Max Bultman and Prashanth Iyer discuss the Red Wings' 4-1 loss to the Panthers in a game where they were extremely outplayed and bad defense reared its ugly head. Also Shayne Gostisbehere was put on waivers by the Flyers and remained unclaimed, and Prashanth dives into chaos to explore trade situations. Finally, the duo dive into the mailbag to answer your questions.Save on a subscription to The Athletic: theathletic.com/wingsforbreakfastLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices