Ziad Matar talks politics, TV shows vs reality, shifting political alliances, and writing to make sense of the chaos in a world where few read with Kim Ghattas, contributing writer for The Atlantic, non-resident senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and celebrated NYT bestselling and notable author for Black Wave: Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Forty Year Rivalry that Unraveled Culture, Religion and Collective Memory in the Middle East, and The Secretary: A Journey with Hillary Clinton from Beirut to the Heart of American Power.