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Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose?

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A production of iHeartRadio. Oh

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oh my god. Look, Gary

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is such a good lead. He's

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officially a bachelor. He

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said I love you to too many women. He's

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horny, he's in it.

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It's like you cannot help yourself

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if you're the lead. This

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was maybe the most compelling forty

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four minutes of television I've ever seen

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in my life. Adding grandchildren

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in and telling all of them you're pretty much

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gonna marry their nana. Rock

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I was riveted. Hello,

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I'm welcome to another episode of weeks of This

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Rose. My name is Armorine, coming to you from a

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very fancy recording

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studio in New York City near Times

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Square. Now with me today,

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there's two people. I'm going to start with a

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guess that was so popular

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last week. We got so

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many any messages, people loved

1:02

you. Now you know him. He hosts

1:05

a monthly show. He's a amazing stand

1:07

up hilarious his birthdays

1:09

this week, he's dead garages.

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What ye?

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Happy baby boy Bird, Happy baby

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boy Bird. He's he's a scorpio.

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He stings. He's sexy, but he likes secrets.

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He he is, he holds

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a grudg he hold a grudge. He's

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gonna stay, but he's gonna

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keep you guessing. Ladies. Here's

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the thing. He works at the Tonight show.

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He's fucking the best in the bids.

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He hows the most fun monthly

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show.

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He thought you're talking about his wife for a second, or you're

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like, he's fucking the best in the biz.

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She's the best in the bis, the wife fins

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lady, the husband

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of the best of the best.

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Seth.

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Now, Seth, I just want to say I was telling

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you this, So I told doctor Shamway,

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I'm sure at first I lied to him this morning.

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Oh, because I know that he actually

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wants to be Don's favorite, So I lied,

2:05

Okay, I couldn't break his heart, and

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I was like, hey, you're

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tied. At first, I said

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tied. I was like, Don

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really likes Seth.

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Now.

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We also found out after the fact that Don

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didn't record himself, so that so

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that we just I'll.

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Hear saying now, because Don, you couldn't hear what he was saying.

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You were saying that we should just have ad rd in his ans,

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we.

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Should have a we have the slots.

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I mean, it's empty.

2:30

Dead air, right, yeah, we could play the part of Don

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today he's not here with us. But so here's

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the thing, here's what I want to try to do. So

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I did the math because I didn't factor in that there

2:39

would be a women to all right. I thought

2:41

the finale was going to be with Margaret and Joe from the

2:43

Real Housewives in New Jersey obviously, but

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I think there's another episode. So if we can

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have you and doctor shamwam Shamawa have

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two final's, Gary's Final Rose

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and then Don's Final Row top

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dog. You are doctor sham.

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This is what the the listeners

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are craving.

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Now you got a DM. What did they say?

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Oh, I'll show you, Okay, I got I'll read

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it. It was just the sweetest DM right after

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you told me that people liking it. I got this DM.

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There's been also so many more since I've texted

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you complimens.

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This one's like I heard you one will acceptcept

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this rose.

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Yeah, that's that's right.

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You were hilarious. You had great insights.

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I hope to hear you again. Yeah, and then

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you mentioned Memphis and I live in Nashville

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and my friend from Wisconsin.

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A lot a lot of did she

3:32

slide into your.

3:32

D that's a slide. And I

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didn't and now I feel bad. I didn't get back because we're making

3:38

a trip to Memphis. Where should we go? That's

3:40

so I responded about.

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Tell her right now?

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Okay, porsia. This is uh for

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porsia not spelled like the car.

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How's it spelled p O R s

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h A. Okay, unusual? Here

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we go, Okay, So what are you gonna tell?

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I was gonna say Porsche when you go to Memphis? Why,

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Like all the rate spots I'm thinking of there aren't

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there anymore. But there's a lot of gray

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hole in the wall bars,

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okay, and that they're trying to change that vibe.

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Like Memphis is known for its character. It's got so much

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character, like authentic character. And I think the city

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is trying to make it more like New York and trying to make it cooler.

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But like, and that's not what Memphis is about.

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You don't want that.

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No, But there's a place called p H Cafe that's

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like so authentic and

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HP and H Cafe. There's

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a lot of places like that. I think, Oh,

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I gotta go to Huey's. He was the place

4:31

the whole ceiling is full of toothpicks or people throw

4:33

the toothpicks on the ceiling. Yeah, and

4:35

the Burgers are really really actually quite.

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Good who.

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They're making a new thing of COVID or something.

4:46

It's a it's a hood of COVID.

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My mom and I did a road trap and

4:50

we stopped at Graceland kind

4:52

of tongue in cheek, and then we found it so

4:55

cool that it was really

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very moving. We actually it was. We did the whole

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thing.

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Wasteland's fun.

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It was fun TCB in a flash.

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I will say the two things about Graceland

5:06

I like is that when he got out of

5:08

the army, he did a press conference, and

5:11

they show you the full press conference in

5:13

the same room that hasn't been touched, and

5:15

they put the TV on the desk he was sitting

5:17

at, so it's like you're the press and you're sitting

5:19

here watching the conference just as it happens.

5:21

Pretty while, okay, And then they have like a

5:24

gun set up TV

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only get.

5:26

One shot at different There's three TVs

5:29

in that room and everyone gets a different shot at different

5:31

TV and if you hit one, you get

5:33

a stuffed elvis. But I will

5:35

say this though, there's a mall of Elvis across the street,

5:38

or there's like tons of choschky stores and stuff, and

5:40

there's like a movie a documentary you can watch in the mall

5:42

of Elvis. But at the mall of Elvis

5:44

store, I can buy I

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made it up. I don't know what it's called. But you

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can buy like like a fuzzy dice or a

5:51

toilet cover with his face on it, or towels.

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But they will not sell you a wig or a

5:56

jumpsuit because Tribute, that's

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like blaspheme there. If you're like Tribute,

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I walked in to try and buy a wig and they're like, how

6:04

dare you ask us for a wig? Well, there's a

6:06

toilet cover, but I.

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Can't say a toilet like that feels

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the most blessed, That's what I'm talking about. I was like, literally

6:12

where he died?

6:13

I know, I know that's I'm saying. So there was all the stuff

6:15

that I thought would be so much more blasphemous. But they're

6:17

like, we don't do wigs in jumpsuits.

6:19

How dairy novelty pills?

6:21

Yes, yes, exactly right. No, it's that

6:23

crazy. Yeah.

6:25

Also with us today is a woman

6:27

who's new to the podcast. She I

6:29

can tell you she's gonna be the first person in line

6:31

at the Toothpick Cafe.

6:32

She is.

6:33

She's gonna throw her toothpick that she's chewing on at

6:35

the in the height of the ceiling. She has

6:37

been our guest at the only two live

6:40

no autographs please that we've ever done

6:42

in Brooklyn, doing the improv portion. We

6:45

worked together. We met on Mad TV.

6:47

She was a writer. I meant to be freakin' hilarious,

6:50

dead guarageous. But she's written on

6:52

every show you could ever think of. She's

6:55

a producer on every including

6:57

The Great which was so oh

7:00

freaking good on Hulu, and also

7:02

Orange is the New Black.

7:04

I said, thirty Rocks.

7:05

And thirty Rock and all

7:07

of them, just every single one you've ever thought of. A Tammy

7:09

Sanger, Thank you?

7:11

Nice? Was Nicholas Hole?

7:13

Did you meet Nicholas Hole? Is adorable?

7:15

It was wonderful and I love I love

7:17

what's her name feeling?

7:18

She is so talented.

7:20

I get to say from the top down, like the whole cast

7:23

is amazing, incredible.

7:24

I'm really obsessed with that show.

7:25

Yeah, and they were all It's

7:27

one of those things where later you're like, oh, yeah,

7:29

they were child stars, but they

7:32

actually got the best of it where they like knew

7:34

their lines cold were super

7:36

professional but also kind.

7:38

You know. I am friends

7:41

with Debbie Ryan, who was the lead on Unstatiable,

7:43

who was a Disney star from Jesse,

7:46

and I would just visited her and we

7:48

were I was really struck. She

7:51

and I worked on Zendia and

7:53

like both of them like

7:56

like with the best version of like super

7:59

kind new everyone's name, never

8:01

late, always knew their lines,

8:04

super professional, like when it works

8:06

and the training works, like sweetest

8:09

can be humble, like when

8:11

you see it work.

8:12

It's like these kids doesn't completely destroy

8:14

them.

8:15

No, Miley Cyrus is like that,

8:17

that's cool. We had her on for a show.

8:19

We had like a week like yeah, like Miley

8:21

Week when she was on every day for a week and she had to do like

8:23

one sketch, showed up, did the sketch

8:25

perfect once, and left every single time. I mean, that's

8:27

the thing you do, such a problem, you know.

8:29

I again, when it works, I also worked,

8:31

like the training, I think I don't know if it's

8:33

like fear. I don't know what I mean. We've never discussed it,

8:36

so I don't like this is from a pure

8:38

Fean point of view, but it's like I

8:41

think it's maybe there's also the perception

8:44

like you don't want to come off like like they were just cool,

8:46

ready to go. I also worked with Kiki

8:48

Palmer once Oh Yeah again star.

8:51

She was a child star too, and she was like

8:54

super cool, knew all of it, like and they were all

8:56

the leads on shows were so cool. I

8:58

was like, look at that when it worked. Okay,

9:01

here we go. Okay, Cammy,

9:04

you're so you're new to the franchise. Here are

9:06

you tell me? Do you love

9:08

it as much as we love it?

9:09

No?

9:10

You don't love Gary.

9:12

I thought you just met in general.

9:14

No no, no, no, no, no, this this particular

9:16

one.

9:17

Gary Darry the movie

9:19

being There, Yes, of course, Peter.

9:22

Seller Theater

9:25

in fifth grade.

9:26

Wow, I think

9:28

he's being there. I think he blank

9:32

enough and sweet enough that everybody is

9:34

putting everything on him.

9:35

You know what's funny? You were seeing my notes. I had

9:37

a similar thought. My first thought after

9:40

watching him talk to the women was he's like first

9:42

comp That's what I thought.

9:44

Similar, I think he's enough of the blanks.

9:46

Like so I listened to more

9:49

podcasts that you did about it than watched

9:51

episode. So I came in being like, oh,

9:53

he's gonna be like because you are in

9:56

love with him.

9:56

I'm in love with Gary, and I made him with

9:58

Gary, I'm in love with I.

10:00

Feel like doctor Shamwell might be a little

10:02

bit more upset about that than Yeah.

10:03

No, no, no, he doesn't know. I trust me. He's

10:06

he likes to make people laugh and he's more upset about

10:08

that.

10:09

But so I was. But then

10:11

I turned it on and it's like he's

10:13

kinda he talks kind

10:15

of slow. Yeah, and he just

10:18

yeah, he listens really hard, but I

10:20

don't know if it's it's

10:22

almost like he's trying to catch up to what people are

10:25

saying.

10:25

He always says, the most obvious thing is if it's fascinating.

10:28

Yeah, okay, here's the thing. In

10:30

his defense, we've never had a

10:32

lead ask questions before. So

10:35

the bar is very long, the

10:37

bar is so low. And I

10:39

was also wondering this,

10:41

and I'm not even saying this in a mean way. If

10:44

it is because he can't

10:46

hear as much, if he has to really look, make eye

10:48

contact and watch, if he has

10:50

to really pay attention, like

10:52

because he's really engaged, and I wondered

10:54

if part I don't know how about. I wondered if

10:56

part of it was he really can't stray.

10:59

But I do think I think it's

11:01

more like a goldfish of like

11:04

like, oh my god, a castle, Oh

11:06

my god, a castle. Well, oh my god,

11:09

a castle, just like a

11:11

really happy goldfish.

11:12

Now this episode, oh my

11:15

god, brunette, Oh my god, really

11:17

skinny brunette. Really

11:20

definitely brunette

11:23

emotionally, he

11:26

does like a needy brunette now

11:28

and again watching Gary get

11:30

himself into a pickle, the I

11:33

love you pick all to

11:35

me, particularly at least

11:37

you didn't say it to Teresa.

11:39

Yes, I think he only

11:41

said it to Leslie. Well, I think he was

11:43

feeling it. But I think he said it because he

11:45

felt like, oh shit, I said it to Faith, I

11:47

gotta say it to Leslie UK.

11:49

Oh.

11:49

Yeah.

11:49

Well, he said in the show that he felt compelled

11:51

and he felt bad about it. Afterwards.

11:53

He did, He's like, and he

11:55

felt bad.

11:55

He said, you're saying it to Faith. He felt

11:58

that.

11:58

He was like, I said it, but I really should, but

12:00

I felt I had to at the time.

12:01

Oh I didn't catch that.

12:02

Yeah, and he felt bad. Yeah,

12:05

because I think he felt trapped by Faith's sister.

12:07

He played it fucking perfectly, yes,

12:10

and I think he really did feel it.

12:11

But I think he She was kind of foxy.

12:16

She was hot.

12:17

She was hot, so on board with Faith?

12:19

Yeah, me too.

12:19

You know what.

12:20

I've come at

12:22

first? I was like, oh, boy,

12:25

like Faith and that. But you know what faith

12:28

is? Of the three? Of the needy

12:30

three, the try, the try that the

12:32

circle be unbroken, of the Chicago

12:37

like if this is she was left, If you've left us

12:39

with this needy three, I

12:41

can't believe it. The one that I was like, absolutely

12:44

not out of the gate when she busted out that enormous

12:46

guitar at the first oppression Rose, I'm

12:49

gonna say, of the needy three, faith

12:51

is my faith.

12:52

I think they're really I

12:54

don't know that he's gonna choose her.

12:55

I fear it's going to be Leslie.

12:57

I thought it was going to be Faith until last night. Now I think it's

12:59

gonna be Leslie.

13:00

Leslie is the worst.

13:01

She always too.

13:04

She is the only reason she is

13:06

into him is because he is the lead of this show.

13:08

She needs a star. She I looked up

13:11

husband, tell me he's

13:13

like a Moroccan born chef

13:17

who was like, if you look at him, he looks

13:19

like a cooler version of her older brother. And

13:21

he was like the restauranteur of Minneapolis.

13:24

It's hard to picture. That's

13:30

hard to wrap my head around, Like what I'm

13:32

going to try to picture it and at the commercial break,

13:34

I'm going to google it.

13:35

And so I just I feel like she's

13:38

like, she's got to make it really clear. Prince

13:40

wanted her. Yes, that's

13:43

she needs to be the center of this, and I

13:46

don't think she's going to be into it once and

13:49

her family could not have enough

13:52

tattoos. There's so, there's so there

13:54

is a lot of time that I'm cursing. Oh

13:58

my god, the tattoo were no.

14:01

I felt like, oh,

14:05

Gary's horny,

14:07

and he's gonna like he needs

14:09

for the first time. He's like, whoa,

14:12

I'm a little horny. Oka, let's start

14:14

at the beginning. Okay, here we go, Gary

14:17

of Hometowns.

14:17

He's immediately I didn't literally put

14:19

on glasses and to get a spire.

14:23

Just so you know what's actually happening.

14:25

So Gary's at Hometowns.

14:27

Finally, Hometowns. Hometowns are this week

14:31

Hometowns are this week.

14:32

Guys, Guys, I.

14:33

Don't know if you know about hometowns are this week? Hometown

14:36

Can you believe you're back on.

14:37

The hometown I can't believe I'm back on the hometowns

14:39

home this week, If you guys don't know.

14:41

All I talked about is how much I hate the phrase. Hometowns are

14:43

next next week? Is my least favorite phrase.

14:46

What's your second least favorite phrase? Hometowns are this week?

14:48

This week?

14:50

This week, because it's hometown this

14:52

week.

14:53

I'm surprised none of her her

14:55

brother sisters had a tattoo that's at hometowns.

14:59

They might, we haven't inspected

15:01

yet.

15:01

Hometowns are this week, you

15:04

guys.

15:04

Hometowns are so meaningful

15:07

because I'm needing their children

15:09

and their grandchildren. Yeah, let's

15:11

say that again, but slower.

15:14

Instead of meeting the parents. So

15:16

he has faith Leslie and Teresa, and

15:19

it's uncharted water. So he only wants to

15:21

say I love you to one more person in my life.

15:23

But then he goes against it.

15:24

Yeah, quickly, very quickly.

15:26

Quickly, within thirty six hours.

15:29

And I think he's really good at taking

15:31

instructions. And I think the producers

15:33

have done a really good job of coaching him.

15:35

Wow, I've heard that's

15:38

not true. Really, yeah, I've

15:40

heard he's literally so off. This

15:43

is Gary. I've heard this

15:45

is Gary.

15:46

Okay, I should make this clear. I don't think they

15:48

coach him on how to be authentic. I

15:50

think he this is my theory, okay, and you let

15:53

me know this. I think he's like, I

15:55

really don't want to hurt anybody's feelings,

15:58

how and they're like, here are some good friends?

16:00

Is to get around that? I honestly,

16:02

you really think that he just has these.

16:05

I honestly I have

16:07

it inside to worse Gary.

16:11

It's the grandson, it's Faith's grandson,

16:14

it's face horse. I

16:18

have that said. Basically, they

16:20

were trying to coach him

16:22

about like what to say at the cocktail parties.

16:24

I allegedly like they realize this

16:27

is the guy.

16:28

This is being there. It's right, it's

16:30

he's there. I don't think here.

16:32

I actually think he's that. I believe it because

16:35

we've watched Seth and I've watched so many

16:38

leads that have never even

16:40

come close to seeming this empathetic.

16:43

They're all very self absorbed idiots.

16:44

No, yeah, I definitely think he is.

16:47

I definitely think he is empathetic

16:49

and believable.

16:50

I don't know that they're nice enough on

16:52

this franchise to actually know how

16:54

to coach him this well.

16:56

I don't think he's being coached to be nice.

16:58

I don't think he's being coached to be nic.

17:00

But I so allegedly even some

17:02

of the frase like this is Gary,

17:05

that's this is like somehow.

17:07

I don't know if he went through therapy

17:10

with like some daughter or like something like.

17:12

So apparently he's saying this him thirty

17:14

years ago. Wasn't like that. He this

17:17

is him. He's had to evolve to.

17:18

Become ever since the accident, since

17:21

kept.

17:21

By that the logging trunk.

17:23

Okay, so, Teresa. Teresa's

17:26

in Shrewsbury, New Jersey.

17:28

Shrewsbury's actually a very nice town.

17:29

I gotta say that backyard was Guardias.

17:31

No, but I looked it up exactly where it is. It's

17:33

in a very fancy.

17:34

Area, Okay of Jersey, So Shrewsbury.

17:37

I know, I've driven through it a bunch and then I was like,

17:40

oh, it's right next to it's right next to where

17:42

bon Jovi lives.

17:42

Actually, Okay,

17:46

I that was a big tree they had.

17:48

Yeah, it's definitely there's a really good anthropology

17:50

there because that's where Teresa buys all Jesus

17:55

Christ.

17:56

They had well, I can tell you

17:59

watching him go in chemically,

18:02

he seemed hesitant with.

18:04

Her, and he's.

18:06

Like he didn't he I

18:08

could tell she's not in the running like he felt

18:10

like, so he seemed captured. He's

18:12

like, she was all in and

18:14

he's like, I did not expect

18:16

to feel the way I feel. He's

18:18

like, but when you put your hand on my shoulder, it

18:20

made me feel calmic.

18:22

That was the most freest gumpy part to me. But

18:24

he's like, when you put your hand on my shoulder,

18:27

I felt very like,

18:30

oh God, this guy.

18:32

But I felt like he was trying to be kind

18:34

because he had to go through with the third hometown

18:36

and only two that.

18:37

He had to say something nice about him.

18:40

Yes, yes, that was.

18:41

It, because I think he did get freaked

18:43

out with the nancy of it all.

18:45

And so so we met

18:47

Mary, who's Teresa's daughter. She was adorable.

18:51

He was

18:53

so sincere. She was nice.

18:55

She seemed like a real person that we could

18:58

have gone to like college.

19:00

Seems like someone who has to take care of her mother.

19:02

Yes, yes, but she was like, she's here

19:04

every day, we see her

19:07

every day. Are you going to hurt

19:09

her? Because she will be really hurt

19:11

if I have.

19:12

To deal with that every day. I definitely

19:14

seem like the parent and that's a situation.

19:16

She's here every day, Oh my god.

19:18

And they were like when the kids are like, Nana's

19:21

lonely, Nana does selfies with duck lips.

19:23

Oh my god.

19:24

Okay, and then.

19:25

That's so funny. So they're outwardly making

19:27

fun of her. And then she's there's a try to be

19:29

like, are you guys talking about me? Like

19:31

a big smilen face, like yeah, they're genuinely

19:33

making fun of you.

19:34

So then she's pulled aside by her sister

19:37

and and so so at first they're

19:39

telling you and she's like she's talking about

19:41

She's like, and then I did, it's my birthday,

19:44

So do you want to see my birthday Sue?

19:46

And he was sweet, He's like, well, I have to look from the chin

19:48

up because chival chivalry

19:50

commands respect. It was just like he's

19:53

a gentleman.

19:54

I could I could only look at her daughter's

19:56

face when she was telling that story. Yeah, like

19:58

her just the rosen horror

20:01

on where was like, we agreed,

20:03

you wouldn't do that.

20:06

Just like Theresa went why

20:08

about this bit?

20:09

Over and over again we had it's

20:11

a different bit.

20:12

Yeh off roading, off

20:14

roading.

20:15

I got micro bladed. Yes,

20:17

her eyebrows were on. The

20:20

daughters eyebrows were fantastic.

20:22

I didn't see.

20:23

Yeah, they were really really good.

20:25

Like I was like, what is micro blading?

20:28

I don't have very exciting eye when.

20:30

You have roller blades super small.

20:33

I think it's like it's like, honestly

20:35

like a tattooing of eyebrows.

20:38

Yeah, oh so I could get

20:40

more exciting eyebrows.

20:41

Yeah yeah.

20:42

How long does it last?

20:44

I don't know.

20:44

Okay, great, the tattoo stays forever.

20:46

Now, I don't know. You know, who would

20:48

know Leslie and her entire extension.

20:53

What if all of their tattoos were tempts just

20:55

for a show, just tempo one

20:57

of those fake sleeves.

21:00

They got it like hot topic.

21:03

Just they were like, we are the most interesting

21:05

Jews, Anye dinah, you know what I mean? Just

21:08

tell that. They were so like we are

21:10

down in the suburb of Minneapolis.

21:12

Yeah, jesu, I'm

21:15

just that would be their Bravo show.

21:17

Oh my god, that would be the name

21:19

of.

21:21

Jews in the Dina.

21:23

Really Okay.

21:24

So then so then Teresa's

21:27

pulled by her sister. The sisters

21:29

like him that he's warm and he's gentle, and

21:31

she's like, she's like, I'm seventy, I'm competing

21:34

with this sixty year old. I thought that that bad.

21:36

You maybe have compassion for her. I mean, that's hard

21:38

to be seventy and like competing

21:40

with somebody ten years younger.

21:42

That's hard my head.

21:43

Well, it's just it just even cements

21:46

the point you're making before where she's like her

21:48

sisters were so my sister is like, well, obviously age doesn't

21:50

matter to him. I was like, no, you're filler for the

21:52

show. That's why you're here. It's all you're competing.

21:55

You're just someone.

21:56

Else, I know.

21:57

But I also just feel like it's Teresa being like

21:59

I'm the like

22:02

I do I take

22:04

a picture of me? Wait my duck lips like, I just

22:06

can't. When he said she's a

22:08

doll.

22:09

Oh right, that she climbs she's just

22:11

little and gets in.

22:13

Yeah, and I was like, yeah, that's she's a doll.

22:15

Yeah, a little tiny doll. And the oldest

22:18

doll.

22:20

Doll her other sisters.

22:22

Younger, one was younger when I was older.

22:24

She was a middle child.

22:25

Gorgeous, gorgeous family.

22:27

My mother is the middle of three girls. Okay,

22:30

and now that makes a ton of sense. How

22:33

she is my

22:36

mother is I used to say, my mom's

22:38

superpower. She can make everything about her because

22:41

she is very broken in a way,

22:43

and like needs to make everything about her and

22:45

she's always the victim and you need to take

22:47

care of her very similar.

22:49

Do you think it's because of the middle child?

22:51

Interests of three girls are probably two years

22:53

of part each.

22:54

Okay. So when I was visiting

22:56

my friend this weekend, there was a giant

22:59

pink bus that I I saw that said middle

23:01

sister consignment, And it was the craziest

23:04

drawing of a sheep and

23:07

it had like just the angriest

23:09

squiggly lines that was

23:11

so angry about being the

23:13

middle sister. And it was like the

23:15

sheep was like it was as if

23:18

somebody took like those bath

23:20

salts and then drew, like not even

23:22

Crystal met like drew so angrily

23:25

the worst black sheep of the family you

23:27

could possibly draw about being

23:29

the middle sister that's.

23:31

You know what you just nailed. What is so upsetting to me about

23:33

Teresa, Yeah, is because there

23:35

is so much rage there that

23:37

is literally down

23:40

and yeah it's the little baby doll dresses

23:43

and it's like, you know what I mean, it's

23:45

like she will never face the

23:48

rage, and so it comes out in this like

23:50

I'm competing against the sixty year old

23:53

Okay, okay, I don't know. Really,

23:56

she does bring out that that woman who was bullying her.

23:58

I was like, I see where it cat is coming from.

24:00

Jassy, you gotta zip ba

24:03

Teresa. So then she goes she's

24:06

like, I'm starting to fall

24:08

in love with him. And there are the three

24:11

girls. The grandchildren are they

24:13

say, she's always comes over a lot, she's always

24:16

lonely. She does a selfish

24:18

selfie, she does duck lips. I

24:21

mean, I feel bad.

24:22

For her badly for obviously

24:25

edited that way so we would. But yeah,

24:27

like if she's lonely, the

24:29

grandkids like, she's lonely all the time. I'm

24:32

four and.

24:34

The grandkids are like, she's constantly

24:36

taking pictures of herself. Grandma's

24:39

don't do grandma's take pictures of

24:42

the kids.

24:44

Turn around, Grandma she.

24:46

Takes pictures of herself and then goes

24:48

fucking duckless.

24:49

She takes of herself.

24:51

That's what she asked me to take pictures of

24:53

her all the time.

24:56

That is Teresa.

25:00

Stars of herself.

25:02

If you look at her phone, there's probably no pictures of the grandkids.

25:05

Maybe the ones that they pop in behind her.

25:09

I can tell her.

25:10

She's yeah, and she's always

25:12

taking pictures.

25:14

It's true, unbelievable.

25:16

All right, I see your put No, she's top.

25:19

He falls in bed and cries.

25:21

But she's so tiny, it doesn't you

25:23

don't even notice. She's just one of

25:25

the dollars. She

25:29

And just also the level of brunette.

25:32

I've been getting gray hair since my twenties

25:35

and I finally let it go at like you

25:38

look how old I look?

25:40

But turning on the TV and

25:42

just knowing the hours of brunette

25:45

that was going into that, Yeah, in

25:47

the salon, and then she showed up for the Rose

25:50

ceremony, and it was like, oh, you just spent another

25:52

six hours.

25:54

He loves a brunette. Tony loves Tony.

25:56

He's not a blonde guy. Ellen didn't stand a chance.

25:59

Ellen eyed her hair brown.

26:01

Yeah, he would have cried

26:03

more.

26:03

She should have cried more and been less of a good sport.

26:06

Yeah, she was.

26:06

Too good of a sport. Okay. So then

26:10

so then the daughter, who is so cool,

26:12

she's like, what do you like about my mom?

26:14

Tell me? And then I don't know what it

26:16

is.

26:17

What should I like about her? Anything?

26:20

Please?

26:20

And he said the way she looks at.

26:22

Me, which is what he said for everybody,

26:25

but it's like, that's not about them, but he

26:27

also says that, yeah,

26:29

everybody, the way she looks at me,

26:31

but.

26:32

Leaving that's what he really

26:34

likes about them. How I see myself in them?

26:36

Well? Yeah, how they look at me? Yea, yeah, yeah,

26:38

look, I like how you look at me. It's like looking

26:40

at her like he really says, the most

26:43

obvious When I look at you, I

26:45

see you looking at me. Oh

26:49

look looking at me? Yeah,

26:51

really looking.

26:51

At yeah yeah yeah. The way she looks

26:54

at me, she's really leaning

26:56

in. And then then the sisters.

26:59

The daughter said she's here every day normally,

27:03

and then she said, are you falling

27:05

in love with my mom? And you can

27:07

see him panic and he's like, well,

27:10

I'm not sure if this is what it feels

27:12

like to fall in love, meaning so no, absolutely

27:15

not.

27:15

Well, he really leaned on that dead

27:17

wife crutch really fast.

27:18

He goes, I

27:21

have that strong connection, but I know no right

27:23

now, as I mentioned, I had a dead

27:25

wife, it's been a minute since

27:28

it's been seventy two years

27:30

since I haven't falling in love. So then they

27:32

have a very pretty backyard. Shrewsbury

27:34

has nice yardage. And

27:36

then the sisters are there and

27:38

then they go. They

27:41

said to him, she's been looking for love for

27:43

a long time, and you two

27:45

are headed towards that. It's so

27:47

clear you fit in so nicely. And

27:50

he's like, she's like a little doll when I hug

27:52

her. And then they go,

27:54

she found her guy. I feel it for her. She's

27:56

on cloud nine. And then Teresa

27:58

goes, he's so handy, he's so great.

28:01

The daughter's overwhelmed talking to her

28:03

mom. She says, I'm falling in love

28:05

with you. And then the daughter said something cute,

28:08

we did go on the first one, the person you brought

28:10

home. That was a cute phrasing. I

28:12

hadn't heard the phrase way to go in a while.

28:15

I felt so much for the daughter in that moment, because

28:17

the daughter clearly already talked to him.

28:20

He had said, I'm not falling in love with your mother,

28:22

and then to come back and mom being like, I am falling

28:25

in love with way to go mom.

28:27

Yeah for the first

28:31

Yeah, that was sweet.

28:33

But she knew, she knew, and she knew she.

28:35

Was protecting her mother was and

28:37

I couldn't. That was heartbreaking for me.

28:39

It was hard. It was hard already watched.

28:41

It because daughter to protect me because

28:43

she had.

28:44

The information that her mom didn't have. Oh

28:46

it's okay, Sethy can be real here.

28:48

It was really hard, broken, cringey. It was so

28:50

cringey. I couldn't. Yeah, And when the

28:52

grandkids were like, you're gonna be our new pop pop. Yeah,

28:54

he was like, well we'll see. And I'm like,

28:56

why is this okay? I don't want to see this.

28:58

And then the daughter starts to crying.

29:00

Yes, she knows

29:03

the truth.

29:04

And then Teresa goes, I

29:07

am in love with you and

29:10

that makes me feel so he goes,

29:12

oh, Teresa, that makes me feel so

29:15

special. And then she said

29:17

this is the love I'm looking for. And then

29:19

he says, you know what. She

29:22

says, I can't picture a life without you. Then

29:24

they have fireworks and then

29:27

and then he.

29:27

Said, I don't have to picture. You're gonna

29:29

live it.

29:30

She says. He says afterwards,

29:32

not to her. I wanted to find love.

29:35

I have fallen in love again. I am in love

29:37

with Teresa. This is the love

29:39

I've been looking for. She could be the person

29:41

that comforts me. I could be the person

29:44

that comforts her. He's talked to himself

29:46

into loving Teresa. By the end of the day, truth very

29:49

says hers on take it away.

29:51

I felt like that last sentence, that last thing

29:54

when he was interviewed was like the most

29:56

like word soup of like simplicity

29:58

or saying like I could be her person and

30:00

guess what she could be

30:02

fine, Like he's just thinking that for the first

30:05

time ever in his life. No one's ever thought that thought

30:07

before. Yes, I

30:10

I think he was trying really hard

30:12

to be the guy they want him

30:14

to be, and I think he knows

30:16

that he's not going to be. Yeah, but he's like,

30:18

how can I I have to go meet these people, I

30:21

have to be nice to them. I have to let them think I'm in love with her.

30:23

She clearly needs this, and

30:25

I don't know how to walk this tight rope. But he did

30:27

his best.

30:27

I'm enough of a people pleaser that I

30:30

could see myself if I was

30:32

Gary without the tools.

30:35

Even now, I could see myself panic,

30:38

get captured. Go okay,

30:40

yeah, okay, I could see a life

30:43

with Bob. Yeah, this is nice.

30:45

Bob's nice. Her family was

30:47

nice. She did she didn't have any red flags, and the family

30:50

was great.

30:50

Actually she's the red flag.

30:52

She's the red flag. So I could see being like everybody

30:54

else was actually very cool, and the place

30:56

was nice, like comfortable, like yeah, okay,

30:59

all right, yeah, there's nothing wrong

31:01

here except for that person. But the

31:03

family's cool. The yard is nice.

31:05

I feel like one of the sisters would have been a

31:08

better fit. The sisters,

31:10

they just seem more stable.

31:12

Yeah.

31:13

They gorgeous skin, Oh my.

31:14

God, gorgeous.

31:16

There was something else I was gonna say. I forgot what it was, right, It

31:20

was just I felt like, I

31:23

don't know he did.

31:24

He talked to himself, and he talked.

31:25

He had so many words he had to say where He's

31:28

like, are you falling in love? And he's like, well, I have feelings.

31:30

Let's think what these feelings are. These feelings are nice, yeah,

31:32

towards her, And he's trying to be as honest

31:34

as he possibly could, not being a dick.

31:36

Well, it was also the first one he

31:38

went on. And I'm sure it's brutal

31:42

having a nice family be

31:45

so welcoming. There was no weird relative,

31:49

like would you there's two other women? Like nobody

31:51

did that. They were like, I'm sure it's very

31:53

confusing where they're like, wow,

31:56

we can see how happy they finally are.

31:58

They're so lonely.

31:59

Yeah, well, do you know?

32:01

And I also think Teresa's probably brought

32:03

home some real I mean, she hasn't brought home anybody.

32:06

Way to go, mom, but she's

32:08

definitely talked about some guys that they like, yeah,

32:10

god.

32:12

Doesn't have a social Security number.

32:13

Yeah, this is not a good guy.

32:15

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

32:18

Oh, I know. I'm sure she's just

32:20

like that daughter

32:23

has her hands full before

32:25

and really now, but

32:27

maybe somebody watching loves a bird with a

32:29

broken wing and wants to fly swoop into

32:31

Shrewsbury.

32:33

She's not the one. Yeah, he does, you would

32:35

end up with her if there was two others weren't involved.

32:37

You think he just met her sort

32:40

of.

32:40

Like a little bit tougher.

32:41

I think I think she's too she's

32:44

too broken for him, it's dull.

32:45

I think he likes a little bit tough.

32:47

You don't want to like it, don't try, don't knot to try.

32:51

Any final thoughts on Teresa.

32:54

I I I think

32:56

if the family thinks she's a burden, now,

32:59

yeah, wait till she gets fully

33:01

heartbroken in a week and then she never

33:03

leaves the house. She's like, like, sleeps

33:06

there with the kids.

33:07

You're just doing to selfies.

33:09

Yes, she's in bed crying.

33:12

She's never taken a picture of the cricket

33:15

before they were little

33:18

to know how lonely grandma is and only

33:20

take pictures of herself.

33:21

You're observant.

33:22

But that was also another moment of like

33:24

of him when they were like, she does duck

33:26

clips and he's like, oh, you are

33:29

precious. God,

33:31

you are a blankly my friend.

33:34

I love Carett.

33:36

Worried about anyone is life?

33:37

Yeah he was. I'm sure

33:39

he'd never heard the phrase duck clips.

33:42

No he didn't.

33:42

I bet he'd never heard that.

33:44

Yeah.

33:45

There was an episode where one of your guests was

33:47

like, I don't think he's ever had sex with anybody his

33:50

wife, And I was like, what are you talking about?

33:52

She's maybe that's true.

33:54

No of course it's not true. You say,

33:57

yeah, he's fucked you

34:00

think he's not.

34:01

How many women?

34:02

How many women as he fucked before his wife

34:04

or after after? Maybe

34:06

during okay, okay, okay,

34:09

okay.

34:09

At least twenty what she's

34:12

been there for six years?

34:14

Do you think he's fucked twenty women?

34:16

Yeah?

34:16

Okay, maybe?

34:17

How many? Do you think sex?

34:19

Four?

34:20

I'm gonna go splee the d I'm

34:23

gonna say. I'm gonna say

34:25

sex.

34:26

I'm gonna go blead

34:28

the Deslie's

34:30

famous for it.

34:34

I'm gonna have a shirt that says that.

34:37

I'm and I think it's six. I'm

34:39

gonna say sex.

34:40

But I like that.

34:41

I like that you think that's like a whole

34:43

new perspective, mean.

34:45

That he's sort of like a dog who's kind of

34:47

like putting it on a little bit, if.

34:48

It's necessarily a dog thing to do. I

34:50

think, I mean, you know,

34:52

you're.

34:53

Right, sex and twenty and six

34:55

years is three a year,

34:57

three plus a year.

34:59

I think you know he's he's a hot commodity

35:02

in like a widow divorcee community.

35:04

Yeah again, somewhere

35:06

in Indiana.

35:07

Somewhere Indiana.

35:08

Yeah, all

35:11

right, I.

35:13

Actually splee it. You just

35:15

teed the day, splee

35:18

the date like twelve.

35:21

I know, I don't think it's

35:23

twelve. I think he's

35:26

was heartbroken over to a million.

35:29

And I think he's

35:31

simple, and I think

35:34

he's milkshake

35:37

innocent, you know what

35:39

I mean, not even chocolate. Yeah, he's like

35:41

a milkshake.

35:42

Yeah, you know, but remember

35:44

the movie Big Yeah, still

35:48

got laid. It's

35:51

twelve years old. I still

35:53

got that was himself,

35:56

I know, but that's what I'm saying. I think, despite himself,

36:00

I don't think he's a dick.

36:01

You're right, you're right, because he's a handsome guy

36:03

that women are going to be like.

36:04

But he's lonely and he's felt love and

36:06

he's open and he hasn't closed down.

36:08

Yeah.

36:08

Speaking of therapy, I did read an article

36:11

that he did go to grief counseling after a few years

36:13

good and.

36:14

Then you think he had sex with his grief

36:16

counsel.

36:18

Well, he said at the second session

36:20

session number two.

36:21

Yeah.

36:22

Councler was like, I think you're doing great.

36:24

I think you need to give yourself credit. And he was like,

36:27

and that's when my opinion of therapy changed. I was like,

36:29

you went to two sis I can. But

36:31

again the person talking to him is like,

36:33

you're fine, You're exactly

36:35

what I need to see, Like, wow,

36:38

you know what mean?

36:38

Yeah?

36:39

I think we all just put what we want to cipher.

36:42

Yeah, okay, Or we're going to take a quick

36:44

break and we're going to come back with well

36:50

I think it would be nice if I

36:52

could touch your body.

36:57

We'll be right back. I

37:05

need a sexual time out and

37:11

we're back. Hey, listen, kids.

37:13

Once upon a time there was a group called Wham

37:15

and then one of them split off and they

37:17

were heart throbs for young

37:20

girls everywhere. Turned

37:22

out it was maybe,

37:25

uh it was slightly misleading, and

37:28

George Michael was so hot, super handsome

37:31

and uh he liked the fellas

37:33

and he came out with an album that was also

37:36

like don't put Me in a Box. One of the

37:38

songs it's so good called

37:40

Faith, But what was the other? Oh frieda Because

37:44

I think about him kind of coming into terms like this

37:46

is who I am.

37:47

Well, the whole video was about this is this is who I am.

37:49

I'm not going to be good

37:51

freedom and women everywhere are like yes

37:54

yeah because it was

37:56

was it Naomi Campbell in that video?

37:59

Christian Yeah, models in.

38:00

That's right, and you're like, yeah, I'm gonna fuck it too.

38:05

He burns the Faith jacket in the in

38:07

the Freedom.

38:07

Video whoa because he

38:10

was like, don't put me in the box.

38:12

Well, seriously, don't put me

38:14

in your box. I don't like

38:17

men. Stop with the box.

38:19

Care Speaking of boxes, Gary's

38:21

putting each one of them in the box. He's got

38:23

the Leslie box, he's got the Teresa

38:25

box, and he's got the Faith box. So we're

38:28

up to the Faith box.

38:29

That was such a good segue.

38:30

That was better than normal. It's

38:32

usually not good at all. Here we are,

38:34

we're with Faith. We're in Benton City,

38:37

Washington. She's she rides her horse.

38:39

I looked that up too. That's super remote, is

38:41

it? Yeah?

38:42

Where are we in western Washington?

38:44

Southern right by the Oregon border.

38:47

So she rides her horse to the grocery

38:49

store in the tavern. That's cool. Yeah, And

38:53

on the horse, he

38:55

wasn't horny for Teresa. He

38:58

goes this is that like,

39:00

I think Teresa,

39:03

I am in love with Teresa. I

39:05

am in love with the Teresa. And then he was like, why didn't

39:07

you ride that horse? I can't

39:09

take my eyes off for you you're either going to be number

39:11

seven or twenty one

39:14

split the day. So then

39:17

so then she gets him on the horse. I was worried about

39:20

him.

39:20

I thought he was gonna he was scared to be on the horse.

39:22

If I could tell, I loved it because of the helicopter

39:25

thing, because she's scared of heights. Yep,

39:27

for getting that helicopter. I'm

39:29

not even that scared of heights.

39:31

But you don't want to go on a helicopter.

39:32

No, those things are so dangerous. And

39:34

she went in there and she did it. I'm scared

39:36

of horses.

39:37

I'm also scared of horses. I'd rather ride a helicopter

39:39

than a horse.

39:39

But I love that she kind of it kind

39:41

of felt like you made me give him a helicopter, and

39:45

he did, and he did and they're both good sports.

39:47

And it's like, you guys are good and he handled it very well.

39:49

And then they tell he.

39:50

Was scared and they kissed on the horse.

39:51

Yeah.

39:52

And then she made out with her horse, which

39:55

was weird, and he watched.

39:56

He watched as she split split the da sleeve.

39:58

That horse's deep. Look

40:02

at you you're making out with the horse.

40:05

I like how you look at the horse, and

40:08

the horse looks at me.

40:10

No, you know what, I gave the horse a rose.

40:13

I do like the horse looks. I

40:16

do feel like part

40:18

of being good at sex is being a good sport,

40:21

and I feel like they're both good sports.

40:23

Yeah, I agree, I agree with you.

40:26

So so then so then he was

40:28

horny for her, free with her hair

40:30

ride and riding that horse. He's like, I

40:32

could picture her lay in the day. And

40:35

then he's so then she's

40:37

like, I'm very comfortable in this house.

40:40

Where would we spend time. I'm

40:42

not going to be. He's like, well, I'm not gonna want to be

40:44

without you. And he's like,

40:46

She's like, well, my horse died and it is buried

40:48

here, and this is where my dead horse is.

40:50

And I was like, okay, yeah,

40:53

so here's what I really liked about seeing where she

40:55

lived.

40:56

Yeah.

40:57

Is you know again, listening to the cast,

41:00

you describe faith and you were not a faith fan.

41:02

No, I wasn't. I didn't. I don't trust

41:04

in the beginning. When somebody

41:07

pulls out a guitar so

41:09

early to sing an original song, a

41:12

giant acoustic guitar.

41:14

It helps that I did not see. That helps.

41:17

It helps that I saw when she talked about

41:19

being.

41:21

These are the two episodes that I came around

41:23

on her. If I just met her, not a

41:25

problem.

41:25

But so also knowing that she's a radio DJ,

41:28

I was like, oba, but then seeing

41:30

she has like you're a small market DJ,

41:33

and actually you're in a dying

41:35

field. I love saying that in a

41:37

recording studio, but it's not easy,

41:41

because podcast.

41:45

Easy.

41:47

But I was just like, she's had

41:49

to be the broad do you know what I mean? Like

41:52

a woman in radio Like yeah,

41:55

And I feel like there's a part of me that's like, oh, she

41:57

actually is ready for this softness.

41:59

I liked her more and her sons

42:01

were so really like her sons

42:03

were. She's like, I want to be close to my

42:05

sons. I'm not sure how to reconcile this. He's

42:08

like, let's just see how today, he goes. Her sons

42:10

were loveless, loveless

42:13

twins.

42:14

I don't know, they look like twins. Buty

42:16

couldn't tell.

42:17

So the sister is very

42:19

guarded, and this sister is

42:21

like, He's like, when I saw your mom come

42:23

in on that motorcycle with the hair

42:25

toss, She's like, I did it. I did the hair.

42:28

Toss, and it's like they talked about the hair

42:30

toss for probably thirty minutes. It

42:33

was like, enough, we get it. She's a goddamn hair toss.

42:37

I'm gonna come to your birthday party and do a hair

42:39

toss this. So then she's so

42:42

the sister's like, you know, and

42:44

they're like, well, she doesn't give those looks

42:46

that easily. Life has been hard for

42:48

Faith, you know, and

42:51

she has her walls up, she's had safety

42:53

things, she's and she's like, well, I have a

42:55

whole different feeling, and she said

42:58

I'm so, I'm so was

43:00

smitten and I'm

43:02

actually I feel like they're a nice pair.

43:04

I loved when the sister was like, I have

43:06

not seen you look like this. She's like, there's usually

43:09

something yeah in front of your eyes. That

43:11

actually made it cheer. I was like, nothing's gonna make

43:13

me cry. And then when she was like, there's

43:15

no wile up behind her.

43:17

That was nice here because she's

43:19

because at first, again, she was so good

43:21

at the eye lock that I didn't trust it and it

43:24

felt like, oh, she must do this with everyone, and then

43:26

hearing from her sister that this is unusual

43:28

made me feel like that was more authentic. How

43:30

did you feel, Sad?

43:32

I felt like I

43:35

don't know, I felt the whole thing where

43:37

there was some moment that happened that was really interesting

43:39

in that whole thing.

43:40

So then she okay, she says I would leave here

43:43

in a heartbeat, hard and fast with him.

43:45

Oh, because he says he brings up immediately with her,

43:47

how are we going to do this? Where are we going to live?

43:49

Like he brings up immediately is if it's like a hurdle. I

43:51

couldn't tell if he brought it up as like I think, let's

43:53

work this out, or like no, let's just canceled

43:55

the whole thing because we can't make it work.

43:57

No, no, no, I think I think he was trying

43:59

to figure it out. And then he was like, well, let's just see because

44:01

I actually think he's trying to make your work because he likes

44:03

her, right and then so so apparently

44:06

when she falls, she falls hard, and

44:08

then.

44:09

So she would leave Benton City for him.

44:11

Maybe, but they're trying to figure that out. So they said to

44:13

her, he's not.

44:14

Going to move to Benon City and ride nurses

44:16

around. No, he's a city slicker from Indiana.

44:19

Yeah, I did love

44:21

the two that she was like, he's from the city

44:24

country Like he thinks that he's from

44:26

I love that's She's like.

44:28

No, you're from suburbia. This is the country.

44:30

I am from the country and people like I'm from the country.

44:33

Was like, I we don't have a stop

44:35

light. We have a general store, the coffee

44:37

shops, and an apple orchard in a barn,

44:39

like I'm from the country. Yeah, there's

44:41

donkeys. You could go visit the donkeys, you know.

44:44

So then they say to her, are you in love? And

44:46

she's like, yeah, I kind of am. And the

44:48

sister says, you usually have a protective wall

44:50

around her. She's like, well, my heart

44:52

is feeling soft, and

44:54

they said she said, I love that you have made

44:57

me feel safe, and

44:59

then the c said I would love for her

45:01

to be happy. They seem like they're in love,

45:04

and then the daughter the

45:06

sister goes, you know, I don't really like to

45:09

acknowledge that love is a thing. I'm like,

45:11

oh, that's a red flag. She's like and then

45:13

they say the grandson says,

45:15

are you going to marry her? And he goes,

45:17

I might. You want to be my best man. I'm like

45:19

easy, And then the sister says, you

45:22

are so sweet, and then he

45:25

says to the sister, can you take care of

45:27

her while I'm gone? And then

45:29

they go, we all see that you're in love with each

45:31

other. Would you say that out loud? And

45:33

they both said in front of everyone, I

45:35

love you. I love you too. And

45:38

then he goes, I love looking. I

45:40

love the way the look in her eye.

45:43

You look at me, And.

45:44

He goes, I look at you, and he said

45:46

I had to say the words I love

45:48

her. And then they go and

45:51

then he goes and she goes. Before I get

45:53

in, she goes, I'm going to count the minutes

45:55

until I'm with you again. We are

45:57

in love with each other. I thought she

46:00

was a good sport. They were kissing, and she waited till he

46:02

drove away to have her sad moment. But she wasn't

46:04

super who wouldn't be scared.

46:06

But I'm rooting for faith

46:09

I have.

46:09

That's a different between

46:11

Faith and Teresa.

46:12

I would say this, I agree with you. Until

46:14

last night, I thought Faith. He was gonna pick Faith.

46:16

Faith likes, but I feel like he

46:19

was really hesitant with her in a way I wasn't expecting.

46:22

And really, when he said I said

46:24

I love you, but I felt only said it because

46:26

I felt.

46:26

Compelled to see That's not how I read it.

46:28

That changed my mind about how he feels

46:30

about the whole.

46:31

I read it as, oh fuck. I

46:33

told myself I wouldn't tell anybody I love

46:35

you. They don't want to be in trouble. So

46:38

and then I did it, and I shouldn't

46:40

have done that. And that's also why I feel

46:42

like he felt more free to say it to Leslie. Okay,

46:45

yeah, I mean I do.

46:46

I fear Leslie's gonna win, but

46:49

I felt like he was say I looked

46:51

her in the eye and I could not say it. I had

46:53

to tell her. That's how I read it. He

46:56

was so because I feel like there's a

46:58

more of a softness with Faith, Like

47:00

I actually feel like if he married, Faith.

47:03

Is the strongest emotionally of the.

47:04

Three, There's like a depth there.

47:06

I actually think even have a nice life together.

47:09

I think that I can't believe I'm

47:11

rooting for Faith, but I am.

47:12

I think she seems like the most

47:14

normal now.

47:15

She feels the most grounded.

47:16

Yes, of the three, and what

47:19

does the sister do? It's funny since she like a healer

47:21

and She's like, I don't think love's a thing. I

47:24

have the selection of like love stones

47:26

you could pick if you want to find a mate. You

47:30

know what I'm saying. Doesn't that her job? She

47:33

I think she's a healer love.

47:37

If you believe in the myth of love the fallacy.

47:40

But I have a potion I made.

47:43

I do feel like that thing in the beginning

47:45

where he was like, how are we going to make this work

47:47

because you are like three thousand miles away? Yes,

47:49

But then it was because I'm going to

47:51

want to see you all the time.

47:53

Yeah.

47:53

It wasn't just like how are we gonna need you every day? Yeah?

47:55

Yeah, I'm not going to want to live without you.

47:57

Yeah.

47:59

I hope he.

48:01

Doesn't have to truck her horses out to Indiana.

48:03

I mean, he can't. She can't.

48:04

She can't, she can't, she can't.

48:06

You're gonna take that dirt and and

48:08

just bring the urn of a horse And she.

48:10

Could run a radio station.

48:12

Say she's yeah, she can totally do

48:14

this. And she's the young one.

48:16

They could spend, so they could spend. They

48:18

could spend summer. I guess it's lake a summer time.

48:20

They could spend the fall in the in Benton,

48:23

you know, ride horses. Her

48:26

sons were so sweet.

48:28

I really like them.

48:29

They were adorable.

48:31

I really like them.

48:31

They were gentle. Yeah, and

48:35

it was just like a nice The sister was

48:37

the most guarded, but I'm gonna guess they've all been through

48:39

it.

48:40

But it also again like the sister was like

48:43

her sister's like, you've had it really hard. And

48:45

that's that that thing too, where it's like, well,

48:47

if your relative has had it really hard, you've also had

48:50

it hard. Yeah, you know what I mean.

48:52

Yeah, at least had one of

48:54

the same parents.

48:56

But it felt different than when Teresa's

48:58

sisters were like she's really hard.

49:01

It's just like.

49:05

Teresa's a really nice house. And she was like,

49:07

I'm like it feels like faith is

49:10

head up, harder hands.

49:11

Or like Teresa thinks she's having it really

49:13

hard. All the time, she

49:17

was.

49:17

Homeless, like you have no parents.

49:19

Didn't she like run away? Right?

49:20

I think for I think there was no I don't

49:23

even know she ran away. I couldn't tell I

49:25

didn't.

49:26

It felt like also she sort of did quotes with

49:28

homeless, and it just reminded me of teenagers who

49:30

just like couldn't sleep in their homes or

49:32

like would get kicked out or something, and so

49:34

they were friends houses, which is still horrible

49:36

like you don't have at home, but like genuinely

49:39

it also felt like she doesn't feel sorry for herself.

49:42

No, it didn't feel like a sob

49:44

store.

49:44

No, it just felt like, Okay, let me tell you a little

49:47

bit more about me.

49:47

And the thing that made me feel better about

49:49

the guitar thing was when she

49:52

was like, I'm not a great singer, like

49:54

I'm a fine but this it soothed me.

49:56

It made me go, Okay, she's not trying to get a record.

49:58

And has she brought up the guitar since then?

50:01

No, I haven't noticed it.

50:03

That she might have done it in the talent ship, but they didn't

50:05

edit it that good.

50:07

Yeah, but anyone, even at a party and

50:09

someone brings out a guitar, you're like, I'm suspicious with this

50:11

person. Oh my god, I already hate this person.

50:14

In college, the amount of like three

50:16

chord like Neil Young songs, I just listen

50:19

to a dorm room. It's like Harvest

50:22

Moon. I'm just like, I

50:24

can't you learn another song?

50:27

The only thing then the guy who brings

50:29

out the guitar to party is the guy who's like sitting,

50:32

can I get it? Can I can? I see that? Meant me, noodle,

50:34

do you mind? Do you mind if I do it? And then he wants he's not as

50:36

good as that guy, but he wants to try it out.

50:38

He wants to put his dick on the table

50:40

next to his friend tried to put up.

50:43

Wow.

50:44

All right, so so we all agree

50:46

that we're actually all now rooting for faith,

50:49

and unfortunately we think

50:52

he doesn't gotta have faith. I don't think

50:54

he's having freedom

50:57

equals Leslie. He's going to

50:59

burn the faith backet and go to Leslie's

51:03

talk.

51:03

Wait, did you think that before

51:06

she he went to Leslie? Or once he got

51:08

to Leslie?

51:09

Once he got once.

51:10

He got there, saw what was happening, I'm like, oh, he's

51:12

picking her.

51:12

I know. I was like, oh shit, no, what about

51:14

faith? You just look and you looked each other

51:17

in the eye in front of her grandchildren.

51:20

Two sets of grandchildren.

51:21

Yeah.

51:23

I couldn't believe what I was watching. I was like, why

51:25

are you dragging these poorknos and kids?

51:28

So brutal?

51:29

All those kids don't care hopefully

51:31

so resilient kids producers

51:34

are saying, say, will you marry my nana?

51:39

By the way, Leslie, Leslie's

51:41

great kids were so ready

51:44

for their close up, it almost felt like Jonathan.

51:47

They felt like Jonathan Lift Nikky. It

51:49

felt like Jonathan Lift Nikki about like the Human Headways

51:51

fifteen. Little

51:53

Girl, she was adorable.

51:56

But a movie called Jerry Maguire in ninety

51:58

six. Okay, you younger

52:00

viewers, you.

52:02

Have a nineties tribute episode that

52:05

little girl.

52:05

She went to props and was like, I think I need

52:07

a pair of glasses.

52:11

Yeah, that girl looks so much like my

52:14

four year old. Oh yes,

52:16

slightly blonder, but like my girls, same

52:18

glasses. I'm like, oh my god, that's

52:21

like a little citvy oh

52:25

adorable, And I immediately felt bad.

52:26

For she was adorable.

52:29

I felt protective of her as well. But she definitely

52:31

got prop classes and reminded me of John.

52:34

She got her moments, she got They literally

52:36

showed at the end them just going

52:38

through questions that producers,

52:40

by the way, they mentioned.

52:42

And her little sweet little list was

52:44

so cute.

52:45

Practice that forever.

52:47

She was so cute.

52:48

So how do you want me to sound like with a little

52:50

with a little.

52:51

List, It was it was Teresa and a wig and glasses,

52:58

trying.

52:58

To inspect the other with

53:00

me the whole time.

53:02

Do you like Teresa?

53:04

Faith?

53:06

Who Teresa's the best?

53:07

Right?

53:07

Do you even know who Teresa is?

53:12

Already? Will be right back.

53:19

Bones zone.

53:21

Let's get in the bone zone, guys, and

53:25

we're back.

53:27

Leslie. Guys.

53:28

Guys, here we are. So Faith

53:30

has been elegant, Faith and her sweet

53:33

sons. Faith has been alien and

53:36

Ellien. Ellien's okay

53:43

in.

53:45

Gozales.

53:47

So he goes, well, here I am in Minneapolis.

53:50

I had a Faith box, I had a Teresa

53:52

box, and now I'm in my Leslie box.

53:55

And Leslie so much dirtier than he

53:57

meant.

53:57

I know, I'm excited to see Leslie.

54:00

He's like, I've seen legs Leslie the sexy

54:02

one, but now I get to see Leslie the matriarch.

54:05

So matronly is what he meant

54:08

to say.

54:08

So then he goes he's like, She's like, you're

54:10

gonna be my brother, Stuart. I have other

54:12

brothers. But when I was in

54:15

high school, my dad dropped me off of school

54:18

and then dad didn't show up, and then Stewart

54:20

picked me up, and he's like, I'm your

54:22

dad now. And then he was like,

54:24

because Dad died. I was like, wait what.

54:27

It's just so braded

54:29

in some kind of weird way, right, it was.

54:31

A weird drop off and pick

54:33

up. He died.

54:34

It definitely felt like.

54:38

The important part.

54:39

Yeah, I felt because I was like in my mind,

54:41

in my mind, I'm like, Dad laughed. But

54:43

then it was like maybe yeah,

54:46

no, no, no, no, no dad, she

54:48

said, my dad passed away. Something

54:51

bad happened.

54:53

So then look I thought, I

54:55

honestly thought it was death basically side the way

54:57

she said it, yeah, going

55:00

yeah, yeah, which is yeah.

55:03

So then the so then the brother took over as

55:05

the father, and then and then

55:07

she said he's

55:10

a mensch. And and in Jewish culture,

55:12

a mention is a good person. And Gary's like, oh

55:14

cool. And then she's never

55:16

heard that, and she goes, she goes,

55:18

and she goes, and you're a minch. You're a mensch on

55:20

a bed.

55:21

Thank you so much. Oh. I like

55:23

that. I like your mouth when

55:25

you say the words that sounds

55:27

that sounds that's a funny word.

55:29

So Stuart is concerned

55:31

about his sister. Stuar is playing the only part

55:34

of the typical would

55:36

you say about my sister, you got two other or

55:38

the dad. We need at least.

55:40

One relative was like the aggressive,

55:43

like, what are you doing here? Would you even like like her?

55:45

You got other women on the Yeah, you're just out.

55:47

You're being Gary, Gary of twenty

55:49

not Gary of six and so you know

55:51

we didn't slay the d. Gary, you just did

55:53

the D. So then he's

55:55

like, I'm concerned. I'm concerned about my sister

55:59

and just.

56:00

He had the goate of a real

56:02

doucher.

56:03

Yeah. Yes, Stuart Stewart

56:05

was tough.

56:06

Stuart. Yeah, star was

56:09

Stuart was.

56:10

They were at brick and mortar like an Airbnb,

56:12

which is.

56:13

Funny because they it looked like someone's house, but they're

56:15

like, oh no, you're at a space you rented.

56:17

Just looks like why

56:19

weren't we allowed in the house there? That

56:21

was weird.

56:21

That's good. They got like a nice.

56:24

Like a event space that looks like an apartment

56:26

kind.

56:26

Yeah, like kind of like I'm like, well, they have to like a cool

56:29

industrial brick

56:31

and mortar.

56:32

But also yeah that we're going to give the name of

56:34

it. So there's also some free they

56:36

got it for free, yeah, which is

56:38

it was just very something was weird.

56:40

Where's the house. Why don't we fill

56:42

the house with pure one candles like we do every

56:44

other house.

56:46

And the whole thing is like, we're going to see you

56:48

be a matriarch, Like what's going

56:50

on your home?

56:51

You were seems like staged

56:54

and we were told.

56:55

And so then they're sitting there and then for them. So then

56:57

Stuart does this full classic Douche

57:00

family. He was like, She's like, He's like, so, Leslie,

57:02

doesn't it bother you that there's two other girls left.

57:05

She's like, you know me, what do you think?

57:07

And then I'm a fucking train right

57:09

yeah, and I make the other women comfort

57:11

me.

57:12

Yeah.

57:13

So then she's like she's like, I mean,

57:15

the daughter is like, I'm excited and nervous.

57:17

I don't want my mom to get hurt.

57:20

I mean, I felt bad again. I

57:23

wouldn't want my mom to Who wants

57:25

their mom.

57:26

To get hurt In the same Teresa fashion, seems

57:28

like she's the caretaker for the mother. Yeah,

57:30

and the mother is wounded. Yeah, the daughter

57:32

has to pick up all that stuff.

57:33

She was like, it would kill me. Look, I would feel

57:35

protective if my mom went on and really like

57:37

Gary, it'd be hard to see. But

57:40

but yeah.

57:41

It was Stuart's protective but not

57:43

a caretaker.

57:44

No no, no, no, no, Stuart's

57:46

just a little bit of a bully. Stuart, I

57:48

feel like is picking up a lot of like

57:51

checks. Do you know what I mean?

57:53

Do you know what I mean?

57:54

I think he like picks up the finances. I

57:57

felt like the daughter was like, I'm gonna

57:59

have to take care of her, but for her that means

58:01

like, oh, we're gonna have to go to Cobo, and

58:04

like I feel

58:06

like Teresa's daughter was like she's gonna be here, I'm

58:08

gonna have to cook like all this food

58:12

and like yeah, right, Leslie's daughter

58:14

was like, we're gonna.

58:15

Have to go on a crazy trip three weeks.

58:17

Yeah, and we have to go to Cobo for three

58:19

weeks.

58:20

She's gonna like wear on my clothes again.

58:22

Oh yeah, try to pick up other men.

58:24

Yes, she's gonna have to

58:26

say that we're sisters. Yeah yeah,

58:30

but yeah. I genuinely felt it for

58:32

Teresa's daughter where she started crying

58:34

and she was like, you're not He's not

58:36

in love with you, and I'm gonna have to deal with it. And it felt

58:39

more like Leslie's daughter was.

58:41

Like, Okay,

58:43

here we go, We're going to combo.

58:45

Yeah.

58:46

So then so then she's

58:48

like, I don't want to see my mom hurt, kill

58:50

me to see your heartbroken. She's

58:52

like, I just always feel like I'm not good enough.

58:55

No one chose me. They always chose

58:57

other people. And then the daughter

58:59

says the daughter says this, and I hate this

59:01

phrasing. She said this, My

59:04

mom is literally my

59:07

best friend. First of all, it's literally,

59:09

yeah, but it's tie.

59:11

It doesn't make it any more real. If you say like,

59:13

like doesn't make it anymore.

59:15

Literal, Yeah, it doesn't make

59:17

it anymore literal. Literal,

59:21

She's literally my best

59:23

friend. Dad phrasing literally

59:26

I cannot. I cannot.

59:28

Yeah, I can't and I.

59:29

Cannot and I will not, Tammy.

59:32

There's just so many things that I hate about

59:34

it on every level because I

59:36

just also feel like it's that thing where she's

59:39

like, she made her children to

59:41

worship her to be all the things that she

59:44

feels like she doesn't get. And I feel like she

59:46

also is like, yeah, she chooses prince, she

59:48

chooses the Moroccan restaurant

59:51

tour stars. She chooses these guys

59:53

who are huge stars who will cheat on her. I

59:56

picked her out her children.

59:57

In my draft picks. I picked her out as

59:59

like the trouble.

1:00:00

Maker fire starter, right, not

1:00:02

the winner.

1:00:03

No, I picked her at as like the ship star. She's

1:00:06

going to be the villain because she's because.

1:00:07

She's she wasn't eventually cast as the villain,

1:00:10

was she?

1:00:10

No, we didn't really have a villain,

1:00:12

which I like, yeah, I guess Nancy,

1:00:15

not Nancy, Kathy, I guess,

1:00:17

and Theresa, but like, we didn't have

1:00:19

a villain, but she but she did cry,

1:00:22

she she was emotional

1:00:24

energy.

1:00:24

Oh yes.

1:00:25

So then she goes and she forced other people to take

1:00:27

care of her. I'm like, they're literally in the same

1:00:29

position as they're literally they're

1:00:32

literally literally

1:00:35

in the same position.

1:00:36

Funny trait of the everyone's in the same position,

1:00:39

but the women, there's a few of them who like made

1:00:41

everyone else take care of them as if they were more victim

1:00:43

than they fascinating to make fascinating.

1:00:46

So then the

1:00:49

child goes, is it truth?

1:00:53

Is it true that you love my

1:00:55

grandma? And

1:00:58

and then he's like, I think Ama really

1:01:00

likes you. And she's

1:01:05

like, it's strange that you're dating

1:01:07

other people and there's two other people.

1:01:09

She's like well that feels he said, that feels strange

1:01:11

to me too, and like we're protective of her.

1:01:14

And then he goes, she could be the one person.

1:01:17

And then he says to her, oh no, they

1:01:19

say about She says to him, you

1:01:21

are so out of the box from

1:01:23

what she's used to dating. And

1:01:26

then he says to Stuart, would I have

1:01:28

your blessing? And he'd be like, I'd be happy to give you

1:01:30

my blessing. So she's definitely

1:01:32

been dating like bad.

1:01:34

Boys, yeah, and stars.

1:01:36

And if he's not the star of the TV

1:01:39

show, she is not going to be interested him.

1:01:41

She doesn't want to move to Indiana

1:01:43

and hang out in Indiana with his kids.

1:01:46

No, she's got like a dance studio.

1:01:48

She does. She has a dance student.

1:01:49

Remember when she did like that sexy dads

1:01:51

on stage.

1:01:53

She's not going to leave the fascinating

1:01:56

world of Milwaukee or Minneapolis

1:02:00

then.

1:02:01

The sense or wherever we who knows. We

1:02:03

didn't see it, brick and mortar.

1:02:05

And mortar, Yeah, I know you see that.

1:02:07

I didn't we see it because that's

1:02:09

her thing is she does not show you who

1:02:11

she really is. She and this is why I think

1:02:14

this is how she gets her choice.

1:02:15

Not the show's choice.

1:02:17

Oh for sure.

1:02:18

Do you think the show wanted to go to her house? She's like, we're not,

1:02:20

We're not.

1:02:20

Yeah, I think she

1:02:23

This is how she gets meant as she is all

1:02:25

about what do you want from me? Let

1:02:28

me project that onto you. Then

1:02:31

like the way that it comes out then

1:02:33

her site comes out is like hurt.

1:02:36

I'm hurt. You didn't pick me enough. You didn't pick me

1:02:38

enough?

1:02:39

Do you know what I mean?

1:02:39

Like, it's just this, there's

1:02:41

a falseness there that I do not like.

1:02:45

Then the Stewart says, so maybe it's a survival

1:02:47

skill since she didn't have lost

1:02:49

her dad when she was fifteen.

1:02:51

In a way that she doesn't know what happened.

1:02:54

Doesn't know what happened. He was dead, there

1:02:56

was no no one was there when she got home. I'm

1:02:58

your dad, I'm your daddy.

1:02:59

Now, I'm your dad now.

1:03:01

I mean that is a good point that she could

1:03:03

be. I mean, I get

1:03:05

that. I can see why she would be

1:03:07

like, what do you need

1:03:09

from me? Like if she didn't, If.

1:03:11

She didn't, then I don't want

1:03:13

to leave.

1:03:14

I can see that. I can see from like a young primal

1:03:16

stay, I can see that I get

1:03:18

it.

1:03:19

Everybody is operating from their own coping

1:03:21

mechanism. Yeah, just there's some coping mechanisms

1:03:23

that I like more than others. I like faith sort

1:03:25

of like yeah face bootstraps.

1:03:28

Yeah, faith of their horse. And then

1:03:30

Stuart says it's good to have another mention

1:03:32

in the family, and I could see him go, I know what.

1:03:34

That means, yes, ye thing, I

1:03:36

know this one.

1:03:37

I know what that means. I know what that means.

1:03:40

And then there's a lot of Jews on this show.

1:03:46

So then he did the wall kiss.

1:03:48

He did a sexy wall cast.

1:03:50

It almost looked like she hit her. It looked like a

1:03:52

painful wall.

1:03:54

It was a bumpy wall outside.

1:03:55

Of brick and morning you got a bump out.

1:03:57

Afterwards was like he like

1:03:59

pushed up against the one in a way that was kind

1:04:01

of hot for Gary. That was horny. And

1:04:03

then he goes, that was

1:04:06

a horny that was horny Gary,

1:04:08

and he goes, she goes. He

1:04:12

she says, today I'm not falling in

1:04:14

love with you. I am in love with you. And

1:04:16

he's like, I'm crazy about you. I can't

1:04:18

see without you in my life. And then and

1:04:20

then there and then he says I would

1:04:23

see a future with Leslie. And then he

1:04:25

says to her, Leslie, I love

1:04:27

you, I love you, and then he kisses

1:04:29

her against the wall and

1:04:31

then he goes, my heart is exploding, and

1:04:35

then they kissed, and

1:04:38

then they kissed.

1:04:39

Yeah.

1:04:39

I mean, I'm like, Gary, what are

1:04:42

you doing? You just said

1:04:44

this in front of in Faith. Now you

1:04:46

look Faith in the eye, in front of her family.

1:04:49

What are you doing? It was so

1:04:52

it was so dangerous.

1:04:55

It was.

1:04:58

Yeah, wow, don't come in it.

1:05:00

He gets caught up in the back.

1:05:02

But then he's going to regret it later.

1:05:04

Yes he is, Yes, he gets whatever

1:05:07

he picked. That was a hard episode

1:05:09

to watch last night. I don't care who is

1:05:12

the winner. That felt

1:05:14

bad to actually watch Fringie

1:05:18

that whoever you were, not whoever

1:05:20

it is, and we know it's not Teresa, but

1:05:23

if you were Leslie or Faith, whoever

1:05:25

wins, it is going to be really

1:05:27

fucked up to watch that bag.

1:05:29

Yeah, Leslie will

1:05:31

take it so much worse. Oh,

1:05:34

even as Leslie. If he fucking marries

1:05:36

Leslie, she is going to hold a grudge

1:05:38

about the Faith stuff. She is never gonna

1:05:40

let yes, just

1:05:43

that even that he was just any She's

1:05:45

she doesn't let it go.

1:05:47

No, you're right, but who gets

1:05:49

who got the rose? At the end

1:05:52

of the show, then we.

1:05:53

They caught it was a Cliffhangerlie.

1:05:57

That's why I thought Leslie is gonna win because she got the ross.

1:06:01

He knows he's gonna pick her.

1:06:02

I know, I know it's

1:06:04

going to be Faith. It's gonna get I

1:06:06

could see Faith's eyes be like, so

1:06:08

they get there, they get out of the limo, and he's

1:06:11

like, I find it in more than one person. I'm

1:06:13

confused, and I'm terrified. And

1:06:15

then Leslie was first scary starts

1:06:19

he starts crying sobbing. I

1:06:22

could see Faith's eyes be like, are

1:06:24

you fucking kids? Of course

1:06:26

I would the way they would.

1:06:28

I would.

1:06:29

He put his rose down and left that actually

1:06:32

to me, Look, I love my I

1:06:34

love Gary. I love Gary.

1:06:37

I felt like that felt. I know he

1:06:39

didn't have the balls to do it. It felt meaner

1:06:41

to just say it, just just like, don't leave

1:06:44

him hanging.

1:06:44

He doesn't want to let anyone down.

1:06:46

I know.

1:06:50

If the person next to you is Teresa and

1:06:52

you're like seriously, like I know he's.

1:06:56

Work and then he's like and

1:06:58

he's like, is I feel like, I'm going to throw

1:07:01

up. I'm dying inside.

1:07:04

I mean, I don't know which loser to

1:07:06

pick.

1:07:07

I mean, we know he just doesn't. He's worried

1:07:09

about telling Teresa. But I

1:07:11

felt like that was so much crueler to

1:07:14

just leave him hanging.

1:07:15

Like that, cruel, such cruel.

1:07:17

It was rude. Tall.

1:07:19

Yes, he's incapable of cruelty.

1:07:22

I feel I

1:07:24

can't believe he's gonna pick Leslie.

1:07:26

I can't believe.

1:07:29

I don't know that he is.

1:07:30

He clearly is because Leslie got the first road.

1:07:32

But they do that as

1:07:34

like a red herring, almost maybe to make

1:07:37

him do that because you know you're not gonna pick her anyway.

1:07:38

But I feel like he's I feel like he's

1:07:40

without guile and he has no game. So

1:07:43

he was like, he's like, my winner is Leslie.

1:07:45

I feel who's the runner up? I can't choose the runner

1:07:47

up.

1:07:47

I think Leslie's the last person he spent time

1:07:49

with. I think he definitely felt it the

1:07:51

most with Leslie in that moment. But I think

1:07:54

when he has those fantasy suites with

1:07:56

both of them, they could go either way.

1:07:57

I can't believe I would now start

1:08:00

rooting for Faith I'm all in on Faith.

1:08:02

I can admit when my mind has changed, I

1:08:04

come. Of the three, the trifecta

1:08:07

of neediness, Faith is the best

1:08:09

bet. She seems the most steady

1:08:12

on her own face.

1:08:13

I agree photo for you guys

1:08:15

of Faith is definitely the most like formed

1:08:18

being.

1:08:18

Yeah, oh my god,

1:08:20

Seth, you're a man.

1:08:22

Yeah, I've heard that.

1:08:23

What would you do? How would you

1:08:25

deal with this?

1:08:26

If you were Gary and I had those three

1:08:28

people?

1:08:29

And yeah?

1:08:30

Faith in a second? Yeah, I mean,

1:08:32

Leslie is kind of fun and she's kind of sex seeing she has

1:08:34

like a fun family, and she lives in the crazy

1:08:37

Minneapolis, which I can

1:08:40

only live in for one month a year. But

1:08:44

Faith is like, it's just a different adventure.

1:08:46

Who would you have picked up? Everybody in the Ellen?

1:08:49

Maybe? Ellen?

1:08:50

Or don't?

1:08:51

We never?

1:08:52

We never got to know Edith, We never got to know Eath.

1:08:54

That beautiful blonde like upp east Side

1:08:56

mom.

1:08:57

Oh, Joan the one who left? She left?

1:08:59

Yeah, I like to like John Joan left.

1:09:02

I can't. I'm trying to make a big picture.

1:09:04

There you go. Whoa,

1:09:07

it looks like Stuart right, It's like

1:09:09

a cool looking Stewart. That's her husband's

1:09:11

husband.

1:09:12

I thought that was Stuart.

1:09:14

No, it's Sarah, like good teeth

1:09:16

and more money, and.

1:09:17

Like she married a hot bad

1:09:19

Stewart.

1:09:20

She she doesn't want.

1:09:21

She does just like Sonny Bono.

1:09:24

Sonny Bono faked his own death and then recreate

1:09:26

like we did, his identity like this.

1:09:30

Yeah, that's why Stewart

1:09:33

doesn't have those teeth.

1:09:36

All right, we're gonna take a quick break and we're gonna come right

1:09:38

back and we're going to say what's going to happen, and

1:09:41

then we're going to do our tweet

1:09:43

of the week and our reviews. I

1:09:50

don't know about you, but things agatting so hot

1:09:52

in here. I think I got to take

1:09:55

I'll pay your break

1:10:00

and we're back. We've been discussing the photo

1:10:02

of the act. She doesn't want Gary. She doesn't

1:10:05

want Gary, So what's gonna

1:10:07

happen. He's going to pick her, He's going to be all

1:10:09

in. Are they going to get married?

1:10:13

You know, he might not pick her. I don't

1:10:16

know that he will. I think, yeah, I don't

1:10:18

think he. I think he won't necessarily

1:10:20

pick Leslie.

1:10:21

Okay, I think it's Faith or Leslie. I don't

1:10:23

think Teresa's going to go to Teresa's.

1:10:24

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what

1:10:27

do we think?

1:10:28

I love shattered glass in

1:10:31

a baby doll dress?

1:10:33

But anthropology,

1:10:38

okay, she.

1:10:39

Looks better in her clothing than I ever

1:10:41

have. So it's not it's incredible,

1:10:44

it's I just can't. It's not even vulnerability.

1:10:47

It's just this like open wound.

1:10:49

I can't take it. I can't.

1:10:51

You know what. My mom

1:10:54

was not needy, but she did

1:10:56

need my boyfriends to flirt with her.

1:11:00

She needed She.

1:11:01

Wasn't like needed like Theresa, but she needed

1:11:03

a little attention given to Leslie.

1:11:06

For sure.

1:11:07

My mom made it like and again

1:11:09

she was not she wasn't fragile like

1:11:11

Teresa. But if you would have done

1:11:14

that, you would have gone in and be like, Janna, did

1:11:16

you get your hair done? Like if you she need

1:11:18

a.

1:11:18

Little bit like shoes, I may

1:11:21

have left

1:11:23

go to the graveyard now you

1:11:26

look.

1:11:32

Yeah, my mom was the same way. My mom when

1:11:34

she meets anyone has to be funny and charming,

1:11:36

and you know what, And.

1:11:37

I understand, I'm like I because

1:11:39

also my dad wasn't giving it to her, you

1:11:42

know what I mean? So it's like all right, you know what,

1:11:44

And at least if I would just

1:11:46

warn like, you gotta be a little you gotta just sort

1:11:48

of flirt a little bit, just a little bit,

1:11:51

because nobody's doing it at home, so if

1:11:53

you could do it, you would give them a just

1:11:56

pay attention to her. She needs a little extra

1:11:58

attention.

1:11:59

My mom, I play the bathroom. Just go.

1:12:02

Hand

1:12:06

complete it, just

1:12:08

fake it, just.

1:12:10

Vake it, just as you know you're doing a

1:12:12

hand jumba cry a little bit.

1:12:16

So you think so? You think final three

1:12:18

are in order? Seth herzog final

1:12:22

three in order?

1:12:23

He's going to pick. Yeah, he's gonna pick Leslie or

1:12:25

Faith and then Teresa?

1:12:26

I think, or so who's gonna win? Who's

1:12:29

going to win? Leslie?

1:12:30

All right?

1:12:30

Who do you think is going to win?

1:12:32

I gotta have faith?

1:12:33

Okay?

1:12:34

I really think I think

1:12:36

he might go Faith.

1:12:37

After the Fantasy Suite because he's I

1:12:40

hope they let Faith go.

1:12:42

Second. I do too, because I really

1:12:44

think it is.

1:12:44

Because that will change Yes, you're right,

1:12:47

that would change his attitude. Do you think Fantasy

1:12:49

sweets his dinner? At five?

1:12:50

In bed at eight, I know

1:12:52

that they're boning down. He said it.

1:12:54

He said that.

1:12:55

He said it at the last

1:12:57

after the final rows of the Bachelorette.

1:13:00

He wanted fantasy just because the physical

1:13:02

importance is important. The physical

1:13:04

component is important to the garbage.

1:13:06

Gary said this, Yeah, I also

1:13:08

think does it change your number?

1:13:10

Maybe because he seems like such a guy

1:13:12

who wouldn't ever say that, now,

1:13:15

what's your number?

1:13:16

Now? What's your number?

1:13:18

Thirty seven?

1:13:20

I mean, I don't think it's bad

1:13:22

that it's twenty.

1:13:23

I don't think it's bad that it's twenty.

1:13:24

Mostly it's only nineteen after his

1:13:27

wife.

1:13:28

Right, I mean, so you're saying after

1:13:30

his wife died, he's had sex with twenty people or

1:13:32

nineteen?

1:13:33

Yeah, nineteen nine, wow, Tammy.

1:13:35

Wow, one in there.

1:13:37

I'm gonna say maybe

1:13:40

eleven. Yeah, I

1:13:42

can't think of nineteen.

1:13:44

I just think there.

1:13:44

Were someone and Doune's.

1:13:46

Oh for sure.

1:13:47

I think most of them were to one and die.

1:13:49

I yeah, he's a

1:13:51

girl. Man.

1:13:52

No, I'm not saying I'm not I'm not kink

1:13:54

shame and Gary, it's.

1:13:55

Not even a kink.

1:13:57

Maybe he's so simple that

1:14:00

that he's just like very primal.

1:14:02

Is this it's just really just about sex

1:14:04

for me? I don't want to talk to.

1:14:05

These people, right, right?

1:14:07

He could? Well, here we go. We've got some nice

1:14:10

reviews, five stars, some k mask

1:14:13

from mundane to marvelous. Thank God,

1:14:15

Thank the good Universe for Arden and

1:14:17

her brilliant team for transforming my mundane

1:14:20

life into marvelous fun. You

1:14:22

could find me laughing along with this hilarious

1:14:25

crew on my long commute unloading the dishrusher

1:14:27

or chasing after my four year old. Thank

1:14:29

you for adding some spackle into my daily

1:14:32

grind.

1:14:32

Was that Gary?

1:14:35

It sounded like Susan Jenner. I

1:14:37

love Susan Jenner, but doesn't it sound like

1:14:39

that kind of I loved it.

1:14:41

I loved it. Here's another five starts

1:14:44

pause pause from Tom

1:14:46

kat required listening. I'll do it the Rhode

1:14:49

Island Accentkaty, This podcast

1:14:51

is such a fun companion to the show. The

1:14:54

Bachelor franchise can be a drag

1:14:56

to watch without a friend to snack with?

1:14:58

Add is that friend? This podcast

1:15:01

makes it so fun. She has the best

1:15:03

guest takes and tangents.

1:15:06

Is it a friend to snark with or

1:15:08

snack with?

1:15:09

Snark?

1:15:09

Okay, okay?

1:15:10

And snacks? I love snacks. What's

1:15:12

your favorite snack?

1:15:13

Tammy, that's a toughie.

1:15:15

What's your favorite snack? I love peanut butter, peanut

1:15:17

butter.

1:15:18

In a Granny Smith apple.

1:15:20

Snack. If it's tuna, yeah,

1:15:22

okay, ye, tuna on like an English muffin.

1:15:25

You do tuna fish like

1:15:28

a like a like a tuna milt.

1:15:29

Yeah okay, cool? Is that too

1:15:32

much of a lunch and not a snack?

1:15:33

That give me a snack? I'm not judging a snack.

1:15:36

Okay, here we go, Here we go, tweeter

1:15:38

the week. This is for a sleep crown, you guys.

1:15:40

Oh lord, someone's gonna win a sleep.

1:15:42

Crown because I'm paradise. Julie can

1:15:44

only say now for one franchise. Normally we

1:15:46

only have one another's too. She picked Golden

1:15:49

Bachelor, And if you want your own sleep Crown,

1:15:51

you go to sleep crown dot com backslash w y

1:15:53

a t R code golden. I

1:15:57

cannot tell you how soft these are.

1:16:00

I couldn't find mine last

1:16:01

I couldn't find

1:16:04

I couldn't find mine last night. I didn't sleep

1:16:06

well normally. I'm clutching it. I don't know where

1:16:09

it went. All right, I'm gonna say, oh there was

1:16:11

a but oh I got nine. Maybe I'll try to narrow it down.

1:16:13

We're narrowing it down. To two and then we picked the winner.

1:16:15

Okay, aana banana at Lilllypool went Await,

1:16:18

Gary, I love you Faith. Let's

1:16:21

suck face in front of your grandkids. Faith.

1:16:23

That's nice, but I can't move away from this town because

1:16:25

of my dead horse. There

1:16:31

is a bunch of good ones. These are a bunch of good

1:16:33

ones. This is what you shan is what you

1:16:35

get, Cliffhanger. I was

1:16:37

looking forward to Gary telling one of the ladies here's

1:16:40

my shoulder to cry in. No, not that one.

1:16:42

That one belongs to the lion. His

1:16:45

lion's up too.

1:16:46

Yeah, okay,

1:16:50

this is for you, Tammy. What you shan is what

1:16:52

you get. Prince supposedly wrote

1:16:54

a song about Leslie. Little does she know

1:16:56

that Gary wrote a song about rainbow connections.

1:17:06

Here's another one from There's another one from what you shout

1:17:08

us about you get. I was kind of hoping that

1:17:10

Gary would pull a Gavin Newsom and knock over

1:17:12

one of his grandkids.

1:17:14

You really have to know the news to get that joke,

1:17:17

dude.

1:17:17

He so Gary, Gavin Newsom went to

1:17:19

China and was playing like basketball

1:17:22

and my kids over the cloud down.

1:17:26

Then he tackles the kid with him and he's

1:17:28

like rolling around.

1:17:29

Like fully tackled a child.

1:17:31

He like fully just got caught up in the gate.

1:17:33

He was trying to win and he like was trying to

1:17:36

juke this kid.

1:17:36

And then like

1:17:39

John c Riley, Yes, yeah.

1:17:41

It's like it's like blues. Uh

1:17:43

what's his name.

1:17:44

Doctor Bruel, doctor Brule?

1:17:45

Yeah, yeah, uh. What

1:17:48

you shout is what you get. When Faith mentioned that her

1:17:50

horse was buried on the property, was I the

1:17:52

only one that was worried? What Gary would counter

1:17:54

with, Okay,

1:17:58

here you go. Here's

1:18:01

another one from what you shot is what you get?

1:18:03

Love it.

1:18:03

Teresa's grandsons are throwing her under

1:18:05

the bus. She comes over here a lot because

1:18:08

she's lonely. She takes Sealthie with dumflips.

1:18:10

She's a cloud chaser looking for endorses

1:18:12

from Activa.

1:18:16

Those first two things, though, you know they've

1:18:18

heard them from their mom. Yeah yeah,

1:18:20

Why does grandma come so much because she's lonely?

1:18:23

Oh yeah yeah?

1:18:24

Why does she make that face?

1:18:25

You know what? You never no one's ever

1:18:27

been a grandchild. That's like, Grandma's here too

1:18:30

much? Do you know what I mean? This is from

1:18:32

lou SATs At, Sir weirdel Gary.

1:18:34

I've had to keep these women separate in my mind.

1:18:37

I have a faith box. I have a Leslie box,

1:18:39

and I have a Teresa box producer. Let's

1:18:42

not say box Gary, I have a faith

1:18:44

hole.

1:18:44

I lost you.

1:18:49

That's pretty good, that's pretty good.

1:18:52

Okay, here's a final two, Britt Paulson.

1:18:54

If I was faith and my sister was that hot,

1:18:56

I would simply not introduce my non

1:18:59

monogamous boyfriend to her. Here's

1:19:02

the final one from Paulson net beer it No,

1:19:05

we did not. Finally get a

1:19:07

sliver of where would we live if

1:19:09

we were together? Conversation and the argument

1:19:12

was actually my horse is buried wear

1:19:16

We've never had that conversation.

1:19:18

Yeah, it's a good point. Okay.

1:19:19

Final two. I would say the box.

1:19:21

One Box one is great, and.

1:19:23

I would say Box one of Rainbow Connections. Sure,

1:19:25

okay, great, Okay. What you shan is

1:19:27

what you get?

1:19:28

Uh.

1:19:29

Prince supposedly wrote a song about

1:19:31

Leslie. Little does she know? Gary wrote

1:19:33

a song about Rainbow Connections and

1:19:37

we have lou sass. It's sir, weird, al

1:19:40

Gary. I've had to keep these women separate

1:19:42

in my mind. I have a faith box. I have a Leslie

1:19:45

box and I have a Teresa Box producer. Let's

1:19:47

not say box Gary, I have a faith

1:19:50

hole. I have a Leslie hole hole

1:19:52

or rainbow connection. Oh

1:19:56

wow, loose sass. It's sir,

1:19:58

weird al for.

1:19:59

The because it can be emotional hole, sir,

1:20:02

you.

1:20:03

One yourself a slave crown. Email

1:20:05

us at Rosepodcast at gmail dot com.

1:20:07

You're your mailing

1:20:10

address, Seth, what would

1:20:12

you like to I'd happy early tomorrow,

1:20:15

tomorrow tomorrow, okay,

1:20:19

Well a happy birthday, thank you, thank you, thank

1:20:21

And what would you like to promote my friend Wenesday?

1:20:23

Next show him?

1:20:26

The next big Sweet show is November

1:20:28

fourteenth the Chelsea Music Hall. If

1:20:31

Tammy wants to come, she can be on it. She wants

1:20:33

to do a bit. I don't know if you do that?

1:20:35

Yeah, yeah, I'd love to.

1:20:36

Oh really great. John Hodgman is going to be on. Oh

1:20:38

I love him and a

1:20:40

couple of the writers from our show. And I think that's

1:20:42

about it so far.

1:20:43

Oh awesome, Yeah, Tammy.

1:20:45

What would you like to promote?

1:20:46

Well, I'll promote a fundraiser

1:20:49

that Seth and I are going to do.

1:20:50

We're hosting a fundraiser next Saturday night.

1:20:52

Nice for Positive Tales. So if you're in New

1:20:54

York, it's this amazing organization

1:20:56

that helps underserved communities

1:20:58

and gives them free the veterinary

1:21:01

care.

1:21:01

It's incredible free

1:21:04

vet care for your dogs if you can't afford.

1:21:05

I gotta say, having an animal that has

1:21:08

health things, it's expensive.

1:21:10

It's it's really really beautiful.

1:21:12

So that's so cool. What's the name of the organization,

1:21:14

Positive Tales? T A I S

1:21:17

L.

1:21:17

William of Gala.

1:21:20

That's fun. It's going to be really.

1:21:22

Hosting it and then you come see Tammy

1:21:24

at the Chelsea Music Hall. Yeah.

1:21:27

Well, I want to say I want to give a shout out

1:21:29

to Natalie Levy who made

1:21:31

a painting for Mittens. It

1:21:35

was so exciting and she brought it and

1:21:37

I wasn't able to meet her in person, but I look

1:21:39

at this. This is my cat in

1:21:41

my jumpsuit holding

1:21:43

a Look at that holding a pick

1:21:45

a ball racket and a rose

1:21:48

next to a Pooh baby on a log because

1:21:50

that's from Paradise?

1:21:51

Is that not?

1:21:52

She brought this painting to New York, but she's gonna ship

1:21:54

it to LA.

1:21:54

How cool is That's amazing?

1:21:56

That's an incredible piece of art.

1:21:58

That took a lot of time.

1:21:59

Honestly, it's really good. And

1:22:01

it's a purple version of the jumpsuit I'm wearing right now,

1:22:03

which I wear most of the time, but it's

1:22:06

pink. It's like a pinkish purple, so I

1:22:08

appreciate that. And then so there's

1:22:10

two shows coming up. Tammy's done

1:22:13

two of our live no autographs, a

1:22:15

bless there.

1:22:15

You can never see their show live.

1:22:17

It's been so fun. So we're

1:22:20

doing it Friday,

1:22:22

November nineteenth, so that's in two weeks

1:22:24

at Union Hall. You can go to Union Hall

1:22:27

Andy dot Com. Jordan Carlos

1:22:29

is going to be doing improv, and then we

1:22:31

have Joe Firestone and

1:22:34

we have Sydney Washington are all doing stand

1:22:36

up and amazing. And then we're doing

1:22:39

in Los Angeles

1:22:42

Wednesday, December

1:22:44

six. We're going to be doing a show at the Alesion

1:22:46

Theater and we haven't gotten

1:22:49

it yes yet, but we're offering it to

1:22:52

Meatball, so hopefully

1:22:54

Meatball will be doing it with us. Anyways,

1:22:56

a group, it's a person. They

1:22:59

are a Dragon Star. They're hilarious.

1:23:02

They're hilarious. And

1:23:04

also, uh,

1:23:07

we have our Patreon where we're doing Southern

1:23:10

charm and we're about to start Winter House,

1:23:12

which is very exciting. And

1:23:15

that's it.

1:23:16

That's amazing, Okay. And then after the we

1:23:19

turn this off, I can tell you about what happened when Pilot

1:23:21

peached up to my Halloween party.

1:23:22

Oh can you give us

1:23:24

a little preview before we he was.

1:23:26

The bell of the ball, give us the greetest, sweetest,

1:23:28

nicest guy. And there were women

1:23:31

fighting over his attention, like flying

1:23:34

up around they know who he was or oh, they.

1:23:36

Knew who he was, and he was gorgeous.

1:23:38

Gorgeous and so sweet. And there

1:23:40

was the crowds of women competing,

1:23:42

and there was too that got a fight too, got in a fight over

1:23:45

it.

1:23:45

And what way what were they doing there?

1:23:46

Like, get out of you. I'm talking to him like this, my man, he invited

1:23:49

me, like the whole fock he

1:23:51

was like kind of avoiding. He's like, I can't talk to those people.

1:23:54

Wow, that is I can't

1:23:56

believe I was out of town. I can't believe I was out

1:23:58

of town. That's so fun. Okay, Well

1:24:00

he'll tell us all until next week. My name

1:24:02

is Armorn. Think you so much?

1:24:03

Goodbye?

1:24:05

Oh yeah, we're

1:24:07

gonna get all up and you tonight. I

1:24:11

feels so good.

1:24:13

I just got one little question.

1:24:16

Where your accept this roll? Would

1:24:22

you reaccept this roll? Listen

1:24:24

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1:24:34

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1:24:36

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1:24:42

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