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Welcome. Today, we have

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Annette Marinaccio.

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She is a certified public accountant,

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an accomplished healthcare executive,

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and the author of Your Soul Focus.

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Her mother in law led Annette

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on a path after she died to prove

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to her that there is an afterlife. After

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understanding that the afterlife is

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existent, Annette learned how

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intricate and extensive our souls

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and our journeys are. The

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information that Annette has accumulated

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and conveyed has a clear

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and deep benefit to others during

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their times of need, you. grief, or

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curiosity, and your soul

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focus will pass that knowledge onto

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you. Your soul focus has

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been endorsed by three Long Island mediums

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with a public presence. It has reached

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number one on Amazon three times. It

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has dozens of five star reviews.

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A chapter was included in a Saturday

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Night Live skit, and most

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importantly, it has brought comfort

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and inspiration to thousands

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of readers. Welcome, Annette!

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Thank you so much for having me, Megan. Thank you

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so wonderful to have you here and

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hear your experience. I

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love sharing stories of other women

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who come from

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all different walks of life and

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find out that there is

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an unseen world. That

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is really the realm that I

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like to dwell in and I love

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opening up that world to other people

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and I love hearing everyone's story

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about how they discovered it. So

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thank you for being

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willing to share your story.

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Thank you.

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So my first question that I ask everybody

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on the show is, what

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does enlightenment mean to you?

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That's a great question. For

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me, when I hear the word enlightenment, I automatically

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think of waking up, awake or more

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light. And so

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I think that most people

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throughout their earthly life are

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on a trajectory to

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be enlightened a

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little bit as they go. And

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so to some extent, some people get enlightened

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very early on. Some people, it

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takes a little bit more time and maybe

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some people never get there, but it is certainly

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the opening of your soul to

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let light in. That's what I think of when

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I think of enlightenment.

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I completely agree and that works so

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perfect because the intro to the

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show as the listeners know as I

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say let's bring in the light, because

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that's really what to me

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it is as well. Light is all of

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the spiritual energy around us, right?

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And the 3D versus

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the 4D or the 5D is that density

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of that frequency and

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the amount of light that we are actually

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aligned with. Or

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not,

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that's true. And I, I like to sometimes

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if people say, what is it like to

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be on the other side or how can a soul

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be in more than one place at once meaning

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visiting, my sister at the same

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time that they're visiting me. And I

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always say, just think of light, light

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is, can be many places at

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once, it travels very far,

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very fast. It's very vast. And

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so I think that that's

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what we are. Once we shed

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these physical bodies, we're like a

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light energy.

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Mm hmm. For sure. So tell

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the listeners a little bit about how

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you went from healthcare

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executive and CPA

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to writing a book about

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the afterlife.

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Sure. And, and I still am a CPA

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and, and a healthcare executive and I love

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that. I I really enjoy my work.

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But after my mother in law

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died, which was 2006,

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she became very intent

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on proving to me that

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she was still here, that we

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go on after we die. And

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I, I don't know that I would say I was skeptical,

4:38

I just really had never thought about it that

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much, and so once

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I accepted the fact

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that she is still with

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us, even though she crossed,

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I was then very obsessed. I

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was like, wait a minute. If

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we go on, this was my one question. If

4:57

we go on, what are we doing

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here? Like, I don't understand

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the connection between there and here.

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And so I felt very

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much like an accountant. I

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needed to understand that. I mean,

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that's just a way I. I work. That's

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the way I am at work. It's the way I am at home. So

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I was like, I need to understand this. So

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I then spent four years researching

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everything metaphysical. I just needed

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to really understand, okay,

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I get it. You're still here. Why?

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Why? Then why am I here? And

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you're there. I don't get it. And so

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once I really had a good handle

5:38

on sort of how the universe

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works to a larger extent,

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which took about four years. I then was very

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satisfied and I sort of stopped

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and thought, okay, I'll just live my life a little

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bit differently. I have this deep

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knowledge and it. It will

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help me in all walks of life. And so I just sort

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of stopped being obsessed

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with the metaphysical. And then as the universe

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would have it, I was placed in the path

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of people throughout the next three or

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so years that really

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would benefit from a piece of what I had learned.

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So whether it was a coworker going through some

6:14

horrible grief situation or someone

6:16

scratching their head about why something was happening

6:19

in the universe, the way it was happening.

6:21

And I was like, Oh, I. I can figure that out

6:23

because I, what I had learned, or I know what's

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happening here, or have you seen the signs

6:27

from your mother or whatever? And then

6:30

after about three years of that and, and

6:32

people saying to me, Oh my goodness,

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that was so eyeopening to me or life

6:36

changing. You changed my life and

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I'm not like a doctor or a nurse. I'm an accountant,

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so I'm not used to getting that kind of feedback

6:43

that I've. Changed somebody's life. So

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that was like great feedback for me. And

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then I was like, you know, something, I think I'm supposed

6:50

to put this in a book because I

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can really synthesize

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everything I've learned into

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a really like digestible

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usable format

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so that And an everyday

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person can pick it up

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and say, oh, I didn't think of it that way. Oh,

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I didn't realize that. Oh, and so that's

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what I did. And so I put that book

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out and I'm

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glad I did. I knew when I. Put

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it out that it would have an energy of its own

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and and it does so, that's

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sort of crossed over from

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just the 3d world to

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understanding the universe more and still living

7:31

in the 3d world,

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yes, and I love how you were still

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able to have one

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foot in each world and that you've

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found a way to integrate what you've

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learned and still.

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Exist in that other world, partly

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because, like you said, you're

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needed in that world. So the

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other people that were coming around you that were looking

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for the guidance and your

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experience could help them is

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it really answers that question.

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But why are you there and I'm here.

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Right. Yeah, that's absolutely true. And

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the more people we help one on one

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one to many people, but the more people

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we help to open their eyes or

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their heart or their soul to the

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fact that This earthly life

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is just really a sliver of what we're really

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about. I think that it's better off

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for all of us. So I

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also learned early on when I

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first put the book out that

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sharing, which is what you mentioned at the beginning,

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sharing, sharing is very important. So

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I'm all happy to share at any

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point, anytime anybody wants me to

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talk about it. I can talk

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about the afterlife for a very

8:44

long time. I can also talk about. Physician

8:46

compensation and contracting, but

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those two topics I can speak about

8:53

for a very long time because they really

8:55

interest me and I love to share.

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It's what lights you up and that's what you should

8:59

share. Yes. It's

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the power of suggestion. So many times

9:04

when you

9:06

start to talk about something when you bring

9:08

a topic to the fore. That

9:11

people aren't used to talking about.

9:13

Sometimes there'll be resistance,

9:15

but more than often it's, wow,

9:17

that's so interesting. I never thought about

9:19

that, which is what I get a lot. Cause

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a lot of people just don't think about

9:24

their dreams. Don't think they're important. Don't understand

9:26

why you would and

9:29

have never heard of what I

9:31

do and don't understand the

9:33

benefit of it. They might say, well, why would we do that?

9:36

Well, what's the benefit? And

9:38

so it's really pulling

9:41

them out from where they are

9:43

to gain a greater appreciation

9:46

of their experience here.

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That's true. And, and once I had

9:51

that better understanding about the universe,

9:53

it did help

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me even in my work, my career

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just take a different approach. attitude

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about the people that I work with every day.

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And and so that was very helpful too,

10:06

just having both of those aspects

10:09

of my interest and personality,

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having them be aligned.

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I love talking about synchronicities because that

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is something that I experience

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daily and follow

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and the more you follow them, the more they happen

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and I know that you've experienced that

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as well on your journey.

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That's true. I mean the entire,

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beginning of my eyes being open was

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a series of synchronicities. My mother

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in law she left breadcrumbs. So

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she was like a little synchronicity, a little breadcrumb,

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a little breadcrumb, and then when you put it all together,

10:45

you have a beautiful, Brioche

10:49

loaf of bread, but she really left

10:51

those breadcrumbs, which was a series

10:53

of synchronicities to help me

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open my eyes. And because I'm an accountant,

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I think the other side, cause she enlisted

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my deceased relatives and my spirit

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guides, which at the beginning of this, I didn't want to have to believe

11:04

in spirit guides, but now I understand they

11:06

exist. That seemed a little bit out there for me,

11:08

but now I understand it's, it's part of it. But

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they really. Fed

11:14

me the information

11:16

about the other side, like a

11:18

morsel at a time, because they knew

11:20

that my accounting brain was not going to just, you

11:23

know, all of a sudden

11:25

embrace the possibility

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that we go on. So

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I needed really to, to be

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spoon fed a little bit at a time. And

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then even after I accepted that

11:38

we go on, they spoon fed

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me. Information about

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how the universe works just

11:46

a little bit at a time. So I was able to sort

11:48

of pick up a piece and pick up a piece and pick

11:50

up another piece until I felt

11:52

very comfortable that I

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understand. I can understand

11:57

the universe now. I can understand why

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things happen. It's not so

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foreign to me anymore

12:02

It's a wonderful perspective to gain and,

12:05

and to share and I love

12:07

following them because I find that they

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just appear more and more and more

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when you do. But

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for the people that are listening who say

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spirit guide, what is that? And

12:18

because you have come from

12:21

the other side of

12:23

the very structured scientific

12:26

side, explain to

12:28

the listeners how you came to accept

12:31

that, to understand that in a way

12:33

that's accessible, like you said.

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So with spirit guides, to

12:39

learn about spirit guides, I did a lot of reading just

12:41

to learn about the metaphysical A

12:44

lot of what I read did not resonate

12:46

with me or didn't make sense, but a lot of what I read did.

12:49

And so what I learned with spirit guides

12:51

is that we have many

12:54

of them and some guide us for our entire

12:56

life, but many are, are

12:58

with us for a portion of

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our life. So for instance, if we have

13:02

young children, maybe this spirit guide

13:05

is with us when our children are young.

13:07

And then when they're not so young anymore, that spirit

13:09

guide will go and help somebody else. And they're souls

13:12

that we did not know,

13:15

they're not the same as guardian angels, they're souls that we did

13:17

not know on earth. But when we cross

13:20

back over, we'll know them immediately.

13:22

And the only direct,

13:25

I'll say, interaction that I had

13:27

with one of my spirit guides happened

13:29

through a dream, and it was just so

13:32

powerful. And it was occurring

13:34

during that four years when

13:37

my mother in law and my deceased

13:39

relatives were starting to

13:41

show me a little bit at a time

13:43

what the universe is about. And so,

13:46

at this one particular time, my daughter was, I

13:48

think, 16 at the time, and

13:51

so maybe it was like, 20, 10

13:53

or something, maybe three or four years

13:55

after my mother in law had died. And I was still

13:57

learning about everything metaphysical. And

13:59

I was falling asleep at night and my daughter came into me

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and she said that her friend had

14:04

been promoted. On

14:06

the dance team that they had been on

14:08

the the traveling dance troupe for

14:10

the maybe five years and now her friend had been

14:12

promoted to a, to a higher level dance troupe.

14:16

And I had very mixed feelings about that because

14:18

this was her good friend and they traveled

14:20

together and they roomed together and they spent their free

14:22

time together and it was difficult

14:25

for me. To see now my daughter

14:27

is going to have to be

14:30

in a very different situation when

14:32

she travels, because this girl is on this, on

14:35

a different dance group. And so I was struggling

14:37

with that and I was falling asleep.

14:39

So, cause I was going to sleep that night. And so she came

14:42

into it and she said guess what? Michelle has been promoted,

14:44

blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't know what to

14:46

say at first. And I'm glad I didn't. Say

14:50

anything that upset her more instead.

14:52

I just said so what do you think about that?

14:55

And she thought for a minute and she said, well, I'm,

14:58

I'm very happy for Michelle. And I'm glad

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that I left it open ended like that

15:02

and didn't have her

15:04

be in a position where she had to deal with my feelings

15:06

too, so she just worked through them on her

15:09

own. But as I was falling asleep, I was

15:11

very upset and I was thinking, okay,

15:13

tomorrow I've got to approach the dance teacher.

15:16

And I've got to say, can you promote my

15:18

daughter, Diana? Can you promote Diana too? I mean,

15:20

they're comparable dancers. Are they that

15:22

different? I mean, they've been together for five

15:24

years. They travel together. We're like, why break So I'm

15:26

playing and playing in my head what I'm

15:28

going to tell this dance teacher. And

15:31

and then I fell asleep and the next thing

15:33

I know it was like three

15:35

in the morning, which is often a time

15:38

that that the other side will help you

15:40

with dreams two, three, four o'clock in the morning,

15:42

they'll come through. So it was about a little bit after three

15:45

and I woke up after this dream. And usually

15:47

if it's a dream, if it's a powerful dream

15:50

that you're meant by the other side

15:52

to remember, you will wake up right afterwards. They will

15:54

make sure. That you remember this

15:56

dream. So I woke up

15:58

and, and the dream was so fresh

16:00

in my head that I ran to my closet and

16:03

wrote down what my spirit

16:05

guide had told me. So it was very,

16:07

very fresh. But what had happened was this

16:10

fellow came to me and In

16:12

my book, I sort of said he was, he looked

16:14

to me to be maybe in his 30s

16:16

or 40s, he had straight brown

16:18

hair, he had a, a fur tie

16:21

clasp, fur vest on,

16:24

and I didn't write it in the book, but he looked

16:26

like Keanu Reeves, that's what he looked like to me,

16:28

like very pointed, dark eyes,

16:31

and he just stared at me, and

16:33

he said, drop it, really

16:36

forceful, and I was just

16:38

like, What? And now

16:40

I was, it was not verbal,

16:42

the discussion, but it

16:44

was telepathic, but he said, definitely

16:46

said, drop it. And I was like,

16:49

what? I didn't know what he meant. And

16:51

I'm looking in his eyes, and I knew

16:53

he was from the same place that

16:56

my mother in law was from. I knew

16:58

that he was from the other side. At,

17:01

the time the dream was happening and he said

17:03

it again, drop it. And I didn't know

17:06

what he meant. And so I looked at him

17:08

with a big question mark on my face.

17:10

It was a big question mark. And then

17:12

he, he asked

17:15

me to look down and between him

17:17

and me, there was vast,

17:20

black, infinite abyss of space,

17:22

let's say. And I looked down

17:25

into what was this fast swirling

17:28

tornado. It was like a funnel. I was looking

17:31

down into this funnel, and

17:33

it was spinning so fast. So

17:35

it was like looking in down into the inside of a

17:37

tornado. And I've seen since

17:39

then something called the Whirlpool Galaxy,

17:42

which reminds me of it, although the Whirlpool Galaxy,

17:44

when you look at it, is, is it looks like a flat

17:47

situation, a swirl, this

17:49

was a tunnel kind of swirl. And

17:51

then he said it drop it. You

17:54

cannot recreate the living

17:56

spirit and in one

17:59

split second, I knew exactly

18:01

what he meant. It was unbelievable.

18:04

So I went from not knowing to knowing

18:06

and what he meant was that

18:09

swirl. is all of

18:11

the souls of the universe, the ones

18:13

on earth, the ones not on earth, your spirit

18:15

guides any dimension.

18:17

It's every soul of the universe and

18:19

it's swirling forward. It's

18:22

the living spirit, all of us together,

18:24

and it's moving so fast. And

18:27

no matter what we do, How

18:29

much we want to, the

18:31

force is so great that

18:34

we can't turn it back a notch. We

18:36

can't because it's not just

18:39

me. It's not just you. It's

18:41

all of us all together moving

18:44

forward, forward, forward. The force

18:47

is so strong. So

18:50

I knew exactly what he meant. I

18:52

can't go back. I can't. I

18:54

can't. There's nothing I can do to

18:56

change what occurred. I've got to

18:59

move forward. I have no option.

19:01

And then I thought to myself, this

19:03

is what grief is made of grief is always

19:06

trying to say I wish

19:08

I could. I wish something else.

19:10

I wish I had what I had before. I wish

19:12

my deceased loved one was still with me. I

19:14

wish I was still able to hug this person. I wish

19:17

I was still young. I wish I was still

19:19

thin the way I was young, whatever. So it's

19:22

like wanting to. Recreate

19:24

the living spirit and his

19:27

message was, you cannot recreate

19:29

the living spirit. Like even if things haven't

19:31

changed for you, they've changed for millions

19:34

of other souls. And that force

19:36

of the universe is too great for

19:38

you to think that you can recreate

19:40

something. So that

19:44

was his message. Drop it. You cannot

19:46

recreate the living spirit. And in that split

19:48

second, I knew exactly what he meant.

19:51

I couldn't go backwards. My only option

19:53

was to accept what had occurred and go forward. That

19:55

was my only option. And so

19:57

I woke up, ran to the closet, wrote it down the

19:59

next morning. I had no qualms,

20:02

none about my

20:04

daughter's friend being promoted on the dance troupe. I was.

20:06

I was perfectly happy. My daughter was going

20:08

to go on in this new, new

20:10

set of circumstances and that was the end of things.

20:13

I wasn't going to talk to the teacher. There was no purpose

20:15

in that. It was what it was. And

20:17

I was very accepting of everything.

20:19

And the interesting thing is it was life changing

20:21

for me because from that point in my

20:23

life on, I can accept

20:26

when things change even

20:29

when I don't want them to, which is very often,

20:31

right? Very easily. I think. Very

20:33

easily I've learned I can't

20:35

recreate the living spirit. I can't go back

20:38

and change anything.

20:40

I can't recreate it. We're all

20:42

connected and it's moving forward

20:44

for all of us. And that's our obligation

20:47

to recognize, our responsibility to recognize.

20:51

that we have to move forward with new

20:53

circumstances every single second of every

20:55

single day. We cannot go back. We cannot

20:57

recreate it. So that was very

20:59

powerful. And I, when I woke up, I immediately

21:01

knew he was a spirit guide. I knew it.

21:04

I just knew it. I didn't know

21:06

whether he's my spirit guide, like for

21:08

my entire life here, whether he was

21:10

just came to me to show me that I

21:12

have no idea. I don't know if I'll ever see him

21:14

again or if I'll never see him again. I've never

21:16

seen him since then. But I knew

21:19

he was a spirit guide and I was so

21:21

grateful, so grateful. I

21:23

mean, throughout, for all these years, it

21:26

has just changed. It was life changing. I

21:28

can just move on. With things

21:31

far easier than

21:33

prior to that dream

21:35

that's so powerful dreams can be so powerful

21:39

so many times I feel like people just think that dreams

21:41

are happening in a vacuum. And

21:44

that what you're experiencing is

21:46

nonsensical or non purposeful.

21:50

And they really do just hold so

21:52

much potential to change our entire

21:54

lives. I mean, that's the transformational

21:56

power of them.

21:59

And they really are the

22:01

doorway to not

22:03

just sleep time. The dream

22:05

world is not just

22:08

imagination. It's

22:11

really an interdimensional portal.

22:13

In my opinion,

22:14

I agree. And I think sometimes people

22:16

discount dreams because many,

22:19

of course, not all, but many don't make

22:21

sense. They don't make sense to us.

22:23

So you can't piece it together, but even

22:25

the ones that don't make sense, if they're not coming

22:28

from the other side, there are aspects

22:30

to them that are

22:32

worth dissecting because Even

22:34

though the entire thread of the dream may

22:37

not make sense, or there are parts of the dream

22:39

that don't make sense, there are probably

22:41

little tidbits in there that do

22:43

make sense. And I learned that during the time,

22:46

during those three or four years, because

22:49

I'm very, very left brain dominant.

22:51

My brain is very analytical,

22:54

computer like. I've tried meditating.

22:56

For years, I meditated. I was hoping

22:59

to see the other side. I wasn't able to do that.

23:01

I'm just very left brain dominant. So

23:04

the easiest

23:07

way for the other side

23:09

to come through to me when I needed to learn

23:11

about what I needed to learn about was

23:14

really dreams and signs because

23:17

signs would be something outside

23:19

of me. I didn't have to process it in my

23:21

brain, right? So something outside of me, and

23:23

then I would just see it and

23:26

understand it, or dreams

23:28

because I could get through to me. In

23:30

the evening, because your brainwaves are different

23:32

in the evening, so easier for them to

23:34

get through to me. So I had several dream downloads

23:37

when I had to learn. It's interesting because after I

23:39

wrote the book my, my friend

23:41

said to me Oh, your mother in law must have

23:43

been such a strong person because she started me on this

23:45

journey. And I said, she was strong, but

23:47

I don't know that she was so much stronger than everybody else. And

23:50

then she said, well, you must've been so close,

23:52

the two of you. And I was like, we were close. You know,

23:54

I definitely loved, loved her. And I know

23:56

sometimes people have not great relationships

23:59

with their in laws, but we had a great relationship. So

24:01

But I don't know that we were so much closer than she's closer

24:04

than anybody else. Then my friend said, well, why did she pick

24:06

you to come through to? And I was like,

24:08

I don't know. And then she thought about it and she came

24:10

back like an hour later. And she said, I know why,

24:13

because she knew you'd write a book. She

24:15

knew you'd share it. And I was like, you know, that's

24:18

true. Because in that three years, I

24:20

was, So entrenched

24:23

in learning everything metaphysical

24:25

and, and getting my head around it

24:27

and, and summarizing it. Because

24:30

I felt like I wanted it in a digestible format

24:32

that could be here after I'm gone.

24:34

Somebody picks up this book, the aspects

24:36

of it still pertain. So so

24:39

at any rate, I was like, that's true. And

24:41

I think my spirit guides and

24:43

my deceased loved ones knew that.

24:46

And so during that time period, they

24:48

spent time getting through to me. But

24:50

now I'm just very in tune to it. So

24:52

The other day, I was going out to eat with some friends

24:55

and while I was driving there,

24:57

the license plate in front of me was a very

25:00

clear message, said a word, very clear message

25:02

for somebody that I was meeting with. So

25:04

I just snapped a picture of it. And

25:06

when I got there, I was like, hey Margaret,

25:09

saying hello to you because I knew who it was coming

25:11

from. And so now I'm very in tune to it,

25:13

but I needed during that time

25:15

period, I

25:17

needed the other side to communicate to me

25:20

as best they could. And it was signs

25:22

because those were physical and I could see them and

25:25

and dreams for

25:27

the most part.

25:29

Yes, and I think those are so accessible

25:32

to everybody. Everybody dreams

25:34

every night, even if you think you don't. And

25:36

even if you don't remember them, they're there for

25:38

you. And the synchronicities

25:40

during the day, I mean, they're there too. You

25:42

just have to notice them. And

25:45

I feel the same way. I'm the,

25:48

Writer in the family. I have a mother in

25:50

law that's passed as well, my father as

25:52

well. And so I really

25:54

am the one that will write about

25:56

it, and that will try to

25:59

get everyone else to understand that

26:02

that's not the end, that we are just spirits

26:04

having a human experience is what I always say

26:06

and that there's spirits

26:09

around us all the time and people

26:11

just don't want to accept that. It's a little

26:13

bit destabilizing. It

26:15

carries a lot of stigma. They don't really know

26:18

how to integrate that, the other

26:20

world with this world. It

26:22

doesn't seem scientifically

26:24

proven, which actually brings me to, you said

26:27

that you participate in

26:29

an organization that is doing

26:31

that work.

26:32

That's true forever family foundation.

26:35

So I am very active in the

26:37

forever family foundation on the board

26:39

and I help with all the events and,

26:41

I connected with them in 2007

26:44

after my mother in law had died. And

26:47

the organization was started

26:49

by a couple who happened,

26:51

although it's an international organization, they happen to

26:53

live a half hour from me. So

26:55

I went to a couple of their sessions initially,

26:58

and I was just enamored because

27:01

They were very practical

27:04

and they were trying to scientifically prove that there's an afterlife

27:06

after the loss of their then 14

27:09

year old daughter. So, because the daughter

27:11

started coming through and they just

27:14

were, you know, similar to what I was going

27:16

through. Let's see if we can prove this. And

27:18

so I am. really

27:21

honored to just be part of that organization.

27:24

It helps a lot of people in grief.

27:26

I sort of say there are like two overall

27:28

arching types of grief. One

27:31

is for people who don't believe

27:33

that we go on. Very difficult

27:35

to pull out of that when you lose somebody,

27:37

if you really think that that's it. But

27:40

there is still another very

27:42

valid grief process for

27:44

people who understand you go on

27:47

and you get messages from the other side, even,

27:49

but you're not going to and you'll see them when you

27:51

get to the other side, but you're never going to have the same relationship

27:54

that you had here. You can't hold them,

27:56

you can't speak with them the way you used to.

27:58

So there's still grief involved even

28:01

after you know that, you'll

28:04

Connect with them again, and you can connect with them now,

28:06

but you're still not going to have what you had before.

28:08

Can't recreate that living spirit. So

28:11

there's still that grief also, but this organization

28:14

really is centered around

28:17

helping people. Connect

28:19

with their loved ones and understand that

28:21

their loved ones still go on. So

28:24

there's a lot of great literature on the

28:26

Forever Family Foundation website. Whether

28:29

we were part of the Surviving Death series,

28:31

there's a Netflix series, Surviving Death. There were

28:33

six episodes. Great, the

28:36

fourth episode we're featured in. We

28:38

also have. information

28:40

on EVP, electronic voice phenomenon, where we

28:43

can really you, you leave your, your

28:45

telephone out and ask a question same time

28:47

every day and you, and then play it back

28:49

on your computer. And you, sometimes you can get

28:51

the other side actually saying things. And

28:54

we have great, my book is a recommended read,

28:56

but there are a lot of books on there that are great

28:58

recommended reads for all different

29:01

types of people. So, and

29:03

then we hold. Grief retreats,

29:05

which are quarterly, we do

29:07

them quarterly. We limit it to about

29:09

50 people, which is difficult

29:11

because every single time there's a waiting list

29:13

of like 180 people. But

29:16

we try and limit it to get the best experience out

29:18

there. And it's a very immersive weekend

29:20

where you've got counselors

29:23

there, psychiatrists, psychologists

29:25

social workers and mediums.

29:28

So the mediums bring through spirit.

29:30

And and then we usually have like a metaphysical

29:33

practitioner or something like that too. So,

29:35

but it's a very immersive weekend, and it's, that's

29:38

a really life changing weekend. People walk

29:40

out of that just transformed. And

29:42

so I love that. I love helping.

29:45

So and my, the

29:47

founders, the couple that are founders. Phran

29:50

is P H R A N, she

29:53

died in 2020 and

29:56

so she's now on the other side,

29:58

so she actually has come through with me in

30:00

my dreams a couple of times

30:03

to help me think things through with

30:05

with the conferences and things like

30:08

that, so that's really cool, and

30:10

the I actually I

30:12

didn't want to have to publish my book, but

30:14

I ended up publishing my book and the name

30:17

of the company is Inphinite Lumen. I,

30:19

it's my company, but I made PH

30:21

in honor of Fran, Inphinite Lumen

30:23

PH, and then Lumen, my mother in law's name was Lucille.

30:27

So Lumen, and I will say that

30:29

the physical similarities between

30:32

my mother in law who led me to Phran

30:34

and Bob and Phran are,

30:36

are really striking. So even

30:38

when my husband met, and my

30:41

mother in law also died of pancreatic cancer, same

30:43

age, 10 years, I know it's

30:45

just, but when I first met

30:47

and introduced my husband to Phran,

30:50

it was just. Years ago, my husband said

30:52

after we met, he said, does

30:54

she remind you of anyone? I was

30:56

like yes, your mom.

31:00

so, all connected. So I know

31:02

that they're also sort of helping on

31:04

the other side. I said, I didn't want to self

31:06

publish because I'm not really, I'm a numbers

31:08

person. I like the whole reading, writing thing.

31:10

It's not really my thing. I can't even believe I wrote a book,

31:12

but I read all those books. But

31:14

after I wrote the book, I sent

31:17

it to 30. Publishers and

31:19

publishing companies and 30 agents and

31:21

I was like, I'll see where it goes. I had 3,

31:24

1 agent and 2 publishers get back to me and say,

31:26

Oh, we, like your book. We'd like to represent you. And

31:29

then they gave me contracts and

31:31

I love contracts, I deal with contracts at work all

31:34

the time, but this was a little intimidating to

31:36

me because it's like your own property, proprietary,

31:38

I don't know. So I actually

31:40

hired someone who, I mentioned

31:43

my acknowledgements along with Phran Karen

31:45

Garvey, she's an intuitive person

31:47

on Long Island, and I hired

31:49

her to tap into my spirit

31:51

guides, since I'm not very

31:54

adept at that, and to ask

31:56

which of the three offers

31:58

I should go with. And so

32:00

she did that and she said, none of them you're supposed

32:02

to self publish. And I was like, really,

32:06

you know, I got to go through that whole thing. So

32:09

then I had to learn about publishing a book, which was.

32:12

A whole other McGilla, but

32:15

the way the universe works, the first copy

32:17

was printed on my mother in law's birthday. So

32:20

if I hadn't done that, it probably wouldn't have been

32:22

that way.

32:23

Oh, perfect.

32:25

Isn't it just so perfect?

32:27

Right. So anyway, yeah.

32:29

That's wonderful. Wow.

32:33

Well, for people that want to learn more about

32:35

you and want to check out your book, where

32:37

can they find you? So I have a, a

32:39

website. It's the annette marinaccio.

32:41

com. Also, my book is on Amazon

32:43

and Barnes and Noble and all that, but what I do

32:45

on my website is I post all

32:47

the interviews. And so

32:49

what I tell people too, is when

32:51

you look at the people who

32:53

are interviewing me like you, then

32:56

go to their. Site

32:59

and see the other people they've interviewed, because

33:01

if you want to experience

33:04

the metaphysical world

33:06

in a big way and really learn about it,

33:09

there's not only my half

33:11

hour or 1 hour interview, but the

33:14

host. Interviews people

33:16

from all, you know, whether it's a near death experience

33:19

or an outer body experience or

33:22

automatic writing it's infinite,

33:24

the amount of information that

33:27

you can gather. So I

33:29

right now if anybody asked me to do anything

33:31

for my book, I'm there. I'm like, no problem.

33:33

And so, and then I put it on that website and

33:35

it's a great wealth of information for

33:38

anybody that wants to learn about

33:40

metaphysical. And, and my book

33:42

is on there too. It's, also, an electronic

33:45

Kindle and audio, I

33:47

did an audio book too. I had

33:49

to learn that thing. I got it. I

33:52

hired a narrator oh yes. Yeah,

33:54

so I'm going to be tapping you for all

33:56

that information. Oh yeah, yeah,

33:59

when your book comes out, absolutely. It

34:01

was crazy. I mean, I always

34:03

said, again, I'm not a book person, but I always said

34:05

if I ever write another book, which I don't

34:07

intend to, because I put everything I need to in that one book.

34:10

It will be on how to write a book. That

34:14

was another unbelievable,

34:17

fascinating journey.

34:19

Yes, I'm sure. Well,

34:22

thank you so much for being here today and sharing

34:25

your journey and just everything

34:27

you discovered and everything that you're doing

34:29

now. I know it'll really resonate

34:31

with our listeners and I really

34:33

hope that it will encourage them to explore

34:36

the unseen world further and

34:39

really consider the other possibilities

34:42

and what we've discussed.

34:44

Yep. That's absolutely great. Thank

34:46

you so much for having me. It was a pleasure. Awesome.

34:49

Thank you. Annette.