In episode 16 of With(in) -- The Great Bridge -- we traverse the idea of bridging our differences, and what it will take to make real change in our country. Associate Producer Sean Marshall (incarcerated at Denver Regional Diagnostic Center) and Segment Host Brett Phillips (incarcerated at Sterling Correctional Facility) delve into what it means to have empathy for people with a disparate point of view, and the roadblocks to creating understanding. Sean continues by speaking with Kevin James (incarcerated at Buena Vista Correctional Facility) on his life’s journey, and how he has been affected by his surprising revelation that he is a Blue Lives Matter proponent. Dr. Ashley Hamilton, Executive Producer, talks with Executive Director, CDOC Dean Williams who laments the fact that race has never been reconciled in this country and his efforts to resolve that fact. Then Co-Host Andrew Draper (incarcerated in Sterling Correctional Facility) has a fascinating conversation with Colorado Department of Corrections Deputy Director Andre Stancil about the difficulties of being a black man in law enforcement, and his drive to make real and lasting change within the Department of Corrections through the G.R.A.A.C.E. Alliance. Co-Host Denise Presson (incarcerated in Denver Woman’s Correctional Facility) reminds us that now that we know, we can not ever unknown it, and exhorts us to do something to create change, to not just “sit there.”