We met Amber at Minnedemo and were so taken with her approach to creating her app, we knew we needed to share her story with you. In this episode we talk a bit about her journey from “SAP Land” to creating her startup, how she came to create Bella Scena, and why she is so taken with human-centered design (as she defines it, “a super fancy pants way of saying I talked to customers a lot”). Woven into our conversation are some key reasons why inclusion is not just a buzzword - it is essential to design and creating good, usable stuff. To learn more about Wonderly, visit them here: https://wonderlysoftwaresolutions.com/. If you are interested in the 99% Invisible podcast mentioned in this episode, give it a listen: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/invisible-women/.