report. Jasmine. Denies it, And.

39:14

Yet a month after the shooting.

39:17

After. Numerous police reports and court

39:19

filings. The cops suddenly remembered

39:21

a bag of coke. Even

39:23

if she's acquitted of these charges possession or

39:25

assault. The. Charges themselves could

39:27

be a breach of prevail

39:29

conditions. Fun condition is you're

39:31

not to be charged for

39:33

any offenses. suicide for tools

39:35

and she's dickey suggesting something

39:37

very suspicious hear. That.

39:39

This new round of accusations. It was just

39:42

an attempt to show the jasmine is broken

39:44

or bail conditions. Which. Would be a

39:46

violation. Causing. Her to be sent immediately

39:48

back to prison. But. It was

39:50

clumsy and Dickey spotted the whole. Fortunately,

39:53

the deaths of liberty son was

39:55

before she was granted to be

39:57

a can be. Censored. He could Not

39:59

People. Really Bill or Death. So.

40:02

That was an attempt to get her bounce back

40:04

to jail. It failed. But. Even

40:06

now. Doesn't. Was an hour. The woods. So.

40:09

What do think have been that

40:11

Cmd After she left the court

40:14

and some Federal in the late

40:16

afternoon somewhere between fi unfocused see

40:18

was brought back too busy assisted

40:20

by both anti against it to

40:23

the supreme court in belief system.

40:26

As hasn't arrived at the supreme court it

40:28

became clear why she was there. The.

40:30

Court had received a letter from the general

40:32

manager brand colony. That's luxury condo

40:34

complex next to a Liar or Jasmine

40:36

and and lived. So. This was

40:39

an employee and friend. Named. Frank

40:41

a bet. He's. The person

40:43

who put up dozens initial bail. And.

40:45

He apparently decided suddenly to take

40:47

that bail money back. along

40:53

with. Her mouth small.

40:57

Town. As. Was Sandra

40:59

hook you jazz and of assault? He was

41:01

an employee of Anders and another manager of

41:03

the resort that he and Jasmine had just

41:05

opened. The. Kind of guy you would send

41:07

to do this job. To. Save his boss from

41:10

having to brave the media. We. Are

41:12

standard directly with or Sandra Frank. We're

41:14

working under his instruction. He replied

41:16

only by his lawyer to the sand requests

41:18

and saying that see made her own decision

41:20

and missing her complaint. Quote. It

41:23

did not require Mr. Ashcroft to encourage her.

41:26

Either. Way this twist it was

41:28

unexpected. Jasmine was dumbstruck. I

41:31

said, you're on earth I'm not a

41:33

lawyer, but I'm pretty sure I have

41:35

the right to sufficient notice before my

41:37

bills were both. This is extremely unfair.

41:39

Forty five minutes is not sufficient notice.

41:42

And see to slow down senior as wrong

41:44

as they were bringing me there anyways. People

41:46

you know managed to get a copy of the letter

41:48

frank about filed with the court. And he run

41:51

it for us. I. Am the General

41:53

Manager of Gun Colony Resorts and Page

41:55

on Vargas. Keep Billy's on nine June

41:57

when it's in a one a pity

41:59

certain. Thousand dollars in fulfillment of

42:01

bail conditions for the release of

42:04

Jasmine. Hard to and from remand.

42:07

On. Twenty Second, Two and Twenty Twenty

42:09

one Miss Hart and appeared at Grand

42:11

caught in a resort behaving in and

42:13

this orderly and abusive manner i know

42:15

thing Miss Hart and is quite capable

42:17

of not sewing up for trial an

42:19

idea for wished to a meat as

42:21

a which wow my costs deposit. And

42:24

revoke the sort of suggestions former

42:26

General Manager and a friend. Was.

42:28

Claiming a sudden change of heart, That.

42:31

Seeing her barge into the resort to see

42:33

her kids have caused him to reconsider her

42:35

as a flight risk. Oh and also the

42:37

bail was his personal money said and he

42:39

was worried he would lose it. When.

42:42

You in court when this happens. Yes they

42:44

did. You feel that the look on his

42:46

face was that he was he wasn't doing

42:48

that of is on well. When

42:50

we signed a letter macau the reporters and as

42:52

to what was happening. And. When I

42:55

bet was lacking pass just that he

42:57

looked at her. You. Know

42:59

I'd say look at him and he

43:01

did was. Does. His heart. And

43:04

it was understood between them. She

43:06

understands what's happening. At. He has to

43:08

do it. Was. Being suggested

43:10

here is that Frank was being directed to

43:12

reclaim the bail money. Suffering.

43:15

Sincerest and he's crying Hussein, he's like thousand

43:17

and I don't want to do this. This

43:19

is not Move I said I know Frank

43:21

thought you are. You have your family to

43:23

think about is the breadwinner I said i

43:25

get it is not. You see what you

43:27

have to do. If you don't you answer.

43:30

Job and I assume. Everybody

43:32

believes. Reads: Between

43:34

the lines zero of what's happening is he A

43:36

said. And

43:40

the removal of her veil and front

43:43

of the Supreme Court this dick, he

43:45

says, is one of bullshit in violation

43:47

of policy is not. There's

43:49

a particular set of rules for how

43:52

bills revoked to protect defendants from exactly

43:54

this situation. staring down a sudden and

43:56

unavoidable returned to prison that should not

43:58

have the know. because the Supreme Court

44:01

is a court of record, they would have

44:03

to file an affidavit, file an

44:05

application to allow the

44:07

person to withdraw the bail. They would have

44:10

had to given notice to a misjudgment that

44:12

there is an application and you

44:14

would need to go and find

44:17

someone else to replace the bail. That

44:19

happens regularly in the court. You give

44:21

people notice that is the law. She

44:23

was given no notice, she was given

44:25

no document, there was no application in

44:27

writing anywhere. And this happened on a

44:29

Friday of all days. Friday at 4pm.

44:33

On Friday the system shuts down, the release

44:35

system doesn't work on Saturdays and Sundays, we

44:37

are free to go about our

44:39

business. They could have easily said to the person,

44:43

your application is approved, it will

44:45

take effect on Monday at 2

44:47

o'clock or Tuesday. So she has

44:49

time to rustle up a replacement.

44:53

None of that happened. Jasmine was not allowed

44:55

to solicit another source for her bail. She

44:58

was given no time and she was taken off to prison.

45:01

Right there on the spot, she

45:04

was sent back to prison. And Jasmine

45:06

was in a very difficult position now. Her

45:08

family seemed to have cut off all ties, so

45:10

she no longer had a way to access any

45:13

of her money. She don't know nobody here in

45:15

Belize City. People don't know much

45:17

people in the country, I believe. Her

45:20

only assistance would be to her family

45:22

and their employees and their friends. So

45:24

basically what they did was she would

45:26

have literally put her in a position

45:28

to go back to jail. But

45:31

if this was all an attempt to silence

45:33

Jasmine, to put her back behind bars for

45:35

the foreseeable future, it failed.

45:39

Because as soon as word got out that Jasmine had

45:41

been jailed again, under truly

45:43

bizarre circumstances, a

45:46

stranger stepped in, a good Samaritan,

45:48

and posted Jasmine's bail. Nobody

45:51

had any idea who this was. Again,

45:54

Dickie couldn't believe what he was seeing.

46:00

The larger mom. For a foreigner at

46:02

least ten or twenty thousand dollars who

46:04

would suffer of Florida we can get

46:06

an abort that leaves. The

46:08

bail was actually thirty thousand dollars billion and

46:10

as person had to put a house up

46:12

a surety. A mysterious stranger and

46:15

a country where everyone seemed to be

46:17

turning against her. Eventually

46:19

doesn't would discover guardian angels true

46:21

identity. But. At that moment

46:23

for release overshadowed her curiosity. Seat.

46:26

Escaped. Still, It.

46:28

Was disconcerting. And. The facts

46:31

stacked up. Or. Saidi as

46:33

hell. I'm trying to

46:35

wrap my head around. It is

46:37

is unheard of, is unprecedented. That's

46:39

all those things that have that

46:41

cannot be a coincidence. First.

46:43

They come up with a new charge weeks after

46:45

the fact. Then. They move jazz

46:47

and all over the place station to

46:49

station and finally into the supreme Court.

46:52

Or. They teller with no notice that

46:54

her bail has been revoked. And.

46:56

Then they are in a cell because the

46:59

whole thing is happening on Friday afternoon, guaranteeing

47:01

that there's not enough time for her to

47:03

find a new source of bail money. In.

47:05

all his ears practicing law, Did.

47:08

He had never seen anything like it. So.

47:11

That isn't that is a very

47:13

own use as set of incidence

47:15

to have occurred in the space

47:18

of a few always. It.

47:20

Sure seemed like somebody or some

47:22

people with a lot of power.

47:24

Were. Pulling strings. One.

47:27

Would want a thing. So what did

47:29

not is frightening that there's a possibility

47:31

of money for losing. The sisters. Are

47:35

the we have the south as is

47:37

mostly serving as has something to journalists

47:39

who was here need to look into

47:41

how does that have been. Doesn't.

47:45

Was for the moment out of prison.

47:48

But. She wasn't out of the woods. Even

47:50

with her mom by her side. There a

47:52

long way from Canada now. In

47:55

my life I've always hello.

47:58

Hello! You could always go by

48:01

the law and go to court and whatever. Like

48:03

you always use the law. But here, they

48:05

have the same laws. They

48:07

just don't obey them. Nobody does. So what does

48:10

that mean without law? You have chaos. And

48:13

that's what I see here. Anything goes.

48:19

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48:21

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48:26

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48:29

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