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October 16, the Amys Are Back

October 16, the Amys Are Back

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October 16, the Amys Are Back

October 16, the Amys Are Back

October 16, the Amys Are Back

October 16, the Amys Are Back

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Amy G, our show's back and you're back.

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months

0:29

sabbatical. That's right. After

0:31

three years of writing and promoting

0:33

my last book, I needed to mark the

0:36

end of that exhausting chapter. So no work,

0:40

no social media, no to-do lists

0:42

for three months.

0:44

It was very restful

0:48

and I have to say, I also realized modern

0:50

life is really busy, even when you take

0:52

out all of those things. So I'd like

0:54

to say I was like sitting in like Lotus

0:57

Yoga pose for three months, but

0:58

I was running around. Yeah, but do

1:01

you feel refreshed and restored? Refreshed

1:04

is maybe too strong.

1:06

I do feel like things became clearer,

1:09

like what mattered became clear, how I

1:11

wanted to spend my time.

1:13

And I just feel more excited to tackle

1:15

things. I was at the point where anything came in my

1:17

inbox or across my desk, my

1:19

metaphorical desk, and I was like, no. And

1:22

now I'm feeling like, oh yeah, that'll be fun.

1:25

You know, fall for me is sort of like a rebirth

1:27

season and I feel I'm feeling ready

1:30

and rested and, you know, let's

1:33

do this thing. Well, that's good because we have

1:35

a ninth season coming out. On

1:37

Monday, October 16th. So

1:40

let's go through the lineup a little bit. We

1:42

just recorded an episode where we revisit

1:45

our past professional failures.

1:48

That was fun. Vandar

1:51

producer asked us to think about failures

1:53

in advance of that recording, which it's a very

1:55

humbling task. Oh my gosh. I

1:58

mean, and did you did you toy with

1:59

question of,

2:02

you know, should I really talk

2:04

about my failures or should I have, you

2:06

know, a faux failure like, you know, I

2:09

got a story in late last week.

2:11

Would you agree to sweetness? It's actually my

2:13

greatest strength. Yeah. No, I did and

2:16

I did end up talking about a failure I had not

2:18

planned, which was very recent and I have

2:20

to say made my stomach

2:21

turn a little bit. Yeah, they always do. They're

2:23

really cringy, but I enjoyed that conversation

2:26

a lot. Yeah, me too. I would hope it'll encourage

2:28

our listeners to revisit their own

2:30

failures, like whether they're real or perceived

2:33

and put them into perspective. Right, because

2:35

failure is part of any job

2:37

and learning to take responsibility,

2:40

you know, but not more

2:42

responsibility than you ought

2:44

to, not more than your fair share is really important.

2:46

Yeah. And then

2:48

moving on, the most important thing. Yes,

2:50

moving on, which clearly we

2:52

are still doing. I'm excited

2:54

to listen to the conversations you had with those two

2:57

experts on adult ADHD. I haven't heard

2:59

them yet, but you mentioned how enlightening

3:01

they were. Well, first of all, I learned

3:04

that ADHD is a serious

3:06

problem. Someone first needs

3:08

to have a very robust understanding

3:10

of what it means to have ADHD.

3:13

If I just think, oh, I just struggled to focus,

3:16

then I'm not going to understand that it actually

3:18

affects every single aspect of

3:21

every single minute of my life. Did

3:23

you know that? I didn't. I really

3:25

didn't. Yeah, and it shows up in a variety of ways

3:27

that sounded painfully familiar to me.

3:30

We only have so much bandwidth, and

3:32

I have worked with women who

3:35

have told me no one at work would

3:37

ever guess I had ADHD, but

3:40

because it's so exhausting for me

3:42

to keep all that organized,

3:45

the rest of my life is in chaos.

3:47

So we will definitely talk

3:50

about that. Yeah. You

3:52

spoke with a couple of disability advocates,

3:54

Amy. Oh, they were fantastic. That

3:56

conversation for me so far

3:59

in this season... has just been one of the most

4:01

eye-opening in terms of understanding

4:04

what it's like to navigate

4:06

a workplace, what

4:09

accommodations you need when you're

4:11

living with a disability. And whether that

4:13

disability is apparent, people can see it because you're

4:16

perhaps in a wheelchair or non-apparent

4:19

and struggling with ADHD

4:22

or even autism. Especially

4:24

when it comes to behavioral things, people can be

4:27

very judgmental. I have found a

4:29

lot more willingness to accommodate

4:32

my physical disabilities

4:34

than

4:35

my neurodivergence.

4:37

I'm really looking forward to that conversation.

4:39

Oh, and I know we have a ton

4:41

of perspectives and advice to share from

4:43

women who've served on boards.

4:45

When I look back, I could have never imagined

4:48

that I would be providing

4:51

input in this way. Four years ago, I was

4:53

a student in that program, and now I'm contributing

4:57

to the future of this program.

4:59

And if you're worrying that you're not an expert in

5:01

that particular field or in that particular area,

5:03

consider that outside ignorance is

5:05

a good thing to really test what's happening

5:08

and why and whether that's the best way

5:10

of doing things. I didn't realise

5:12

the sense of satisfaction

5:14

doing something like this would give me. It

5:16

was only once I entered into it. And

5:20

the deep sense of purpose and meaning one gets

5:22

from contributing to things where

5:24

you stretch yourself and you're not so

5:26

sure, but you go there and you do it anyway.

5:29

And that's

5:30

only a sample of the collective

5:32

wisdom that you'll hear. For anyone

5:34

who's never considered joining a board

5:37

or assumed they weren't qualified, this

5:39

episode's going to change your thinking.

5:41

And then we've got one episode

5:43

that will be an Ask the Eamese, one

5:45

of my favourite episodes we do, where

5:48

you tell us, you listeners, not

5:50

Amy B, tell us about your interpersonal, managerial,

5:53

career problem. We think it over

5:55

and then give you our take. If

5:57

you want our advice on...

6:00

something you're struggling with right now, email

6:02

women at work at hbr.org

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to contribute.

6:10

Again, season 9 starts Monday,

6:12

October

6:12

16th. More from

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us then. And don't forget to follow

6:17

the show wherever you listen to

6:18

podcasts.

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