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Whiting Wongs with Dan Harmon and Jessica Gao

A Comedy, Society and Culture podcast

An honest conversation about race and writing between two people who think very highly of themselves. Dan Harmon and Jessica Gao know they won't solve racism in Hollywood, but they still like to talk about it. Sometimes with guests!

Recent Episodes


This week, Dan asks Jessica a Chinese question, how race played into a risky Uber ride, and a long discussion about sharks that we struggle to relate to race. Also, we discuss POC writers facing harsher scrutiny and the positives and negatives that come with diversity programs. 

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Our first ever guest, writer and actor Brittani Nichols (Transparent, Suicide Kale) joins us to talk about her experiences being the only POC in writers' rooms. Plus, we revisit Confederate and answer listener emails.

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Jessica's mom has discovered the podcast, and Jessica's horror leads to a discussion about American families vs. Chinese-American families. Jessica reveals her family's experience during the Mao regime. After some interrogation, Dan's opinion of Chinese food is revealed, and it is shocking.

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We start by discussing the bottlenecks for hiring a diverse staff and debate how struggling white writers can respond to and recognize privilege. Also, Dan and Jessica teeter on the brink of fighting but are saved by an insane Great Wall metaphor. 

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This week, we read a listener email and discuss how whitewashing is less of an issue in Asian countries as it is in the U.S. Dan gives insight on the casting choices for the Community pilot, and we talk about the decisions and arguments that lead to a diverse cast.

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