Three years ago I sat down with my friend Jorge and got to know him even better. We talked about growing up in NY and CT, how he ended up out west, and his first time ever camping. We started to discuss the barriers to entry in the outdoors for marginalized populations, but never truly got into the meat of the topic. Today, years later and what feels like decades later of growth for both Jorge and I, we return to this conversation as he catches me up on what he has been up to in Lander, Wyoming. Jorge is still that fun, goofy guy, who chooses to sleep on the deck in a tent, wear pizza hats to make people laugh, and make fun of you for being so white. It's why I am just one of many who love this guy so much. But you can hear such a stark difference in how he speaks about his job and, more importantly, his purpose of improving both representation in the outdoors and mentorship to the youth community. He's the best, and I hope you love this conversation that probably could have gone on for 3 more hours.