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Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production

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of My Heart Radio Together

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Everything. So don Hello,

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my friends, my foes, Welcome

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back to the Worst Year Ever.

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Particularly hello to Katie's Pose,

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which is the

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number one listening to demographic for

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this podcast. I've done

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so many intros this year,

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this goddamn year, and I

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just mixed it up. Just let I opened

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my mouth when words came out, and you

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know what I do. Welcome my foes. I

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know either here, you know some of you hate

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me. That's fine. Now

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it's got too real. I'm

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Katie Stole and I'm joined as always

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by my

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friends and

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you and your foes. And

1:06

my last name is Johnson. I guess if we're doing that

1:08

that kind of thing, and

1:11

I Katie's foes. Yeah,

1:16

I I currently don't identify as

1:19

Katie's foe. But you know

1:21

that scene in The Lord of the Rings when

1:23

um, when Galadriel like goes

1:25

goes all nuts so on on Bilbo

1:28

and like talks about how she took the Yeah,

1:30

I'm I'm waiting for Katie to do that,

1:33

um, And at that point I will become Katie's

1:35

foe, um to save

1:38

the world from

1:40

from tyranny. And who knows maybe

1:42

that day is today. We'll find out it

1:45

might be. It could happen

1:47

at any second. We've all known happen in the beginning

1:49

of this could happen here. It could happen. It could

1:51

happen here in this podcast. You

1:54

know, I tuned on MSNBC briefly

1:57

at some point in the past. That was a mistake,

1:59

I know. But it had like a real big

2:03

chiron caption of it could happen

2:05

here, you sons of bitches,

2:08

sons of bitches. I took a picture

2:10

of it. It's floating around something so angry,

2:13

and all the people who are

2:15

worse than me talking about

2:17

how a civil war might happen now

2:19

as if just I'm just

2:23

you sons of bitches. Okay, okay,

2:26

I want er

2:33

my foes. Are any people who have just

2:36

started writing think pieces about a civil

2:38

war in the United States in the last two

2:40

months? Um? And are guys

2:43

are not thought like David from you

2:46

son of a bitch? Sorry from

2:49

Yeah, We're gonna talk about room later in this episode.

2:52

I'm just I'm just you know, I

2:54

had a great moment I do want to talk about because

2:56

I'm a narcissist. I was heading to

2:58

a protest on Friday night with a group

3:00

of about three or four Portlanders, all

3:04

armed with very large wooden shields,

3:06

who like marched off in military lines

3:08

and did battle. I thought I recognized

3:11

David Freum in that line of people with shields.

3:13

Yeah, yeah, he he he had a he had

3:15

a faushion in both hands, and was

3:18

was just just yeah, no, he

3:20

was not there. But as we're as

3:22

this like line of shield

3:26

bearing marchers was like heading

3:28

out like a Roman uh maniple

3:31

into battle this uh

3:34

and I'm like kind of walking alongside them.

3:36

He's like five four, I think four

3:38

or five kids, all in black. They looked like they

3:40

were like maybe in their late teens early

3:42

twenties and like completely blocked up

3:45

head to toe. Um, like

3:47

walk up to me, and this young woman or

3:49

maybe girl, I don't even know if she was of

3:52

adult age says to me, I just wanted you

3:54

to know that my affinity group and I all

3:56

listened to it could happen here last year.

3:59

Um, and it's like we've

4:02

completely based everything that we're doing now

4:04

around it as a result. And I was

4:06

like, I have no idea what you're going to do, probably

4:09

commit serious crimes tonight I'm

4:12

very proud of you, um, and

4:14

I hope that you don't get hurt. But

4:17

but also yeah, I don't know, weird

4:20

confinity group. An affinity

4:22

group is like your buddies. Basically,

4:24

it's a group of people with whom you share affinity.

4:27

I thought you said infinity. No,

4:30

like the protests in Portland, and as a general

4:32

rule, like any kind of sustained

4:35

illegalist like civil

4:37

action is kind of made up of a bunch

4:39

of different interlocking groups of people

4:41

who are all buds and want to do

4:43

the same kinds of ship. That

4:46

would be how I describe it. Well, I've already

4:48

learned something today. Anyway, Thank you

4:51

to the teenagers out there getting

4:53

horribly abused by

4:55

police. Uh well in the police

4:57

who are in their own affinity groups, right that they

5:00

are. They're in a very large affinity grouping

5:02

a cold one with the boys. The

5:05

cold one is the skull, right Katie.

5:08

You guys seen those really creepy

5:10

uh Blue Lives Matter

5:12

protesters that keep going to Beverly

5:14

Hills on Saturdays.

5:17

That is

5:20

different than the Is that the same

5:22

as the big MAGA protest

5:25

that happens in Beverly Hills every weekend? I

5:28

think there must be some cross sections. I

5:31

think it kind of feels like they're shipping

5:33

the main right now. That's kind of what it feels

5:35

like, Like they're not like they're like they're like

5:37

busting people and to make it look bigger than it

5:39

actually is. That makes sense.

5:43

Yeah, we had a big

5:45

rally of a significant number of people

5:47

in Portland this weekend from

5:49

weird Christian cult in reading that

5:52

I read in California

5:54

reading California, Yeah, they came up and

5:56

did like a big anti mask gathering,

5:58

which was illegal because you can't have outdoor

6:01

gatherings of more than fifty people, um,

6:04

unless there's like masks and social distancing,

6:06

and nobody was wearing masks at this thing.

6:08

Was cracking down on them,

6:10

No, of course not, of course,

6:13

maybe they've learned their lesson. Yes.

6:17

Yes. In other news, like the

6:19

same day they arrested, uh,

6:22

one of Jeremy Christian's early victims,

6:24

this young woman Dimitria Hester, who's been um

6:27

leading peaceful protests in town and

6:29

who was so like before Christians stabbed

6:31

two people to death on that Max train. He

6:34

assaulted her and she reported him to the police,

6:36

and they did not a goddamn thing Um,

6:39

and then they did not a goddamn thing because

6:41

you know, Jeremy Christian was just

6:44

um exercising his First Amendment rights.

6:46

And then they arrested Dimitria Hester for

6:48

exercising her first dominiment rights. Well,

6:51

you know, thank god we have police.

6:54

Second is the first right.

6:57

It's that's the order, that's that's

6:59

that's how we prosecute, that's how we arrest.

7:02

So I love prosecutions to today.

7:05

Uh yeah, it's a bit of a Hodgepodge

7:08

episode again because my god,

7:10

there's so much happening

7:12

all the time everywhere. Um.

7:15

But we wanted to start,

7:17

I think by talking about these

7:20

coronavirus relief executive

7:23

orders that Trump announced

7:25

last week. Um. And Cody

7:29

John Cody Cody Cody Johnson

7:32

prepared the words to

7:35

start that conversation and just for

7:37

like equality sick. What's up Cody's

7:39

foes? Oh

7:42

yeah, thank you very much. I mean,

7:44

we're equal opportunity here. I don't

7:47

I don't want any of my pose to think that

7:49

I was ignoring you. Um

7:53

more, I think it's more Cody's John John's

7:56

foes. No, that's my

7:59

Phody code, the photies,

8:03

photographies, photo

8:10

synthesis and

8:12

photo and so on. As rating

8:15

as this is a guy excited,

8:18

Let's just take a moment to appreciate what

8:20

good radio. This is just

8:23

amazing. Love

8:26

it. Um, are you guys excited about

8:28

the election and how we're

8:30

finally gonna we're gonna we're gonna flank the Dems

8:33

from the left. No, we're gonna like

8:35

Trump is gonna he's gonna become a leftist

8:37

hero and do a lot of He's

8:39

gonna help the people because he's the he's the

8:42

he's a fighter for the common

8:44

man, and the Dems are

8:46

are all corporatists, um and ineffectual

8:49

and uh, he's he's

8:52

the one that's gonna do it. I'm pumped for

8:54

this. Are you pumped? Um? Yeah?

8:56

So Um. Actually

8:58

my assessment of the Democrat it wasn't too

9:01

far off. But I have seen a lot of people

9:04

talk about how Trump is he's gonna like

9:07

he's gonna flank those damns from the left.

9:09

He's he's like he's more left than Pelosi.

9:12

Um. And I

9:15

mean it's non sending. This story come out

9:17

and it keeps not being it's

9:20

well, yeah, because he also it's still

9:22

not true. Um, because he he will he

9:24

will say things uh vaguely

9:27

like, oh, I'm gonna take care of U, I'm

9:29

gonna halt evictions, I'm gonna do this and this

9:31

and this UM

9:33

because the Democrats

9:35

aren't uh necessarily doing

9:37

um enough or offering

9:40

enough to people during this pandemic. But

9:43

that doesn't mean that Donald fucking

9:45

Trump is going to UM.

9:47

It might mean that he will say

9:50

that he will UM. And I've talked about

9:52

this for like a year and now certainly will be

9:54

that he'll say one thing that's not true,

9:57

right, And I've talked about like for a long time,

10:00

how like he will probably uh

10:02

slowly get on board with the

10:05

language of somebody who wants

10:07

like Medicare for all, like universal health care

10:10

and that kind of thing. UM. But it's gonna be UM

10:12

exclusionary, and it's gonna be bad UM

10:14

and it's gonna hurt people ultimately because

10:16

that's what he does. That's the whole thing, that's his whole

10:19

that's the whole deal. Where basically both

10:21

you and Robert are prophets. I get

10:23

it. Sorry, you're

10:26

smart all to all the foes out

10:28

there. Um, are you a foe

10:30

of the pod? Now? I don't know, Katie

10:34

Stiff foe, Katie, Katie,

10:36

foe, Katie.

10:39

You know, when we talk about

10:41

the crimes of capitalism, one of them should

10:43

be listed the fact that I I did just

10:45

get paid to make that joke. Can

10:48

I have it your money? Okay? No,

10:51

no, of course, not that's fair. Um.

10:53

So Trump, amidst all

10:56

of these announcements like yeah,

10:58

I'll I'll save the word,

11:00

I'll do this, I'll do whatever, he signed

11:03

for executive orders uh and memorandum

11:07

that, um, we're designed

11:09

to give the illusion and the aesthetic

11:12

that he is helping people, and he's just

11:14

pretty much not really. One

11:17

of them was about unemployment benefits.

11:20

He is offering

11:23

four dollars um, which is two hundred

11:25

dollars less than what the Democrats

11:27

have tried to get for

11:29

people and have had. Um.

11:31

So it's I'm not like a numbers

11:34

guy. Um you know, um he must

11:38

well I was. I was gonna say, it's less four

11:40

d seems less than six hund right, I mean it seems

11:42

less than six to me. But

11:44

but again, not a numbers guy, just sort of a

11:47

general guess. And so not

11:49

only is this less than what

11:52

people need right now, and um,

11:54

not actually really helpful.

11:57

I mean it's more helpful than nothing. So there you go.

12:00

Um. Well, one of the one of these is getting his money is

12:02

um forty four billion dollars

12:04

from the disaster Relief Fund, which

12:07

I don't know if anyone has been paying attention

12:09

to. Again, UM, forty

12:11

four billion dollars, Well, that's

12:14

not much money. It's not much

12:16

money. That's just think that's just

12:18

forty four billion dollar yachts.

12:21

Cody exact, fifty

12:23

billion dollar yachts. Yeah.

12:25

I was ready to dismiss whatever you had to say,

12:27

but that's a fair point. Yeah.

12:30

It's called perspective, and I've lost mine,

12:32

so I thank you for that. He's basically

12:35

basically taking money from yachts,

12:39

because if if an amount is the same as an

12:41

amount you'd pay for something else, you're actually

12:43

taking it from the other thing. Anyway,

12:45

forty four billion dollars from the disaster Relief Fund

12:48

halfway through the year. Um,

12:50

when I don't know if you if anyone's familiar

12:52

with like hurricanes that we have got quite a

12:54

bit. Um Yeah, yeah, I

12:56

mean I had a couple of hurricanes when I was in

12:58

New Orleans earlier year. We

13:01

are indeed in hurricane season.

13:04

Yeah, I mean it's never not hurricane season.

13:06

Um, hurricane is somewhere.

13:09

Yeah, what would be the problem with hurricanes, Cody,

13:11

Is there some downside? Well?

13:13

I feel like maybe some homes and things

13:16

get destroyed and people potentially

13:18

getting all. Right, Well, I vomited a lot in that lady's

13:21

house, but I wouldn't say it was destroyed. I mean,

13:23

she can replace the carpet, Okay,

13:26

okay, well, because

13:29

she's not going to get that billion dollars from the

13:32

billion dollars cut from disaster relief fund to

13:35

fix the carpet that you threw up on. I

13:39

never heard anyby describe their vomit as

13:41

a hurricane, but it was. I

13:43

mean, the vomit was made of hurricanes.

13:46

That's what that song is about, right, Is that like some

13:49

mixed drink com Portland. No, no, no,

13:51

no, that's New Orleans. That's like the

13:55

throwing up you all know the song.

13:57

Yeah. If you go to back when New Orleans hadn't

13:59

been wiped doubt by a plague, there

14:02

would be like tons of terrible bars with

14:04

the same awful hurricane slushies that you

14:06

could buy for too much money. Um,

14:08

and then step in the vomit of a frat

14:10

boy who was puking off of a balcony,

14:12

and it was America's greatest city for a time

14:15

before the plague. Heck, yes,

14:20

I could go for some freight alligator. I

14:24

know, I know, I know, Please

14:27

continue, sorry signal

14:31

um. So it's

14:35

just, um,

14:37

it just seems like maybe a bad place to get this money,

14:39

um for a thing. Um. Also as

14:42

uh, we'll talk about a little bit. Um.

14:45

It's technically not he's not allowed to do

14:47

that because Congress controls like the

14:50

purse strings, and

14:53

so there's various talk of whether or not

14:55

it's even legal to do this, although

14:58

again, like if you talk to let's

15:00

say, the the Senate Minority

15:02

leader or the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi,

15:05

they'll say it's illegal, but like

15:07

who knows. Pelosi referred

15:10

to to these orders as absurdly

15:12

unconstitutional and then following

15:14

it up by saying, well, the fact

15:16

is is that whether they're legal or not takes

15:19

time to figure out. So very

15:21

us there. Um

15:24

and Chuck Schumer said, dancing Nancy

15:28

dancing or dancing around it un

15:30

Chuck Sjor said, I will leave that up to the

15:32

attorneys to decide whether it's unconstitution

15:38

m Nancy Potosi and

15:40

uh, Chuck Schumer was never a practicing

15:43

lawyer, but he did pass the bar and then get into

15:45

politics. Forty eight senators

15:48

current senators used to be lawyers. So

15:50

when Chuck Schumer says, I will

15:52

leave that up to the attorney, that's a different problem.

15:54

But this

15:58

idea of like, well, you know, it's the

16:00

legal question, leave it up to them, it's like, well, that's

16:02

your isn't that part of your job? Guys?

16:06

Fair point frustrating

16:08

point frustrating also, so a

16:10

lot of this. So this executive order also

16:13

it puts a um, a bit of

16:15

a pause on the payroll tax

16:17

here. First one as a payroll tax holiday.

16:20

One bit of relief is

16:23

to defer payroll tax for

16:25

a few months until December, UM,

16:29

thus solving the problem forever. Thus

16:31

solving the problem forever. You would still

16:33

have to pay this, UM, it would just defer it.

16:36

It's a deferral down the line. Yeah.

16:40

Yeah, when those yeah, based

16:42

on the fact that March hasn't ended yet, we're

16:45

probably never going to get to December again. So

16:47

yeah, take a good deal to me. Really

16:50

really long months. We should just call this podcast

16:52

the worst month ever, and it's twelve months

16:54

long. The bad show, the

16:56

real bad March. It was a real bad

16:59

March for a year. Al

17:03

Right, Well, we're done for the day and

17:07

show. I

17:09

understand the peril tax also

17:12

fund Social Security and Medicare. And this

17:14

is the real thing we got to get get

17:16

down to because, uh,

17:18

as I mentioned earlier, anytime Trump

17:21

like has the the aesthetic

17:23

of like, oh there he's flanking the

17:25

Dems, he does not. He

17:27

doesn't want to. He's not trying

17:29

to. That's not what he's doing.

17:33

He is gutting like all

17:35

of the safety nets and like the

17:37

things that we need in the in the country to help

17:40

people in order to present this thing.

17:42

Um. And so he's also destroying

17:45

the one part of the government that

17:47

like every person who's

17:50

not a howling monster

17:52

likes, Like the post

17:54

office is good. Every

17:58

buddy, love freebody

18:00

loves the post Office. It's got

18:02

like the highest approval. It has

18:05

literally the highest of all of them. It is nonsense.

18:08

They do an absolutely crucial job

18:10

very well. Everyone who has

18:12

Medicare is like, I love having

18:14

Medicare. I'm so grateful that I have

18:17

Medicare now. Um.

18:19

And so he's trying to gut all of these things

18:23

and present it as though he's helping

18:25

us and he's not. And I

18:27

just really hope that also

18:30

say something

18:32

about pre existing conditions aren't going

18:34

to affect your healthcare

18:36

enrollment when that is the whole thing

18:39

with Obamacare. Yeah,

18:41

it's nonsense. Um, he has said that he

18:43

will do something about pre existing

18:45

conditions. He's currently suing too. Do

18:49

not include that partner Obamacare. It's an Obamacare.

18:51

He's trying to get rid of it, and he's saying that he's gonna

18:54

not get not do it. It's he's

18:56

uh why, he's a wild fellow.

18:58

We love him, don't we, folks. We

19:01

do. So he's all he's all over the place and

19:04

doing this kind of stuff and uh

19:07

when he's even when he's asked if he's going to get

19:09

sued, his response was, well, you always get sued.

19:11

Everything you do, you get sued. And my response to that

19:13

is, no, everything you do. If

19:17

that that is a thing that happens

19:20

in your life, maybe

19:23

it's not. Maybe it's not everybody

19:25

else. Maybe it's not in everybody else problem.

19:27

Buddy. It reminds me of I was in jury

19:30

duty at the beginning of this year. Do you guys remember

19:32

that I cannot Yeah,

19:36

back when jury's existed. What a day.

19:40

I mean, it's remarkable that I ended up on a case

19:42

that happened to be about a building I used

19:44

to live in. But that inside that

19:46

is very funny. It's wild. Um,

19:49

the guy the landlord had

19:52

had like ninety

19:55

lawsuits or something. Wild is

19:57

like the same thing. Sc

20:00

me rich real estate mogul gets

20:02

sued for everything and

20:05

uh doesn't sweat it. You get sued for everything.

20:07

Sorry, beside the point just relating

20:09

it to my life. I mean, it's

20:12

true that sounds like everyone

20:15

but him. Problem. Um,

20:19

I think it's time for us to take an ad break real

20:21

quick. Is that true, Sophie? Can you

20:23

confirm or deny? I don't know what it

20:25

is or where I am. We're going to take

20:27

a quick ad break, and then

20:29

we're going to come back from more of this together

20:40

everything don't don't

20:43

and we are back as promised

20:45

from that ad break

20:50

from I'm killing my intros and transitions today.

20:53

I'm proud of you, Katie. Thanks

20:56

so Cody, please

20:58

please please continue talking to us

21:01

about this monster president. Please. I

21:03

can't wait. I love him. He's really good. Yeah.

21:06

So we just talked about his Uh, he's

21:09

proudly announcing quote,

21:11

I'll be pursuing a major executive order

21:13

requiring health insurance companies to cover pre

21:15

existing conditions for all of its customers.

21:18

Um. So thanks Obama.

21:22

Yeah. So that's just one of his

21:25

executive orders about the

21:27

parill tax. He's also another

21:29

thing about this, aside from the

21:31

fact that the parill tax uh helps pay for Social

21:33

Security and Medicare programs that people

21:36

need. And also like he

21:38

has said that

21:41

in seeking re election, he will move

21:43

to get rid of the payroll tax. Um,

21:46

Like this is part of his plan. Um

21:48

he It's not like, oh, I'm gonna do this

21:50

for this executive order, like that is a

21:53

goal of his, which seems

21:55

like the opposite of him saying uh that he

21:57

would never cut Social Security or

21:59

medic Care, which is clearly actively

22:02

trying to do so. I guess

22:04

my point with this one is just, Um,

22:07

anytime you see someone UH

22:11

say that you know Trump is flanking the Dems from

22:13

the left, tell them he's

22:15

not. Like you

22:18

can criticize. You can criticize Democrats

22:21

for not doing enough and not fighting hard

22:23

enough and for being like, let's let the lawyers

22:25

like all the stuff that they do. You can do

22:27

that without pretending

22:30

that Trump's fascism, which is what

22:32

it is, is good. He's going to have

22:34

the aesthetics of leftism as much

22:36

as he can without actually doing anything because he's

22:38

a fascist. That's his fucking game.

22:41

No, no cody for he's gonna

22:44

give people six dollars a month. Again, that's

22:46

he's flanking the Dems from the left.

22:49

I think the problem is is definitely and how

22:51

we talk about it like it's easy.

22:53

I mean, you can say anything

22:55

with authority, and it starts to take hold.

22:58

Um And and

23:00

if people say he's flanking

23:03

the Dems from the left, he's say, no, that's

23:05

quite literally not what he's doing at all.

23:08

That's what he wants it to look like. He

23:10

wants to appeal to things that, um,

23:14

you know, just to people that might

23:17

not expect it from him, or to show his

23:19

base like look, we're doing

23:21

this innovative thing. The things that they would you

23:24

know, out hand dismiss coming from

23:26

a liberal just

23:29

like yeah, it's like for you, it's saying that

23:31

like for years we've known everybody,

23:33

everybody knows this. Oh yeah, he's he's

23:35

a fraud and like a

23:37

right wing faux populist demagogue.

23:40

That's what he does. So anytime you

23:42

say that he's doing this from the left, you

23:44

are getting duped. You are being duped

23:47

right now, or you're like doing

23:49

on a purpose, you're like lying on purpose.

23:51

I don't know. Um, but yeah, there's

23:53

a better way to talk about it, in a better way to point out

23:55

he is clearly a

23:58

liar. Um. Even like

24:00

a few like a week ago, he was there's

24:03

announcement like I'm gonna canceling evictions,

24:05

getting rid of all evictions. Um, something

24:08

Congress has has tried to do and

24:11

to do briefly. Um, the deadline is over for

24:13

that. But um, everyone's like, oh, look he's

24:15

doing it again. He's getting the damns doing

24:18

what they do. No, he didn't do that, he didn't.

24:20

He didn't cancel evictions.

24:22

He And I'm gonna quote, I'm gonna quote

24:24

from this. The actual thing

24:27

says the Secretary

24:29

of Health and Human Services and

24:31

the Director of CDC shall consider

24:34

whether any measures temporarily halting

24:36

residential evictions of any tenants

24:39

for failure to pay rent are reasonably

24:41

necessary to prevent the further spread of COVID

24:43

nineteen from one state or possession into

24:46

any other state or possession. So

24:49

he said he's looking

24:51

into it. He's

24:54

like the actual order the memo

24:57

is saying that he will consider he will

24:59

have people can sitter, whether or not it's

25:01

worth looking into. It's nonsense,

25:04

He's not. He's a nonsense

25:06

person. Um

25:08

And Like, I don't know, we don't need to spend too

25:11

much time on these, because I do think it's just important

25:13

to recognize that, like it is an aesthetic

25:15

thing. It's this illusion that he's

25:17

helping people and like flanking

25:20

the damns when like he

25:22

could easily uh

25:25

push the Republican Party

25:28

to agree to the bill that

25:31

the Democrats have written. Um

25:33

Ed Markey Ed Markey

25:36

um Foe of

25:39

the Kennedy's earlier

25:41

today tweeted about a like he has this

25:43

written. UM, give every

25:45

person in our country two thousand dollars a month

25:47

for the duration of the pandemic, two thousand

25:50

dollars a month or three months after that, and two thousand dollars

25:52

a month retroactive to March, to

25:54

which Ted Cruz replied, why

25:57

be so cheap? Give everyone one

25:59

million dollar dollars a day, every day forever

26:02

and three soy lattes a day and

26:04

a foot massage. We have a magic money

26:06

tree and we should use it. One thing

26:08

Trump could do if he was really wanted to flank the

26:10

Dems is tell Ted Cruise to shut

26:13

the funk up about soy

26:15

latte and give people money so

26:17

they can survive this pandemic. Doesn't

26:21

like over and O's

26:23

gonna say, so,

26:25

I don't know. I I wanna just

26:28

drive down. You know. What I really want, Katie

26:31

is to is to take a nice chill

26:33

drive and like in a convertible

26:36

down the Pacific Coastal Highway, listening

26:38

to the the the fat

26:40

beats of Ben Shapiro saying

26:43

wet ass P word over and

26:45

over again. Yeah, that's what I mean. Hey, hey,

26:47

hey, where

26:49

is not heard? Radio show? We try to get it's W

26:53

word A word, P word. Okay,

26:55

thank you. That dream can be a reality,

26:58

Robert, Yeah, you can one to your

27:00

poignant points. Well,

27:04

okay, I mean it's just like it's just it's

27:06

just more nonsense and like he sucks.

27:09

Get him out, get rid of him, and then tell

27:12

the Democrats to go fund themselves. Um

27:14

but too so real quick to ed Markey's

27:17

credit again, foe of the Kennedy's. As

27:20

we all know, people who want

27:22

medicare for all on the Green New Deal are

27:25

real, staunch enemies of the Kennedy's one

27:27

assassinated him. And here we have um

27:30

Ed Markey, who responded to Ted by saying,

27:33

it's not a goddamn joke. Ted,

27:36

millions of families are facing hunger,

27:38

the threat of eviction, and the loss of their healthcare

27:41

during a pandemic that is worsening every

27:43

day. Get real, because

27:46

Ed Markey rules and Ted Cruz is a

27:48

fucking clown piece of garbage.

27:51

Um, he's such a weird online freak.

27:53

It's so bizarre. Soy lattes?

27:55

Is it? Ted? Are you like on

27:58

the Daily Wires Reddit? Like?

28:00

What are you doing? It's I I'm

28:04

I'm malfunctioning. I am sorry.

28:06

I'll just remind you that you are talking about

28:09

the executive orders.

28:14

I was just trying to help. It's

28:16

okay.

28:20

I know. I was going to say, really, I'm

28:22

becoming a photy for showdy God.

28:25

Yeah, Katie's

28:28

it's not great, Sophie. I'm right there with you,

28:31

but I started it, so I have to confess.

28:35

I don't know. I think they're gonna love it. Um,

28:40

Um, yeah, he's also deferring

28:43

student loan uh payments.

28:46

Um cool but

28:49

not really. Yeah, so

28:52

like have you run

28:54

out of steam? End of the end of story.

28:57

End of story. I just uh,

29:01

he sucks so bad, and like that sucks. Um,

29:05

like everyone's such a liar. It's so frustrating

29:08

and it

29:12

is. It is also frustrating, especially since

29:14

this this whole time,

29:17

he's done such a fucking bad, bad,

29:19

abysmal job of handling everything.

29:22

But specifically we're talking

29:24

about a coronavirus relief package

29:27

and about the coronavirus.

29:29

You know, the US now has over

29:31

five million cases and

29:34

a hundred sixty three thousand people

29:36

dead. That's the official number as of today, but

29:39

that is not the actual number. I just

29:41

always have to say that caveat whenever I give

29:43

number updates. Um.

29:46

I wanted to just give

29:48

some some school reopening

29:51

updates because uh, that

29:53

is a very big thing right now

29:56

on everybody's mind with COVID

29:59

and everybody, everybody

30:01

but Betsy Divas, everybody

30:03

that Betsy Divace. Yes, absolutely,

30:06

I have heard. It's

30:09

already started, guys. The reopenings

30:12

have started after a single week

30:14

of school, more than two hundred

30:17

and fifty students

30:19

and teachers from one Georgia school

30:21

district learned a lot and are

30:23

grateful for the education. Yeah uh,

30:26

no, wrong, maybe they learned something,

30:28

but they've been asked to quarantine for two weeks

30:30

after several teachers and students tested

30:32

positive or COVID nineteen again

30:35

one school district after one

30:38

week back. Um. This is from USA

30:40

Today and a letter to families on

30:42

Friday, Superintendent Brian high Tower said

30:45

that the trend of students and staff testing

30:47

positive every day will continue

30:50

as we operate schools during a pandemic.

30:52

We know under a microscope as naturally as

30:55

national media follows the reopening of schools

30:57

across the country, he wrote, but know

30:59

that our destity are not based on what people

31:01

in New York or Kansas think, nor

31:03

are we concerned about optics or

31:05

image. We're focused on doing

31:07

what's best for our community.

31:11

New York like that. I know, apparently

31:15

it is. What's best for the community

31:17

is letting your kids get sick and maybe

31:19

die and bringing the virus home to your

31:21

families who also might get sick and I um

31:24

cool. But um, Trump

31:27

and his administration are

31:30

continuing to push the narrative that kids are suffering

31:33

suffering from being isolated at home. Uh,

31:36

instead of you know, people suffering because

31:38

of coronavirus. And you know, that makes perfect sense

31:41

to me because you know, Trump has always been really compassionate

31:43

about the psychological effects

31:45

of kids being locked up. You know.

31:47

Oh yeah, he

31:50

cares about. It's a joke because

31:53

it's what they say about Trump and

31:56

his presidency. The compassion is the point.

31:59

The compassion and is the point. Um.

32:01

He also recently claimed on Fox

32:03

News that kids are virtually immune

32:06

to COVID nineteen. Uh.

32:10

Yeah, I'm gonna give you guys this disturbing

32:13

fact. According to a report

32:16

from the American Academy of Pediatrics,

32:18

over ninety seven thousand children

32:21

tested positive for coronavirus in the United

32:23

States just between July six

32:26

and jud

32:30

And while yes, it is less likely for kids

32:32

to die from the virus, uh, it's

32:34

not impossible. In a new study from

32:36

the CDC suggests that one third of

32:38

children who are hospitalized

32:40

with COVID nineteen end up in intensive

32:43

care. And look, at the beginning of

32:46

this, we'd all hoped or thought

32:48

that for some reason, the virus wouldn't affect

32:50

kids. There was a lot of misinformation there

32:52

still is. We're still learning stuff. And

32:54

yeah, it's risk is for people over the age

32:56

of sixty. UM,

32:59

But it doesn't canon does affect children. Um.

33:01

And they are apparently likely to be

33:04

high spreaders because the symptoms may not

33:06

show up in them. Um. But

33:08

you would still bring the virus home to

33:11

potentially vulnerable members of your family

33:13

in the community. UM. And you mentioned kids

33:16

don't live with adults though, so like,

33:18

what's the like, what's the problem?

33:21

Put them in out, you put a minute, you put them all together

33:23

in a big rule and then they stay there. They don't

33:25

go anywhere afterwards. I

33:27

mean, I will just say that if people

33:30

had taken the advice I've been giving

33:32

for years, which is that we wall

33:34

off all of the states in the middle

33:36

of the country outside of the coast, force

33:39

the adults out, and make them a giant, open air

33:41

child prison for all of the miners

33:44

in the country. If we've done

33:46

that, this whole coronavirus thing would

33:48

no longer be a problem. Yeah.

33:50

I think elements of any United

33:52

States government needs to watch a little movie called

33:54

House Arrest. Um.

33:59

Betsy Devaz, like you mentioned earlier,

34:01

Sophie waived all

34:03

of this away by basically saying

34:05

that there's risk involved with everything. Uh.

34:08

Quote, risk

34:12

is embedded in everything we

34:14

do, learning to ride a bike

34:17

to the risk of getting in a space capsule

34:19

and getting shot shot off in a rocket into

34:21

space. What

34:24

what what

34:26

the fund does that have to do with teachers

34:28

and schools and principles and children

34:31

and families and corona. Well, Sophie,

34:33

because if a kid falls off a bike,

34:35

If a kid falls off a bike, it's

34:38

just as likely to kill grandma, you

34:41

know, Jesus see yeah,

34:43

yeah, You're so sorry, Katie. I've

34:47

made a compelling point. Mon.

34:50

Yeah, but you know it

34:52

sucks. Officials have been pushing

34:54

the administration to, you know, get serious,

34:56

to start warning parents in school districts

34:59

about you know, the risk of reopening

35:01

schools right now. Um,

35:04

but I guess they don't want to do that. Administration

35:09

has said that they should instead focus on

35:11

bolstering the president's response

35:13

plan, uh, which

35:16

he doesn't have one of anyway.

35:20

This is all fun and good. This

35:22

is all fun and good. Uh. And before

35:24

we go to another ad break, UH just

35:26

wanna follow up with um

35:29

the United States Postal Service stuff. We talked

35:31

about it a little bit last week. Uh,

35:34

but Shockingly, the situation

35:36

has gotten worse in between.

35:39

Um.

35:41

Now, not only is the Post Office considering

35:43

closing locations throughout the country,

35:46

but on Friday, Louis to Joy,

35:49

new Postmaster General, republican

35:51

mega donor and businessman with

35:53

investments in USPS competitors,

35:56

announced some big shakeups. This

35:58

is from Fast Times. Changes

36:00

were announced Friday by Postmaster General

36:03

Lewis de Joy and radically alter the leadership

36:05

structure of the USPS. The reorganization

36:07

will see twenty three major executives

36:10

at the Postal Service resign or

36:12

displaced, including, as a business

36:14

insider points out, to exects

36:16

who oversee critical day to day

36:19

operations. Um,

36:21

he's claiming that the yeah, go ahead, Oh

36:24

no, no, look, police continue. I

36:26

was just gonna say that, you know. He claims

36:28

that this is going to allow the Postal Service to

36:30

reduce costs and capture new revenue.

36:32

But critics are are pointing

36:35

out that the Postal Services a

36:37

for profit business. Um,

36:40

you know, and and uh,

36:42

the leadership changes are very alarming

36:46

for everybody right now, and it's going to have

36:48

it could have severe consequences, not

36:50

just in terms of vote by

36:53

mail, but for people, for workers,

36:55

for seniors for voters, um,

36:58

all of it. You know, people get their med dication

37:01

through the postal service.

37:03

Okay, So Katie, I'm I'm

37:05

a physically healthy white man

37:07

with no outstanding medical issues,

37:10

whose main use of post

37:12

of any kind is having FedEx sent me various

37:15

quasi legal narcotics. I

37:17

don't understand why we need a postal service.

37:19

Uh. And I'm not willing to listen to any of

37:21

your answers. UM. And I'm just the

37:23

podcast mail through the post

37:26

to service. Robert come back. Okay, Well he's strictly

37:28

in the faux camp now, yeah, it's

37:30

ah. The attack on the post

37:33

office UM should be a story

37:35

every day because it's an attack on our

37:37

democracy. UM. And

37:40

it's an incredibly valuable service. Even UM

37:43

articles who think they're helping.

37:46

We'll run things like, well the post office

37:48

didn't make a profit this year or whatever. It's like, well

37:50

it's not supposed to, so shut the funk

37:52

up, UM, please stop.

37:55

Please, we do have to go for an ad break,

37:57

but before we do, I just want to say,

37:59

outside of mailing in your mail in ballots immediately

38:02

when you get them, uh, maybe

38:04

write letters and buy stamps and send people nice

38:06

notes that's something that we can do that

38:08

might uh not save the post

38:10

office, but is a kind thing to do and

38:12

at least shows support. Also, they have a gift

38:14

shop with like weird toys

38:17

and kids costumes and a

38:19

crop top that's kind of cute and sold out really

38:21

quickly. But you know, to

38:23

take power into your own hands. And

38:25

on that note, listen to these

38:28

ads

38:33

together everything

38:40

we're back. I I

38:42

just came back because while I was

38:44

leaving in rage that anybody would

38:46

use my precious tax dollars to ensure

38:49

that old people can get mail, I watched

38:51

the Kevin Costner movie The Postman,

38:54

uh, and I've realized that I was wrong. Um

38:56

and yeah, the only two things

38:59

that can save us from annihilation are

39:01

the US Postal Service and Kevin Costner.

39:04

So I'm back on board.

39:06

That was going to make Kevin Costner president,

39:09

Right, that's the point everybody's arguing,

39:11

that's where we all are. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't

39:13

know, Like it's it's weird that you even bring it up.

39:15

It like it seems repetitive every

39:18

day every day has Kevin

39:20

Costner played the president? Because I think he has

39:23

probably he must have who wouldn't vote. I'd

39:26

vote for him playing the president in a movie. Yeah,

39:28

absolutely, I would vote for him being

39:30

the president and also the vice president.

39:33

And why not consolidate the job

39:36

cuts. Let's do it. Yeah

39:39

yeah, and maybe like um Supreme

39:41

Court to fuck it. Kevin Costner

39:43

is not Uh. I don't think he's played a president.

39:45

He's played a commander in the Jack Ryan series.

39:48

And he enjoyed that judge for president.

39:51

I forgot about that ship. Oh

39:54

he did, huh that See, this

39:56

is why the Post Office needs to be defunded.

39:59

Because Kevin cost Ner endorsed

40:01

Pete bo I'm back back

40:03

against Yeah.

40:05

Well it's really been a whirlwind for me. Speaking

40:08

of whirlwinds, the elections

40:10

coming up in November, and

40:13

it's everyone agrees it's going to be terrible.

40:16

And by everyone, I mean all

40:18

of the people with fancy

40:20

titles and um and fancy jobs

40:22

who work at places like the Atlantic

40:25

uh and places like the Defense

40:27

Department, who are just now being like,

40:30

oh my god, we could have a

40:32

civil war in this country. It could

40:34

happen here. They're starting to say,

40:37

these these these geniuses, these

40:39

brilliant thinkers

40:41

who are are on the beating pulse of America

40:43

and realized as soon as the problem hit, what

40:46

what could happen here? Here?

40:50

Yeah, it could happen here and

40:52

the worst year ever. So it's time

40:54

to look behind the bastards and

41:00

these these these modern

41:03

day Cassandras have

41:05

formed a group called the Transition Integrity

41:08

Project, which is

41:11

basically it was organized by someone named Rosa Brooks,

41:13

who is a Georgetown law professor in a former Defense

41:15

Department official. Um, she's one of the people

41:17

who like founded it, and they

41:19

just did basically a big role playing game

41:21

with a bunch of fancy

41:24

people, um, including David Froome

41:26

who was there, uh, and wrote an article

41:29

about it for The Atlantic, And I

41:31

will be quoting from This is the only time I'm ever going

41:33

to quote from a David Frum article on this

41:35

podcast and not be just

41:37

insulting David Froome, because Froome was actually

41:40

at this thing. Um. But it it made the

41:42

news last week because um, it

41:44

was like, you know, the gist of this, as

41:46

it was reported on was that like a

41:48

bunch of Republicans and Democrats

41:51

war gamed out what might happen in

41:53

the election and it's

41:55

gonna be bad. Uh, Like we're not gonna

41:57

know what happens on election night, and almost

42:00

all of the outcomes are terrible

42:02

in some way. Um, the only one

42:04

that has a reasonable chance of not being

42:06

terrible out the gate is like a massive and

42:08

overwhelming Joe Biden victory, right

42:11

Like, if that, if that happens, most people agree,

42:13

Okay, Trump will probably like

42:16

more or less, let things happen the

42:18

way they're supposed to. Um,

42:20

but anything less than an overwhelming

42:22

Biden victory is going

42:24

to be some sort of fucking nightmare. And there's

42:26

a decent chance that Joe Biden overwhelming victory

42:28

would be a night there too. But anyway, that was

42:30

the that was the that was the story

42:33

as it came out, And if you actually like read into

42:35

any of these articles, they are there's a

42:37

reason I keep referencing my podcast. It could

42:39

happen here because they're all talking about the stuff

42:41

that we talked about, and it could happen here. UM.

42:43

I do want to know one thing for people

42:46

like Cody who are are the same

42:48

kind of nerd I am. This was a D ten

42:50

based role playing system

42:52

that they used, Like yeah,

42:55

I know they used a bunch of D It was all D ten. Yeah,

42:58

yeah, no, but they did like to randomize as

43:00

the results of certain actions that different groups

43:02

would take, and they had like basically

43:04

like you had people, you had people

43:06

who had like done jobs in

43:08

the real world, kind of gaming

43:11

out that same job being done

43:13

by someone else in this situation. So you

43:15

had, for example, they brought in like media

43:18

TV anchors and stuff or whatever, like people like

43:20

like media personalities to act

43:22

as the media and like like respond

43:25

the way they think the media would. You know, yeah,

43:27

done jobs and dragons right, So yeah,

43:30

exactly, God, that

43:37

is that is pretty good. So Rosa

43:39

Brooks, who is again one of the people who organize

43:41

this group in the first place, UM kind of summarized

43:44

these things summarized the results

43:46

of this game by saying all of our

43:48

scenarios ended in both street level violence

43:50

and political impast

43:54

The law is essentially it's almost

43:56

helpless against the president who's willing to ignore

43:58

it. So that's good. Sounds

44:01

awesome that

44:04

for it could happen.

44:07

Hearing, thank god, I now

44:09

have my body weight in gas

44:11

mask filters, which is a normal

44:13

thing for a person to have next to his pile

44:16

of AMMO that weighs as much as a small car.

44:18

Um. Things are good in America

44:21

today herd

44:24

degree, thank you. Um,

44:27

so, yeah, it's not

44:30

not great. Niles Gillman, who's

44:32

a historian who leads research at a think tank

44:35

called the Burgruin Institute, which I'm sure

44:37

is a shitty think tank because they all are

44:40

another tank because it's the think tank.

44:42

But he was one of the organizers of the of the exercise,

44:44

and he stated he doesn't have to win the election, he

44:46

just has to create a plausible narrative that he didn't

44:49

lose. Um, which

44:51

is I think, um, very

44:53

true and relatively obvious. Yeah

44:55

it is. But it's like that's that's all you have to argue,

44:57

is you have to like make it be if they if

45:00

it's a question, um,

45:02

like okay. So one of the most basic rules of

45:04

productive argument is that the burden of

45:06

proof is um on on

45:08

the person trying to claim that something

45:11

is occurring, not like right,

45:14

um. And that's the opposite

45:16

of how things work in politics because

45:18

at one of the points they make, yeah exactly is that

45:20

like Joe Biden, essentially Trump

45:22

has the ability to try to force Joe Biden

45:25

to prove that the election was legitimate. It's

45:28

yeah, it's not gonna be great. Yeah,

45:31

I think that makes it sound like we're doomed.

45:35

You know, we're not

45:37

doomed, but the thing that

45:39

will undoom us looks a

45:41

lot like I don't know what's happening

45:43

in Belarus right now, where tens of thousands

45:45

of people are throwing

45:48

like Molotov cocktails

45:50

by the thousand at secure. Anyway,

45:53

I'm just going to read a quote from a Boston globe right

45:55

up of this thing, um, and it's talking about

45:58

one of the founders of this this

46:00

thing. Brooks got the seed of the idea

46:02

for the Transition Integrity Project after a dinner

46:04

where the where a federal judge and a corporate lawyer

46:06

each told her they were convinced the military or the Secret

46:09

Service would have to escort Trump out of office if

46:11

he lost the election. Would not concede. Brooks

46:13

wasn't so sure. She and Gilman decided to

46:15

turn the Washington parlor game into an actual exercise.

46:18

So, UM,

46:21

that's that's interesting to me. Um

46:23

Number one, that like the

46:26

class of people who are involved in a project

46:29

like this are so separated

46:31

from reality that normally anything

46:33

they do is um

46:36

an exercise in in pure

46:39

fantasy. And the fact that

46:41

one of these people in in this conversation

46:44

that she's talking about, like this judge and this lawyer

46:46

are both um, I think kind of

46:49

yielding to fantasy that like the

46:51

thing that you would expect to happen based on

46:53

the letter of the law will happen, because that's the thing

46:55

that matters anymore. Um. But there

46:57

were enough people within

46:59

the kind of completely detached political

47:02

class who were like, no, actually, he

47:04

might just take power. Um that

47:06

they actually took it seriously and

47:09

like did a thing about it. And I think

47:11

that's you could see it might be a good sign

47:14

that, like things have gotten bad enough

47:16

that some members of our famously disconnected

47:18

political class are actually not

47:21

wrong about the things that they're saying for the

47:23

first time in any of our lifetimes. UM.

47:25

I find it unsettling. I find it deeply

47:27

unsettling. Part of what my initial

47:29

reaction to hear just talking

47:32

about this is like, yeah,

47:34

you know, that's good people

47:37

acknowledging stuff. If people had

47:40

covered this differently, if people had

47:42

talked about this differently years ago,

47:45

maybe the situation would be different. I

47:47

don't know. Yeah, we can't

47:49

think about the past. Okay,

47:52

No, that's my motto. You've

47:55

always said that the

47:58

past. Yeah, yeah, never for

48:00

never talked about history on a podcast.

48:02

Never, I would never do that. So

48:06

yeah, it's uh, it's

48:08

it's not super optimistic.

48:11

And there's they have a whole report that will have a link to that

48:13

you can like read if you want. Um.

48:16

Yeah, there's a couple of bits I want to go into,

48:19

uh one of them. And this is again from the Boston

48:21

Globe article quote. Both

48:23

sides turned out massive street protests that

48:25

Trump sought to control. In one scenario, he

48:27

invoked the Insurrection Act, which allows the president

48:29

to use military forces to quell unrest. The

48:31

scenario that began with a narrow Biden win,

48:34

ended with Trump refusing to leave the White House

48:36

burning government documents at having to be escorted

48:38

out by the Secret Service. The team

48:40

playing Biden in that scenario meanwhile, sought

48:42

to patch things up with Republicans by appointing

48:44

moderate republic governors, including Charlie

48:47

Baker of Massachusetts, to cabinet positions, which

48:49

I think is actually shows

48:51

a real understanding of the Democratic

48:54

Party that like, while the President is

48:56

being forcibly escorted out of

48:58

the White House by the Secret Service for burning

49:00

documents, he's putting

49:04

Republicans in his cabinets. Yeah,

49:06

that is what would happen. Yes, just like

49:08

calling Paul Ryan and be like, hey, do you want

49:10

to like you? I'm

49:13

making uh. I

49:15

forgot the fucking Alaska lady who

49:18

was almost the vice president. Jesus, I

49:20

forgot her name. I was gonna make a joke about him

49:22

making her his vice president. I don't

49:24

know nobody even like she's

49:28

like a moderate Republican. Now she's

49:32

a she

49:35

is something else. I forgot

49:37

she existed, yea dipping

49:42

a little bit into Q and on stuff these days.

49:44

But yeah, I mean she probably now

49:46

supports death camps. Yeah,

49:49

so yes, yeah, broadly speaking,

49:51

so quote. The scenario that produced

49:54

the most contentious dynamics, however, was one in which

49:56

Trump won the electoral College and thus the

49:58

election, but Biden won the popular vote

50:00

by five percentage points. Biden's team retracted

50:03

his election. His election night concession, fueled

50:05

by Democrats angry at losing yet another election

50:07

despite capturing the popular vote, has happened

50:09

in two thousand and two thousand and sixteen and

50:11

the mock election. Trump sought to divide Democrats

50:13

at one point, giving an interview to the intercept

50:15

a left leaning news outlets saying Bernie Sanders

50:18

would have won if Democrats had dominated him. Meanwhile,

50:20

Biden's teams sought to encourage large Western

50:22

states to secede unless pro democracy reforms

50:25

were made, which number

50:27

one, I can absolutely

50:29

see Trump sitting down with Glenn Greenwald,

50:31

um, and Greenwald giving him a broadly

50:34

positive right up during a time like that.

50:36

Um, it could happen, Um

50:39

could happen. Yeah, I would be yeah,

50:42

I mean that already that stuff

50:44

though, and like Trump already talked about how Bernie would

50:46

have won, right yeah. What

50:49

I can't imagine, and I

50:51

I'm an imaginer, is Joe

50:54

Biden encouraging the

50:56

West coast to secede. I

50:58

have no idea what they got that an I

51:00

will I will firmly admit that

51:02

that is something I am predicting will not

51:05

happen. If it does, you can

51:07

talk about my seeds.

51:10

We're not getting Biden as president,

51:13

you know. Uh no, But

51:15

did Joe Biden? I think we would make the president of

51:18

the Oregon Republic. He he would

51:21

be our leader as we hid in the mountains

51:23

and shot at Californians trying to flee

51:25

once the water runs out. Sorry, guys,

51:31

drink, you know, if you make

51:33

it to the right checkpoint anyway. So

51:36

um yeah,

51:39

Jesus Christ. Uh, it's

51:41

not it's not a great document to read.

51:43

Um. And it's like the

51:46

most frustrating piece of media

51:48

on this is David Froome's column for

51:50

The Atlantic, because again number

51:53

one, since Froome was there. If you want

51:55

an idea of what it was like to be a part

51:57

of this thing, you do kind of have to read

51:59

it, um, even though David Froom

52:01

is history's greatest monster. Um.

52:04

But also I'll

52:07

just I'll just start reading from it. Quote.

52:10

The good news is that Trump cannot postpone

52:12

the election or the next presidential inauguration.

52:14

He has no means to do either of those things.

52:16

The dates are set by law or in the text

52:18

of the Constitution. Nor can Trump somehow

52:20

clean to power after inauguration day once

52:22

the electoral vote is certified against him. If

52:25

the Electoral College certifies Joe Biden the winner

52:27

when its votes are counted in d C on January

52:29

six, then at noon on January twenty, Donald

52:32

Trump seases to be president. The signature

52:34

loses all legal effect. The officer carrying

52:36

the nuclear football walks away the Chairman

52:38

of the Joint Chiefs of Staff does not take his call.

52:40

The bottom line, there do exist outer

52:43

legal boundaries to the mischief that can be done

52:45

by even the most corrupt president. That

52:48

is, if people honor those boundaries. What

52:51

the what? What? What?

52:53

What world does David Froom liv it

52:56

like I see this every every like month

52:59

when Trump says something wild, Everyone's

53:01

like, he can't do that, it's against

53:04

the law. What the fund are

53:06

you talking about? He

53:08

has been breaking the law every

53:10

day for years. That's not

53:12

an argument against the president doing something,

53:14

And it's not an argument against Donald Trump

53:17

doing something. God

53:20

foolish he's breaking He breaks

53:23

the law in so often

53:25

and so flagrantly, but it makes

53:27

me angry and I love breaking

53:29

the law. Mentioned

53:32

this earlier in his executive order,

53:34

stuff will you get sued? Yeah,

53:36

you get sued for everything he breaks

53:39

the law. Yeah,

53:41

he gets sued because

53:43

he's a he's a crime guy. He's

53:45

the crime guy president. And it's like so

53:47

weird, Like they barely impeached

53:49

him for like one

53:52

of the things he's done. And David Froom

53:54

is like, actually, the institutions will

53:56

say, what get out of here? Remember

54:00

um, how we were like Oh, all

54:02

this impeachment stuff is, you

54:05

know, taking over the election conversation

54:07

and oh no, we're distracting from the election

54:10

because of impeachment. And now we barely

54:12

even remember that he was impeached. Yeah,

54:15

do you remember, Do you remember when David Froome

54:17

worked for a war criminal who's like publishing

54:21

a book about his paintings of

54:23

immigrants now instead of being in

54:25

prison, Like, what are you

54:27

talking about, David? What more

54:31

for us? Robert back to Froome's

54:33

column, So, um Froom

54:35

goes on to, like, uh, note

54:38

that kind of some of the different things

54:40

that he witnessed. Um.

54:42

In the different games that like this this

54:44

group played out, the courts offered

54:47

only slow, weak, and unreliable remedies. Street

54:49

protests were difficult to mobilize and often proved

54:51

counterproductive. Republican elected officials

54:53

coward even in the face of the most outrageous Trump

54:55

acts. Democratic elected officials lacked

54:57

the tools and clout to make much difference. Many

54:59

of the games turned on who made the first bold

55:01

move time after time, That first mover

55:04

was Trump. And it

55:07

goes on to talk about, like in the scenarios

55:09

in which Biden's team eventually won, UM

55:11

Team Trump still managed to like in

55:13

his words, poisoned the political system.

55:16

And he goes on to list some of the things

55:18

that were done in the game that poison the political

55:20

system. And as I read this, I want you to think about

55:22

how many of these things have already been

55:24

done. Quote. It diverted

55:27

public resources to Trump personally. It

55:29

preemptively pardoned Trump associates and family

55:31

members, and tried to pardon Trump himself from criminal

55:33

charges in including money laundering and tax evasion.

55:36

It tried to boost long term economic damage

55:38

so as to prevent early economic recovery and boost

55:40

Republican Republican chances in the two

55:43

elections. It destroyed, hit or privatized

55:45

public records. It tried to sabotage the

55:47

census to favor Republican redistricting

55:49

after it refused to cooperate

55:51

with the incoming administration during the transition

55:54

period in ways that aggravated both pandemic response

55:56

and economic recovery. It's sewed

55:58

pervasive mistrust in the integrity of US elections

56:00

in ways that would polarize and embitter US politics.

56:03

Long after four

56:07

years ago, we're already there with

56:10

with almost I guess like he

56:12

hasn't poisoned the transitions

56:15

team of the president.

56:17

Yet that has not happened yet, because

56:19

like the literal event that is referring to hasn't

56:21

happened yet. So yes, it's literally

56:24

impossible to do that. Yeah,

56:26

it's my favorite of

56:28

the different possibilities they saw, um

56:31

was the Trump like losing

56:33

the election and not like failing

56:36

to sort of contest it and moving

56:38

permanently tomorrow lago the day after the election

56:40

and refusing to return to the White House or do any

56:43

work during the lame duck period, which

56:45

would be funny like that, that would

56:47

legitimately be pretty funny. Um.

56:50

And also I could totally see

56:52

happening like him just trolling

56:54

people for his last time in president and

56:56

fucking around. Um,

56:59

yeah, he's lazy in

57:01

an asshole like that, he is lazy

57:03

in an asshole. Sounds exactly

57:06

right. Yeah, And doing

57:08

something like that some trolling thing will just

57:11

play to his base and whatever thing that he

57:13

does next, starting a media empire.

57:16

I don't know that's what he wanted all

57:18

along. Uh,

57:20

just play into his hand for that. One.

57:23

One of the things that I found kind of personally

57:26

unsettling about this whole thing, Um,

57:29

was so there's the

57:31

kind of note that, like in a lot of the scenarios

57:34

UM, when people would war game out like

57:36

Trump trying to use the military to hold onto

57:38

power, UM, the assumption was

57:40

that it would not work. But they

57:42

make sort of a note that is

57:44

really unsettling, and they're right up of this, and

57:46

this is the actual Transition Accountability project right

57:49

up, which is that UM, basically, it's

57:51

very possible that people's expectations of how

57:54

the military would, the kind of positive

57:56

expectations that the military would stand up

57:58

for our democracy, UM, are more

58:01

or less entirely based on the fact

58:04

that very recently the

58:06

military had kind of stood up to Trump during

58:08

a protest, and that that isn't

58:10

necessarily the most realistic thing to

58:12

base your expectations on, because the

58:14

fact that they kind of stood against

58:17

him, um, during a very different

58:19

sort of situation that happened earlier, doesn't

58:21

mean they wouldn't back him to the hilt

58:24

if something like this happened, UM.

58:26

And we shouldn't make that assumption that the

58:28

military that we can that we can rely

58:30

on the military to stand up for democracy

58:33

in a situation like this. I

58:37

mean, yeah, that

58:40

UM, I think that you know, uh, It

58:43

also depends out who in the military you're talking about

58:45

too. Yeah, yes, yes,

58:47

I should ask the navy seal who threw

58:49

bombs at a bunch of my friends

58:51

the other night. Um, if

58:53

he would stand for President Trump and

58:55

the that's a thing that happened in Portland

58:57

recently. Um, good stuff. It

59:00

sounds like fake news, Robert, it

59:03

does. I actually was worried it might be,

59:05

but then thoroughly reported report

59:07

came out in the Oregon

59:10

Public Broadcasting Anyway,

59:15

he hasn't been arrested yet, still out there, heavily

59:17

armed Navy seal with a history of domestic violence,

59:20

who anyway fun

59:22

stuffs up. So

59:25

the point of all this is that November

59:27

is going to be the best month ever. Oh

59:31

yeah, I think that. Um, well,

59:34

that's the thing, like it's the worst year ever. Uh,

59:36

but like you, we get a little treat in

59:39

November of utter

59:42

chaos, and yeah, just

59:44

to break up the chaos a bit, we'll get some utter

59:46

chaos. Yeah exactly.

59:48

I think it's you know, who's going to bring order to the chaos?

59:52

Us Jordan balth Is R. Peterson.

59:56

God that he has survived

59:59

both his about of poisoning

1:00:01

himself with an all meat diet and

1:00:03

his bout of going to dangerously

1:00:06

unregulated Russian clinic and his bout

1:00:09

of catching COVID nineteen in

1:00:11

Serbia. Um and will be at

1:00:13

Dent when democracy really

1:00:16

needs him this November exactly the

1:00:18

machine. It's

1:00:20

his moment. It's his moment. I

1:00:24

love you, Jordan Balthazar Peterson. What's

1:00:28

the worst you ever? We'll get through it together.

1:00:32

You're making him sound like a muppet, like

1:00:36

that faked

1:00:38

his death and became Jordan Peterson. Is

1:00:41

true. You guys are giving me a headache.

1:00:44

I sorry, I have a horrible headache.

1:00:47

Horrible headache. I think that's

1:00:49

just called I

1:00:54

think it's called covering protests. Every single

1:00:59

give more rubber. No,

1:01:02

I don't, I mean, I mean, thank God,

1:01:04

but also broadly,

1:01:09

there's always more

1:01:11

to say. Well,

1:01:14

I think we've said it all for today. Yep.

1:01:18

Yeah, despite all of this,

1:01:21

I've had fun seeing you guys today. Yeah.

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Always enjoy. Yeah, And

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1:01:41

done, Sophie. And if you're gonna prepare

1:01:43

for November, there's a variety of useful skills

1:01:46

you could invest in, uh learning

1:01:48

gonna make shields, learning

1:01:50

how to will to sling, um,

1:01:53

volunteering for vote

1:01:56

counting maybe but probably not. But

1:01:59

I actually on joke, I mentioned this on

1:02:01

even More News. There is a real

1:02:03

lack of poll workers, uh

1:02:06

severe lack of poll workers being able to

1:02:08

step up because most

1:02:11

poll workers are over the age of sixty. Um,

1:02:13

So if you are healthy

1:02:16

and uh feel

1:02:19

reasonable risking it, that might be something

1:02:21

that we can do to step up during

1:02:23

this time. Not

1:02:25

telling you what to do. I don't know my own comfort

1:02:27

level, but it is definitely a need and

1:02:30

um, someone's got to do it. And

1:02:33

that seems like a great place too, and the show

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