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What's up fam? Happy? Well that's good.

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Wednesday everybody. I hope you're having a

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good week, but per usual it's about

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real. Y'all are going to be so

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excited because every time I've ever said,

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welcome girl. Hey,

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thank you so much for having me. I'm so

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you're loved and appreciated by so many and

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I'm so glad we're going to get to

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have a little chat. Yes,

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I am so excited. Looking forward to it.

1:00

I can already feel like the Holy Spirit

1:02

movement and how he's just going to move

1:04

in this conversation. So I'm so excited. No,

1:06

truly. That's like the best whenever I jump

1:08

on these calls and you know, it'll be

1:10

like six minutes in, we haven't even pressed

1:12

record yet and we're already having a good

1:14

conversation. I'm like, okay, this is good. This

1:17

is really good. Yes. Well, I got to ask you

1:19

the question. I ask everyone who comes on the Well,

1:21

let's go podcast to kick us off and then we'll

1:23

just have a fun conversation. But

1:26

kick us off with the best piece of

1:28

advice that you've ever been given.

1:30

No pressure. Oh

1:32

my gosh. Oh, I

1:34

should have prepared for this because I know you ask

1:36

all your guests. And

1:40

I'm having pregnancy brain. So I'm like, oh,

1:43

that's real. Yep. Oh

1:45

my gosh. You know, the funny thing is about

1:47

pregnancy brain is I think it just stays with

1:49

you and then becomes mom brain and you just

1:52

thoughts just go. Yes. Well,

1:55

if we need to circle back and you want

1:57

to say it at the end, you can. Oh,

2:00

I can just put you on this by and

2:02

the ferry. Seen that cause your mind. Or

2:04

his first thing that comes to mind. On.

2:08

The I think it's because I'm pregnant right

2:10

now so it's going straight to be in

2:12

a mom and I would just say that.

2:15

Every child's different so don't. Tell.

2:18

When other people's. Parenting.

2:21

It's good to seek wisdom in their parenting

2:23

advice. Know that, but you know your child

2:25

best, don't know everything they need me Cause

2:27

I truly believe that God gives a sad.

2:31

Just. As mother's is to the

2:33

ordered know how to for into

2:35

our child's life even though it's

2:37

so scary that just to at

2:39

trust your own instincts ness. Not.

2:42

Depend. On the world to give you all

2:44

the answers. Know how to be a that

2:46

is honestly so dead and I'm glad we

2:48

put you in the sky Macys and everything

2:50

that comes your mind because that is so

2:52

true. I think that always so my friends.

2:55

that because. I. Used to have that

2:57

like. Anxiousness. You know about

2:59

being a mom and lights making all the

3:01

right decisions. they south of what I've heard

3:03

and the methods in the this in the

3:05

that and then it's like so stressful and

3:07

you don't wanna make their own decisions are

3:09

sauce. And then I just had this revelation

3:11

at one point that's so simple but so

3:13

profound that. I am Their

3:15

mom died and made me to be

3:18

their mom. He created need to be

3:20

their moms and he's he quit needs

3:22

to be their mom. So I have

3:24

everything and me through hand that I

3:26

need to be the best mom to

3:28

them that they can have because I

3:30

have yeah mom and so it was

3:32

is just the pressure off and I

3:34

saw this on my friends I year

3:36

their mom you're the best person for

3:38

the job, He was investors and do

3:40

the job. You're fully equipped for the

3:42

job in your your kids Yes your

3:44

situation's. Didn't look different, your life starts

3:47

going to let difference, we always talk

3:49

about that, let our kids because they

3:51

say outlay. assist funny because some

3:53

be were like who i can't even imagine

3:55

you should do this or this or that

3:57

and i like the other day travel all

3:59

over world with us and it is

4:01

so nice when we have like late flights

4:03

or late nights at conferences and all this

4:06

stuff that they're able to be there and

4:08

enjoy it and you know so that works

4:10

for our lifestyle but I would never tell

4:12

somebody else hey you should keep your kid

4:14

up this late because that would be crazy

4:17

for your lifestyle so you're so right and

4:19

it's actually true too and um because you're

4:21

pregnant with your second right yes so I

4:23

have a little boy I have a little

4:25

girl Ivy she just turned

4:28

three so is it honey yeah

4:30

she'll be three in May so they're

4:32

super close they're so close yes that's

4:34

so sweet I'm so excited

4:36

I love that age gap I

4:38

was scared to do two under two and

4:41

funny story me and Hunter thought we were done

4:43

after Ivy were like no more kids one is

4:46

done but God

4:48

just works that way he said

4:50

surprise well it's cool too because

4:52

your advice is true for your

4:54

second kid like that's what really

4:56

surprised me I mean I

4:58

obviously knew they were going to be different but

5:01

just how different is really amazing you

5:03

know our whole thing here is like

5:05

live original and I think when

5:07

you have two kids you get to see

5:09

just like the beauty of originality and how

5:11

God really does knit each one in their

5:13

mother's womb to be an original you

5:17

know made in his image but in an original

5:19

person and haven is so different than honey in

5:21

every way like with the

5:23

whole sleep thing even haven just goes to

5:25

sleep on a schedule because she just does

5:27

that like we didn't and I remember the

5:29

first time like when I started putting her

5:32

down and she wouldn't cry it would be

5:34

like what like what is this you just

5:36

don't make you just go to sleep whereas honey it

5:38

would be like an hour and

5:40

a half at least of like singing reading

5:42

the book rocking doing the thing try to

5:45

put her down no try again nope like

5:47

and so it's just crazy how even every

5:49

different kid is different even your own and

5:51

so that's such a cool piece of advice

5:53

and I'm glad we started with that and

5:56

I actually I think I saw somewhere that

5:58

you said you were worried

6:00

to have any kids at all or maybe didn't

6:02

even want to have kids. So talk a little

6:04

bit about that shift in your heart from going

6:06

to not wanting to have kids to now being

6:08

pregnant with your second. Yes,

6:11

so I was, it

6:13

was in the heat of COVID

6:15

2020 and Hunter and

6:17

I had been together for a long time.

6:20

We were high school sweethearts, married right after

6:23

high school. So we wanted

6:25

time, I guess for ourselves and you think, well,

6:27

you already had time, but it's so different. Yeah.

6:30

And I think just

6:33

being in the world, seeing

6:36

everything, it was scary. I'm like,

6:38

how do you raise kids in

6:41

this world? How, and

6:44

I know now looking back, it was really

6:46

the enemy just putting that

6:48

on me. And I got

6:51

advice back then saying, you

6:53

know, if we're, if

6:56

you take the light out of the world, there's not going to be any light.

6:59

And so as a Christian,

7:01

and I had

7:03

to really pray on that because I knew

7:05

it'd be my responsibility to raise a child

7:08

in this world and how the heck do

7:10

you do that? Be a good

7:12

disciple and raise tiny disciples. And

7:15

so I just had to pray about that.

7:17

And it really, it was

7:19

God because my heart was so sure

7:21

that I didn't want kids because I

7:23

was terrified. And

7:26

so in Hunter two, we were on

7:28

the same page. And that's another cool thing about

7:30

how I feel like it just

7:32

aligned because our hearts changed at the same time.

7:34

Wow. And so

7:36

COVID happened. And so then in

7:38

the midst of chaos and

7:41

think, then you'd be like, well, no

7:43

wonder you didn't want to have kids, but we didn't

7:45

want kids before that. But then that happened. And so in

7:47

the midst of the chaos, we had such a piece about

7:50

it. And that's how I know it was from God, because

7:53

from the world, you're like, you really

7:55

shouldn't want kids now because you don't know what's going

7:58

to happen. And I don't know. just

8:00

over time, it was like this one specific month,

8:03

we were just in prayer, I was fasting about

8:05

it, and I just had this

8:07

shift, it was

8:09

just a peace. It was so unexplainable, and I'm

8:11

like, it's okay, because he,

8:13

she is gonna be his before he,

8:15

she is mine. And yes,

8:18

it's a great responsibility to raise

8:21

a tiny disciple, you could say,

8:23

but ultimately, as long as I'm

8:25

trying my best, and

8:28

praying over their life, and doing

8:30

the best I can do, God's

8:32

got them, and God's gonna take the

8:34

leap, because, and that just took pressure

8:36

off of me, and

8:39

to know that I

8:41

don't wanna take light out of the world, if I can

8:43

bring it into the world, to share more about Jesus and

8:45

all of that. And, you know, and

8:47

I'm still working through that process, me and Hunter

8:49

talk about all the time, like, okay, now every

8:51

milestone, she's two now, she's three, and

8:54

we can see she's getting older, she's getting more of

8:56

a personality, and you

8:59

think about the future, and you hope and pray

9:01

that she still loves Jesus,

9:03

and will always love Jesus. And

9:06

so those conversations are still had, like, okay, how do

9:08

we do this? How do we be

9:10

a disciple to her, and then him?

9:13

And so yeah, but ultimately, it was

9:15

just a peace we had, and we're

9:18

just trusting him to do what he wants with

9:21

their lives, and we can only pray that we're doing

9:23

the best job we can. So

9:26

good, I'm so thankful we're talking about this, because

9:29

one time in a podcast, I think I was interviewing,

9:32

or actually, maybe it was just a conversation with

9:34

my mom, I can't remember, because it was a

9:36

sisters and friends episode, and I said something along

9:38

these lines of like, you know, I

9:40

was worried to have kids, but like, your kids

9:42

will be the light of the world, and I

9:44

kinda said it similar to what you're saying, and

9:46

it's one of our most viewed reels

9:49

on Instagram from this podcast, because

9:51

so many moms struggle with this

9:53

thought of like, I'm so afraid

9:55

to raise kids in this

9:57

dark world, but as Christians, like, our

9:59

response sponsor that is this idea of like, no,

10:01

you are called to be the light of the

10:03

world. I love how you said like, I don't

10:05

want to take light out. I want to bring

10:07

light in and we need more light and more

10:10

disciples of Christ. And it's really cool because I've

10:12

been, I was reading John 17 and

10:14

I literally wish I had my Bible with me right now. Oh my

10:18

God. I literally do have a

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10:22

John. We did a, I did

10:24

a deep dive in John a

10:27

few months ago and it was so good. So good.

10:29

Oh my gosh. It's so good. If

10:32

you're listening to this podcast and you haven't read

10:34

John or haven't read it in a while, I

10:37

highly suggest going to read it again. But

10:40

John 17 is an amazing

10:42

part of scripture because it's

10:44

Jesus praying and it's Jesus praying

10:46

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now I'm coming to you, he's talking to God,

12:40

and I speak these things in the world so

12:42

that they may have my joy completed in them.

12:44

I have given them your word. The world hated

12:46

them because they are not of the world just

12:48

as I am not of the world. I'm

12:51

not praying that you take them out of

12:53

the world, but that you protect them from

12:55

the evil one. They are not of the

12:57

world just as I am not of the

12:59

world. Syncify them by your truth, your word

13:01

is the truth. And I love

13:03

that so much, and I thought about that with

13:05

our kids, that Jesus is praying, and

13:07

he's saying, he's talking about the hatred in the

13:09

world, the

13:13

bad things of the world. I'm not of this

13:15

world, all these different things. And he prays that

13:17

his joy would be completed in us. He

13:19

prays that we would know the truth, but he

13:21

also says, I'm not praying that you take them

13:24

out of the world, but that you protect them

13:26

from the evil one as they're in the world.

13:28

And then he goes on and he prays for

13:30

us to know how much the father loves us.

13:33

He prays for us, he

13:35

literally says, I pray for the generations to

13:37

come, you know, who are gonna believe this

13:39

word. And it's just like so amazing because

13:41

it's a beautiful thing as a mom and

13:44

as a dad to pray these things over

13:46

your kids. You should be praying these things

13:48

over your kid. It is scary to live

13:50

in this world, but even Jesus is saying,

13:52

as a son of God who was sent

13:54

into a world that is evil, that was

13:56

gonna hate him, God as a father had

13:58

to allow his son. And to go through

14:00

that, trusting that what his son was

14:03

going to accomplish in the world as

14:05

the light of the world is actually

14:07

going to give us the path of

14:09

eternal life. And so in the same

14:11

way, we're sent in the

14:13

world to be a light of the world

14:15

and to give people the good news of

14:17

Christ in this good news that you can

14:19

have eternal life. And I just love that

14:21

Jesus has literally prayed for us, that we

14:23

would have joined the midst of the whole

14:25

thing, that we would know the truth, that

14:27

we would know the love of God and

14:30

that we would stay in it, even though

14:32

the world's not going to understand

14:34

this, even though it's going to be hard things,

14:37

but that we would stay in it so that

14:39

we would be that light. And so I just

14:41

love that we're talking about this because I'm like,

14:43

man, it's comforting. It's so comforting because it's like

14:45

this is not like a new thing that like

14:47

people are scared

14:50

as believers to be in the world.

14:52

Jesus is literally straight up saying like,

14:55

this is a dark place. Like the evil

14:57

one is here, but his response to that

14:59

was not take us. It was

15:02

God be with us. God strengthen us. God

15:04

give us joy in the midst of it.

15:06

God give us an anchor in your truth.

15:08

God give us the understanding of

15:10

your love and God keep us here, but

15:12

protect us from the evil ones. So that's

15:14

your prayer for your children, that they would

15:17

be protected from the evil one as they're

15:19

in a world that is not going to

15:21

understand the beliefs that they have. God anchor

15:23

them in the truth, give them a joy

15:25

that's complete, help them to understand what it

15:28

means to be loved by you and help

15:30

them to understand that you knew them before

15:32

the foundation of the world began, which is all

15:34

the things that Jesus was praying. So it's such

15:36

a cool thing to

15:39

discuss because it's not something that

15:41

we just have to like encourage

15:43

ourselves with by like these loose

15:45

words. Like, yeah, this is literally

15:47

in the Bible. Yeah. And

15:49

like Jesus was how you said that Jesus

15:52

was sent into the world and it already

15:54

was such a dark place even then. Yes.

15:57

And I feel like I find

15:59

myself saying. getting worse and worse. And

16:01

I feel like every generation is saying that. But

16:03

obviously having social media and all that doesn't help

16:05

because it's like blasted out there. So you're like,

16:07

whoa, it feels like a lot worse than it

16:10

used to be. But the stories in the Bible,

16:12

I mean, it's always been so

16:14

corrupt and sinful and evil. And

16:17

that's because the enemy is real.

16:21

So that's comforting too. When I think

16:23

about God said and his son,

16:26

his son was faced with

16:28

what, we're faced with today in to

16:31

some degree or the other, and that

16:34

his dad protected him through

16:37

it all and in the

16:39

world, but not of the world. And so that

16:41

is, yes, I'm so glad we're talking about that

16:43

because that brings me a comfort because it's so

16:45

easy for me to start. I'll

16:47

be good for a few days and

16:50

like, I'm just Lord protector. You can

16:52

feel joy even if things feel

16:54

like they're going wrong. Yeah. But to know

16:57

that pregnancy

17:00

brain. Best

17:04

friends on the bygads, her name is lady when she

17:07

was pregnant. And this happened to her like four times.

17:09

She'd be like, uh,

17:11

literally filming my podcast. I've

17:13

had guests come on and we have to

17:16

I've just told my producer, I'm like, I'm

17:18

so sorry. I need, we've cut that because

17:20

when I, I was the same way when

17:22

I was pregnant, it wasn't as much of

17:25

the pregnancy brain that got me on the

17:27

podcast. It was, I could not breathe because

17:29

it was mainly honey's mother and it's your

17:31

honey. Her butt was in my rib cage

17:34

and I would have to have like stretch

17:36

breaks. I'd be like, I'm so sorry, but

17:38

I can't resolve. Be like, oh, yeah. I

17:40

know. I was a little bit comfortable.

17:43

It's just so it's

17:46

pregnancy, um, hosting a podcast or being

17:48

in a body as doing pregnancy is

17:50

a very vulnerable thing. I know. I've

17:52

literally told Hunter, I'm like, just please

17:54

pray for me that I have better

17:56

brain today. Oh my God. I kind

17:58

of love it. because

18:01

it's like, that's so real. And that's what

18:03

you do with like your closest friends. You

18:05

have these like deep conversations and then like

18:07

two seconds later you're like dying laughing because

18:09

you know, you forgot everything you were just

18:11

about to say. Yeah. So

18:13

sorry. I know that was so,

18:16

it was such a deep thought too. Anyways, basically

18:18

just that Jesus has gone

18:20

before us. He has been through all these things that

18:24

I love that he can say, it's okay

18:26

up in there. Yeah. You're gonna

18:28

be good. Yeah. And I love that's like

18:30

actually like the worst thing happened and it's

18:32

still good. You know what I mean? Like

18:35

he died, like he was crucified, but then

18:37

he's like, I'll hold the power, you know,

18:39

and the keys to the grave. So he

18:42

resurrected. And so that's what he can say,

18:44

like truly, you know, you're gonna face trials

18:46

in many time, but take heart out of

18:48

overcome the world. So it's like with your

18:51

kids, you can know, Hey,

18:53

Jesus didn't say it's gonna be perfect

18:55

for them. I'm not resting in the fact

18:57

that their life is gonna be perfect because

19:00

that's a lie. Like I'm resting on the

19:02

fact that even when their life is not

19:04

perfect, that Jesus has overcome the world and

19:06

that their hope is anchored to something that

19:09

is beyond this world and into eternity and

19:11

our home and our hope is in that.

19:13

And so I think that gives you a

19:16

piece too, because I don't like, I don't

19:18

like fluff, you know? I'm like, give me

19:20

the truth. Like, don't tell me everything's gonna

19:22

be okay if it's not, tell

19:24

me that even when it's not gonna be okay,

19:26

God's gonna be with me. You know, like you

19:28

made the truth of the matter. And so, but

19:30

it's cool though, because even like how you said,

19:33

we're trying to raise a little decibels and there's

19:35

like pressure in that, but I

19:37

was reading this book, this is an

19:39

intense book, but it's really good. It's

19:41

called Tortured for Christ and it's about

19:43

this couple and they lived

19:45

in a communist country. I think they were

19:47

in Romania at the time or

19:49

maybe it was very

19:51

close to Romania. Anyways, it

19:54

was extremely bad. They

19:56

were in prison for the sake of their...

20:00

beliefs multiple times and they had a kid.

20:02

And the kid just kept seeing them go to

20:05

prison. And you would think that the kid would

20:07

maybe not, you know, want to be a believer

20:09

because they've seen their parents hurt his parents like

20:11

suffer for Christ. But

20:13

he actually was like

20:15

believed in God so much because

20:17

he saw like the extreme

20:20

conviction his parents had in their faith. And

20:22

so it was really cool because at the

20:24

end of the book, the mom was talking

20:26

about her kid. And she was talking about,

20:29

you know, even in a communist

20:31

country where he's going to school and

20:33

he's getting taught like all these things

20:35

opposite from his faith. She said, I

20:38

didn't worry about sending him to school

20:40

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20:42

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20:44

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23:13

is what's happening in their home. And

23:16

so as parents, like, stewarding that

23:18

and living out what you believe, and

23:21

that doesn't mean you're not gonna mess up and

23:23

there's no pressure in that, just being

23:25

who you are. And actually last night, Honey

23:27

was preaching to our dog. He

23:30

literally was preaching to Cabo and she, but she

23:32

didn't know what she's saying. She said, she

23:34

said, Cabo, you are beautiful.

23:37

And she said, and your God

23:39

is beautiful. And she was so

23:42

funny, I'm like, that's good. I said, that was

23:44

a good word, Honey, that's very inspiring. But I

23:46

love that y'all are praying those prayers of your

23:48

family. So take us back, because you said you

23:50

and your husband got married pretty young at a

23:52

high school. How did you and your husband meet

23:54

and how did y'all start dating? Gosh,

23:57

okay, so, end of eighth grade, my...

24:00

sister, then boyfriend, rode

24:03

dirt bikes and he rode dirt bikes with Hunter. And

24:06

so it was, we met through

24:08

them mutually and we started dating, end

24:10

of eighth grade, going into summer of high school, went

24:12

to separate high schools. So at

24:14

that age, it was just more of a cheesy

24:18

boyfriend girl kind of thing. It's not

24:20

like we were set out to be like, okay, we're going to

24:22

start dating to get married. Our minds weren't

24:24

there yet. But it, so

24:27

we started dating and quickly

24:29

things that I was going through in my life, I

24:32

could see that Hunter was

24:34

brought into my life at that

24:36

time, almost as

24:39

I say, it protected me from a lot

24:42

of other things. I could, I can see

24:44

how I could have

24:46

went down a different path than what I did

24:48

if it weren't for Hunter being placed in my

24:50

life when he was. And

24:53

there's so much, it can, there's so much,

24:55

many different stories to all that. But

24:58

so dating high school, it got really serious,

25:01

quick, more so we were just

25:03

best friends and it was

25:05

almost an escape from what I was

25:07

going through. And so we just

25:09

got to hang out a lot and all that about

25:11

junior year is when it flipped.

25:14

And we're like, okay, if we want to be married one

25:16

day, we have to change our

25:18

priorities because we were putting each other first.

25:22

And we started going to youth

25:24

group and got really involved

25:27

deep into our relationship with Jesus. Quickly

25:30

after we graduated high school, we got engaged.

25:32

Like we knew right away, I think being

25:35

together that long, we just knew and it

25:37

just was so God

25:40

ordained in that. And it's

25:42

so hard to say because we were so young. And so

25:44

even when young people asked me, I'm just like,

25:47

yes, you know, and you know, but we

25:50

also sought counsel, we sought wisdom. And it's

25:53

not like people were telling us not to do it.

25:55

I feel like a lot of the people who knew

25:57

us, they were in support of it. And so that

25:59

reassured me. like, okay, it's we're not just going

26:01

by our flesh and being like, let's get married

26:03

young. Um, so

26:05

we got married a year after high

26:08

school. And yeah,

26:11

so sweet. I heard somewhere you tell

26:13

it about y'all getting together. And I

26:16

think it's so funny. Because

26:19

tell about just like the text message you sent

26:21

because I think that is hilarious. Oh

26:24

my gosh. Yes. Um, Facebook,

26:26

I didn't have an iPhone. Like that was Facebook.

26:28

I so my sister, I said silly, I

26:34

literally asked him, I was like, I'm gonna boyfriend. I

26:36

literally remember saying that on a boyfriend. Do you

26:39

know anybody? I asked her boyfriend and he was

26:41

like, actually, I do I ride dirt bikes

26:43

with this guy. And I'm like, okay, let me go look about literally

26:46

walked into other rooms, looking on Facebook. I was

26:48

already friends with him. And I

26:51

thought it was cute. So I

26:53

unfriended him. And then

26:55

a friend. A new friend request.

26:58

And then a few days later, I

27:01

don't know what I mean, I'm glad I did

27:03

now because I mean, I married to

27:05

him. But I got his number and

27:07

I'm like, I'm not going to text him. I just want his

27:09

number in case he texts me. I'll know it's him. And because

27:12

I know that my sister's boyfriend was

27:15

like speaking into his ear about

27:17

me. So I ended up texting

27:19

him and I just said, Hey, and

27:21

then he said, Who is this? And I just didn't apply. Because

27:23

I'm like, God, we all look so desperate. I unfriend

27:26

him on Facebook and a text message.

27:29

A few days later, I replied because

27:31

he never said anything back. And I was just

27:33

like, Hey, this is Devin. Somebody

27:35

gave me this number and told me to text who is

27:37

this? started

27:41

it. And

27:43

he didn't know that story until way later

27:45

after we started it. And that is so

27:48

funny. I love it so much

27:50

because I always say this, like,

27:52

I think people put so much pressure on like,

27:54

oh, like the guy has to pursue the guy

27:56

has to pursue the guy has to pursue and

27:58

I agree like I I think

28:01

that the guy should pursue for sure.

28:03

But I think that as women, you

28:05

can give someone the confidence to pursue

28:07

you. Like, hey, I like you. And

28:10

I just love that you're like, you know, I just

28:12

wanna make sure he sees me over

28:14

here. Let me just re-send that for request. Let

28:16

me just send a little hey. I

28:19

mean, it definitely worked because he said he saw the

28:21

friend request and saw my profile picture and he thought

28:23

I was cute. But he

28:25

did say, I thought I was very friends

28:27

with her. That is so funny. Hey, all

28:29

right, not perfect. For sure. Like I

28:31

said, in your junior year, y'all had this moment

28:33

where you had to like shift your priorities because

28:36

y'all are putting each other first. You know, there's a lot

28:38

of people on this podcast who are

28:40

new to Christianity

28:43

or just the idea of like godly dating

28:45

or godly marriage and what that looks like

28:47

to put God in your marriage. I think

28:49

it's interesting because y'all are all,

28:51

I think, were believers before this, but then started

28:53

dating and had this moment where you're like, okay,

28:55

we need to shift some things. So

28:57

what does that look like? How did y'all recognize

28:59

that y'all are putting each other first and what

29:02

was the importance for y'all to make sure that

29:04

God was first in your relationship? Yeah,

29:07

so when we started dating, like

29:10

I said, it was like, I felt safe.

29:12

It was almost my safety net. I

29:14

could kind of escape reality to go

29:16

hang out with him, hang out with

29:18

his family, do whatever. And

29:21

I will say, because I grew

29:23

up Christian and he grew

29:25

up knowing God, but he wasn't raised in church

29:27

like I was. And so

29:31

at that age, easily we could

29:33

have fallen into the temptation to like romance,

29:35

you know what I

29:37

mean? And

29:40

it was more of a scary thing.

29:42

So we did save ourselves

29:45

for marriage, but it

29:47

started out of fear of just not

29:49

getting pregnant, not wanting

29:51

to do the wrong thing because

29:54

I was such a good girl. Didn't

29:57

want to disappoint my parents and all that. temptations

30:00

there. And we,

30:05

the shift, it's almost like

30:07

I felt, so the few years we dated

30:09

and God was not first, it

30:11

ended up feeling empty. It wasn't a, even

30:14

though we loved each other and loved being in

30:16

a relationship with each other, it wasn't

30:19

fulfilling us or

30:21

cut. And that's

30:23

because it can't. And so I realized

30:26

a lot of toxic

30:28

tendencies are coming into the

30:31

relationship, just jealousy,

30:34

whatever you want to call

30:36

it, because God was absent.

30:39

And so there was a

30:41

pivotal moment, it was around junior year,

30:44

when he was struggling with his own thing and I was

30:47

having my own struggles. And

30:50

so it was almost like, okay,

30:52

we're either gonna end it and break up and

30:55

just go our separate ways. Or if this

30:57

is something, if we truly feel like we

30:59

want to be together, then something's got to

31:01

change. And it

31:03

was, we wanted, we chose

31:05

each other. We were like, okay, well, we want

31:08

to be together, but what's wrong? Like what is

31:10

not aligned? And

31:13

it was Jesus. He was not first. We had made

31:16

each other our own God. So of

31:18

course we disappointed each other a lot. All those

31:21

worldly fill-ins were coming in

31:23

and we,

31:26

at that point, I also had learned

31:28

like, okay, my of

31:31

saving ourselves from marriage shifted from fear

31:33

to, no, this is because it's

31:36

a gift and it is such a beautiful

31:38

thing inside of marriage. And I wanted

31:40

that and I had that desire to keep

31:43

that. But the way we were going, I

31:45

could, we were almost

31:47

there. It's like there was a line and

31:49

we, it's like, just,

31:52

it's so clear. It was like, okay,

31:54

we choose Jesus or we don't

31:57

choose, we choose each other and it's just

31:59

gonna be a down-down. fall. And so

32:03

we chose Jesus. And so we got involved in church.

32:06

We went on like a mission trip and everything

32:08

together, but it was still so individual

32:11

because we know that our relationship

32:14

with God had to be prioritized

32:16

individually. And then that would bring

32:18

us closer. And it did. And

32:21

it was such, I'm just so thankful

32:23

that that was evident to

32:26

us at that point that we needed God

32:28

first. And doing

32:30

that before marriage really helped us

32:33

in marriage. And so that is something we always look

32:35

back on, even though we were young, we were in

32:37

high school, but it was such a big

32:40

moment in our lives of, wow, we can really

32:42

see what happens if God's not first. And

32:45

that stays true in our dating life, in our marriage,

32:48

if God's not first, we're going

32:50

to disappoint each other. We're going to be feel more separate.

32:52

We're not going to feel as intimate, close together. And so

32:55

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32:57

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like there kind of comes

35:15

a moment where anything in everyone's life whether in

35:17

relationship or not where you realize I'm either going

35:19

to give into the flesh and live according to

35:21

my own will and probably get

35:23

to go downhill from here and when

35:27

I say downhill that doesn't mean that you

35:29

won't still you know by world standards be

35:31

successful or do your thing but yeah just

35:33

you're you might not have peace you know

35:35

you might not have a true joy you're

35:37

the cup is not gonna be full like

35:39

you said or I'm gonna choose Jesus and

35:41

no matter what life looks like I'm gonna

35:43

be sustained by grace you know through faith

35:46

and so it's like cool that y'all had

35:48

that moment together in Your lives

35:50

and so now like y'all both have that

35:52

back as like an anchor point for you

35:54

guys individually and each other which is just

35:56

really sweet and really special. And I think

35:58

it's cool just to hear. Your story

36:00

tests. For the similarities idea

36:03

of having kids where it starts at

36:05

this fear based mentality and then switches

36:07

to this like they gotta trust you

36:09

out your words yeah I trap your

36:11

plan is greater which is so cool

36:14

because when died would time to people

36:16

in the old testament and he would

36:18

call them something He would normally start

36:20

out the conversation by saying you not

36:22

be afraid and the reason I think

36:24

he always said that is because he

36:27

knows there can be afraid Cel mai

36:29

you know is that the situation where

36:31

an his theories. His in each person's

36:33

life he would say don't be afraid

36:35

he talking to people who were in

36:37

very scary scenarios but then he would

36:39

follow Art this advice do not be

36:41

afraid with a promise an anchor the

36:43

I will be whiskey and this is

36:45

what I'm gonna lead us and then

36:47

the person would be able to say

36:49

like. Okay, like I'm with you, you

36:51

know, And so it's just is it. I realize

36:54

it's almost the same thing where got cause either

36:56

something and in the midst of that. You're.

36:59

Afraid you're dealing with the sphere

37:01

of a Cia and bigger than

37:03

who you are, whatever it is

37:05

and in you had this realization

37:07

that he's calling me, he'll be

37:09

with me and this is his

37:11

plan and so that's what I

37:13

was actually more than the my

37:15

own will and so is is

37:17

really caught a Cs thread and

37:19

your story to tell me of

37:22

our whenever your went from. Ah

37:24

you know just be a married.join

37:26

Alabama Sara Yes so I mean

37:28

Married Alabama Country. Country kids you

37:30

know the suspended that has a and

37:32

having a baby all this does to

37:34

decided to share your life with the

37:36

internet harder that has a I was

37:38

the decision like and that process. Yes,

37:41

so at the same year or

37:43

so late the same time that.

37:45

God. Revealed to us like or

37:48

data Peace over a psych. It's

37:50

okay if you know this is

37:52

the time A. I

37:54

want to start trying have kids

37:56

and. That. Same. Season.

38:00

Hard. In a way. Looking.

38:02

Back because I'm like a lot of stuff

38:04

happens during that time of the peace we

38:06

felt. In an

38:08

unexplained peace we were. Broke.

38:12

We to in be Berlin

38:14

and Paycheck to Paycheck and

38:16

I ended up. Getting. Pregnant

38:18

and so I quit my job I had

38:21

in my job was. Of.

38:24

I guess you could say I was the breadwinner even

38:26

though. I wasn't making like a

38:28

ton of money, but still, I made more

38:30

than hundred and not and then So that

38:33

was addressing process as like okay, I feel

38:35

like I'm supposed to. Not. Work right

38:37

now says I'm pregnant. I couldn't were

38:39

all that gear or couldn't hardly breathe

38:41

see the by it. So hundred the

38:43

firefighter. He worked a lot of overtime

38:45

just so he could. I could

38:47

stay home and never made me feel bad

38:49

about it. He supported me, You know that?

38:52

And I had always felt. Like.

38:56

I. Remember praying. Lotta times

38:58

about my future ministry and what that

39:00

looks like in the workplace. I'm where

39:03

my going to work forever or. Foot.

39:06

Just what does it look like? I don't

39:08

feel like I'm gonna be a preacher or

39:11

anything like that. but what does my main

39:13

issues as look like in the place I'm

39:15

working? Where my them go in either me,

39:17

a stay at home mom now forever Just

39:19

all those questions. I but

39:21

I knew it would be different. I just

39:23

felt like to call ahead or life was

39:25

gonna look a lot different than. What

39:28

people would expect. Their guests

39:30

and I love. Watching.

39:32

Youtube videos back in the day and

39:35

so we were actually on our baby

39:37

moon! And. At

39:39

a sent us. Home I wasn't working.

39:42

Hhonors working but we took

39:45

off lit to that number

39:47

Tennessee and I was like.

39:50

I. think i'm some start blogging because i

39:52

had that desire i wanted snake youtube videos

39:54

more so for memory so i the could

39:56

look back and as one day i'd have

39:59

those and i I feel like that's

40:01

one of mine. I don't know

40:04

if I would say gifts, but just desires. I

40:06

just thought that was fun. Videoing, editing, I love

40:08

that kind of stuff. I love being creative. It

40:10

was like a creative outlet for me. I

40:13

didn't know what the heck to do, but I got my iPhone.

40:15

I started videoing on my iPhone, edited

40:17

on my iPhone, and I posted our first YouTube

40:19

video. And I just started

40:21

blogging a little bit here and there, documenting

40:24

my pregnancy. And it was always

40:26

something that in the back of my head,

40:28

I'm like, if this could go somewhere one

40:30

day where it would help us financially, great.

40:32

But if not, it's still fun. I

40:35

did have the hope that I was like, maybe it'll

40:37

be something, I don't know. And we got a few

40:40

subscribers, all that. And then I kind of, I had

40:42

Ivy and I just was

40:44

new mom. So I kind of like took a break from

40:47

it. And then I remember posting our birth vlog

40:49

and it got a lot of views. And I'm

40:51

like, oh, that kind of just gave me the

40:53

spark I needed to continue to do it. And

40:55

be like, okay, I do enjoy this. And

40:58

then I started that and

41:00

I ended up seeing, it

41:03

just wasn't still going anywhere. And

41:06

then I never had TikTok, but

41:08

I saw Matt and Abby,

41:10

they posted a video about how they started YouTube

41:13

and theirs didn't do good until they got TikTok and

41:15

that helped it. So I was like, well, I guess

41:17

I'll go on TikTok see what that's about. So

41:20

I, looking back at old videos, if

41:22

you scroll all the way back, it's

41:24

kind of embarrassing to see what that

41:26

made. I guess

41:28

you would say cringy mom content. I did a

41:30

lot of lip syncing videos, but it was fun

41:33

for me. Even

41:35

my mind wasn't set on blowing up

41:37

or becoming viral. It was still, it

41:39

was therapeutic for me. Cause I was

41:41

struggling with postpartum depression. Hunter was working

41:43

a lot. So he was gone a

41:45

lot as a firefighter. So for me,

41:47

it was just like filling that gap and kind

41:49

of just giving me my pink

41:52

back, I guess as people say, after you have a baby. And

41:55

so it was fun.

41:57

And then I was posting, I

41:59

did. gain like a few thousand followers

42:01

just from doing the original content. And

42:04

then Hunter would be in a little bit. He

42:07

had to like, beg him. He

42:09

was like, this is so silly.

42:12

Well, he ended up filming

42:14

a reaction of his, him

42:17

shaving off his mustache. So it was a

42:19

complete different content than what I was posting

42:21

on TikTok. And I ended

42:24

up posting it because I was like, oh,

42:26

I have to lose. Um, you know, this

42:28

is just for fun anyways, blew up. And

42:30

so literally went grew a million followers in

42:32

a month on my gosh. And

42:34

I'm like, what is this? And

42:37

little backstory, the months

42:39

that I was doing TikTok, it started off

42:41

as just therapeutic, whatever. In

42:44

this, I was in my searching, like

42:46

in a season of waiting and almost

42:49

seeking. I was in

42:51

the word I was reading, um, just books

42:53

about like the Deborah

42:56

Neuening. She's, I love her in the Bible.

42:59

And I feel like it just spoke

43:01

over my life. And it, and a

43:03

few people at the same time were just saying, you're going to be

43:05

an influence. You're going to be influenced to many. I

43:08

had no idea what that meant now. And

43:10

I just

43:13

thought it meant to people around me because that

43:15

is, we are all influencers to everybody. We're around.

43:17

And so in, before

43:20

we blew up on TikTok, I was in a

43:22

lot of prayer and seeking and like, okay, God,

43:24

what do you have for my life? What is

43:27

your plan for me? And

43:29

I felt then that it was

43:31

going to be something bigger than I would

43:34

ever imagine and something

43:36

to do with social media, I guess, not

43:38

to the extent it is, I still didn't know

43:41

what that looks like. I could just feel like

43:43

something was about to happen and that he was

43:45

just like, just trust me and surrender, just surrender

43:47

it to me. Almost like I

43:49

was taking on my own and searching

43:52

and trying to make things happen. And

43:54

he was over

43:56

and over telling me to surrender it. And

43:59

I, remember telling Hunter, like

44:01

we were really struggling at

44:04

this point financially and I was just like, it's

44:06

going to be okay. I was like, I can

44:08

feel it. Something's going to happen. Something's happening soon,

44:10

more so spiritually than financially, but

44:13

that we would be okay. And

44:15

I was like, I'm just supposed to surrender. I was

44:17

like, but I don't really know what that looks like because

44:19

I feel like I'm already, I'm doing all the things. I'm

44:21

in prayer. I'm in the Word. I'm all

44:24

of the things that you would think means

44:26

surrender. And so

44:29

the day before our video went viral, I was

44:31

at a stop sign. And at this point it

44:33

had been weeks of me just being like, God,

44:35

what do you mean? What do you mean surrender?

44:37

I feel like I'm doing it. And

44:40

I was at a stop sign and clear as day,

44:42

he was like, but have you even

44:44

asked me to bless it? And

44:46

I was like, no, I have

44:48

not. And so I feel at the same stop

44:50

sign. Nobody was behind me or anything. I was

44:53

like, okay, God, I was like, if you will just

44:55

take this platform, do whatever you want

44:57

to do with it, grow it how you want to grow.

44:59

I will give all glory to you because

45:02

I felt like that was what I was supposed to

45:04

ask him for and what he was meaning. And

45:07

then after that, it was like, I just had a piece

45:09

and all the worry about figuring out what we were going

45:11

to do next and all this was gone. And then

45:14

the next day I woke up, our video had went viral and I

45:16

was like, is that what you meant?

45:18

Because I had no idea. And

45:20

yes. And so that is

45:24

why to this day, like I give all glory

45:26

to God and just for

45:28

our platforms. And I started

45:30

off at first being

45:32

like, okay, this means I need to get on there and

45:34

preach. So I would do my devotions on there at least once

45:36

a week or whatever. And then at that

45:38

point, I feel like I was just doing it for to keep

45:41

up and like for show like showing like I'm

45:43

a Christian, you know, don't put me in another

45:45

category like this is me. And

45:48

it became almost

45:51

set up like I was, I would hurry

45:53

go through my morning devotion just so I

45:55

could share it. And

45:59

from that he was like, it's okay,

46:01

they will know you by your fruit. And

46:04

so that is why I'm not, our

46:06

content isn't me preaching. We

46:09

talk about Jesus openly like on our podcast

46:11

and YouTube and all that. And if, you

46:14

know, I feel like people

46:16

can see that something's different about us

46:18

just in the way our marriage is

46:20

and how to, a healthy, happy marriage

46:22

and all of that. But sorry,

46:25

I've said way too much. I probably like

46:27

went past the question. No, you didn't. That

46:29

was like so cool to, honestly, it was

46:31

so cool to hear all of that and

46:33

how it started. And then, y'all,

46:41

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46:43

here. We are camp kids. We love

46:45

camp, love a good camp game, camp

46:47

song. All of it is so fun.

46:49

Summers at camp are definitely awesome. And

46:51

my kids are too young for camps.

46:53

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46:55

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47:17

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47:20

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47:22

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47:24

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Also, just like the

48:28

process is how you pray through that,

48:31

because I think it's so important that

48:33

we do have people pursuing social

48:36

media as a place of actual

48:41

influence. I actually have a sign up

48:43

here that says, be an influencer worth

48:45

following. I always talk about that. Everyone

48:48

does have influence for sure. Everyone does. Everyone

48:50

is an influencer because if you have anyone

48:52

following you and not just on social media,

48:55

you're just in life and you're influencing them.

48:57

You have to take that seriously and you

48:59

have to take responsibility in that. Also, I

49:01

think that sometimes there's this stigma against social

49:04

media or being an influencer, whatever

49:07

that is. It's like, no, we

49:09

need to be in the spaces again as

49:11

a light. That doesn't mean that it all

49:13

has to be you preaching or it doesn't

49:15

always have to be like, explicitly, opening up

49:17

the word and reading it. People will know

49:20

you by the fruit. You're

49:22

filled with the Spirit of God. It

49:24

overflows into who you are, just even

49:26

by the fruit on your life. If

49:28

you're like, what's fruit, you're sitting here

49:30

listening. The fruit of the Spirit is

49:32

love, joy, peace,

49:34

patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness,

49:36

self-control, all these things. So

49:38

you think about that. When you're

49:41

a person on

49:43

social media who's walking

49:46

in true joy, who has

49:48

peace that surpasses understanding, who

49:50

is rooted and anchored in

49:52

love and their identity as

49:55

a daughter or a son of Christ,

49:57

who has self-control in areas, who's gentle,

49:59

who's people go, what

50:02

is this? Who is this person? How do you

50:04

have, how do you have an anchor in your

50:06

identity? How do you know that you're loved? How

50:08

do you have a peace in this chaotic world?

50:11

How do you have such a true joy? Where

50:13

is, how do you have self control to resist

50:15

the temptations in your life? How are you so

50:17

gentle? How are you so kind? How are you

50:19

faithful to this God? And then you get to

50:22

say, man, it's the fruit of who God is.

50:24

This is what it's like to be in relationship

50:26

with Jesus. And that is influencing people for the

50:28

better. And so like, yes, people know you buy

50:30

that fruit. That's all over your life. People see

50:33

that. And you know, it's interesting, because even in

50:35

my life, like, since

50:37

so my, my life kind of took off

50:40

whenever I was on Dancing with the Stars,

50:42

and it's very similar, like within a month,

50:44

gained a million followers, everything was crazy. That

50:46

was 10 years ago, which is so crazy.

50:48

Wow. At the time, like

50:50

I wasn't doing any preaching or anything like that when

50:52

I was on Dancing with the Stars. So I kind

50:55

of went like with the more influencer, E-Ral,

50:57

and all this different stuff. Then,

51:00

actually super similar, it's really weird.

51:04

I kind of had this moment where God,

51:06

like I had to surrender, like same thing. And

51:09

I was really wanting God to kind

51:12

of take this like fame, I guess,

51:14

or influence in fame away, which is

51:16

interesting, because I was just so overwhelmed

51:18

by it. And I really wanted to

51:20

just do like a more normal thing.

51:23

I was like, I just kind

51:25

of like want to go to school. And I was playing

51:27

sports at the time I was in high school. So I

51:29

just wanted to be normal, you know? And

51:31

so I was like asking God to take it away. And then

51:34

I was like, okay, well, if you're not going to take

51:36

it away, like show me how to use it, you know,

51:38

like show me what to do in it. And so I

51:41

responded to this altar call. And the

51:43

Lord gave me this vision was first time I ever had

51:45

got a vision. First, the Lord

51:47

said, I'm not calling you to be famous, but I'm calling

51:49

you to be a sister and a friend of those who

51:51

don't have one. That has stuck with

51:53

me for 10 years now. And

51:55

everything I do, I always I have a sisters

51:58

and friends podcast, I love sister

52:00

conference, everything is sister and friend. And

52:02

then the second thing God showed me in

52:05

that that moment was a picture of Instagram

52:07

and the followers kept going up and

52:09

up and up and up. And I was

52:11

going, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm

52:14

asking for that to be taken away. And

52:16

then he said, not your name, but mine.

52:19

And I like remember seeing it

52:21

visually, like, it was not

52:23

me gaining followers. It was like

52:25

my influence bringing him followers. You know

52:28

what I mean? Which is like, very

52:30

interesting. And I remember that changed everything

52:32

for me. And so I started using my

52:34

influence to be a sister and a friend

52:36

of those who don't have one. I started

52:39

preaching, I started sharing the Bible, I started

52:41

being myself, I do dance videos, I've done

52:43

it for 10 years. And you know, it's

52:45

crazy, like, nowadays, sometimes I get hate on

52:47

doing dance videos, because people are like, Oh,

52:49

you're a preacher or whatever. Then I'll have

52:51

people on the podcast who aren't necessarily like

52:54

Christian or pastors and people are like,

52:56

Oh, like, you shouldn't have that or

52:58

whatever. And I'm like, look, everything

53:00

I do is going to be if

53:04

you want to say it's a Christian thing, right? But

53:06

everything I do is to bring God glory. I'm a

53:08

follower of Christ. Like, that is who I am. That

53:10

is what I do. But I believe that God, be

53:13

like, it's not necessarily like what you're

53:15

doing, because I'm preaching or how about

53:17

it's like, it's who I am in

53:19

him. So even when I'm dancing, I'm

53:21

glorifying it, even when I'm having conversations

53:23

with people who are different than me, we're

53:25

glorifying him and bringing his name. And so

53:28

I love that you said you're kind of

53:30

fighting that like being put in a in

53:32

a category and a box, I felt the

53:34

same way. I'm like, don't put me in

53:36

that box. Yeah. Because again, like, I don't

53:38

think God puts us in that box. I

53:40

think he makes us original. And I think

53:42

through our originality, there's so much room to

53:44

grow and be all that he created you

53:46

to be. And so I don't think we

53:49

should put ourselves in this like box of

53:51

religion, you know. And

53:53

so anyways, this Is kind of like

53:55

messy conversation. But I Just I Love

53:57

hearing your story. I think it's absolutely.

54:00

The Zebra inspiring and I just think

54:02

about any bill. Listening to the Sky

54:04

Gaseous are thinking about pursuing social media

54:06

as a career or maybe there and

54:08

that stage right now has should stick

54:10

together. Tunisian there I know it's not.

54:12

I love you know like a around

54:14

high fives and my dad's agree is

54:16

it's fun for you as a guy

54:18

brings you joy and at the end

54:20

of the day you're just like it

54:22

again it's hobbies. This isn't the first

54:24

dance idiot per se I did together

54:26

was actually Simla as having Elia post

54:29

Partum anxiety. Alice struggling one day

54:31

and I just so cursor odyssey to

54:33

dance and him get together and I

54:35

can have started all these like signed

54:38

videos during coed that ended up bringing

54:40

on a joy to people. But first

54:42

it was yes for I see now

54:44

and safe as you're out there and

54:46

you're like trying to build a following

54:49

maybe just take the pressure off yourself

54:51

to build band sounds one from these

54:53

elements as unless the lord builds the

54:55

house the labor labor in vain eating

54:58

the bride of anxious to the he

55:00

gives his beloved sleep and so let

55:02

God build a house that you keep

55:04

so and are easy posted. The video

55:07

has fun with it and give it

55:09

to the lord and your story. It's

55:11

so crazy has we just met by

55:13

isolate L A to taught you forever?

55:16

I know I know so many similarities

55:18

to a crazy it's just really see

55:20

in actually L. I just had to

55:22

point out the stop sign situation real

55:24

fast. The guys I see exactly so

55:27

my best for time times and the

55:29

car and and. I love that like

55:31

you literally just had the time to

55:33

stop and pray about something and ask

55:35

who lured an adjustment period you listening

55:38

like take seek advice from her story

55:40

in every bc share a house even

55:42

modeled out pray and what it looks

55:44

at to go to guide to things

55:46

because some silly as if oppression ourselves

55:48

s. Or morning routine or might

55:50

tower. Whatever it is that like. He.

55:53

Realized guys and twenty four seven relationship

55:55

is yeah it's being at a stop

55:57

sign saying oh that as anyone asks

55:59

you to bless what I'm doing the

56:01

area as yes there is no other

56:03

highness in the stop right here and

56:05

I see that I don't I just

56:07

like you you mention the through I

56:09

realised even just the way that you

56:11

talk and what you're saying is an

56:13

inspiration and of itself a high you

56:15

live on said truly. I wish we

56:17

had a more time because I know

56:19

I have so much I want to

56:21

so Sakharov but I'd have to do

56:23

our part to of or something because

56:25

for real this is so good as

56:27

the like this is that leave him

56:29

a cliffhanger because. I know I would

56:31

weaken sounds a little sister so has to

56:33

do that. Also just this out our as

56:35

he don't follow her on social media You

56:38

need to do that right now as you

56:40

don't listen to reply guess saw seats are

56:42

you gotta go listen to have high caste

56:44

He obviously has so much to say and

56:47

is such a good example on influence to

56:49

be following answers say to you and your

56:51

family for to hear your life and lives

56:53

in the world is against think he says

56:56

that saidi that is just loves loves dispensation

56:58

and yellow devil have to do another com

57:00

or have more conversation because that is have

57:02

more I'm just like move. On

57:05

to get over here are they do

57:08

so Eyes! As a few.