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Welcome to Will You Accept This Rose?

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A production of iHeartRadio?

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Oh oh

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my god, you guys, Happy

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Turkey, lurky day. Honeys.

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Look, we're all doing the best pocas and I

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can't believe we're going into

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the holiday season still

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on the beaches. Si, I'm

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not mad at it. I didn't know.

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We've all become snowbirds.

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We're officially snowbirds.

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Look, you know what you gotta do, what you gotta do.

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Hello, I'm gonna do another episode

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of weeks Up this Rose. My name is Arto Marine,

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coming to you from my mom's bougie apartment in

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New York City. This is my last New York City

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one, and then we're gonna be back in person in

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Los Angeles, which is exciting. But

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it's been fun. I've made pals here, which

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is I've very much enjoyed. It was fun to see

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Margaret and Joe last week. I've so much

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enjoyed Seth and and

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Uh Jordan and and Ana

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and Mave and Carolina.

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I mean, it's been really such a

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fun run.

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Here in such a hard to

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Did you enjoy it? Absolutely? Everyone

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was like a pleasant surprise each time.

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I felt like people really came

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to play and I and a lot of people

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were like newer to the franchis Tammy,

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So that was just like, yeah, it was really I

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loved. I love. I

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feel like we expanded, we

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like got like our summer house

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or our East Coast, our time share.

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I feel like we did a really good job. Okay,

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hello, And so with us today, coming

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to us from north and south of the border,

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and by that I mean Canada and

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Los Angeles, we have with

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us a man that we just loved so much, and

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we get him when we can.

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He's so funny.

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I'm gonna say he's our male

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bachelor historian because his brain holds

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things that mine doesn't, but Lori's

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does, ladies and gentlemen.

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He's a brilliant stand up.

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We met him. It's almost our anniversary

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with him. He's

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a brilliant stand up.

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My Carosa.

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Hi, Yeah, like you've been our friend longer.

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It does feel that way, it does. It feels

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longer than it almost a year.

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Hasn't even been a year.

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Well, you were supposed to do two years ago, and then

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that the second round of COVID

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kind of like delayed our We've been

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in touch, we were we we texted

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an email, but like, I feel like we really

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really you can't You're you're an

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important part of the podcast now.

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I hope you know that.

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That feels really nice.

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Okay, be your all friend on Zoom.

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Sometime I feel very excited. I feel

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like you guys are a good couple. I just want to say

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that.

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I look, I'm just gonna go ahead and say

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I might be a little biased, but I think we are too.

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She's real sweet. She's working right now. If

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she wasn't so busy, i'd tell her to come say hi.

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I need to mean Okay.

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Also with us is a woman I gotta

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say, whose hair is looking really

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healthy and on point. Get this woman,

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Get this woman a hair campaign. She's

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got a gorgeous pink tree in her

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gorgeous pink studio.

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With only half the lights on. But you know what more

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to come?

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You know her as I'm gonna

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say, a person who was

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who infiltrated via our earbuds,

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and she came, she listened, and then she climbed

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on into the studio and into your

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hearts, ladies and gentlemen, your friend, my friend

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waitning.

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Thank you, thank you for having me again.

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Oh my god, who have Who have you enjoyed

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the most from the New York crew?

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Is it Seth? He was,

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Oh so fantastic, upset,

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so cute. I like your engineer

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that we never hear.

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Oh my god, I know you don't have to have him record

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himself.

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I like that he does like I like the

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guessing what he's saying.

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I like that.

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I told doctor Shamam Shamaa

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that Seth beat him out, and Shamwam

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is competitive, and so we did.

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We wanted to. We were gonna try

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to see if we could get an advanced copy of the finale

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to do before we left New York, and then

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we realized, hey, ding dungs, it's live.

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You can't speed up time. All right,

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it's live, so you're not gonna be on that coast.

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You can't speed up times, so it's not gonna work. Also

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with us as two women who we are obsessed

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with the wind beneath our wings,

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friends of workaholics

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and animals alike, ladies and

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gentlemen, Doctor Katie Levine and doctor

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Hannah Montana, Arianna Rosanna, Rosanna,

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Dana Mina, Hostia Levine.

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Welcome to the program, Doctor Banana and Katie,

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how are you doing.

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Hi. Sorry, I have a cough right now,

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So that's okay. I've been coughing all

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right.

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Are you feeling under the weather.

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Yeah, it's just mostly a cough. My throat is

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just like, you got enough of this

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travel?

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You're on a hundred city tour.

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What are you gonna do? I

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just want to say, right out of the gate, two

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shows. Brian, Sophie and I

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are doing our very first ever no Autographs

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please live in Los Angeles

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Wednesday, December sixth at

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the Allegian Theater.

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We've done a sold out run at Union Hall.

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In New York.

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It's so fun. We're gonna have Chris

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Fleming. If you don't know him, he does those funny

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videos on YouTube. He's fucking

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hilarious. He's he has a special that just

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came out on Peacock. He Mike, you know

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him. He's hilarious.

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I love him.

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He's one of the goofiest goofballs who's

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ever goofed.

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He's so I've never met him, and

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I slid into his DMS because

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I'm like such a fan, and he immediately.

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Says, somebody who loves to play, Yeah,

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this is gonna be the perfect guest.

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And then we also have Meatball,

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who did who is a drag

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perform Do you love Meatballs?

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Oh, Meatball is incredible.

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Meatball is a drag performer who did

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like he sort of made fun of George Santos

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and the George Santos got confused and like complimented

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it and then he was like, I was kidding.

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So Meatball is all.

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So it's gonna be me, Brian Meetball,

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and Chris bellm if that's not a

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foursome. So that's that. The Allegian Theater

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is our only West Coast show

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during the holiday, so get your tickets, uh,

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December sixth, and then we're going to

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sketch Fast me Doctor

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Banana, Katie, Jack

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Keith is coming, Aaron Foley,

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Lorie and Doug

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Benson and most importantly Branden

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Okayden starting us. Can

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you even He's So that's gonna be at San Francisco's

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Sketch Fest January twentieth in the afternoon,

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come play with us. Okay, here we are,

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We're in Paradise.

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Michael and Olivia.

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Michael showed up and he's like Olivia, if

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you recall, she was with John

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Henry, cat Stole, John Henry and

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all Lo and behold, what's she gonna do? Branden

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saves Olivia and down

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walks Michael, the sea captain with

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the giant dipples. He flirts with everybody. Olivia

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is all excited. She's like, he better ask me, he

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better ask me. She gets asked,

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and then she's talking to the producers and has no memory

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of his name, even though she's saying, I hope we

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get engaged.

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I hope he proposes.

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No memory.

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What did you think of that?

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Move?

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My carotza?

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I hated it. I don't care

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for it. I'm sorry. Look, if

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you're gonna be like I think he's this, I think he's

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that.

7:30

I want him to ask me out.

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I want this, I want that, And all you've

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got is you don't even know his

7:35

name, and you're like, what, it's so loud, the waves

7:37

keep crashing. It's like no, I'm

7:40

sorry, but like, you know, it's fun to fantasize,

7:42

but don't be like I could see him be my guy

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or whatever, being like pissed about not getting

7:47

it asked out or whatever.

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I just think I didn't I didn't

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like that.

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But then again, I'm also apparently

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in the minority and thinking I don't I don't care

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for Olivia.

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I don't like okay, and how come like

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way.

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Something about like, first, okay, I

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don't. I'm off put by the fact that she

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looks very much like a child like

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she She's got such a child like face that

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I'm like, you haven't. It's kind

8:11

of like a she reminds me of like my teenage

8:13

cousin who I'm like, you need to.

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You need to grow up a little bit.

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Okay, But also, uh, I

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just there's something about like she's been vindictive.

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She's great TV, but I don't like her.

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Okay, great TV, I don't like her.

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Okay, all right, Whitney, how did you feel?

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I have to say this was the first time I

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start because I've been very pro Olivia, very

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much protective of her, and

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then and then I realized when she didn't

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realize Michael's name, I'm like, am I getting

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played by the world's best performer that's

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been on here? Because I'm sincerely rooting

8:44

for her every time, I actually feel like she really likes

8:46

somebody, even though she did come in hot with the

8:48

toa sucking with poor Will who went

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banana pants. But like,

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like this is why I'm like, oh is Olivia playing

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me? Did I get played by Olivia? What

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do you think, Whitney?

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I this didn't bother me at all,

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you know, I like, I think she's fantastic

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and I do agree she makes great TV. I've

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absolutely agreed to go on dates with

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people and I've completely forgotten their name

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and just send them to voicemail

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so I can hear what the name is. Yeah,

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that was normal, Like to me, I was like, okay,

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like it's loud, and I will say

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for this whole season, I do feel

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like they're all drunk all the time. Like

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I okay, last year they were drunk

9:28

all the time, and I just feel like they are just

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wasted. And She's just like, I

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don't know I remember his name. So I

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was okay with it.

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Okay, Doctor Banana and Katie, how

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did you feel about this?

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Yeah?

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I felt like maybe she wasn't doing herself

9:44

any favors by not knowing Michael's name, but

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at the same time, she had

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just met him.

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I have also, I've also go agreed to go out

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with people that I didn't know their name.

9:55

She's meeting a lot of people. Yeah, there's so

9:57

many people on the beach. I was like, I get it.

9:59

I get it.

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And but he's the one guy.

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Yeah, I can't see that, I know, And I think

10:05

maybe she was just so excited to have someone

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there to potentially give her.

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Say she wanted to get married to him, and

10:10

they didn't know his Ye, that's true. That is funny.

10:13

And then the producer is like, you don't know

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his name?

10:15

That was pretty good. That was pretty good.

10:18

Also made me realize because you know how

10:21

we know that they have people on the list that they

10:23

want to choose, and then they have alternates.

10:25

Obviously Mike wasn't on Olivia's

10:28

list.

10:28

Right, I like, so

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we see, uh

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so then they go she goes ring

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ring, I don't know his name. So then.

10:39

So then they start dancing and she.

10:41

Goes, I like Michael, I like Mike

10:43

goal and then John Henry and Olivia

10:46

have gone their separate ways. But he was graceful

10:48

and he's like, you know what.

10:51

I wish her?

10:52

Well, uh you know, but uh

10:55

he's he's he's tyking like getting

10:57

to know Olivia, and he's talking about how he likes

11:00

sort of like heavy metal.

11:01

Well, this is a cat you're talking about.

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry cat. She's like, he's like

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he likes heavy metal, and then she's

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like, have you been to a heavy metal concert?

11:11

And he was like yeah, and then

11:13

she was like, I would never go in a mosh

11:15

pit freendan.

11:17

Through all this, I was like he would. He

11:19

would hate her so much.

11:21

Did you go to Guns and Roses or where did

11:23

you go? What did you go see recently at people?

11:26

Yeah, just did Guns n' Roses. I've

11:28

happily been in tons of mash pits. I love

11:31

heavy cat also, so I just

11:33

thought that they were. When

11:35

he was sitting there, John Henry like saying

11:37

like, oh, I sort of broke it off with Olivia and was trying

11:40

to have this conversation. I was like,

11:42

this is so annoying because she just kept jumping

11:44

in and agreeing with everything he had to say.

11:46

And then it ended up when they're finding

11:48

out like well I like heavy metal, and

11:51

then she was like ugh, and then mosh pits people

11:53

die literally die in

11:56

the.

11:57

I know, they're probably so much

11:59

safer than the rest of the concert.

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And like, I grew up going to punk

12:03

shows. I'm a post hardcore kid. I just went

12:06

to see the Callous dow Boys in town.

12:10

They're so fun, They're really great. Honestly,

12:12

they're the next big thing. I love them

12:14

very much. But the callous cowboys

12:17

put on a hell of a show. And like the mash pit is

12:19

like the ethos is like we're all here to

12:21

kind of let out get like, let out some steam

12:23

and have fun. Yeah, and you look out for each

12:25

other. So somebody drops their glasses, somebody's

12:28

gonna pick them up, somebody gets knocked in

12:30

the face, you're gonna get carted over to like somewhere

12:32

safe. Somebody falls, everybody knows that

12:34

you have to pick them up. So to me, like Kat

12:36

being like a mosh pit, Oh

12:38

my god, do you have a death wish or

12:41

something? You crazy? How am I supposed to trust you

12:43

as the father of our children if

12:45

you're gonna go ahead and die at a concert?

12:47

And it's just like, Oh, Cat's never had

12:50

fun, Cat's just never gone outside.

12:52

Yeah, I know.

12:54

Cat.

12:54

Cat is a wet blanket.

12:56

She's as Aaron Folly would say, she's a fun

12:58

Sponge's favorite is

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base, that's right, that's right,

13:03

her favorite.

13:03

Her favorite color is bab I'll

13:05

never let that go.

13:06

No, No, you're right.

13:07

She likes John Henry. Yeah, she likes John

13:09

Henry because he seems easy to control. But this

13:12

this mosh pit thing through her for ak

13:14

because.

13:14

It is it goes with his it goes with his tongue

13:17

piercing, like I feel like I feel like he's

13:19

even more of a wild card than she even

13:21

realizes, which I kind of enjoyed.

13:23

Did you tell them out or do we about

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the dates that Olivia went on

13:28

with with Michael, Michael.

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We haven't gotten there yet, so

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we're getting there. So she was saying, this is a new

13:35

beginning. I want to have fun. I

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loved this phrasing, don't

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let your chin tilt, You're gonna

13:42

let your crown slip off your head. I

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liked that.

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I wrote it down.

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I did too. I liked that don't put your chin

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like. I really thought that was so sweet.

13:51

I was like, I said that, I

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think she did. Didn't she say that about

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herself? Or he did? Michael

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is here?

13:58

Michael or Olivia?

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I think he. I think she did.

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So my notes are a bit of a scramble,

14:04

but I have it written down as hers.

14:05

I think she said it. It was really good. Before

14:07

we take a quick break and we'll get into the date. How

14:10

did you guys, I just want to I always like to hear from

14:13

our rags.

14:16

Golden Bachelor fantasy

14:18

sweets.

14:19

What the fuck? Okay, Katie just perked right

14:21

up. Okay, I mean, I

14:24

mean, at first, it felt like game

14:26

over is just gonna be Leslie's

14:30

He's like, call off the races,

14:32

and then and then he

14:35

actually asked Teresa, and Teresa

14:37

actually has kind of an interesting job and

14:39

like they seem kind of compatible. I

14:42

can't believe it. I'm actually reading for

14:44

Teresa at this point in time, Katie

14:46

tell me everything.

14:48

Yeah, I was like watching it and I was just like, well,

14:50

it's it's Leslie, Like Teresa doesn't

14:52

stand a chance. And I don't know

14:54

why he like flipped so much, Like maybe

14:56

he really did. I think you said it in the podcast, like maybe

14:58

he thought she was just going to like he

15:01

would just have to like.

15:02

Take care of her.

15:03

Yeah, and he didn't like that.

15:04

And then he's like, oh no, you're like very

15:06

independent and self sufficient and you can

15:08

take care of yourself, and uh,

15:11

maybe then he was just like, Okay, well

15:14

maybe we're just a better fit then, because

15:17

now, yeah, I'm reading for Teresa. I think Leslie

15:19

will break as heart as to do if he chooses her, I

15:21

don't think it'll last. I think she's gonna self

15:23

sabotage it.

15:24

She's literally says it.

15:25

She says, I sabotage.

15:26

She after they slept together or

15:29

whatever they did, she said, he's like an old

15:31

shoe. Nobody the first

15:33

morning after you've slept or whatever,

15:36

even hooked up with somebody, you do not want

15:38

to be. No man, No

15:41

one wants to be called an old shoe.

15:42

Doctor Banana, what do you think?

15:45

Uh, well, at

15:47

this point, I think he should choose Teresa

15:50

because it's the more

15:52

realistic choice. Yeah, she's like an

15:55

actual, I don't know what,

15:58

feels like a stable person, even though she's

16:00

sort of like a fragile bird

16:03

in herself. But Leslie's

16:08

Leslie's a mess.

16:09

Yeah, I know.

16:10

And she's telling and she's telling him

16:12

that, like she's telling him every

16:15

time.

16:15

She's like, I've never known happily

16:18

ever after.

16:19

And it feels like what is this? It also

16:21

feels like it's like she just she's it feels

16:24

like she's trying to talk herself into a safe guy

16:26

and that she doesn't actually like

16:29

him, but she's trying to talk herself.

16:30

Whitney, you're up Okay, I

16:33

have a couple. I have a question to ask as well. I

16:35

think it's Teresa. I think it is the

16:37

show always. I forget that

16:40

we're dealing with the show that ends in a proposal

16:42

and he hasn't even asked the simple

16:45

question yet of what do you do for living?

16:48

Yeah, it was like beyond me that

16:50

this is Like.

16:50

Well, I think a lot of them don't work anymore, they're

16:52

retired, you know, But yeah, what

16:54

did you what did you do?

16:56

Yeah, just basic everyday questions

16:58

that one does on the first date when you've got a

17:00

lot of time. But this is I keep

17:03

wondering because you all have talked about

17:05

it multiple times. Do we think that Prince

17:08

was great in bed? Like you said, like,

17:10

do we think Prince would have been good in bed?

17:12

Yeah?

17:12

You think good?

17:14

Yeah? Yeah. Also,

17:16

if you've talked about Prince, you've probably slept

17:18

with other musicians.

17:19

You slept with the sexy chef, you slept with

17:21

Prince.

17:22

I think there's at least fun things happening

17:24

in bed.

17:25

I think there's really unexpected things. Okay,

17:27

I was just sort of wondering in my mind. I

17:29

was I saw him once and he

17:31

was so tiny, like he was like

17:34

like five.

17:34

Feet but I think, I mean he's I mean,

17:37

I.

17:37

Wasn't attracted to him, but I love this

17:39

idea that that.

17:41

He's sexy motherfucker and he's like little

17:43

purple booties, you know.

17:45

Okay, Yeah, So it is interesting

17:47

that she's I agree with everything

17:49

that you have said from the beginning that she is

17:51

definitely like it's a competition

17:54

and she wants to win, but she's not really

17:56

thinking about long term. And she has

17:59

like told every single red flag and.

18:02

She didn't be friends, like she didn't be friend of our girl, Susan

18:04

Jenner, you know what I mean, like you did

18:07

before. She didn't befriend Ellen, you know what

18:09

I mean. Okay,

18:11

Mike, what did you think?

18:13

So here's the thing, not not

18:15

to not to be a party pooper. I haven't been watching

18:17

The Golden Bachelor, I know,

18:20

Okay, Okay, it's so bak.

18:23

We've we've been watching.

18:24

I needed a break, so

18:28

I'm told, you know how many texts I woke

18:30

up to just like the next day

18:32

of the premiere being like you watching because

18:35

it's pretty great.

18:35

It's the best one I've ever had. It's also only

18:37

eight episodes, so you could just do it.

18:41

It's the best one.

18:42

Lindsay do you know Lindsay Adams out in

18:44

La She's a very funny comic. She runs good

18:46

heroin. She's uh, she's great.

18:48

She texted me today, are you watching the

18:50

Golden Bachelor? And I was like, no, I'm taking a break

18:53

from most of most of the Bachelor

18:55

stuff. And she's like, wrong move

18:57

and I'm like, okay, great. Yeah. So

19:01

that that's when so she convinced

19:03

me to give it a go, and I'm

19:05

going to go ahead and watch it all.

19:07

When it's all.

19:07

Done, there's

19:10

short, they're short.

19:11

Yes, that was.

19:12

What convinced me. That's why she was

19:14

like, She's like, it takes no time at all. It's like four

19:16

minutes an episode, Like just

19:18

go for it exactly. So it feels like you can

19:20

knock it out.

19:21

No, it's actually it's actually they believe

19:24

it or not, These producers

19:26

actually made a really meaningful,

19:29

moving fun They

19:31

love that. I'm shocked.

19:33

It feels like a return to form, Like it feels

19:35

like the early days of the Bachelor. From

19:37

what I've been told, it's

19:39

like nobody's out here, Like I'm going to get

19:41

on Instagram after all this. It's kind of like

19:43

ept.

19:44

For maybe less except for maybe Mike.

19:47

Mike, have you ever wanted to see sort of Kermit

19:49

the Frog fall in love?

19:52

Not because that's what he's like.

19:54

Okay, you

19:56

guys.

19:56

Sound like Kermit the Frog. He sounds like he's

19:58

handsome, he's like a well. Oh. Also,

20:01

somebody emailed me that apparently

20:03

in an interview that he constantly

20:06

around the house would talk about how big his feet

20:08

were. I guess he has size fourteen feet and he

20:10

was always talking about it, and just so you know, because

20:12

they commented on his big feet. So apparently

20:14

like that was like he was always talking about his big feet.

20:16

So he's got a little bit of the dog

20:19

in him, And I'm not mad at that, all right, weight to take

20:21

a quick break and would be right back. Guys,

20:25

it's time.

20:26

That's all right, put

20:30

on the monkeys and

20:31

get.

20:36

And we're back. So here we are, and

20:38

Rachel feels like her friendship Rose

20:40

was with tanner Man. Rachel Just

20:43

Rachel, Rachel, Rachel,

20:46

Rachel, Just I

20:50

come around, I would go against

20:52

her that I'm rooting for her.

20:54

I feel bad for her.

20:55

I'm with her. I'm like, what

20:58

the fucker? No, Like, oh

21:01

god, Okay, So

21:03

Rachel. This year, Rachel's been

21:05

going slow. And Jordan

21:08

the guy her the hot guy that she went on the

21:10

race car driver as Katie Katie.

21:13

We all picked him because she was a pilot.

21:15

He was a race car driver and yeah,

21:18

talk to us, Katie.

21:19

He's so cute, so cute, so sweet,

21:21

and they have such a connection and she is

21:23

just like scared of it

21:26

or something because she keeps saying it's

21:28

there, it's wild.

21:29

I'm so maud okay.

21:31

I remember watching her send him home

21:33

on her season and being like,

21:35

oh, she's not here for the real thing. My

21:38

whole deal was like she's all.

21:40

The guys in the house were like you sent.

21:42

Him like you absolutely, you

21:44

said I'm home one, Like why

21:46

not just keep him around? Like because

21:49

it was she had like the she had like meatball,

21:51

you know what I mean, Like yeah, like that.

21:54

She needed to be there like a consoliary

21:56

type guy. Was

22:00

her like to talk.

22:02

Get in here.

22:03

Yes, But

22:05

I kept wondering if there was something

22:07

that was said that they just edited out, like

22:09

he's super conservative and she isn't

22:12

like that they didn't want to put on ABC

22:14

because.

22:14

It was that's a good question.

22:16

Cut and like not feeling

22:18

it with him that I never understood, and

22:20

clearly she still has the feeling.

22:22

Yeah, I bet it's the other way around.

22:24

Really, Oh yeah, yeah, I

22:27

agree with you.

22:28

I agree.

22:28

So they go on a date. They do couples

22:31

yoga. I feel like we've had yoga.

22:34

We've had so many tan trick. I

22:37

feel like there's been a lot. I will say ABC,

22:39

I was proud that they did a few same

22:41

sex couples. I was like, I

22:44

was proud that was at first that

22:46

for the for Disney, that was pretty

22:48

cool. I was like, Okay, Disney, that's

22:51

cool. There's two women. He

22:53

takes his shirt off.

22:54

He was rapped.

22:56

He was that moment I think, I've

22:58

got to take my shirt off. Well, day,

23:00

you know what he's working out to

23:02

get on this beach.

23:04

By the way he does, Rachel goes, have you

23:06

been preparing for this? And he goes, kind of.

23:10

It worked, yes. So

23:12

then they I have to say, they

23:15

kissed. They had a great kiss.

23:17

I felt like their date was going swimmingly.

23:20

I was actually happy for her.

23:22

I thought, you know what, we all

23:24

get in our own way. Sometimes we all get

23:27

scared, we all self sabotage,

23:29

we've all just

23:31

shut down. But maybe we shouldn't

23:34

have every I'll just speak for myself. I've

23:36

certainly caught a run in my lifetime.

23:38

Did you notice that she

23:41

said to him what we always hear on The Golden

23:43

Bachelor about like keeping eye

23:45

contact like that. She was like, you

23:47

have such great eye contact with me,

23:49

and I was like, oh, we have. We've been

23:51

hearing that on Yes a lot.

23:52

That was in Missing Well. He kept

23:55

saying, you seem completely

23:57

different like person.

23:58

You seem so much happier, and.

24:00

She, well, she went to one therapy

24:02

session.

24:03

I remember that.

24:05

She's been to therapy a single time and

24:07

it fixed everything.

24:08

It fixed everything.

24:09

And then she said, she said, I'm just happy

24:12

that you're here and that, and

24:14

then they they they were making out

24:16

in the surf and it's like a sincerely

24:19

horny way that I was happy for them, Katie.

24:21

I saw you nod your head. Yeah,

24:25

I know.

24:26

They were really they seemed to really hit

24:28

it off. They were making out. They seemed like they were

24:30

really horny for each other.

24:32

But then obviously, I mean, now I'm confused.

24:35

I don't so then there I love that

24:37

they were the couple that was really making out and

24:39

then they just got completely nailed

24:41

by the water, which I loved that was flopped

24:44

and it looked like it was an accident because they were

24:46

like making out and that wave was fucking

24:49

huge. It

24:51

was really good.

24:52

They were in it.

24:53

They were in it, and it got just yeah.

24:57

And then and then

25:00

they get She goes back to the beach and

25:02

she pulls Tanner and in

25:04

my mind, Tanner, who's

25:08

sweet and so boring, so

25:10

boring, so boring and so boring,

25:14

and and to me felt

25:16

like he just gave it

25:18

to her, because like, why go for

25:21

whatever her name is with the two eyes Dobby,

25:24

who is so beautiful it seems sweet, like

25:27

like it just so like, oh, Rachel has more status

25:29

than To me, I felt like he just picked her

25:31

because she had more status than the franchise.

25:34

So felt like a producer pick. Frankly,

25:37

how brutal is it to have one of

25:39

their old like they're an ex bachelorette

25:41

getting left by to the side before

25:44

somebody who had three seconds

25:46

of screen time in their own season. Yeah,

25:49

oh, it'll tell everybody

25:51

we picked horribly. No, no, no, Tanner,

25:53

don't you love Rachel?

25:56

Yeah, that's kissing her, I think to exactly

25:59

what you said before. He's so boring and he's

26:01

so vanilla when he had the

26:03

excitement of Cat who was crazy

26:05

off the wall, Like that was too much.

26:07

And then Davia is just so sexy

26:09

and probably in his mind exotic.

26:12

Yeah, too much for him. Where Rachel's so like

26:15

milk.

26:16

As Brendan says, they were the same team Jerseys.

26:18

Yeah. So she pulls him aside

26:21

and she goes, look, we had a

26:23

great date, and he's

26:25

like, so I just want to know, like where are we at?

26:28

He's like, am I giving you uncomfortable vibes?

26:31

And he says to her, which fam

26:33

you are? Exactly? Then he said to her,

26:36

which I also, this felt like

26:38

what guys would say to me when I was nineteen.

26:40

They would criticize me in a way that made

26:42

me feel like something was wrong with me. When I was like really that

26:44

I didn't want to make out with them. He goes,

26:47

you just put a lot of pressure on yourself.

26:49

You need to shake it off and let someone

26:52

in. Like guys would say shit

26:54

like that to me when I was like, like, you know, you

26:56

just like are really like you need to just let someone

26:58

like, well, not you, I don't I don't want to let you it

27:01

like that's like the believe me. I I

27:03

did just let somebody and I was making out in the sand

27:05

and I had a really good time. I got knocked over in a wave

27:07

like it's just not you, dude. And so

27:10

he's like, you have your guard up? What

27:13

do you want? You need to ask yourself what you

27:15

need and his manipulation worked.

27:18

She's like, she's He's right, I

27:20

do have my guard up. What I'm

27:22

like, what the fuck you were just out with like

27:25

Jordan? You had a great date, Like

27:28

what's the fucking problem?

27:29

And you had a great date with Jordan where

27:31

there was this weird moment of you.

27:34

You probably would have your guard up if you like

27:37

rejected this guy on the

27:39

first date based on.

27:40

Like the spark wasn't there?

27:42

Yeah, and lo and behold you have this

27:44

like intensely you guys are being vulnerable.

27:47

Sure, you approached the tantric yoga guys being

27:49

like, oh my god, this is awkward, like you guys

27:52

aren't horny dorks, like being weird

27:54

about intimacy and then just getting right into

27:56

it. There is there's this vulnerability

27:58

that's happening on that you're capable

28:01

of this, you've just experienced

28:03

it. Yes, but then you're gonna listen to like

28:05

I'm sorry, but like a piece of

28:07

dry wall telling you that you have you

28:10

have your own walls. Oh what,

28:12

you trust them because like real recognize

28:14

real with the drywall game, Like I'm

28:17

sorry, but you have every right to tell this

28:19

guy to go fuck himself just for the rose buddy,

28:21

but like, I don't know, I just had a great time

28:23

with a race car driver deuces,

28:26

you know what I mean?

28:26

Yes, well, I have to

28:29

tell you it worked. She goes and

28:31

talks to Tyler, who just got his

28:33

ear piers from Bradom with a giant

28:35

diarius.

28:36

Not see that happen? This is where I'm

28:38

like, where are the cameras?

28:39

Thank you?

28:41

That would have been amazing TV Like.

28:44

Yeah, sanitary,

28:48

No, no, no.

28:51

It's no.

28:52

One like, hey, hey, Branden, can you not

28:54

go around piercing people's ears on a beach

28:56

covered in sand and bacteria?

28:58

And he's just like I'm gonna like, oh.

29:00

Well, I can't stop in the

29:03

biggest fake time and that I

29:05

could possibly find.

29:08

Honestly, if I was at sketch Fest this year,

29:10

I would let him pierce my ear.

29:11

I'll tell you what.

29:12

We might need to stage.

29:16

So she goes and she talks to Tyler with

29:18

his new giant fake diamond, and

29:21

he's like. She's like, I don't know.

29:24

I don't know if he chose me because

29:26

he wants me or if it was a friendship

29:28

bros. He's like, Okay, well,

29:30

I'm busy deceiving my lady. I just

29:32

tongue his chest. But you

29:34

don't deceive somebody. You need to be honest

29:37

with you, with your person, and you

29:39

need to you need to tell them that you want to

29:41

work. I'm like, you're asking Tyler,

29:43

like Tyler, Now, Tyler

29:46

sucks, Like Katie.

29:48

Dude, Tyler should know Tyler sucks.

29:50

Yeah, you wouldn't even meet his fucking family.

29:56

And he's so drunk. Do you see he's like slurring

29:58

his speech. Oh yes, so drunk

30:00

by this point. I love.

30:04

Tyler is a men's right activist.

30:06

What I don't

30:09

know.

30:09

I don't know that for real, but that's how he acts because

30:11

I don't know. If you guys, remember was

30:14

it last year when Victoria

30:16

with whoever Victoria was with that

30:19

she left for uh Greg

30:21

Grippo. Remember the guy

30:23

was really upset and he's outside and like

30:26

Tyler was out there being like you don't deserve this man.

30:29

These women they just treat us like ship and he had just been

30:31

dumped by Bree or whatever. Like his

30:34

energy is very like pro man

30:36

being like fuck women. I don't

30:38

know, but that's what I've noticed.

30:39

He's always that guy.

30:41

You lost me at the word Victoria.

30:43

Remember Victoria was with someone that she

30:45

ended up leaving, Gregrip,

30:49

Yes you do, Victoria who steals people's husbands?

30:52

Oh yeah, Victoria af

30:55

Yeah, so Victoria. Fully, that's right.

30:57

He's like always in a guy's

30:59

ear being like you don't deserve that

31:01

man, right, right, right, it's

31:04

always if you look, it's always Tyler. He was

31:06

in Bryden's ear like he goes whatever

31:09

a guy. Whenever a

31:11

guy is getting scorned by a woman, just look

31:13

to their left of their ear.

31:14

It's Tyler.

31:15

Literally, it's always Tyler.

31:18

It feels like character it

31:21

is.

31:21

It's always him, and he's always been like you know

31:23

these women man's

31:26

right activists.

31:27

So then brush sorry,

31:30

you go.

31:31

To brush up on the on the season before

31:34

for jumping on this today, like to recap,

31:36

I read a bunch of the Vulture recaps, and the

31:38

writer of those also pointed out very

31:41

like Inselly talk like not necessarily

31:44

man. So they'll condemn

31:46

Cat, but then also just kind of defend the

31:48

guys for doing similar things.

31:49

Wow, her a homie.

31:51

Hopper, but another guy somebody who's

31:53

keeping his options open. And that's

31:57

that's like just textbook toxic masculine

31:59

misogyny.

31:59

A And if you look, it's always

32:02

Tyler.

32:03

Katie kat Money.

32:05

No, you're right, I noticed that.

32:06

How like if a woman changes,

32:09

I mean the way Cat did it, it was shy cat, Cat

32:12

Cat, but like, yeah, it

32:14

is different.

32:15

Where it's like like.

32:17

Like they were I don't know, it's different, of course,

32:19

but that's how it is always in life with men and women,

32:22

unfortunately.

32:23

But it's true just because of the Tanner

32:25

when they kept saying, which comes up in a bit,

32:27

but like that, He's like, I've just had

32:29

such a rough go of it here. I'm like, how

32:32

like how you've been picked yeah

32:34

every time?

32:35

Like yeah, but everybody want.

32:38

Trauma that you've gone through on the beach

32:40

that hasn't been working for you when you

32:42

look at somebody like you

32:44

know what, poor.

32:46

You're ready had Davia, he had Cat.

32:48

Everybody wanted Genevieve was

32:50

interested in him.

32:52

Wasn't number one jess On. She

32:54

was all because that remember when Cat went

32:56

and it was like, no, dare

32:58

you take my Like you know, Olivia was

33:00

getting all upset, saying, if my best friend

33:03

wanted to go after the guy that I so

33:05

like, he was everybody's number one, he could

33:08

well any of them.

33:09

He goes to Rachel and he says, it's

33:11

you and only you. She goes,

33:14

I do I want to try?

33:17

I want I need

33:19

to I need to put my guard

33:21

down. And he's like, I want to be

33:23

with my person, I want to start

33:26

a business. I want to go home

33:28

and watch Netflix. She say that

33:30

is the most attractive thing

33:33

anyone has sat on the beach. Yes,

33:36

and to you, I want to try.

33:38

I am the most myself I have ever

33:41

been. And I'm like, what the fuck?

33:44

What about Jordan? You

33:46

just did it again?

33:47

What the fuck?

33:49

Katie? I know Katie has feelings about

33:51

this. O Katie, I haven't let you go first.

33:53

No.

33:53

I was like so confused because she like literally

33:55

just repeated herself for she had this great day out

33:57

and then she's like that guy and You're like, and

34:00

Tanner has we I mean we've seen him say.

34:02

Two words to her.

34:03

Yeah, And I just

34:05

like I don't see the connection there. Besides

34:07

them both just being hot, there's

34:09

no seems to be no chemistry and with like.

34:12

I don't, I don't.

34:13

I'm just so confused by her choices. She's

34:16

making big mistakes.

34:17

Agree to agree, Okay,

34:21

any final thoughts, I mean,

34:23

poor Jordans. Do we see Jordan

34:26

again? What does he see him?

34:28

They see him getting up on stage. But let me ask you

34:30

this about Jordan. If you were

34:32

ditched by like the girl

34:34

on the first date, I was surprised

34:37

that he shows her for the date. Now I understand

34:39

that maybe there was nobody, no other options

34:41

because they only showed him talking to one person

34:44

and that other guy who's forgettable pulling

34:46

cat. But I'm like, why

34:48

with you? Like, I

34:50

just thought that was an interesting thing, Like.

34:52

Why, I bet they made him do it?

34:54

Yeah, okay, I think it's

34:57

also like, I think it's a good look on the

34:59

beach to go make him ends with the person who

35:01

quote unquote broke your heart.

35:03

Yeah, you'll get every.

35:05

Yeah, exactly. His claim to fame is

35:07

literally like going on this crazy beautiful

35:10

date on the first date with Rachel and

35:12

her being like, you're literally the perfect

35:14

guy. But I'm just not feeling

35:16

like this is the right thing and him being

35:18

like, oh no, I'm so sad,

35:21

and then welcome to Paradise and she's

35:23

there, so he has to be like, well, we

35:25

did have this amazing connection on that one date.

35:28

Is it still here?

35:29

And he's kind of like if it is great,

35:31

if it isn't, also fantastic,

35:34

Like if it isn't I came in, it's like,

35:36

hey, turns out it's still not a thing. But she

35:39

still says I'm amazing, and she's.

35:40

Like, go for it.

35:41

And then he's gonna be like, how do you

35:43

do? Eliza, and Aaron's gonna be

35:45

wow, Wow, where that's my girlfriend?

35:47

You know?

35:48

That is so great? Well, doctor

35:50

Banana, do you have any final thoughts on Rachel?

35:54

Uh? You know, I just wish her luck, But I don't

35:57

think Tanner is her man.

35:59

I mean they are still together, but I

36:01

don't know. I don't think she's meant to find

36:04

love on this series.

36:05

No, no, All

36:07

right, we're gonna take a quick break and we will be

36:10

right back. It's

36:21

time and

36:27

we're back. We're gonna talk for one

36:29

hot second about Olivia and

36:31

Michael, so to remind me what

36:33

their date was they go to Vedonta.

36:36

And they just go dancing. I guess my point that

36:38

I thought was so funny in this is that like

36:40

every other person that goes on a date, they have

36:42

like a like they show a lot of footage

36:45

of it, and this state was sort of like, who

36:47

cares, Like, we don't give a crap about

36:49

it, We don't care about Mike. She clearly

36:52

didn't feel any need to dress up for the

36:54

state. She had an old,

36:56

juicy outfit.

36:57

And she didn't dress up for the man. She wants to

36:59

make.

37:01

Those white flip flops

37:04

that I feel like you would wear, you know, on a casual

37:06

day. And I was like, what is happening and then just

37:08

said they were sipping from drinks that still

37:10

had the price.

37:11

On the bottom of Wow, wow,

37:15

Like that's fun.

37:17

Anyway, that was it. I just thought it was the most ridiculous

37:20

date because I was like, they didn't at

37:22

all. They just showed them was dancing, drinking

37:25

and then saying, which I did, think of you, Arden,

37:27

I hope you're happy that when

37:30

Mike and Olivia make out, I

37:32

thought of you because we did. He

37:35

said happy are you are a

37:37

really good kisser? And you kept saying

37:39

I bet Olivia is a really good

37:41

kisser.

37:42

I get the feeling she's a

37:44

really good kisser. I think she

37:47

knows what she's doing. You

37:49

know what, who else knows what they're doing? You and your

37:51

manicurist, Whitney. Your hands, Oh

37:55

my gosh, there's those holiday lights.

37:57

Yeah, I put holiday lights.

37:59

Nice.

38:00

It's so spectacular. Look

38:02

at you. Gorgeous nail beds, gorgeous

38:04

fingers. You could be a hand model.

38:06

So good.

38:07

Okay. Meanwhile, here we

38:10

go Aaron b and Eliza

38:14

Oh god, everybody else

38:16

forget they were there. He wants her to be his girlfriend,

38:19

and she's like, I want

38:21

to be your girlfriend. She goes,

38:23

it's giving commitment, it's

38:26

giving relationship. I'm

38:28

like, oh my god. I

38:31

I just the just

38:36

the appropriation of like queer

38:38

culture of like you know, like

38:40

it's giving. I'm like, wow, okay,

38:43

all right, here we go.

38:45

It's thought too, like, hey, producers, can you

38:47

get me some flowers? And they're like, here's some fifteen

38:50

day old Gerber.

38:51

Days is, yeah, here's some old

38:53

Gerbers. I mean, so

38:56

then the truth box comes out.

38:58

I'm surprised.

38:59

I just want to I'm surprised he didn't make her

39:01

flip a coin to decide whether or not to be

39:03

his girlfriend.

39:03

Oh my god, that's right he was then he

39:07

was Oh my god, good memory.

39:11

He was eternally the coin door.

39:13

So then so then the

39:15

truth box comes out and somebody

39:18

says, Tyler, everyone

39:20

knows that you are not that into Mercedes.

39:23

You better come clean. You're

39:25

coasting. You're both coasting.

39:28

I mean, we have to acknowledge

39:31

that. Like they

39:34

he did make out with Jess last.

39:36

Week, Right, he'll come

39:38

out finally.

39:40

I think I do. I don't know. I guess

39:44

it's when he was. When it was when Blake was

39:47

on the date and they were on the

39:49

day bed and they were supposed to explore other options,

39:52

so he was like, I really shouldn't and then

39:54

they did. I am I crazy. Look,

39:56

I love Paradise, but I feel

39:59

like I don't feel

40:01

like I'm actually watching anyone fall in love

40:03

this year. I don't feel no same.

40:06

And there's not that Brandon and Serene.

40:08

You know, yes, Tanna and Jade,

40:10

or even like yeah, or even like Kenny,

40:13

like and ma like Kenny, Maury,

40:16

Yeah, like Joe.

40:18

Yeah.

40:19

People tell themselves that they're going to like

40:21

Eliza and Aaron. Don't feel like they're at

40:23

all the real thing. But she's like, I'm gonna get

40:25

engaged and like Avan and Kylie,

40:28

Like Kylie came in being like I'm gonna be with

40:30

Avan and like that's like a check mark on

40:32

the box. And even like fast

40:34

forward to that date, she's not too impressed,

40:37

you know what I mean, but you still.

40:38

Like you all about it.

40:39

They like each other. I think they're both just born.

40:42

It's also one no one's

40:44

going to the boom Boom room, which is fine

40:46

if you want to take your time, but I'm just saying

40:48

wells.

40:50

Last week saying that they're all aware of their

40:52

brand and that it's not good

40:54

for them to be going. Also, I

40:57

kin don't think Navy was quite cute

40:59

for a girl, but the idea of naming

41:01

Heaven because your name was Avian

41:04

and I was like, I was like, the amount of jokes

41:06

that you could make about like hooking up with a girl

41:08

named Heaven.

41:10

Dude, yeah, Heaven and Navy.

41:13

I will say, yeah, I feel

41:15

like I understand not

41:17

everybody need like, but for let's

41:20

say thirty hot,

41:23

young, really fit,

41:26

sexy people to not have.

41:28

Two of them want to go to the boom boom room at.

41:31

Some point in time is

41:33

shocking.

41:33

I have something absolutely, especially

41:37

since we're talking about like Blake Moins.

41:39

Is on the Adeea not in

41:41

the so all right, so this is the only other thing

41:43

I will add in, And it is more to my friends

41:46

that have like kids that are in their like

41:48

nineteen twenty ish age

41:50

range, Yeah they are not. I'm

41:54

shocked because I feel like that's when we were like the horniest

41:56

and getting like hitting down and making

41:58

out as much as Yeah, but a

42:01

lot of my friends who have kids that age,

42:03

they're not. They're just like not interested.

42:06

They're playing games, and I'm

42:08

like, maybe this is what they do now.

42:10

Well it's I was. Yes.

42:12

Jes read in New York Art New York Times article about

42:14

how people just aren't having as much that.

42:15

He's interesting because when you also look at the

42:18

way everybody's presented on it's

42:20

a very sexualized look.

42:22

But then but so it looks

42:25

everyone looks super sexy. But

42:28

it's interesting. What

42:30

is it? It's interesting? Is it

42:32

poor? I don't know.

42:33

Is it that like they grew up having poorn like

42:35

just so much they could

42:37

just jack off anything.

42:38

I know, it might be like weird, like jack

42:40

off and like the level of I wonder

42:43

if it's like to not know how to interact

42:45

in real life.

42:46

It's just yeah and maybe cold, but it's

42:48

just yes, I just agree. But I'm just like my friend's

42:50

son who's twenty, who's so freaking

42:53

hot, and we've had the discussion like

42:55

not she's like I don't understand,

42:57

like I can't figure it out, and none of his

43:00

friends are and they're all like models

43:02

part time, and so they're like in the world,

43:05

and I'm just like, it's so strange

43:08

to me that this seems to be so it sort

43:10

of fits on this beach worried

43:12

about when people think about them.

43:14

They're not running off to the boom boom room. They're not

43:16

even like like macking

43:19

as hard as I feel like.

43:20

I know, it doesn't sound like. It doesn't

43:22

seem like they're like God, I wish I could, but I

43:24

don't want to protect my land because it doesn't

43:26

like the song, there's no even desire

43:29

for it.

43:30

We thought like we thought like taper

43:33

down, yeah, because we would see them

43:35

like I remember, like Nick when Nick File

43:37

was on there. I remember they would have open discussions, Oh, who's

43:39

getting the boom boom rooms? Remember that, and then

43:41

it just kind of started to get left.

43:42

Who was the one that did like the full toest

43:45

suck food horny? It

43:47

was Riley Riley, right,

43:50

wasn't it wasn't Marie and Kenny

43:52

doing stuff.

43:53

I'm sure I remember they used the band,

43:56

but they were also a bit Yeah, so

43:58

that kind of plays it.

43:59

And your bananas are like

44:01

we used to bars all the time,

44:04

just showing boners. I don't feelly we get

44:06

those.

44:06

Anymore, doctor banana. What do you think

44:08

about the like what do you you were nodding

44:10

your head.

44:12

No.

44:12

I just feel like that's sort

44:14

of like gen Ziera's. They're like less

44:16

insecure. They're just cooler than us.

44:18

They don't like think about certain things as much.

44:21

I just think like they're

44:23

smarter than us. They like have better critical

44:25

thinking than us. Just if you go on

44:27

TikTok and you like really see them like analyzing

44:30

news, you're like, oh god.

44:31

They're so smart, Like how did they figure that

44:33

out?

44:34

Or we are all our like you know, I don't know

44:36

why, but millennials gen X,

44:38

like we're a bunch of dummies that are like so

44:40

obsessed with ourselves, and like they

44:43

are just more sort of like I think

44:45

they're they're more empathetic, they

44:47

like have a better understanding.

44:49

Of the world.

44:51

Sure, but they're like horny isn't everything.

44:54

I can be horny, but I don't need to go fuck that

44:56

guy because I have more worth than that. And when I'm

44:58

ready, I will do it. But now I don't really feel

45:01

the need to. And that's okay, And that's what

45:03

they're like. They're like, that's okay to feel well.

45:05

I agree, but

45:07

once you're in a hot makeout sash

45:10

like, I mean, that's you don't want to like escalate

45:12

that that you can walk away from that.

45:15

And I just don't see it from this group of people.

45:18

I don't feel like that level event Like I

45:20

don't know.

45:20

We're talking about wants to like dry hop, I'm

45:22

not even I don't see anybody's like I wish I could

45:25

like having like a hot fun Some

45:27

of my favorite hookups were just like

45:29

a makeout like a wall, like a even

45:31

like a wall kiss, like it doesn't have to

45:33

be the boom boom room, but like

45:36

like it's just even like it's fun to make out.

45:38

When and looking up

45:40

that was hot and I could see them going to

45:42

the book like back in the first episode.

45:46

I'd say, if even wasn't such

45:48

like a shy boy, then Kylie

45:50

would be all about it.

45:51

We'd be seeing a lot more of it.

45:53

Interesting, you know what I mean, Like

45:55

they're the only couple on this, on

45:57

this that I can I can see that. For the

46:00

other thing is I think John Henry is just

46:02

like, hey, if there's somebody that comes to the beach,

46:04

that's about it.

46:05

I'm about it, like we're just I.

46:06

Think we're moments away from John Henry

46:08

fucking in public, if I'm honest, Like

46:11

he's got that energy to him. I just it

46:13

feels like it reminds me of like uh,

46:17

an old Kyle Kinane joke where it's like that's

46:19

why dogs are always humping in front of you, like

46:22

stuff in front of you there making eye contact.

46:23

They're like, what this feels good near my buddy? What's

46:25

the problem?

46:26

You know?

46:28

It's it's like he wouldn't he wouldn't shy

46:30

away from that. That's what I get from him.

46:32

I don't.

46:34

I think the gen Z discussion is an interesting

46:36

one, but it feels like they're like still

46:38

a little bit removed. There's still of that

46:40

that tier that's between

46:43

the millennials and and the gen z and there

46:45

they are technically gen Z, but I don't see

46:48

that level of empathy. I don't see that level of

46:50

critical thinking.

46:52

People are so smart that they're like actually reading

46:54

the news.

46:54

Well, they're all

46:57

all of them are sort of following a

46:59

path that they're not forging.

47:01

It feels like they're not out here making

47:04

their own way. None of them are rustling

47:06

any feathers. Even the discussions that that they

47:08

have where they're like, hey, you should really talk

47:10

to the person you've been seeing if you're

47:13

gonna go on a date with somebody who asks

47:15

you on the date. When they come to the beach, like even that

47:17

after week one, they all kind of were like, Oh, that's

47:19

bad, that's bad, that it's bad. Okay,

47:22

we're adapting. They're not

47:24

going their own route about it.

47:27

I feel like they're not really doing like they're they're

47:29

like, well says, they're doing what

47:31

they think looks good on social media, yea, thank

47:34

you. Like what they're they're branding themselves,

47:36

and they're like and also, I mean I think a lot

47:38

of it is like their moms

47:40

are one.

47:41

Yeah, I mean I get it. I

47:43

get that. Like, like I think I think

47:45

there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.

47:47

I think early days we had the naive

47:50

tape people to really fucket and

47:52

now like it is now, there is more.

47:54

Your parents are following you on Instagram.

47:56

There's more to lose as well. I think where

47:58

you could quit, you you can at your job

48:00

now and become like you

48:02

have longevity out of here.

48:04

Besides just like getting a fun vacation.

48:06

Yeah, all right, we're gonna

48:08

take a quick break and we're going to come back and we're going to talk

48:10

a little bit more about Tyler and Mercedes.

48:19

I need a sexual time out and

48:25

we're back. So Tyler and Mercedes. So

48:28

that somebody said, everybody knows that you're not that into

48:30

Mercedes about

48:32

Tyler and uh and

48:35

playing it safe and so

48:38

even is like saying to Mercedes,

48:40

you need to push him more, like if he's interest

48:42

interesting, if he knows what's stuff, you have to say,

48:44

like you got to push him to say what's up.

48:47

And she's like, it just feels like it's like a friendship,

48:49

but maybe he's not my person.

48:53

We get about this earlier

48:55

on in episodes or this is just

48:57

like we.

48:58

Just well he did make out with He did

49:00

make out with Jess last week. That's right, that's

49:02

right, and I think everybody knows it except for Mercedes.

49:05

But but then, but then they also had that thing at the

49:07

Row ceremony where they're like, we're all in,

49:10

there are no secrets, we are for

49:12

each other, and it's like, yeah, it's just they've been

49:14

this like up and down roller coaster where you're just

49:16

like, what is happening there? Yeah,

49:19

they're not right for each other. Whatever it is, they should not

49:22

end up together because clearly like there's a disconnect

49:24

somewhere and they're not correct for each other at all.

49:26

It's a tether to keep each other on the beach.

49:28

Yes, quite literally, they haven't found They're like,

49:31

it's it's the classic paradise move

49:33

of like we haven't found somebody else

49:35

that we were quite hitting it off

49:37

with that that is an earnest connection. But

49:40

now if we do stick together

49:42

and it doesn't appear like we are making an effort,

49:44

then we'll come under some scrutiny, like

49:46

right now with John Henry, not John Henry

49:48

with Tyler. But what I'm saying is like who

49:51

put that in the truth box? Like this feels

49:53

like a production move. I'm sorry, I don't buy

49:55

this truth box thing. Oh Peter shaves

49:57

his legs ha ha, who gives a shit? And

49:59

here's a here's a legit bomb

50:01

for a couple that's yeah, putting up

50:03

faces and whatever.

50:05

So you know he.

50:07

Passes into it though, right, don't you feel like

50:09

Mercedes?

50:09

I think Mercedes likes him a little

50:11

bit.

50:12

So I think she does. I think she's excited

50:14

about what's happening, and then she's being because

50:17

she seemed very blindsided by that comment

50:19

before and then it happens again.

50:22

Yeah, I would I wouldn't want to hear that. I

50:24

would not want to hear that.

50:26

I also think, yes, where's

50:29

where's this Avan?

50:30

You know?

50:30

Avan is telling is

50:33

telling Mercedes like, yeah, you gotta give him

50:35

like put the screws to him, you know, you

50:37

like really, uh, make sure that he's serious.

50:39

I'm like, where's that energy from even anywhere

50:41

else?

50:42

I don't really, I know. I'm like Avon was

50:44

so cute on Rachel's season and

50:47

I and like, sometimes I just

50:49

feel like when people like actually do like each other,

50:51

they get like sunstroke from like lying around and

50:53

kissing on the day bed.

50:55

You know what.

50:55

I mean, I feel like they're dehydrated, hungover

50:57

sunstroke because he was so chry, him

51:00

very charming on Rachel's sees it. And I'm like,

51:03

maybe maybe Kylie's

51:05

boring.

51:06

Yeah, but she's also

51:08

very boring.

51:09

I think the two of them together, I think

51:11

they're both really attractive and very boring, I

51:13

think.

51:13

And Kylie's a bit of a mean girl from what I've.

51:15

Gotten, I know she is. I think

51:17

he's a nice guy and she's a bit of a mean girl.

51:20

Well, here we are. Kat

51:23

is leading a yoga class

51:25

on the beach, which was incredible. Turns

51:28

out she's a yoga teacher. Didn't know or something

51:30

like that. I did enjoy watching

51:32

the guys that this was the first time we got the black

51:34

bars in a while, too, very

51:36

exciting.

51:37

We got him in the Tantric yoga as well earlier,

51:39

and I wanted to mention them. Yeah we got

51:41

them on butt.

51:43

Yeah, because there's a lot of thongs right now. And

51:46

so, and I'm surprised that Pete and

51:48

Sam's like, I'm actually surprised

51:50

that Canadian Sam came in and see,

51:53

did you remember Sam from Bachelor

51:55

in Paradise Canada?

51:56

Did you watch that Mike.

51:58

I did not, so with what franches

52:00

that span so many, like different kind of series,

52:03

like like in different places. I

52:05

like to focus in on the ones that

52:07

I uh that I'm either weird

52:09

way to put it loyal to or like just

52:12

like you know, so I've started an American

52:14

and and if I opened myself up to the Canadian

52:16

one one, then that's all other franchise. It's

52:18

kind of like I've had to cut out Married

52:21

at First Sight America to be able to

52:23

watch UK and Australia.

52:24

Well, because there are also five hundred episodes.

52:26

So there we go. It's so good, So there's a

52:28

double it's so good. So there's a double date and

52:32

we have Pete and Sam

52:35

and Avan and Kylie and

52:38

Avan is like I'm a really bad dancer

52:40

and Kylie's going crazy.

52:42

And Pete little boring pilot

52:44

p kind of went for

52:47

it and they got their little banana hammocks

52:49

and then they had to do an ab blind basos

52:52

ab kissing and with a fantastic

52:54

show. And I have to say, Pete woke

52:57

me up and surprised me. Mike,

53:00

would you go for it if you had to be in.

53:02

This contest one hundred?

53:05

Why wouldn't you.

53:05

I think that there's something

53:08

to be said for Pete kind of letting

53:10

loose and having fun and that being very attractive,

53:13

yes, versus Avan, who's like too scared

53:16

to be bad at something. Yes, while

53:18

it is like an important thing to Kylie

53:20

dances professionally, that's like literally what

53:23

she does. So a man who's not going to even

53:25

try to dance or like not be

53:27

comfortable enough to let loosen that way, why, that's

53:29

a huge strike against Avian and the Kylie Avan

53:32

thing. And that's why personally, I

53:34

think if he doesn't kind of unlock

53:36

that in himself, it's not going to work out.

53:39

And I don't see them being a long term thing if

53:41

we don't see that from Avan.

53:42

Yes, do you agree with Mike?

53:44

I think that's very astute thinking.

53:46

And I also just was surprised

53:48

at how bad he was at dancing,

53:50

and I feel like we've yeah before, and I'm

53:52

like, this is like just oddly very bad.

53:55

And then I did like it when he

53:57

said his friends at home we're gonna beat him up, and

54:00

I just thought it's funny where I was like, yeah,

54:02

I know, what kind of dude, bad friends

54:04

be?

54:05

You off too? I'm like, yeah,

54:07

I was like, I would be you up for being a bad dancer

54:09

if you were my friend anywhere to try, you

54:11

know what I mean, I wouldn't beat anybody up. You're

54:14

like, I run it. I mean, I mean for just not

54:16

trying. You could be as bad as you want. You got

54:18

to try.

54:19

And then I was if you don't try, you get

54:21

uninvited.

54:22

Yeah, a for effort, I don't

54:24

care how the actual moves are. Give

54:26

it a go.

54:26

You're right that if he's dating a dancer, you've

54:29

got to at least be able to dance. But I'm

54:31

surprised in how much like Pilot, Pete and

54:33

Sam seemed to be getting along.

54:35

But they just sort of like fell into each other and

54:37

it seems to be.

54:38

Just kind of cute. I like that this

54:40

is wild cards even it says

54:42

to kind of.

54:43

Don't trust him though, But.

54:44

I know I don't need that.

54:46

I don't need I'm sorry the FP

54:48

thing and then I know him that

54:52

came up. I don't I

54:54

get being a goofball, like I I bet

54:56

that if I was there, i'd kind of be aware of the camera

54:58

and whatever. But I'm also like, I'm a comedian,

55:01

obviously, this is what I'm like here for. But

55:03

like, at the very same time, the

55:06

whole if an entire group of

55:08

guys just kind of decides that there's

55:10

nothing all of them to bond. These

55:12

guys are bonding over like the

55:15

tiniest thing. If you couldn't

55:17

get on that level, I

55:19

don't trust you, not for one second.

55:21

Agree to agree. So even

55:24

says to Kylie, I'm fully invested. I'm

55:26

falling for you. She's like, it feels

55:28

good to be seen. I want

55:30

this to work. I'm falling for you

55:33

too. I mean, that's the thing

55:36

I feel really seen. There's a really intentionality

55:38

about this. Just be really intentional.

55:40

I just.

55:42

I just want people to let loose a little bit,

55:45

just be authentic.

55:46

But what I'm saying too, because they

55:48

all seem to be drunk, which again I'm very happy

55:50

with, but they all still have their wits about them

55:53

with their intentionality

55:56

drunk that they're just like, what, like.

55:58

Lit out, give me something?

56:00

Where are the demis throwing stuff into

56:02

fire?

56:03

Yeah?

56:04

Cat has sort of been our most like you

56:07

know, placing the cat. She's been

56:09

the one that's like the birth

56:11

Zilla, et cetera. Meanwhile, just

56:13

try attempts to play frisbee. Now,

56:15

let me just say, I

56:18

bet I would be. I also would bet

56:21

I would be equally as

56:23

bad as just at frisbee. I'm the worst

56:25

dark player you've ever seen

56:27

in your life. I'm a really I can catch

56:30

anything, and many shows

56:32

that I've filmed, I've had to like toss things to people.

56:35

I have the worst arm you've ever seen in your

56:37

life. So I really felt and I

56:39

get to the point where camera man can't there's no rhyme

56:41

or reason. It doesn't go even remotely in the

56:43

same direction of bad. I have

56:45

a really bad arm. So to see

56:48

somebody, to see it in real life what I

56:50

probably would look like playing frisbee, I was

56:52

like, oof, wow,

56:55

Katie, I bet you're good at frisbee. Yeah.

56:58

No, it's a frisbee.

57:00

I mean like, yeah, it's like you

57:02

just you toss it and then you

57:04

can't.

57:04

Yeah, I mean I don't know.

57:05

I was like, did she never go outside.

57:07

As a child like this whole?

57:10

I mean, some people just don't have the hand eye coordination.

57:12

I can catch, I can catch,

57:14

I can't toss. So then she goes

57:17

huh. So then there's like we find out that her

57:19

nickname is baby Jess, which which Wells

57:21

mentioned last week. I don't

57:23

know, and it makes sense, it does. But

57:25

I'm like, baby, you're not a baby.

57:28

You're twenty four. When I was on twenty four. When

57:30

I was on twenty four, I've never been on twenty four twenty

57:33

four, I was like an adult woman, you know what I mean.

57:35

Like I have to defend her in this way because

57:38

I'm look, I'm thirty two. But I

57:40

when I'm on stage, I'm like, I'm a little baby.

57:43

Like that's my whole deal.

57:44

I'm a little I'm a freaking little I'm a little

57:46

guy, you know what I'm talking about. So it

57:48

makes sense that like there's a but I think

57:51

like that bait like that quote unquote

57:53

baby energy versus the baby energy

57:55

that Jess gives just gives an energy of

57:57

like she still very much needs to be sheltered

58:00

and protected. She looks like she's at

58:02

the drop of a dot like a hat, so like

58:04

be terrified of something. It feels

58:06

like her glitter isn't so much like

58:09

hey, I like this as like it's a security

58:11

blanket at this point, like if.

58:13

I you know, and it's become what she's

58:15

known for.

58:15

So that's like an unhealthy attachment to like the

58:17

glitter thing, like, oh, you know, anyway,

58:20

I just I see a lot of development

58:24

necessary for just and so it worries

58:26

me that she's also with Blake,

58:28

who's like the oldest guy on the beach, right

58:30

he's.

58:32

Which just doesn't sit.

58:34

Right with me.

58:35

Well, okay, so here we go, we round the bend

58:37

to the grand sort of tense finale.

58:40

They launched Katie Thurston down

58:42

to the beach who he was engaged

58:44

to and he hasn't seen terms of she's also bachal

58:47

at slash stand up comedian that

58:50

was brutal?

58:51

Have you they have it in the video. I

58:53

feel like you sent it to me, right, that stand up

58:55

video of hers.

58:56

I think, Doug Benson said Doug,

58:58

Doug.

58:59

I mean yes, I think it's emphasis on the

59:01

thirst Kadie.

59:05

This use of the word stand up

59:07

comedian with her is such an unfair

59:10

like there should be a word for somebody who's trying

59:12

to do but can't do it. And then I know it's

59:14

brutal graduated too, it's

59:17

brutal.

59:17

I will I will say so. Mike

59:20

podcast co host Chris Mahia has performed

59:22

with her in Seattle and he

59:24

has mentioned that what she's been doing is

59:26

quite literally she is like an

59:29

open micro at this point. But she has this

59:31

fame, she has the drive of the open

59:33

micro where she'll go to shows and sit there

59:35

and watch and she'll be writing,

59:38

and so it's kind of like interesting. On

59:40

one hand, I'm like, this is the hustle,

59:42

this is what we like, you know, as

59:45

someone who's almost at it for like thirteen years, you're

59:47

like, oh my god, what happened to me? I used

59:49

to be that person?

59:50

Right?

59:51

And but she's like starting off

59:53

with such like you know, a million something

59:55

followers. You know, it's it's been on TV so

59:57

much already. She can

1:00:00

ask for something and get it, you know what I mean.

1:00:02

But she's not got the like the chops

1:00:05

to go with it yet. And I think

1:00:07

that if she does continue to push in that

1:00:09

direction she does want to, like, that'll

1:00:11

be great because she's already kind of using her

1:00:13

status to bring up comics that

1:00:16

she does enjoy and like in that scene, which

1:00:18

I quite appreciate, Okay, but her

1:00:20

coming on and being like, Hey, I'm Katie

1:00:22

and I'm here. Guess what's gonna happen

1:00:25

since I'm here?

1:00:26

We all know me. I'm Katie. You know me as a

1:00:28

bachelortt and comedians.

1:00:30

Stand ups, stand up comedian. Well,

1:00:33

aside from being a brilliant stand up comedian, Katie

1:00:35

is also a former bachelor. I don't

1:00:37

know if anybody remembers that. It's never mentioned. So

1:00:41

she pulls Blake aside. He looked rocked

1:00:44

that she was there.

1:00:45

He looks freaked.

1:00:47

The fuck out, and

1:00:49

she's like, wow, I

1:00:52

sent you a bunch of voice memos, like he has not.

1:00:54

I think he really loved her, and

1:00:57

she dumped him and then like they never talked

1:00:59

to each other again or sorry each other. She sent

1:01:01

him a bunch of she sent him a

1:01:03

bunch of voice memos. She's like, I did listen

1:01:06

to them. In fact, I remember each one of them. But

1:01:09

he's tripping out. I remember all everything

1:01:11

that you were saying, but I

1:01:14

was bitter and I didn't want to respond, and

1:01:16

you were in a relationship, and that just felt

1:01:18

like daggers because she started dating again that she cut

1:01:21

on the first night, and she

1:01:24

he said what we went through was real

1:01:26

to me, and she's like, me too,

1:01:29

there's a lot of good that I remember. Yeah,

1:01:32

I mean So then Blake

1:01:35

starts crying, and he goes,

1:01:37

I can't think about us in the moment and

1:01:39

how real it felt. It throws me off.

1:01:41

I don't think about it. All the memories

1:01:43

were meal and then she's like, I also felt

1:01:46

it too.

1:01:47

I felt bad for him.

1:01:49

I did care. That was rough.

1:01:51

I think it was rough too, because you

1:01:53

sent her down with the possibility that

1:01:55

like we didn't know what she was doing there, but like,

1:01:58

yeah, when.

1:01:59

It felt like she could a bit on the market.

1:02:01

Yes, And I think that that was really

1:02:03

awful to do to him because he really

1:02:06

dumped by this girl and then she yet

1:02:08

into another relationship and.

1:02:10

He's and he's been pretty

1:02:12

nice this whole time, Like he's been pretty

1:02:14

He's been a good guy all summer.

1:02:16

He's the one that Rachel first sat down

1:02:18

with in this and he was like, you got to figure

1:02:20

out what Tanner wants, like if you're the safety

1:02:23

rose or if he's really into you, like have a

1:02:25

conversation. He's been like a really

1:02:27

pleasant person.

1:02:29

Yeah.

1:02:29

I think he looks like he's

1:02:34

a comedian. And he was on

1:02:36

Zoe, the Zoe Deschanel

1:02:38

Show. You know, but I don't know girl,

1:02:41

Yeah, new girl.

1:02:42

Jake Johnson like one of

1:02:44

the leads.

1:02:44

You mean, yeah,

1:02:47

the Adam guys and his name Adam.

1:02:51

Adam.

1:02:52

Yeah, Adam Adam Adam.

1:02:55

Yeah, yeah, that's.

1:02:56

Who I think that he looks like he's

1:02:59

he's getting cuter and cuter.

1:03:01

To me, I'm

1:03:03

really I find myself

1:03:05

very true Blake, and he also like

1:03:08

he's smart and he talks like

1:03:10

you notice all the women come to him. Yeahs

1:03:13

they want to like talk because he's like a mature

1:03:16

Yeah, he's he's like the.

1:03:17

Grocery store Joe.

1:03:21

Thirty.

1:03:21

He is my age

1:03:25

and they come to him like Grandpa. I

1:03:27

needed rice because.

1:03:30

He's got the hoddest body. Those eyes

1:03:32

are gorgeous.

1:03:33

Yeah, he's getting more and more handsome. Well, he's

1:03:35

in a loop right now. Jess

1:03:38

is freaking out. She forgot that he was engaged,

1:03:40

and she's like, well he was engaged to the bachelorette.

1:03:43

I already feel like an idiot here. So

1:03:46

then Blake pulls her aside

1:03:49

and and

1:03:51

she's like, nothing went the way

1:03:54

that I thought it would. And

1:03:57

Jess is like, this makes me want to go home. She's

1:04:00

like, and then Katie was saying, the

1:04:03

producer asked, do you still have feelings

1:04:05

for him? And she's like it's

1:04:07

always been Blake, and

1:04:10

Jess is like super upset. She's like, I

1:04:12

have an engagement dress packed. It's

1:04:15

hard that I'm not hopelessly in love

1:04:17

right now. I just want to be in love and happy,

1:04:21

and so would they ask if Katie

1:04:24

has still loves him. She gets tears

1:04:26

and she goes, oh fuck. Blake

1:04:28

starts tripping out his ex fiance is

1:04:30

there and adds confusion. Onto the confusion,

1:04:33

Kylie goes, it's giving massy.

1:04:36

So then they go, hey,

1:04:39

we're going to do a roast.

1:04:41

You're not actually for love. I'm here did to

1:04:43

give.

1:04:44

You, and we're

1:04:46

not here to do what we're gonna do. We're gonna turn the

1:04:49

rose ceremony honest feet and

1:04:51

we're going to the roast Palopah.

1:04:54

And they were already so drunk.

1:04:57

They were comments earlier about how tired

1:04:59

they were, and then yeah, and.

1:05:01

To this, Oh, hey, guys,

1:05:03

I know what it'll shake things up? How about some creative

1:05:06

writing.

1:05:07

And also being mean to each other, just being fucking

1:05:10

mean. So then she does she

1:05:13

goes, she goes, well, hey, baby,

1:05:16

Jess, it's funny that Blake

1:05:20

also probably he made me call him daddy

1:05:22

too.

1:05:23

I mean just like all of that.

1:05:24

I mean, Katie's jokes so sorry. So

1:05:27

I just like how they all went off and

1:05:29

we're all excited about doing these

1:05:31

things and that's yeah. Cut to like

1:05:34

Rachel and she's like all pissed, being like

1:05:36

we all know that this is just an excuse

1:05:38

for someone to be mean, and then she's like drinking

1:05:41

more.

1:05:42

Yeah, Avan, I will say Evan's

1:05:45

Rachel impression was excellent.

1:05:48

It was so it was a most personality

1:05:51

I've ever seen from him, and it was actually

1:05:53

really accurate.

1:05:56

Kissed her perfect.

1:05:58

And some of them were really funny and not

1:06:00

that mean. You know that it did get mean,

1:06:02

but some of them were like legitimately fine.

1:06:04

I know, I was surprised, and I actually felt like Evans

1:06:06

was not mean and was actually just really like

1:06:08

I was really good.

1:06:10

Not just shows. But I will

1:06:12

say, just as somebody who watches Power

1:06:15

Through like every season in the last few

1:06:17

months, but the the

1:06:20

RuPaul's drag Race, but whenever they do stimps,

1:06:22

oh yeah, I mean, it's such a basic thing,

1:06:24

but they're like, don't just be mean. There

1:06:26

has to be like something empressing to it.

1:06:28

And I feel like this was just like and

1:06:31

if you got Katie is the one teaching it.

1:06:33

There's like no real teacher, so it was

1:06:35

like just be mean, and I'm like, it

1:06:37

just made me sad that like somebody couldn't

1:06:40

have like really helped them because some of the stuff

1:06:42

was awful.

1:06:43

That was set.

1:06:43

I was the judge on the stand up RuPaul

1:06:47

on the stand up episode one year.

1:06:48

You haven't did that year yet?

1:06:50

Season three honey, oh I started.

1:06:53

Yeah, got to go back?

1:06:54

Made a mistake a Season

1:06:56

three was great, so

1:06:59

so then they made a lot of

1:07:01

botox jokes about kat Olivia

1:07:04

said how do I taste?

1:07:05

Which just felt.

1:07:10

They were Tanner was

1:07:12

so mean to Rachel after

1:07:15

this was I felt

1:07:17

for her here, I don't care, I

1:07:20

don't care, like who look,

1:07:25

she can't get out of her own way. But

1:07:27

she picked Tanner. At least

1:07:29

he was bland but seemed perfectly pleasant.

1:07:32

He says, well,

1:07:35

Tyler's here. We were hoping for Gabby,

1:07:39

but we got Rachel.

1:07:41

You're gonna have another Bachelorette on this.

1:07:43

Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry I watched

1:07:45

it so long. Yeah that's okay.

1:07:46

I rewatched it this morning.

1:07:49

Yeah. We were yeah, we were told there was to be another bachelorette

1:07:51

here and we were hoping for Gabby,

1:07:53

but we got Rachel. That's

1:07:55

so fucking mean to say after

1:07:58

you're the one who's now saying I want

1:08:00

to leave here with you.

1:08:02

Likee knowing her

1:08:04

insecurities about that as well.

1:08:06

Absolutely really so mean. It

1:08:09

was was so fucking he's

1:08:12

a bad guy that does everything.

1:08:15

She better not Wait, who has the roses?

1:08:17

Who's going to women?

1:08:19

I mean, Tanner's going home, there's 't a person

1:08:22

interested in him.

1:08:23

And then Rachel's just.

1:08:24

Like, oh he literally I shared

1:08:26

I shared that with him and he used it against

1:08:28

me, you know, a very way.

1:08:30

I feel humiliated.

1:08:31

But Dan, I

1:08:34

mean obviously, but like how does like how

1:08:36

does how does like if you're Jordan

1:08:39

and she picks you, like, how do you get over? Like what

1:08:41

just happened? By the day bed? You know what I mean?

1:08:43

Like if you're not like

1:08:45

I don't understand, like all these people I

1:08:47

feel like are pulled in different areas.

1:08:49

But even if you watch it back, like

1:08:52

if you were together like a man,

1:08:55

I mean.

1:08:55

Look, it is it is a show that like they they

1:08:58

forget that they're supposed to be open to

1:09:00

other people. Like it's a show that like the moment

1:09:02

that there's people being like, we've liked, oh

1:09:05

are we together? We're together, We're together, We're together.

1:09:07

I've Laine claim to you. Okay, now

1:09:09

everything is a betrayal. A

1:09:11

conversation can ruin my day

1:09:14

because you're having a conversation with another guy.

1:09:16

Like it's just they're they're forgetting the aspect

1:09:18

of like, hey, we're actively dating

1:09:21

many people. Like that's the point. It's kind of like

1:09:23

we're all the Bachelor, we're all the Bachelorette,

1:09:25

you know what I mean. So they it's like they're

1:09:27

forgetting that. So if Jordan

1:09:30

has his wits about him and it's just

1:09:32

like normal, yeah, then

1:09:34

I think it'll just be fine for Jordan. I

1:09:36

just think what this did is it's cemented

1:09:39

that Tanner's going home and

1:09:41

that Jordan's getting Rachel's rose,

1:09:44

and hopefully she can go to

1:09:46

another therapy session and

1:09:48

the Gabby stuff won't hurt her so

1:09:50

much.

1:09:51

I hope you're right.

1:09:52

I hope she chooses Jordan.

1:09:54

I mean, especially after this, Like I mean,

1:09:56

as we saw like all the women woke up and we're like, well.

1:09:59

Fuck all the men. The

1:10:01

women were passed.

1:10:03

The women were.

1:10:06

Blow up.

1:10:07

Mercedes still a bard than you've

1:10:09

got.

1:10:09

Yes, people were hurt. Rachel

1:10:12

was upset. So then Blake is

1:10:14

like, this is not good. He so he pulls

1:10:16

Jess and we see a preview of next

1:10:19

week and he said, I should

1:10:21

have felt love, but we're not getting

1:10:23

there. We're not getting there at all. Seeing

1:10:25

my ex reminded me of what felt like and we are

1:10:27

not getting there at all. Yeah,

1:10:31

and then watching Well's

1:10:33

Tork by the Bar and everybody

1:10:35

does doing the motorbike. That was pretty fun.

1:10:37

That was great. It

1:10:40

was great.

1:10:40

Yeah.

1:10:40

I mean I feel like in years past,

1:10:42

I don't remember everything exploding on like

1:10:44

the last two episodes, but it

1:10:46

does feel like every relationship

1:10:49

is imploding on the line.

1:10:50

I think we have more episodes. I

1:10:52

don't think it's going to end the night that

1:10:55

Golden Bachelor.

1:10:57

That is not the finale.

1:10:59

Well says it keeps now.

1:11:00

Well said he was halfway through while they

1:11:02

shot this, So we're.

1:11:03

Gonna be going to the holidays,

1:11:06

I really think.

1:11:07

So, I actually think we are. I tried to it

1:11:09

up and I couldn't find it.

1:11:10

It's season.

1:11:12

There's usually like ten December

1:11:15

seventh, seventh is okay,

1:11:19

all right, They're not doing

1:11:22

this is Thanksgiving. There's two

1:11:24

more, but there might but there might be like a double

1:11:26

episode.

1:11:28

When does the Golden Bacheloren does.

1:11:30

That on the on the nine,

1:11:32

So.

1:11:32

It'll be a one hour Bachelor in Paradise

1:11:34

on the same night of the one hour finale

1:11:36

of Golden and then a two

1:11:39

hour one the on the

1:11:41

seventh. It'll be a two hour because

1:11:43

remember we got a wedding coming and remember

1:11:45

Well said it's no you would expect

1:11:48

I mean.

1:11:49

I mean maybe it's Canadian, maybe

1:11:52

it's Canadian Sam and

1:11:54

Pilot Pean, but.

1:11:56

Yeah, who would expect either married?

1:11:58

Based on Seth meeting him the other

1:12:00

day?

1:12:00

Right, who

1:12:03

met him?

1:12:04

Your friend?

1:12:04

That yeah? Sure, oh yeah, you're right,

1:12:06

Yeah, that's right. Seth met him, that's right, and

1:12:09

all the ladies were like.

1:12:10

They're all over him.

1:12:11

So then right, yeah, but that doesn't mean he

1:12:13

doesn't mean he's relationship.

1:12:17

Yeah, that's they probably have nda stuff happening

1:12:19

and they're just like, you know, but I

1:12:22

mean, I'm going through all this. By the

1:12:24

way, just looking at Wikipedia for the episodes and

1:12:26

stuff, I'm reminded of somebody that we haven't

1:12:28

mentioned, and it's very fitting. Taylor

1:12:30

showed up with Jordan's and his

1:12:33

Chiron read Charity's background

1:12:35

extra and I'm like, we're

1:12:38

back, baby, where it's at?

1:12:41

Iron is whoever wrote

1:12:43

that caption should have helped with the roast jokes.

1:12:46

Well, I just want to say,

1:12:48

first of all, it's been such a pleasure having you guys on.

1:12:50

Who do you think they're gonna Who

1:12:52

do you think is going to get engaged?

1:12:55

Oh? God? Uh, none of them?

1:12:58

But I don't believe in any of these.

1:13:00

I think one of them will propose, at least

1:13:02

just for the politay.

1:13:04

Aaron and Eliza seem to be on track

1:13:07

to propose, but then Eliza's going to

1:13:09

drop him like a hot.

1:13:10

Ham Even and Kylie,

1:13:13

No.

1:13:13

I don't think they're doing it any right.

1:13:15

I think you're right. I think Aeron and Eliza I think you're

1:13:17

right. But he said who you wouldn't expect?

1:13:19

I think and Jess are going to get together.

1:13:22

That'd be fun, honestly,

1:13:25

wild Well,

1:13:27

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point, love your enthusiasm and analysis.

1:13:39

Can't wait for your coverage of Golden Bachelorette

1:13:42

hopefully. I agree.

1:13:43

I can't wait to do it.

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Girl Trixy, Firecracker, Shyanne Constant.

1:14:20

So was this a stop on the way to

1:14:22

f Boy Island? Why is she here? That's

1:14:25

one of the number two.

1:14:28

Kylie and Evan wanted to name their daughters

1:14:31

Navy in Heaven is not shocking. She

1:14:33

would also probably spell Navy any

1:14:35

ig h ve pretty sure

1:14:37

the middle name options are skims or

1:14:39

discount Cold Kylie ten and

1:14:44

then the final one, I am liking Michael

1:14:46

Olivia's vibe, so far Wait, why did we

1:14:48

leave their date to go back to Kat? No? Sick

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of Paradise Karen, She's had

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four weeks of terrorizing our screens. Go away.

1:14:55

I do like paradise, Karen of cat.

1:14:57

All right, which one is your winner? We

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have Boy Island, Navy

1:15:01

discount code or Paradise

1:15:04

Karen. You get to pick this week

1:15:06

the winner of my Carrozza.

1:15:09

I'm gonna go with Navy discount code

1:15:11

for the wind for sure.

1:15:12

You cannot go right. I almost feel like Navy

1:15:14

should be the discount code for scams.

1:15:16

There we go, Shai Costain,

1:15:19

you are here for the win. Don't

1:15:21

forget. We have our live show

1:15:23

coming up in Los Angeles.

1:15:25

This is it. This is This is the live show we're

1:15:27

doing. It's at the Allegian Theater and

1:15:30

it's on It's a small show,

1:15:33

so get your tickets now because it's gonna sell out. As

1:15:35

Me and Brian Saffee and it's Chris

1:15:37

Fleming and meat Ball and then

1:15:40

we have up on a sketch Fest

1:15:42

on January twentieth, meet Doctor

1:15:44

Banana and Kat Money. We have

1:15:46

Aaron Foley and Lori. We have Doug

1:15:48

Benson and also we

1:15:51

have Braiden so get your tickets for all of

1:15:53

that, and also Doctor

1:15:55

Banana and I are busy doing Winter House.

1:15:58

We're busy doing Summer Charm. It's

1:16:00

all happening, uh, Whitney,

1:16:02

Yeah, what would you like to promote?

1:16:04

I'm going to promote my brother's podcast,

1:16:06

No, not podcasts, a documentary.

1:16:09

Yeah.

1:16:09

Somebody emailed us about this, so they'll you could

1:16:11

tell them where to go find it.

1:16:12

So it's called Last Stop Larima

1:16:15

and so good. You're watching it

1:16:17

anywhere outside of the US and Canada,

1:16:19

It's on Netflix, and if you are in the US

1:16:21

and Canada, it is on HBO Max Last.

1:16:24

It's so good.

1:16:27

Okay, Mike Carratta, what would you like to promote?

1:16:30

Anything you want to check out by

1:16:32

me should be on my link tree, So link

1:16:34

tree slash Mike Caroza, m I K E

1:16:37

c A R R O z z A. I've

1:16:39

got dates in Montreal mostly Dave Ross

1:16:42

is coming to town on December fifth, so get tickets to

1:16:44

that. I'll be opening for him, and John Roy

1:16:46

is also in town. But I'm taking it easy for

1:16:48

the rest of the year, So just keep an eye on

1:16:50

my Instagram and I will be

1:16:53

posting about stuff in the coming months

1:16:56

because some stuff is coming up I can't talk about

1:16:58

just yet.

1:16:58

KT Money, what would you like

1:17:00

to talk about?

1:17:02

I am Katie Underscore Money on Instagram.

1:17:05

As always, please adopter foster and animal

1:17:07

from your local shelter. LA is

1:17:09

especially full right now. They are desperately

1:17:11

in need of Big Dog Foster's especially

1:17:15

and also next Tuesday is Giving Tuesday,

1:17:17

So think of a charity that you like and

1:17:20

give.

1:17:20

That's nice. That's nice.

1:17:23

Doctor Banana, what would you like to promote?

1:17:27

I'm at Anna hosting on Twitter, at selling

1:17:29

hosts on Instagram.

1:17:32

I have a podcast Ethnically Ambiguous if you.

1:17:34

Want to listen.

1:17:35

It's really good.

1:17:37

Yeah, are you around?

1:17:39

All right? Love it, Whitney,

1:17:41

Mike. We love you, guys. I'm so glad to have this

1:17:43

combination of people. We love when you're on

1:17:46

and we'll be back, not this,

1:17:49

it will be back. Well, whenever that

1:17:51

comes back, we'll be back and we'll be back. So

1:17:54

that'll be fun, all right until next

1:17:56

time. Uh, you

1:17:58

know, it'll be a little delayed because I'm flying

1:18:00

back with the cats with

1:18:02

doctor shamwam Shamaha and the

1:18:04

girls Mittens and Meow. So

1:18:07

I think the night of the finale, so there

1:18:10

probably will be a delay for our finale

1:18:12

recaps, so don't don't be upset. It's coming.

1:18:14

It's literally because I will be arriving

1:18:17

with two cats and doctor shamwam

1:18:19

shamawa. Okay, until

1:18:21

next time.

1:18:21

My name is arm Marine thinks about it.

1:18:23

Ye oh

1:18:25

yeah, We're gonna get

1:18:27

all up in you tonight.

1:18:30

It feels so good. I

1:18:33

just got one little questions.

1:18:34

Here where you reap this

1:18:37

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1:18:43

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1:18:55

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