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From the Westin A. Price Foundation, welcome

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to the Wise Traditions Podcast, for

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wise traditions in food, farming, and

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the healing arts. We are

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your source for scientific knowledge and traditional

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wisdom to help you achieve optimal health.

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And now here is our host

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and producer, Hilda Labrada-Gore. Hey, Hilda

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here. In

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some ways, we're like the proverbial frog

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in the pot of boiling water, who

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doesn't realize what's happening to him. We

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often also don't realize how bad our

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health is until it has tanked. But,

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if we start right where we are, right

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now, making small changes in our

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environment and to our habits, we

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just might get out of the pot just in

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time, and discover a whole

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new, healthier, more sustainable, and

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even off-grid kind of lifestyle. This

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is episode 452, and our guests today are Doug and Stacey.

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They are most known for their YouTube channel, Off

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Grid with Doug and Stacey. They basically did what

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I just described at the top of the show.

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They got rid of plug-in air fresheners

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and plastic shower curtains. They

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started growing a garden. And little

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by little, they moved from going

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to the grocery store to becoming the

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grocery store. They morphed from

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consumers to producers, and

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self-sustaining ones at that. Today,

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they highlight the shifts that they made to improve

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energy, lose weight, and

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clear up brain fog. And they

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cover how we can do the same. Doug

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sums it all up when he says we should

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all be able to live to the ripe old

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age of 120, and that one step to getting

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there is to do something uncomfortable every day. I

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will let him explain that one. Before

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This is Hilda Labrador and you're listening

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to Wise Traditions. Welcome

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to Wise Traditions, Stacy and Doug. Hello.

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Hello and thanks for having us. Yeah. So you

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all used to be city folks and now you are

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so revered

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really for being homesteaders. What

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provoked the switch? I

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would say probably the quest for

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health and nutrition and just

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being more self-sufficient, I guess you'd say, right?

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Like so instead of going to the store,

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we wanted to become the store. Instead of

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hiring out to do something, we wanted to learn to

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do it for ourselves. So that was a good driver

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too. But mostly it was a health journey and

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that got us here today. Yeah, that's pretty

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much how it started with the health. I

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had taken a holistic lifestyle coaching class

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and noticed that I thought I was

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doing everything right because I was exercising

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and eating right but

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I really wasn't. I had toxins in my

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life. I always say I had glade air

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fresheners and scented candles in every single room.

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Yeah, you're killing me. I know, all that

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stuff. And then just like not knowing anything

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about seed oils and just all the good

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fats and it was just one of those

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things where I just made little

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bitty changes and eventually we got to where we

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are now but we're much more drastic from that

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point to where we are now. But it's changed

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our life for the better and our health. I

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love that you talk about little bitty changes

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because I think people can get overwhelmed

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and think, I need to buy a bunch

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of chickens and all this land and you can

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just start small. How did you start back in

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the day Doug? That was it.

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We just built a log cabin and then we rolled out

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with the chickens and started our garden. Those were the two

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things we focused on first. Where we were in our

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home before we made the transition. I always

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think the very first thing that I did was change

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the shower curtain because it was a plastic, you know?

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I'm just, you know what I mean? You can talk about

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little steps. And then I was saying I got like

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a five gallon glass water bottle in one of those dispensers.

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We got it delivered by mountain valley. It

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was like little things like that we started doing. Then we got

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rid of our television. So it was

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little things. And then they got us to what

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he's talking about. Go ahead. You

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can finish it. We then we moved off

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to the land and we started growing our

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food and raising chickens. And then we started

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growing from there. The more we learned, the

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more we mastered, the more we took on

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after that. Now what was

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your health like, Doug? Stacey was saying

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that she had some revelations when she took that class

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and started to make some switches to either of you

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struggle with some health concerns? Here's

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the deal. We're all like the frog in

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the pot. Okay? You're probably listening right

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now and you probably don't think you might have any

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issues or whatever but you're eating the processed food. You're

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eating the food that's making you sick. And

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what happens is the longer you're doing it, the more

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you just are accepting what's happening

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to your body so to speak. So

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once we decided we weren't going to accept that anymore,

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then that's when the changes started to happen because we

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started putting more skin in the game, growing our own

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food, being more conscious even if you can't grow food,

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the food you do get, you want to read the

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labels. If you can't pronounce it, don't eat it. If

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it's not actually food, if it's a chemical, don't eat

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it. I heard a

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doctor talk one time and he was saying that

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it takes a long time to get cancer. And it's

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like a lot of times people earn cancer. So it

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should be a badge of honor that you know what

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to do to fix it. You know what I mean?

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Because you aren't doing things right. You earn getting diabetes

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over time. It just doesn't happen in a year. It

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takes 10, 15 years or so. So a

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lot of these things that we were having,

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I had a lot of health issues with

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hormone problems and insulin resistance and then I

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was having, I was toxic. I mean it

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was just on and on, adrenal exhaustion and

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you think you can go, go, go like

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the energizer runner but you can't. And so

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because of that, he was having allergy kind

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of symptoms and he was stressed out from

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work. Lightly overweight. Yeah, all

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that. A little bit lethargic. So

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then when we moved off grid and we

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started implementing our growing our own food raising

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your own animals Getting out in nature. We

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were barefoot all the time. We lived around

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the Amish I would notice Amish ladies were

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barefoot all the time. I started being barefoot

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a lot We had to take

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cold showers because we didn't have Running

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water and I have to heat the water up. So

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we had outside shower I took cold showers not knowing

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a lot of the stuff that I know now good

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way, right? Yeah, so through the grounding Block

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Grounding reducing the inflammation taking the

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cold showers our nervous system was great My

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skin was getting better. My hair was getting

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better. My energy was coming back. We're eating

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real good whole foods and over the years

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Things started changing like I was telling him in the drive

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here today It was funny and I had never said anything

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to him. I'm a 60 now So

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in my 20s and my 30s, I

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would go and I used to teach Montessori school and I

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would do classes every half hour I was like kind of

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like the physical education teacher. So I was down on the

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ground with the kids I'd be up and I'd be down

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and I would be doing lots of stuff with them lots

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of movement I did yoga for the kids. I just did

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movement It was every half hour until from like 8 30

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in the morning till 12 o'clock every half hour And

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I know my 20s and my 30s I would do

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that and it was like gosh I'm getting kind of

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tired and then after we moved off grid and I

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was still working there because I was working a few

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days A week and I was doing the same thing

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and I had more energy I do

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like now in my 50s when I was working because I

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quit because of COVID I didn't agree with all that was

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going on but I feel better now and

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in more energy now than I did when I was

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younger And I guess your

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experience is similar, right? Yeah. I mean we have more

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energy Brain fog is a big thing

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Fluoride water Chemicals and everything

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the heavy metals and everything it clouds your

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mind. So you think clear now We

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don't have any electricity in our house. We

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just installed solar So we have been now

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a little bit electricity, but for years we

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live with zero outlets in our house Yeah,

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and our mind has just been cleared so to

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speak of all the fog and we're

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just more alert. We're healthier We're happier

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and we're just really enjoying life actually.

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Well in the same The big thing with Doug

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was is the other thing we did, we wanted to

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emulate a lot of the Amish. So they have, they

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call it dinner at lunch. That's when they eat their

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dinner. It's their big meal. And

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then they might have a snack later in the evening

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and then they'll have a little breakfast. So we started

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doing it sort of like that. We would maybe have

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a big breakfast and maybe eat it, I called it

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Leonard between 12 and like four or

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something, we'd eat then. Or sometimes we'd eat at

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lunch and maybe have a light sipper in the

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evening. And we weren't eating as much and we

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were intermittent fasting, not knowing that we were because

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we'd stop eating later in the day. Some of

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that dumb luck Doug was talking about. Yeah, and

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he lost 50 pounds. I mean, it was crazy

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because if you look at some of our early

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videos, I mean, he had a nice belly on

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him, but it was pretty good. 50

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pounds is a lot of weight. So but

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he lost a lot of weight from that. And it

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was just funny how these things just felt we were

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living the life that we were intended to live out

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in the woods of nature. And then the

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other thing that I really think is so

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awesome is we became part of

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the process. And also like being part of,

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we are our own people who take care

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of our toilets because we have a composting

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toilet. We are the people who have to

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worry about how our electricity is taken care

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of. I mean, we're the electric man, the

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wood, we have to cut our wood, everything we

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do, we have rainwater catchment. We do everything because

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you wonder where all our time goes, but it's

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like trying to make sure that we have everything

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that we're okay. But if I look out, we're

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very in tune with nature now, and

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I will have to look out and like, oh my gosh, the

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wind is picking up from the north. I mean, I had no

9:28

idea what north, southeast and west is. It's

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coming from the north. We have to get ready. There's

9:33

a storm coming, make sure I got my wood for

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kindling. I have my wood that keep it dry. These

9:37

things that you never thought about because you turn on

9:39

the faucet and you get water. It's connected

9:41

all the purpose. Yeah. So those things

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we got really good at. And then also

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looking at the weather, knowing what's going on.

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And the other thing I started doing is

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like working biodynamically with my garden. I would

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look at the signs and the moon and

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where the moon signs would be how it

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would plant. And I would notice and

9:59

do experiments like. early on right when you

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have the new moon and it starts to crust,

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you want to plant like your greens, like your

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lettuces because they grow so much quicker. And

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then when it starts to go down in this

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other phase, you want to go ahead and plant

10:11

your like root crops because then the energy goes

10:13

down into the earth more. So it's like these

10:16

little things I started learning and then I would

10:18

do experiments trying them at different times and you

10:20

can definitely notice a difference. We

10:22

got into with nature and what was going on with

10:24

the seasons and the animals. You look at the signs

10:26

of the animals, you know what's going on, if there's

10:28

going to be a storm or if it's going to

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pass, we're really good at that kind of stuff now.

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So it kind of makes you in tune. So then

10:34

when we come to the city, you're like, oh, it

10:37

kind of disconnects you and then all the 5g. Yeah,

10:40

yeah, yeah. Can you feel it? Yeah,

10:42

you can. You can't sleep. You're anxious

10:44

feeling. I don't know how to

10:46

explain it to you, but and even like we stopped

10:48

going to hotels because we bought an RV because the

10:50

hotels when you go in them, they have

10:53

outlets everywhere. There's lights everywhere. We can

10:55

never get a good night's sleep. We

10:57

felt that electromagnetic field from the electric

10:59

outlets. So we bought the RVs

11:01

so we have more of our own home wherever

11:03

we go and then we can limit all that

11:05

stuff too and bring her home bedding, you

11:08

know, and our own food and all that stuff.

11:10

Yeah. And the other thing that

11:12

we did, you know, like with seed oils and

11:14

everybody knows about industrial seed oils, how not

11:16

good they are. I grew up as a

11:18

child, my grandmother, I'm Armenian and we used

11:20

a lot of clarified butter or

11:23

ghee and not knowing what I knew

11:25

before that time when we're like living

11:27

the process life and all that, I

11:29

do a lot with ghee and I really

11:31

believe that really healed a lot because it's

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such wonderful stuff for your immune system. I

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use it in my hair. I use it

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as a lotion. I use ghee for everything

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and it's just amazing. And

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there's another thing called like a hundred times washed. Are

11:44

you familiar with that? No, you just have to keep

11:47

washing it like a hundred times and it turns into

11:49

the fluffy kind of white. It's not yellow anymore and

11:51

it's like the most wonderful thing for your skin. It

11:53

takes almost all day to do, but you just do

11:55

it in a bowl and you'll do it a little

11:57

bit, go outside and you just kind of keep washing.

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washing it, rinsing it out. You just need a

12:02

little water and then you'll have this beautiful, like

12:04

wonderful cream. Wow, that's amazing.

12:06

You've learned so much over there. We definitely

12:08

have. We are on a crash course. So

12:11

immersion learning, if you can do immersion learning,

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that's the way to learn anything the best.

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We definitely learned hands-on. Like when we first

12:18

moved off grid, we tried to emulate what

12:20

the Amish were doing. I'd want to go

12:22

over there when they were doing things, if

12:24

they were canning or if they were butchering

12:26

chickens or if they were, she

12:28

was making butter or making homemade noodles or anything.

12:30

I'm like, I'm there. Can I help you? Can

12:32

I help you? And they're like, sure,

12:35

they definitely can use the help. And that way

12:37

we just learned. And he would go like when

12:39

the guys were butchering a cow or he

12:41

learned fencing. We learned hands-on and we just

12:43

asked to be part of it and people

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were very helpful with that. That's how

12:48

we did it. I used to think, I

12:50

think many of us did, we thought, oh, the Amish,

12:52

they're so behind the times. They don't

12:54

want to use zippers or I mean,

12:56

we just would laugh. And now we're realizing the Amish

12:58

were right all along. Right. They're the

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sovereign citizens. They have it down.

13:02

They value family. They don't value

13:05

government. They value their

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family unit, their babies, their elders. They grow

13:09

on the land. They live off the land.

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The land takes care of them. They take

13:13

care of the land. It's everything we're supposed

13:15

to be is what they are. And they

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froze that. I'm glad they did

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because otherwise, just think if we didn't have that

13:22

compass, like what if we all were

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just living this modern world and we had no way

13:26

to even reference or think about how we could live

13:28

that way. Sometimes all this

13:30

stuff takes is just your eyes seeing it or

13:32

your ears hearing it and you hear or see

13:34

the possibilities that could change your whole life. Like

13:37

a whole new world could be waiting for you

13:40

just because you heard us talk about pooping in

13:42

a bucket. He

13:45

has a poetic way of saying things. He does.

13:47

He does. Yeah. And the thing is, is with

13:49

Amish, the other thing that they don't like to

13:51

do is go to the doctors unless they really,

13:53

really have to. So they use a lot of

13:55

home remedies. I remember one of the first times

13:57

I was sitting in the rocking chair talking to

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one of the moms. This is like my first

14:02

home remedy thing that I came. It

14:04

was maybe a little daughter came up about three years

14:06

old and the mom had this little jar and it

14:08

was like a pint-sized mason jar and it had some

14:10

stuff in it. I'm trying to look at it because

14:13

the little kid came up and she got a spoonful.

14:15

She pushed down whatever was in there and then took

14:17

the liquid and gave it to the kid and the

14:20

little child went away. And I'm like

14:22

what is that? And she says, oh we've done this

14:24

forever and it was just chopped up onions with some

14:26

honey and it had got a more liquid in there

14:28

and that's what she would do. And she says, we've

14:30

done that and it helps with the children all the

14:33

time. You get that thirst and you

14:35

want to learn more and more and more and so

14:37

over the years we've been doing it. That's all I

14:39

use. Like I finished writing a home remedy book for

14:41

your health, home, and body and

14:43

all of our things that we have in our

14:45

home. Cayenne pepper and apple cider vinegar and

14:47

bentonite clay and yeah the big one

14:49

here I had a friend because people

14:51

sometimes think this is a home remedy

14:54

stuff, fufu. And my one friend

14:56

called me and she's like, I have the worst

14:58

headache and I thought really? And

15:00

she says yeah I just don't know what to do because she

15:02

wasn't gonna go somewhere with me. I think we're gonna go to

15:04

the Amish store. And I said well

15:06

you just need to try some cream of Carter. The

15:08

spice you make meringue with or you're gonna make baking

15:11

soda. And she's like really? I said just put a

15:13

teaspoon in because it's loaded with potassium and a little

15:15

magnesium stuff too. And I said it should help you.

15:17

I said just call me and let me know. And

15:20

she called me back in 20 minutes and she says

15:22

it's 90% better. Wow.

15:24

Yeah. You just put it in some water and a

15:26

teaspoon in some water and then drink it. Yeah. Imagine

15:29

that. You don't need an aspirin. But

15:32

I mean it's just like little simple things like that.

15:34

I just love little nuggets and like when you come

15:36

to you take a workshop or a

15:39

class or anything. Let's say you go and you're there

15:41

and seeing a million things. If you can go away

15:43

with one nugget I think it's worth it all. So

15:46

I wanted to ask you a little bit about something

15:48

that you discussed here at the conference. You talked about

15:50

how our world is kind of

15:52

too sterile right? We kind of need to

15:54

get dirty. Was that in your home remedy

15:56

book or is that something you recommend? Well

15:59

oh sure. When we first moved off-grid,

16:01

we didn't have running water. So we had to

16:03

watch how much water we were using. And

16:06

I knew between showers, laundry, and dishes,

16:08

I had so much I could have

16:10

for the week. So we'd fill up

16:12

all these jugs, five-gallon bucket or jugs

16:14

and then jugs too. So

16:16

we didn't get to take a shower all the time. I

16:18

wasn't washing my hair as much. And

16:21

all of a sudden, I started noticing my hair

16:23

was not as dry. My skin

16:25

wasn't itchy. I didn't need to put lotion

16:27

on because I used to always have to put lotion on all the

16:29

time. And I was

16:31

just starting to feel better because

16:33

I wasn't taking a shower as much. And

16:36

then I was noticing I wasn't smelling as bad. You

16:38

know what I mean? It was just like little things

16:40

here. If I owned a deordering company, if

16:42

I owned a soap company, if I owned

16:44

all these companies, I would want you to

16:46

take a shower every day. So

16:49

that's why they program you into doing it. So you

16:52

should buy all those products all the time. The minute

16:54

you get away from it, you get

16:56

greasy and then you get better

16:58

and then you start realizing,

17:00

wow. Well, it's because with the

17:03

shampoos because they're made with petroleum products, they

17:05

put that coating on your scalp and then

17:07

it takes a time to detox from that.

17:09

It's not good. So I

17:11

started doing natural shampoos. Then I used apple cider

17:13

vinegar rinse on my hair. My hair is healthier

17:15

than it's ever been in my life. My hair

17:18

actually, between that and then also doing the Redman

17:20

salt, I put it in my water. I make

17:22

a little soleil and put it in my water

17:24

like a teaspoon. My hair has

17:26

grown longer than it's ever grown. I always stopped

17:28

at a certain point. So between

17:30

that and then not taking a shower, I wash

17:33

my hair once every eight, nine days and

17:35

then it's great. And then I just constantly, I'll put Shea

17:37

butter in it. You know, I do like natural things and

17:39

then just let it go and it works wonderful. I could

17:41

probably go a month and not have to wash my hair and

17:43

you wouldn't be able to tell. And you

17:46

said it's not just your hair, but your overall

17:48

health. You said feeling better. Do you

17:50

think this has to do with diversifying the microbiome?

17:52

Talk to us about that a little bit. We're

17:55

made up of a bunch of different organisms,

17:57

right? Like there's things on our body, just

17:59

like dirt. anything, microbiomes and

18:01

all this stuff. And

18:03

the more diverse it is, the better

18:05

off your body is going to be. When

18:08

you start killing off strands and then getting

18:10

down to just a couple of strands of

18:12

microbiome diversity, there's

18:14

no diversity. It's kind of like us. Like we

18:16

go to these stores, you go to 10 different

18:19

stores, but you think you have selection and all

18:21

that stuff, but a choice, but you don't. They're

18:23

all owned by the same people. So the thing

18:25

is, is you have to have as much in

18:27

your life. You want dirt, you want the soil,

18:29

you want the air, the pond

18:31

water. I mean everything, the farm animals,

18:33

the dander from them, everything

18:35

about it, it needs to be on your body.

18:38

We are all in the connection field here and

18:40

when we start breaking those connections, that's where we

18:42

start not being able

18:44

to perform physically like

18:46

we're supposed to, mentally too. I

18:49

feel like some of that disconnect starts

18:51

from when we're little. We're taken out

18:53

of our homes and sent to these

18:55

buildings called schools where we spend all

18:57

day under fluorescent lights at little desks

18:59

on linoleum floors and none of

19:01

the things you were describing. Kids are

19:03

put in these rooms, right? Just think about

19:06

it. In the prime of their

19:08

life when they're supposed to be active and outside

19:10

and learning and sucking up all this stuff and

19:12

education and tribal learning too, we haven't talked about

19:14

that, but people learn best by

19:16

doing, by seeing and doing and when

19:19

you're around your elders and your big

19:21

family, that's who taught the youngsters. In

19:23

the 1800s late 1800s, we switched

19:25

to an audio learning, which is

19:27

where someone stands in front and blasts

19:30

their mouth to you and then you're

19:32

supposed to hear it and then

19:34

learn from it. That is an inferior

19:36

way of learning. Schools were all designed

19:39

to create employees. The Rothschilds, Rockefellers,

19:41

they designed the schools to keep you

19:44

pretty much docile, to teach you that you

19:46

get a lunch break and to keep you

19:48

under control. Now, you send a kid who's

19:51

supposed to be outside playing, running free, using

19:53

his imagination and you put him in a

19:55

box in a little room for eight hours

19:57

a day and you let him go outside

19:59

for maybe 30 minutes and

20:01

then this kid is not sitting down, he's

20:03

talking too much, he's trying to use his

20:05

body the way he's supposed to be and

20:07

now he's gonna need

20:09

some Ritalin. He's gonna need some

20:12

medication because he's just too much and then

20:14

the cycle goes on the Ritalin. He goes

20:16

how many kids in America are on this

20:18

Ritalin stuff? Knowing that it's just

20:20

destroying their lives. Also I

20:22

worked Montessori schools and they do a

20:25

lot with nature so they have outdoor

20:27

classrooms. So there's a study done it

20:29

tested these children that were outside in

20:32

the dirt having a lot more activity and

20:34

checked them against other children that would maybe

20:36

have a little activity out there and

20:39

they had a much more diverse microbiome on

20:41

the skin and more diverse microbiome in

20:43

the gut as well as improved immune system.

20:45

How many schools have you heard that are saying they want

20:47

to get rid of recess? Oh yeah. How

20:50

does that make any sense? And

20:52

then that kid who's on Ritalin and

20:54

has raised in that system becomes the

20:56

adult at the computer who's got

20:58

seasonal affect disorder and is depressed and

21:00

on other kinds of medication. Right I

21:03

mean it's simple it's so funny because everyone

21:05

thinks that has to be this big complex

21:07

thing to get healthy when really

21:09

getting out and getting sunlight, getting movement

21:11

and that doesn't have to be exercising

21:13

just getting around doing things. Going for

21:15

a walk first thing in the morning

21:17

within 30 minutes of waking is

21:20

like the most important thing to help your

21:22

circadian rhythms everything getting going right

21:24

and just doing simple things and even

21:26

not having a high intensity overhead lights

21:28

at night putting some lamps down lower

21:30

because that light above your head is

21:32

simulating the sunshine and still thinking you're supposed to

21:34

be up so just maybe lighting

21:36

a candle or set the mood be romantic

21:38

at night and just a few things like

21:41

that and drinking good clean water it's not

21:43

expensive and it's just taking time to relax

21:45

and to smell the roses and do some

21:48

breathing exercises it could really help a lot.

21:50

It's not expensive, it's not complicated.

22:00

So they're shortening our lifespans, creating sick people,

22:02

and now you hear people 30, 40 years

22:04

old with ailments saying, well,

22:08

it's just part of getting older, you know,

22:10

I'm just getting older, and that's the biggest

22:12

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22:14

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Wise Traditions. But

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the thing is, I'm hearing you describe

24:58

this beautiful, idyllic, outdoor life. I

25:00

actually have incorporated some of the habits

25:03

that you've recommended, Stacey, but I also

25:05

think about most people living in cities,

25:07

tied to a desk, working on a

25:09

computer, how do they disconnect? Like, did

25:11

you all have jobs when you first

25:13

left your city life? And did you

25:15

leave those jobs? I

25:17

eventually did. He did, when we first moved out,

25:19

he totally stopped. He was gonna get the farm

25:21

going when we started because we didn't have any

25:23

infrastructure or anything. I was still working, I

25:25

was driving in and coming back. But

25:27

I like to tell, anybody can do any of

25:29

this. I mean, wherever you live, you can go

25:32

outside within a half hour waking up and stretch,

25:34

go for a walk. If you have a dog,

25:36

a dog is the best thing for movement and

25:38

getting sunshine and getting out in nature. You

25:40

can put a YouTube video on and do

25:43

some yoga. And then the other thing that

25:45

I say is eating real, live foods.

25:47

I ferment most, that's how I store everything.

25:49

So by adding a fermented food, I say,

25:52

in each of your meals, try to add

25:54

a live food. So whether it be like

25:56

growing sprouts or microgreens in your home, which

25:58

anybody can do any. anywhere. I really do

26:00

like the microgreens because you can take them in

26:02

your car with you. We drive the truck and

26:04

you can carry them with you wherever they go

26:06

and just cut them off and eat them when you

26:09

need them because they're like 40 times the

26:11

traditional value of the grown up plant and

26:14

then the spouts and those little things you can

26:16

start adding to your daily diet. So when

26:18

I look at my food, let's say for breakfast

26:20

I'm going to make eggs and maybe I'm going

26:22

to put fermented sauce on it. So there I

26:25

got a little live food on it with

26:27

some good real butter and then at lunch time

26:29

let's say I'll have a salad and maybe on

26:31

the salad, well I'll have kombucha. There's my live

26:33

food and then maybe for dinner I'm going

26:35

to have a sprouted or microgreen salad. In that

26:38

way I'm getting a good assortment of live

26:40

foods to my meal. So doing that,

26:42

getting outside, you can ground sitting in your

26:44

chair anywhere, put your feet on the grass

26:46

with a little dew or even in the

26:48

dirt and read a book. I

26:50

mean one of the things that we actually say

26:52

is do the best you can where you're at

26:55

right while you're looking for where you want to

26:57

be because when you leave that spot

26:59

you want to leave that one in a better place

27:01

so the next person that's coming on in the beginning

27:03

of their journey can take up where you left off

27:05

and then you can go to your next place. But

27:08

you can always do a lot of things

27:10

right where you are right now and then

27:12

as you get those things done you just

27:14

grow your list and then if your list

27:16

feels like you need to move to another

27:18

place that's when you start looking to

27:21

get that other place. Yeah because you'll get

27:23

that fire. You start doing and things. And you see

27:25

the results and you feel the results and you want more

27:27

and you're bigger and like whoo so

27:29

it's definitely I could see it happening. Yeah

27:31

even certain things like something else easy.

27:34

Most people are magnesium deficient. So

27:36

getting some magnesium flakes and soaking your feet at

27:38

night. I mean anybody can do

27:40

that and you might sleep better, you might be

27:42

more relaxed, you might have better bowel movements, you

27:44

might not get so stressed or if

27:46

you're going through road rage that might help you, you

27:48

know who knows. I mean it's like little things that

27:50

you can start doing and if too

27:53

many is too much for you to do just start with one,

27:55

do it for a while and then move on to the next

27:57

one. inch by inch makes it a cinch

27:59

yard by yard. makes it hard. I have

28:01

a story about a long

28:04

story, but he's rehabbing a bus, maybe

28:06

for them to have his kind of RV situation, be

28:09

able to travel and have their own bed and all

28:11

the comforts of home. And he's had

28:13

to live out of the city for time as

28:15

he's done this. And he's

28:17

grown stronger. He's lost weight.

28:20

He's happier. He's told

28:22

her he doesn't want to go back

28:24

to the city ever again. Like it's

28:26

been amazing transformation because he made one

28:28

choice that changed everything. That's how

28:31

it is. You never know where

28:33

things will take you. Like we never knew we'd

28:36

be sitting here with almost two million

28:38

subscribers and changing people's lives. I mean

28:41

who could have ever thought that we

28:43

just wanted to go and live healthier

28:45

for ourselves. I mean that's

28:47

why walking in faith is a huge

28:49

thing for us. Like I talked about it. Walking

28:52

in faith, just knowing, feeling that push

28:54

like where you should be headed and

28:56

then just walking in faith doing that.

28:58

I mean it has been phenomenal for

29:00

us. It has changed our life. Just

29:03

being faithful servants and just

29:05

going. Like honestly that's how it is. All

29:07

this stuff, this YouTube stuff, everything that we

29:09

do it's been a fluke because a lot

29:11

of people that you're watching on social media

29:13

are actually starting social media accounts in a

29:15

niche that they think that they can make

29:18

money on and they don't have much knowledge.

29:20

Okay. That's all I'm saying. So when Stacy

29:22

and I started we were doing this because we

29:24

had issues and we wanted to deal with them.

29:26

And then our friend said what you guys are doing out

29:29

here is so cool you should put this stuff up on

29:31

YouTube. We didn't even know what it was. YouTube wasn't paying

29:33

no money. It didn't matter to us but we genuinely in

29:35

our hearts want to help people and I

29:37

believe too that that's another reason why this has

29:39

flourished so well is because we genuinely, we

29:42

don't care about the money or any of this other

29:44

stuff. We never asked anybody for a time. Send us

29:46

money or a patreon or anything. But

29:48

we just want to help humanity. Like

29:50

that's it. When I die

29:53

I'll know that I've fulfilled my life's purpose

29:55

because as Stacy's talked about she

29:57

saw herself like living in a log cabin and she

29:59

saw herself maybe with husbandry, animal husbandry,

30:01

right? And then we were in the city

30:03

locked into these city jobs, which would never

30:06

opportunity that dream to come real.

30:09

And then walking in faith, when I was a kid

30:11

too, I would draw pictures of barns and I would

30:14

draw, like, you know what I mean? Like living in

30:16

the city, like, and they called me cowboy. At

30:18

summer camp, I had a cowboy hat one year and

30:20

they were calling me cowboy and stuff. And I was

30:23

just like, yeah. And in my teens and older growing

30:25

up, I love the city. I love the concrete jungle.

30:27

I lived there, I worked there. I've traveled to many

30:29

different cities. I've been to all the major US cities, but

30:33

now I feel like I'm actually fulfilling my purpose. Like

30:35

I feel it in my heart. Like I always knew,

30:37

I didn't know what. Like my mom will tell you,

30:39

I sent her one time, I sent her this picture

30:41

and I autographed it. And she

30:44

said, why did you autograph that picture? Like you're somebody, like

30:46

you don't know me or something. I said, well, one day

30:48

I'm gonna be famous and I want you to have the

30:50

first picture. So there's just weird stuff

30:52

like that. You know what I mean? And you never know

30:54

how it's gonna happen, but here we are. It's

30:57

so wild. It's just been wild. But walking in faith

30:59

is the biggest part for us. Yeah,

31:01

and I just think, and you learn by doing, and

31:04

then when you learn by doing, then

31:06

you get better at it. And the better you

31:08

get at it, you become, I guess, more of

31:10

an expert of things. 10,000 hours. You

31:12

know what I mean? Yeah, I was watching it,

31:15

like with all these people who are very successful,

31:17

they say 10,000 hours of doing something makes you

31:19

an expert at it. So listen, if

31:21

you guys are watching anybody on social media,

31:23

following anybody, make sure they have the

31:25

10,000 hours. Weston

31:28

Price Foundation has the time to

31:30

tell you, this place has been

31:32

around a long time gathering information.

31:35

You have to be careful, especially now, on

31:38

where you're getting your information. Yes,

31:41

I'll ditto that for sure. And

31:43

I was thinking when you're describing walking by faith,

31:45

I know it has a faith and God component,

31:47

but it also means to me in part. To

31:49

my destiny, like, I mean, what I'm to be,

31:51

like I feel right, you know what I mean?

31:54

Where before I really never felt right. So

31:56

it's kind of a coherence of what

31:59

your spirit wants to do. do and what you actually

32:01

do. Or maybe what if, what

32:04

if, right? What if there is a design

32:06

for us? Like he said, they say, hey,

32:08

he has a plan for you, right? But

32:10

what if we're so bombarded by the enemy,

32:12

right, that we never fulfill our plan because

32:14

we're listening to all the other noise, right?

32:17

So I just feel like we finally

32:19

have got the noise away to where

32:21

we can, we're focused on what the

32:23

father wants us to do, which is

32:25

inadvertently saving people's lives. Wow.

32:29

Right? So it's kind of like when you say

32:31

getting the noise away, it reminds me of, let's say someone

32:33

right now is listening and they're like, Oh yeah, I feel

32:35

inspired. I want to do something. But

32:37

then they get on their phone and

32:39

they spend the next three hours scrolling

32:41

that distraction and that noise may

32:44

tamp down what their intuition or what God

32:46

is leading them to. Let

32:48

me bring that in a little closer. What if

32:50

you tell a friend or a loved one about

32:53

your dream or where you're supposed to be? Usually

32:55

the first thing that happens is they squash it and

32:58

they don't see your dream like you do.

33:01

And so they discourage you and they

33:03

derail it. And that happens a lot.

33:05

Like they could be like, Oh, that's crazy. You don't want to leave

33:07

the city. You've got a good job. Why would you do that? Right?

33:11

They derail your dreams, right? Because they don't see your dreams.

33:13

That's why you got to be careful with that stuff. Telling

33:16

people like what you want to do because a

33:18

lot of people, they just can't see it. And some of

33:20

it might be like a jealousy because they

33:22

can't do it or you know what I mean?

33:24

Or maybe they're scared of losing your friendship. I

33:26

can't tell you the amount of people that won't

33:28

make a move because of friends

33:30

and family. They're stuck in

33:32

a sick lifestyle that they

33:35

know they don't like because

33:37

of friends and family. Like

33:39

maybe their spouse is like, Oh no, honey, you can't

33:41

retire till 65. I don't

33:43

want to grow food, but we'll just buy it

33:45

from the store. Or some people want to stockpile

33:47

food and the spouse says the stores are always

33:49

going to be there or just whatever. Like you

33:51

don't know, there's always that discouragement and stuff. You

33:53

just have to battle through it. Intuition

33:56

is huge, especially you know, you talk

33:58

about women's intuition. for a lot

34:00

of people and I've talked to a lot of

34:02

people and it's funny how you'll have a couple and

34:04

then one is on board and one isn't. So

34:07

it's like how do you navigate through that? So

34:09

it was kind of interesting. Most of the people

34:11

that I talked to would say, I'm still going

34:13

to be doing the food how I want to

34:16

do it. I'm going to grow these things. I'm

34:18

going to make these things. I may not get

34:20

any help from him but hopefully over time eventually

34:22

they'll see it. Why is there one man saying that about the

34:24

woman? Why is there one woman from him? So

34:27

but it was kind of interesting. I talked to

34:29

quite a few people like that and how they're

34:31

still going to do it and hopefully they'll get

34:33

on board and they may. It takes people different

34:36

I guess time to decide when they're going

34:38

to do something. The biggest hang ups are

34:40

friends and family and then just where to start.

34:43

Like where do I start? Like how do I

34:45

get going? Like what do I do? And I

34:48

think a lot of people are looking for this magic

34:50

system or program or something like I don't know but

34:52

just do it. Right? Like just do it.

34:55

Just go for it. Don't be rigid. Make adjustments

34:57

as you go. Spend a lot of

34:59

time figuring out your property. Make sure you find a

35:01

place where you can do what you want to do.

35:03

There's a lot of places where you'll buy property and

35:05

you can't even grow a garden in your yard. So

35:07

make sure you do all your homework up front with

35:09

that. But after that you're just doing what you feel

35:12

and learning what you like and then going from there.

35:14

And then if not we're talking about people what they can

35:16

do if they're living in the city and they can't get

35:18

out. I would recommend getting like pots

35:21

and making like a medicinal like little garden on

35:23

your back deck or wherever and you can get

35:25

a lot of stuff out of these

35:27

medicinal herbs and especially ones that are perennials that

35:29

will come back every year. Like if you're getting

35:31

your oregano or your sage, you can grow peppermint

35:33

and all these things in a pot and you

35:35

can use them for so much with your food

35:37

or making pinchers and different things and they're easy

35:39

to grow even if you haven't grown that much.

35:42

I remember you giving a talk at Home

35:44

Centers of America one time about how to

35:47

live this way even if you're in a city. And

35:50

I think that's part of what you're saying is wherever

35:52

you are you can start with some small changes to

35:54

diversify your microbiome but also to live

35:57

the life you really want. following

36:00

our channel. They're doing rainwater collection. They've got

36:02

raised beds out back. They're pooping in the

36:04

bucket. They're turning off their electricity on weekends

36:06

or something just so they can be disconnected

36:08

totally. I mean, there's a lot of people

36:10

doing it. So just do what you can

36:12

where you are. Don't get hung up on

36:14

that and then make the changes as you

36:16

grow. Yeah. And then we were talking about

36:18

cold showers. The other thing, if you don't want

36:20

to take a cold shower, is washing your face

36:22

in ice cold water. We don't have warm

36:25

water on our sink. It comes out cold, especially in

36:27

the winter. And so when I wash my face, you're

36:29

like, whoo. So that's another alternative. If you don't want

36:31

to do the full ice bath or

36:33

whatever, you could wash your face like that.

36:35

This morning, actually, I went out. It was

36:37

very early. We're staying in an RV park

36:40

and they have one of those bouncing pads

36:42

or whatever. Yeah, it's a big bouncing pad and

36:44

I just love them. They're so much fun. Well, it

36:46

was freezing cold out. I went out barefooted. My feet

36:48

were freezing and I'm bouncing on it and I'm like,

36:50

oh, so I'm getting a little cold therapy like that.

36:52

And I bounced. So that was good for my lymphatic

36:54

system. And I did that and it

36:56

helped me and it made my day wonderful. So that's

36:58

how it started. But I said in our talk earlier,

37:00

I said, everyone needs to be

37:02

uncomfortable every day and something

37:04

that you're doing. Aging is the

37:07

aggressive pursuit of comfort. And

37:09

what does that mean? That means the more comfortable

37:11

you're trying to be, the more sick

37:14

you're going to be because you're not using your body.

37:16

You're not getting sweaty. You're not using your

37:19

muscles. You're just dying. 70 degree

37:21

temperature, nice controlled environment all the time. You're

37:24

meant to be hot and sweat. You're meant

37:26

to be cold. You're meant to get out

37:28

and move your attacks, your body.

37:30

All those things are important for your nervous

37:32

system. Working on your breath. All that is

37:34

just incredible. This is so

37:37

counterintuitive because it seems like most people

37:39

are trying to go for the cushy,

37:41

comfortable life. That's your downfall. That's

37:43

why they build the cities all

37:45

comfortable. And that is originally how

37:47

they enticed everyone from the country

37:49

life. More digits, more gadgets, more

37:52

widgets come into the town. Everything's

37:54

close. And then they started controlling

37:56

the population more and more and

37:58

more. There's a movie. Have you seen

38:00

it called idiocracy? No, but I've heard of it.

38:03

It's there. Yeah. If you guys haven't seen

38:05

the movie, Idiocracy, it's crazy. It kind of

38:07

goes, these people put into like,

38:09

uh, they were frozen. America like 20 years

38:11

from now. Well, it is.

38:14

They came back like years and years, like

38:16

a couple hundred years later and everyone's walking

38:18

around with bad forward head posture because they're

38:20

looking down, drinking their grass with soda,

38:22

drinking Gatorade in the side note. Right

38:25

now in India, they're using soda as

38:28

bug repellent and insecticides. They're

38:30

spraying this is idiocracy live

38:33

and in person in India,

38:35

spraying Coca-Cola and Pepsi on

38:37

crops because, as a

38:39

pesticide, because it's

38:41

cheaper than the actual pesticides. So

38:44

enjoy your Pepsi and your Coke if you're listening

38:46

to the show today. But

38:48

yeah, so it's very interesting to see how the whole

38:51

thing unfolds because we watched this like over 20 years

38:53

ago and we were thought, Oh, that looks like how

38:55

the country's going to be. But when you watch it

38:57

now, it's like, wow. Cause

38:59

people are just walking around, sitting in

39:02

a chair, not moving around. Everyone's overweight,

39:04

playing video games. It's just crazy. And

39:06

we're so comfortable and we're killing ourselves

39:09

by doing that, choosing comfort over discomfort

39:11

and what's really enriching. Oh

39:13

no, it's huge. I mean, I think, well, for

39:15

both of us, I can't say it's the best

39:17

thing that's ever happened to me being part and

39:19

you too. But

39:22

being part of the process, getting out there, cause

39:24

for us, people see us on YouTube and they're

39:26

like, Oh, that's so dreamy, but it's not all

39:29

dreamy because I have to go

39:31

out, like if I'm bottle feeding a baby lamb and it's zero

39:33

degrees out and I have to go out all morning and night

39:35

and all that kind of stuff, it's pretty tough. Or

39:39

I'm going to have to haul a bunch of wood in while it's

39:41

raining. You know what I mean? It's not like all dreamy, wonderful, but

39:43

could be uncomfortable. But I think it

39:45

makes me a stronger person that makes my nervous system stronger. Just

39:48

like the cold showers will and all that. So

39:50

it's totally changed. Yeah. I

39:53

don't think we were made for obviously sitting in

39:56

front of a computer or being in front of screen to be able to

39:58

do that. 24-7,

40:01

outsourcing our brain power to GPS or

40:03

AI. I think we were meant to do

40:06

the manual task, but also the

40:08

spiritually and emotionally fulfilling work

40:11

of gardening and producing our own

40:14

food, as you said, not outsourcing that

40:16

to some middleman. I mean, it

40:18

sounds incredibly satisfying and that doesn't mean it's

40:20

not hard. Oh, no, it's not. And

40:22

then also, when you talk about gardening and all that,

40:24

in the dirt, I mean, the dirt is very healing

40:26

for the body. And it's very

40:28

therapeutic mental health. We were

40:31

talking to, we know somebody who was.

40:33

Yeah, and he came back from Iraq and then

40:35

he was having PTSD, some hard troubles

40:37

with it. And I guess

40:39

he was just flipping through and started finding homestead

40:41

channels on YouTube, started watching

40:44

those and thought, man, maybe I should

40:46

give that a try. Well, it turned out that it was

40:48

great therapy for him. He had created

40:50

a homestead, started dealing with the animals,

40:52

growing food out of the garden, really

40:55

helped his PTSD. Now he actually brings

40:57

veterans to his property as a

41:00

treatment program. And he's

41:02

helping many, many veterans with their

41:04

PTSD through the farm life. Yeah, playing

41:06

in the dirt. So it was just amazing like that.

41:09

This reminds me of your story because you

41:12

all sought out to improve your own health. And

41:14

now you're helping so many other people. So when

41:16

we're in our sweet spot, when we're taking care

41:18

of ourselves, then we have the energy to fulfill

41:21

our dream and make an impact on this world.

41:23

Oh, no, that's so true. And it's one of

41:26

those things that Doug and I, I mean, every

41:28

day, like you say, it's not like rainbows and

41:30

unicorns, but it's totally made our

41:32

life. Well, I better not say it.

41:35

Don't say it. But yeah, it's

41:37

totally, this is one of those things that

41:39

really, like I get really upset and cry

41:41

sometimes when I talk about it, but like,

41:43

I will never want to live where I'm

41:45

not living now because it's so enriching. And

41:47

like now I've said, I will never leave

41:49

the city and I love where I lived

41:51

and I love everything about it. Now when

41:54

I go back, it seems so, it's the

41:56

word I want to say. Surreal? No,

41:58

not surreal, like shallow. Oh, you

42:00

mean to the city life? Yeah, it's just seems because

42:02

it's not what it's about Like we were meant like

42:04

my thing is if I have a roof over my

42:06

head and food in my belly That's

42:09

really all I need because when we first moved

42:11

out to the country like we had we sold

42:14

everything because we were gonna have all We decided

42:16

to just cut the umbilical cord and have nothing

42:18

and start a brand new life So

42:21

we started with nothing and just knowing how like I

42:23

had a hall water because we didn't have water We

42:25

didn't figure out how we were gonna get it yet

42:27

until we got the rainwater catchment. I Realize

42:30

I'm like darn look at all the water people

42:32

are using to flush their toilet because I'm counting

42:34

Look how much it costs to do your laundry

42:36

and to take a bath and people are just

42:38

taking showers after sours and there's like Little

42:41

things like that and then I compost everything So

42:43

like if I go to someone's house I go

42:45

somewhere people just throw everything away in the trash

42:47

because I get rid of everything I compost Everything

42:50

that I have the animals get it or it

42:52

goes into the garden We

42:54

compost our poop and all that and it's just

42:56

crazy And so you look at all this waste

42:58

that people go through and all the plastics I

43:00

try to reuse everything so it

43:02

really forced us to be very Conscientious

43:06

about our life and everything that

43:08

we do our consumer life and

43:10

everything we went from being consumers to

43:12

being producers That's a big thing

43:15

people need to think about Yeah consuming

43:17

is by design by the big dogs So they

43:19

get your money out of you and they keep

43:21

you on the rat wheel So if

43:23

you guys cut your spending down then you're gonna free up

43:25

money to do other things Frivelous

43:27

stuff is definitely on the flavor

43:30

for America Yeah,

43:33

you've got me really thinking about And

43:35

I'm sure the listeners too about what

43:37

our purpose is and what choices we're

43:39

making and how the little things can make a

43:41

big difference And starting small

43:43

is really important. So our choices

43:46

are sabotage Right like

43:48

we're thinking that we have choice But kind

43:50

of we don't because you're being corralled and

43:52

you're being positioned and you're being Broadcast to

43:54

and everything you do is being bombarded with

43:56

their mission of where they want you to

43:58

go. See that That's why when

44:00

we're gonna sell our house and move to

44:02

11 acres, oh my gosh, our friends were

44:04

melting down, you can't leave, you're not going

44:06

there, you would never do that, da da

44:08

da da da da, you know

44:11

what I mean? Because it's all made to

44:13

hold you back so you can't see yourself

44:15

or do what you wanna do or be

44:17

the person that you wanna be. You're always

44:19

confined into the program, the matrix. You

44:22

gotta shut out that noise so you can really get

44:25

back in touch with who you are and whose you are

44:27

to understand your calling. So

44:30

I am so grateful that we've got to connect and that

44:33

our paths have crossed in this divine way. So I wanna

44:35

ask you the question I love to pose at the end

44:38

and it has to do with health. If the listener

44:40

could just do one thing, take one

44:42

step to improve their health, what

44:44

would you recommend that they do? I'll

44:46

go first because I'll be the simplest. I

44:49

would say get out in the morning, get some sunshine

44:51

on your face, put your feet in the dirt and

44:54

stop eating food with ingredients

44:56

that you can't pronounce. Those would be the three

44:58

easiest things right off the bat. Stacy?

45:01

This is so hard, I don't try to think

45:03

for their health. I'm a

45:05

big person for movement and lymphatic movement

45:08

and also movement, period. For

45:10

anybody, no matter, even if you can't get

45:12

out of a chair or anything, you need

45:14

to look into how to do lymphatic massage

45:17

because basically, if you look at

45:20

your lymphatic system, it goes

45:22

through your whole entire body and it does a lot of stuff,

45:24

it gets rid of the waste. It's sort of like the garbage

45:26

man of your body. If

45:28

you think about a toilet, if you just kept

45:30

going to the bathroom in the toilet and the

45:32

toilet never flushes, it's gonna get backed up and

45:34

it's gonna be a big mess. By

45:37

doing basic lymphatic massage, it

45:40

can help flush the toilet in your body. You

45:42

have lymph nodes everywhere. There's probably six key

45:44

places like in your collarbone and then your

45:46

neck and then underneath your arm and then

45:48

in your belly and your groin area and

45:50

behind your knees. By just doing

45:52

some basic massage or some tapping, it can

45:55

kinda help unplug the toilet a little bit

45:57

and all you need to do, I can tell you, there's a doctor.

46:00

It's Dr. Perry Nicholson and he's stopped

46:02

chasing pain. You can go, he's

46:04

got some really good videos where he can show,

46:06

he calls them the big six and they're simple

46:08

little exercises but what that can do is if

46:10

you're suffering from pain or anything or a lot

46:12

of people might in their neck maybe feel like

46:14

they have lymph nodes kind of swollen or under

46:16

your arm or even if you feel

46:19

in your belly and you press into there and

46:21

you feel that kind of get sore and tender,

46:23

that means that there's something clogged up in there

46:25

especially here under the collarbone if you feel a

46:28

little pain or it feels just a little

46:30

tender, that could be that you're a little clogged up

46:32

there. So like if I'm able, let's

46:34

say you're in an airplane or maybe... Don't be

46:36

in an airplane. Or some

46:38

people you know you fly and you have to do certain

46:40

things or if you're in a car for a while and

46:42

you're not able to move or a train or a bus

46:45

or you're out and you're not able to do anything or

46:47

you're in the house or something's happening and you got a

46:49

lot of people coming to your house for visiting and you're

46:51

not able to work out or move or do anything, you

46:53

can do lymphatic massage and I'm going

46:55

to tell you I really

46:58

recommend it. I use

47:00

a rebounder also where I bounce on a mini

47:02

trampoline but this is something that anybody from a

47:04

little kid like children, I teach them grandkids how

47:06

to do that as well as a person who's

47:08

a hundred years old that's maybe sitting in a

47:10

wheelchair that can't get around that would be so

47:12

beneficial for the body to help flush your toilet

47:14

in your body. Oh powerful

47:16

words. I love both of you so much.

47:18

Thank you for your time today. All right. Thanks

47:21

for hanging out with us. Thank you Hilda. This was

47:23

great. Our

47:27

guests today were Doug and Stacey. Check

47:30

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47:32

to learn more. I am

47:34

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47:36

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