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the nineteenth pick in the twenty

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Washington Football Team selects

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Jaymin Davis, linebacker

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Kentucky. The picks are in

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in the twenty twenty one rookie draft class

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fresh frind Wine is to celebrate our twenty

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twenty one picks, and of course our

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guests today that really doesn't need an introduction,

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but just in case. Fred Smoot is here with us

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today. He's a former cornerback for the

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National Football League for nine seasons. He

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played college football for Mississippi State University

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and was recognized as an All American. Washington

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rows him, we are smart

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in the second round thousand one

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NFL draft, weren't even think overall.

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And he has also played professionally for some

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other team, but we won't even mention that right now. Leaving

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in the bays, leaving in the past,

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and you came back home anyway, Fred,

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welcome, how are you? Were so excited to have

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you on today? And what? Thank you

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ladies, thank you all for having me on. Thank

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you for letting me just intrude on the Wild

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Show. Thank you so much. And sorry

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we were joking before and we said the Wild Show. Well,

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no, no, no, no, this is gonna be the Fred Smooth

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Yes it is. So

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Obviously, we want to talk about our picks,

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and we're gonna start with our number one picks,

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so nineteenth overall, jayman Davis

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from Kentucky. Before we get your thoughts

2:12

on him, let's just give a little bit of background,

2:15

a quick little recap of who he is. First

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of all, he was born into a military family

2:19

and on a military base

2:22

in Honolulu, Hawaii. Just doesn't

2:24

get any better than that. His parents

2:26

part of the United States Army. He was raised

2:28

in Georgia, starting at the age of one. He

2:31

attended Long County High School and he

2:33

played both linebacker and wide

2:35

receiver, and then he played college

2:37

ball at Kentucky. Of course, he was red shirted

2:39

his freshman year and did

2:41

pretty good there as a linebacker.

2:44

Eventually, and noted that he

2:46

wasn't slated to start last season,

2:48

but due to a teammate medical injury, he

2:50

did, and he made a huge

2:53

impact and obviously got

2:55

the attention of coach Rivera.

2:57

So the Washington football team coach

3:00

staff basically had Jaman as the highest

3:02

ranked player defensively. They

3:04

said that he checked all of the boxes, which

3:06

is obviously why we picked him. But

3:08

Fred, what are your thoughts? Well,

3:11

first of all, he has one of the best nicknames

3:13

you can come in as a rookie with his nickname,

3:15

The Shadow. If you're gonna play defensive,

3:17

your nickname the Shadow then says

3:20

it all and just looking at

3:22

you know the rest of the draft picks

3:24

in him. I think coaching them finally they

3:27

was patient and they got everybody they wanted.

3:29

Think about this, The head coach is

3:31

a X linebacker. The defensive coordinator

3:34

is an ex linebacker. The one position that

3:36

they know how to find its linebacker.

3:38

And you want to talk about the intangibles. Coaches

3:41

from a military family. This kid is from

3:43

a military family. So when these things pop

3:45

up and you'd be like, I remember where

3:47

it came from. That's the whole DRAF drill

3:50

process. You find the guy you like. That's

3:52

what they always told us in the drab. You only

3:54

need one team to like you. You don't need all

3:56

thirty two. You need one team to like

3:58

you. And Jaymins just checks all

4:01

the boxes on the coach that they're trying to create

4:03

around here. His playmaking ability.

4:05

Don't forget his six three, two hundred

4:07

and fifty five pounds run forty.

4:10

That's a freight train coming at you. And he don't

4:12

push the brakes right, So you got the

4:14

love that and he and he has a missed

4:17

leadership skills and I think that's what coaches

4:19

trying to get the personalities to blend

4:21

together in the locker room and the leadership

4:24

skill. The guy that brings some other than football

4:27

playing to the table, some intangibles, and that's

4:29

what he brings a lot of. Yeah, and then there were some critiques

4:31

on him just on the sense of that he needs

4:33

to work on past defense. So what are your

4:35

thoughts on that? What does he need to do to make

4:37

sure that we kind of shut up all that noise. Well,

4:40

he actually covered like a Fred smoothed

4:42

linebacker. He was the highest rated coverage

4:44

linebacker. And if you really want

4:46

to see this guy really get out there and cover, watch

4:49

him against a Marshton by the name of Kyle Pitts.

4:51

And I tell if you can check how

4:53

pitch, you can check anybody in the NFL. If

4:55

you watch the Kentucky Florida film, Jamie

4:58

Davis is all over him. And he he was actually

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the best matchup for him. Like he had one

5:02

interception that he ran back for eighty yards. He

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had five or four, I mean four interceptions, three

5:07

of them in the red zone. So he has great

5:09

awareness. Don't want to feel it all. This guy needs

5:11

his reps, more reps, more reps. You brought

5:13

it up, Janine. He only started one year

5:16

all right. So now it's all about getting him,

5:18

getting him in, getting him some reps. And see

5:20

Kenny not only played the middle linebacker

5:22

position but also called the plays

5:25

in line the other ten guys up. I

5:27

think you know he does want to prove himself because

5:29

in an interview he said, I'm going to

5:31

bed. That's how I'm celebrating. I'm

5:33

getting my rest and I'm coming to show you guys

5:35

what I can do. So I love to

5:37

hear that. Well, he was our work. Come

5:39

on, when you come from a military family, think about

5:41

when he got in trouble. He probably had to

5:43

do like five hundred push ups in the kitchen.

5:46

You know, when you got a military dad, times

5:48

can get hard on you. You know, absolutely,

5:53

And like you said, you know coach Roberby,

5:55

he wants a winning culture, and winning culture starts

5:57

with character, not just his ability, his talent, his

5:59

skills. He's got both. So I'm excited to see what our number

6:01

one pick's gonna do, or first round

6:03

pick. Let's move right along into your

6:06

thoughts. On around two and three, we have the

6:08

fifty first pick, offensive tackle Sam

6:10

Cosmy. How do you feel about that one? Oh?

6:13

All I gotta do is put this this gun up because

6:15

this he got major guns. When I say

6:17

this guy's huge, this guy is

6:19

huge. You know in Texas, they're like everything bigger

6:21

in Texas where they didn't leave him

6:23

out. Sam is there. He's huge, and he's

6:26

very athletic, and just talking back and forth with coach,

6:28

coach would say he was he was a raw prospect.

6:30

He dominated the Big twelve with

6:33

no technique. So he was like, wait till

6:35

we get this guy in house, teach him technique.

6:37

You put him on that left side, let him

6:39

practice against Montes, switch Chase Young,

6:42

John Allen and the rest of those guys. What

6:44

kind of guy do we have here? The potential is

6:47

through the roof. So the great part about

6:49

all these draft picks what they have in coming.

6:51

None of them peeked out in college. None of them

6:53

reach their peak in college. All of them have so

6:56

much room to get so much better. But

6:58

they all you know, how should I say,

7:01

did well on the college level enough to go in

7:03

the first two rounds. Yeah, he was, they

7:05

said, smart player. He started all but one

7:07

of his thirty five games in his career. So that's

7:09

interesting that you're saying he still hasn't peaked

7:11

yet because he did start a lot, very

7:14

smart, as I know we want to have. And

7:17

yeah, just to be left tackle hopefully across

7:19

from Morgan Moses is going to be fantastic.

7:22

Well, what you don't know, Stephanie is the office

7:24

lad is the nerd group of the

7:26

football team. So they come smart.

7:28

If you get a dumb line and you have really messed

7:31

up in the drag. Yeah,

7:34

I like you said, Fred, I'm really excited to see him

7:37

get to work and him to grow, especially with

7:39

Jase Young and what he's got going on over there.

7:42

So let's move along to round three. We have Benjamin

7:44

Saint Juice. I just love saying his name, and we

7:47

have Diami Brown. What are your thoughts around

7:49

three? I love Benjamin.

7:51

He's a cornerback. I wouldn't I love the coroner back

7:53

after group. But he's tall. This guy's

7:56

tall. This guy's Richard Sherman tall. This guy

7:58

six three, two hundred pounds. Usually

8:00

you don't get corners they're tall that can move like

8:02

this guy can the hips that he have coming

8:04

in and out the cuts. And he's a fascination.

8:07

He's a fascinating character. Like as I

8:09

had conversation with him, things came

8:11

up in a conversation. First of all, he's from Canada.

8:14

He speaks three anguages, so they

8:16

tell you his intelligence. And not only

8:19

did he go to the Vatican,

8:21

he actually gave the Pope a pair

8:23

of joys. Yes, you heard it from me first.

8:26

Right here, the Pope is jay walking

8:28

in Rome as we speak. This

8:31

guy gave the Pope his joyans and I

8:33

think the Pope actually rocked him. See

8:37

a picture of that, Siah. Seriously,

8:41

it's a true story because Jim

8:43

Harbad in Michigan. This guy was at Michigan

8:45

first, and Jim Harba took the

8:47

whole football team to Rome. And while

8:49

he was at Rome, they got to go to the Vatican.

8:52

And as he sit and talks to the Pope, the Pope told

8:54

him he never owned a pair of tennis shoes. So

8:56

he was like, well, now you do own a pair of tennis

8:58

shoe. So that's got to be one of the best stories you can

9:00

ever tell your kids. So

9:03

that's fascinating. And we also have Jammy Brown adding

9:05

to our fast wide receiver

9:10

Dmy Brown. This guy right here,

9:12

everybody thought he was actually gonna go up sooner

9:14

than he actually did. This guy for North Carolina

9:17

he can run with the best of him, six feet

9:19

tall, two hundred pounds, and his best

9:21

route is a gold route, and that's what we want

9:23

to do. I think the coach looked at this draft and

9:26

say, let me add a wide receiver. You want to add one

9:28

speed to people that can catch

9:30

you with the middle. Like coaches out about toughness,

9:32

he don't like you to be one dimensional. Nobody

9:34

in this draft class it's one dimensional.

9:37

Benjamins Saint Louis can play safety,

9:39

corner and nickel. You know, uh Sam's

9:42

Cosmic can play left talk in right talk.

9:44

So these guys can do a little bit of whatever

9:46

you need for them to do for your team. And Diamond

9:48

Brown won't be left out of this chart.

9:51

They listen to me, Terry is your number

9:53

one. He's gonna get most of your balls. So you

9:55

always had to have a clearout guy. And the clearout

9:58

guy has to have burners, and this

10:00

guy has burners, so he won't just be clearing

10:02

out. We're gonna talk fish Magic, gonna talks them

10:04

two or three of these up to him every game that see

10:06

can he run under? So when you say go

10:09

to route, they said, He's day

10:11

is dangerous on slants. What does

10:13

that? Well, slant means

10:15

five yards and literally slant inside

10:17

of the defensive back. So this is gonna

10:19

be a catching run route. It's gonna be a quick

10:22

route. It's what we call a three step routes.

10:24

So when the quarterback hiped the ball, it's gonna be one,

10:26

two, three, the ball got to be left out of his head and

10:28

that's when they run a quick slant used against

10:30

man coverage. So he's a man beat it. So

10:32

he if you get him out there and you get in one on one,

10:34

he can he can do some damage and he can wreck

10:36

up yards. And I'm gonna tell you what we don't like when

10:38

it comes to our receivers. Now, you might like Yak

10:41

in the club, but we don't like Yak on the football

10:43

field. This is y'alls side of the catch and great Rode

10:45

receivers. Great at Yak. I

10:47

don't know if it's with Coca Cola, but they're great

10:50

at Yat. Oh.

10:53

I don't know where to go with our one.

10:57

We're gonna be right along and wrapped this

10:59

segment up where Jay three rounds

11:01

four through seven. Who's your guy? Oh?

11:04

I love John Bates. I never usually

11:06

go with a guy with the regular name. You

11:08

know, I always say, if a guy I got a regular

11:10

name and sports, I'll show you a regular player.

11:13

And that's the way it usually go. When you're getting

11:15

no more regular than John Bates. All of has

11:17

meant at least ten John Bates in our life.

11:19

But what makes this guy special? He's already

11:21

a polished blocker. But talking

11:24

to coach, he was like, you know what, this the

11:26

type guy that didn't have a twenty opportunities

11:28

to catch the ball. But if he had sixty opportunities

11:31

to catch the ball, we're looking at the fifty catch tight

11:33

end. So he hasn't he hasn't even got

11:35

close to peaking. So John Bates,

11:38

do not be shocked in the middle of the year. If

11:40

John Bates has Jessiman catches it

11:42

tight end, it's logan tongues because he can

11:44

get out there and get the job done. And I got

11:46

to give some love to my gout Cheeseman,

11:48

Cameron Cheeseman. Yes, a long

11:51

snapper in his name is the cheese. I

11:53

think we're gonna love this guy for a while because long

11:55

snappers they stay around, all right, They stay

11:57

around when the coaching staff comes in a launch

11:59

stap could be of a ten, eleven, twelve

12:02

years. I think Cheese is gonna be that guy.

12:04

And Cheese didn't even play football last year. He

12:06

was actually working at a dentist's office.

12:09

He went to Michigan and he was going

12:11

to Denny School at Ohio

12:13

State. So Cheese got a little trader in

12:15

him. But we're gonna push that to the side and

12:18

say, you know what, we got one of the better long snappers

12:20

in the draft. And I think Cheese is gonna be around

12:22

for a long time. Yeah, and of course the name, so

12:25

I know that you know that in and of itself, you like

12:27

him just for that. So yeah,

12:29

you can't cut the cheese like coachingill

12:32

never be able to cut the cheese, never

12:34

in its life. Now just more,

12:36

you know, rounds four through seven, any

12:38

surprises and our picks or is there

12:40

anyone in particular that you can't wait to see

12:43

what will happen in the upcoming season? Well,

12:46

you know what, talking to the seven rounds, it's

12:48

always fun, you know, for much it's

12:51

draft day as a dream come true for some

12:53

of us. Sometimes it's a little nightmare.

12:55

Sprinkle it in there and we some us have to wait

12:57

longer than we anticipate it, and

12:59

it just the fires just

13:01

going. So when I was talking to the six and seven rounds,

13:04

William Bradley, King, Shock and Tony

13:07

Day was happy, but they was mad

13:09

all right. Day was mad. I had to wake

13:11

three days from a name to get called. I

13:13

gotta come here. I gotta prove this. And you get

13:15

that all the time with these six, seven rounds, fifth

13:17

rounds. They come in with a chip on the show

13:19

because they feel like they've been sliding doing the draft

13:21

their dream day. So these guys gonna

13:24

come in with their hair on fire. You're trying to prove to the people

13:26

you took me later than you should have, and

13:28

now the NFL has to pay. I

13:31

love guys with that chip on that show. So we got

13:33

two rushers, all right, that's gonna come

13:35

from ben State in Baylor that watch

13:37

out for the guys. They won't start up with Chase Young in

13:40

Monte Sweat, but rotational guys.

13:42

These guys will play ball. Coach

13:44

said he didn't draft them in the seven round for them to just sit

13:47

there on the field. He's gonna let these guys play well.

13:49

I hoped up right now, I'm ready for football seasons,

13:51

Starr, you got me off, like,

13:53

well, that's the least I could do. That's the least

13:55

I can do. A good time for nade it. Yeah,

13:58

and I think I'm actually more excited it down

14:00

to see our picks for like six and

14:02

seven then our number one round

14:04

picks. So I'm like, let's let's do it.

14:07

Well, it's always the hung rooms. It's like if you're

14:09

a part of the Wolfpack, the Affleave, it is

14:11

probably the hongest one man that the guy is still

14:14

feel like he has some sudden to prove.

14:16

Like I hate to break the news to everybody, but

14:18

sixty percent of the first round there gonna be bust.

14:21

Right. They already feel like they made it. They achieve

14:23

what they want to achieve, but then they're

14:25

gonna forget to play football for the next five years.

14:28

Like then you're gonna have this group of guys that can't

14:30

wait to prove themselves in and out

14:32

every day. And these are the guys they're

14:35

gonna make up the NFL in ten years. We see

14:37

it every year. The NFL is sixty

14:39

percent none drafted guys seven rounds

14:41

and six rounds and fifth rounds. That's what makes

14:44

the meat of the NFL, absolutely,

14:46

and I'm thrilled and excited to see what's

14:48

going to happen out of those class We're gonna take a quick

14:50

break and then we're going to get to know Fred a little bit more.

14:52

Take a stroll down memory lane and get to learn

14:55

a little bit about what your draft experience was like.

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back to the Wow. We are going to take full advantage

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of having Fred here and get to know them a little bit

16:28

more. We just joked about this, but I

16:30

figured, why don't we kick this segment off the little

16:33

this or that. Not that you're not warmed up and ready

16:35

to go, but it'll be a little bit of fun for our listening here.

16:41

Let's do it all right, We're gonna start

16:43

waffles or pancakes, waffles,

16:48

not even a hesitation there They

16:52

are basically the same thing. The waffle

16:55

just gives you the inventions to

16:57

put to put your syrup and as so it's

16:59

not miss like a pancake. That's how

17:01

I look at it. Yeah, I love that. And then

17:03

also to melt and just sit in

17:05

the pocket so that when he don't

17:08

do that to me, Janine, it's too early in the

17:10

more, don't do that all

17:12

right? Next to one draft season or

17:14

preseason. Oh now

17:18

that's a hard one. I think it's gonna

17:20

be draft season to me because it's

17:23

the day that dreams come true. It's the day

17:25

that the trailer tears, is what I

17:27

call it. It's the happiest moms and

17:29

dads in the world. They've watched

17:31

you dream this dream for twenty

17:33

plus years and for that night to come, you

17:36

to share that with your family. Your not your

17:38

life. Don't change you and your family.

17:40

Life changes, your

17:42

last name. Everything changes

17:45

that day in the future, change of your

17:47

family and everybody else. So I'm gonna go with draft

17:49

day, all right. How

17:51

about blowout victory or win

17:53

in overtime. I'm

17:56

gonna go with win in overtime, Like you

17:58

know, you want to just to bear when you

18:00

do it to him, like like when you blow somebody

18:02

out. They at halftime, they were already

18:04

checked out. They're thinking about the next game, putting

18:07

it behind them. But when you give

18:09

them the gut punch and over time,

18:11

I don't care if it's a field goal, walk off

18:13

touchdown, it

18:15

it just lingers with them for like three or

18:18

four days. Like this is what they coaches teach you

18:20

in the league. We gotta get over the winds,

18:22

and we gotta get over the loss. We always got to

18:24

go to the next But some losses are harder

18:26

to get over because some would leave you in the middle of

18:28

that field as a grown man crying,

18:31

and you know, grown men and ugly when they

18:33

cry. And plus it ain't no tissue on the feet.

18:38

I'm with you. I'm with you for that one. Red

18:41

wolves or red tails, there

18:44

ain't no question. I am. I am the auto

18:46

wolf, I am the red wolf. Fred out Stark,

18:49

I'm gonna go with the red wolf. I just think

18:51

the red wolf's a unifying

18:53

thing. Think about think about not only

18:56

me, You think about your nephew,

18:58

your nieces, your sons. You or to sitting

19:00

in there watching that game with you and chase you and

19:02

get a set and all of just hoigy

19:04

like wolves, like you can just run

19:07

with that, it's eighty thousand holly like, Well,

19:09

don't you know if we did that a FedEx field,

19:11

we could actually how so loud

19:14

that the dolls in the twenty mile radius

19:16

would start to hiw with us, Like it's

19:18

just a crazy scenario. Talk

19:21

about my dog at home. How

19:25

I think I have to practice my how? I don't really

19:28

know. Don't worry,

19:30

I gotta I gotta practice mine too, but hopefully

19:32

we practice it for a bit reason. First,

19:34

got time, all right, Last, but not least,

19:36

you know, I have to ask you this one because we always

19:38

are debating this sweet potato pie

19:41

or pumpkin pie. First

19:43

of all, I'm just so disappointed,

19:45

and most answers that I get out of is I

19:47

didn't even know pumpkin pie existed. I thought

19:50

a pumpkin was only for Halloween as

19:52

a how she set

19:54

it on your porch. It's not meant to be eating

19:57

sweet potato pie. I am from Mississippi.

19:59

My ground Mamma would come down and strike

20:01

me down if I did. They say sweet potato

20:04

pie, sweet potato pipe brings the South

20:06

together. Sweet potato pies part of a

20:08

culture. Now. Pumpkin pie.

20:10

On the other hand, I

20:13

didn't even Like I said, I didn't even know what this is. I'm

20:15

sure ladies here y'all are more punkin pie

20:17

and sweet potato pie. No, Janine, and

20:19

I can't believe Janine,

20:22

you did this on purpose because you lay me out during

20:25

a rally on that. You know,

20:27

Stephanie, you know I had to sneak that one because

20:29

I was like, no,

20:32

you can tell a lot. You can tell a lot by a

20:34

person by that answer. You can tell a

20:36

lot by the person. Like if you're looking for some

20:38

person with some flavor, they have to eat sweet

20:40

potato pipe. You're looking for some people with da flavor,

20:43

Pumpkin pie is what they eat. I can tell

20:45

even thought. Somebody could literally get out their car,

20:48

walk into the grocery store and extra clerk

20:50

cannot buy pumpkin pie? Who does

20:52

that my

20:55

favorite? Just for the record, it's pecan pie, not

20:57

even in the in the mixt So well,

21:00

are you coming to the Southern Delights now? Now

21:02

we're talking. Now we're talking about something

21:04

that's different. Like I've never heard

21:06

anybody say, you know what, I'm going to get a pumpkin

21:08

to day because I'm gonna make like five pumpkin dishes.

21:11

All right. We don't actually think about pumpkin

21:13

until November rolls around, and I

21:15

can't go in Starbucks without everything being

21:18

let's flash a pumpkin and I can go to the semi

21:20

level. They serve in pumpkin. So at the

21:23

end of the day, they just tell you it's a surf close to pumpkin,

21:25

because ain't nobody eating it. All right, we're gonna be

21:27

right along. Take us back to your draft

21:29

experience. What was it like when you heard

21:31

your name called going through the draft and

21:33

what was the first thing you did offer your announcement?

21:37

All right, I was in

21:39

Jackson, Mississippi, where I'm from. I'm

21:41

a big grandmama's baby, so I was my

21:44

mama had when she was fifteen. So it was me,

21:46

my mom, my grandmama. We all said there.

21:48

We all talked, and you know, grandma's

21:50

like to give They like to get their

21:53

knowledge and cold. So my grandma

21:55

was always one of them. I'm like, just tell me, I

21:57

can't be figuring it out. Just tell me what's going on. And

22:00

she was like, you said, you stopped being nervous

22:02

because I'm never nervous, right, but this night I

22:04

was nervous because it's draft night. She liked,

22:06

whatever don't happen, boys gonna happen. To just sit

22:08

down writing. So I'm watching this the names

22:11

go and at the time I'm slotted as a top fifteen

22:13

peek but I see, I see my name

22:16

is the best available. But it's ten

22:18

peaks later and I'm not big yet, so I'm

22:20

starting to get mad. I don't start getting Madrid

22:22

in my garment, like everything happened for a

22:24

reason. Just relaxed. So

22:27

then I get a call from Dan Schnyder

22:29

in Washington and they were like you, like, you want

22:31

to be a Washington football player. Of

22:33

course we know the old name. And I was like, yeah,

22:35

I want to be a Watch football player. So then Watchingtonahime

22:38

got on the phone and welcome me to the team. Dan, welcome

22:40

me to the team. And then I watched

22:42

my name get go across the screen.

22:44

Of course, tears came down my eyes. I started

22:46

talking, and of course the media was there from

22:49

Mississippi, so they couldn't wait to put a mike in

22:51

the face and they were wondering why I was like celebrating

22:53

and I was still hot. I was mad, so

22:56

and I and I said this thing. I said

22:58

this little line afterwards, and I said, you know, no

23:01

matter what happened, I promise you

23:03

ice to float to the top. No matter how

23:05

much water it's surrounded, it will float

23:07

to the top. So I'm gonna be all

23:09

right, I'm gonna have a long career. And I knew I was,

23:11

and I came in there with that seventh round

23:13

mentality. I had just went second round and

23:16

I just went to pick out the Drew Brees

23:18

and I'm still mad. And this shows you how

23:20

intense that day is and how competitive

23:23

that day is. And I don't know if it's because of bragging

23:25

writes what, because it's never how you

23:27

enter the league, it's how you leave the league.

23:30

And on my draft, like, like I said, I

23:32

was happy. I was mad, but

23:34

I couldn't wait to get to the DNV because I had never

23:36

I had never been to the DNV, So it was

23:38

one of them things. It was. It was emotionally

23:41

exhausted, But when I woke up the next

23:43

morning, I was blessed. I was fine.

23:45

I was enjoining it, and I couldn't wait to play the Cowboys

23:47

because half of my family the Cowboy fans,

23:50

So they're just the way it goes, you know, living

23:52

down South, and I used to give them tickets

23:54

to the Cowboys game and they would come and

23:56

boom me, and I'm like, I'm your family,

23:58

how you gonna chow up in the Cowboys game and boom

24:01

me? Luckily, my name Schloop

24:03

sounds like the word boo, so it never

24:05

bothers me. I use it at Armor. Well,

24:09

I have to say, we're very glad that

24:11

you went when you went and came where you came.

24:13

So it was just so much fun on the

24:15

sidelines cheering you on, and then obviously

24:17

now having you as part of the extended

24:19

family after retirement.

24:22

But I have to ask, like that first year, was

24:24

there a particular hit or a particular

24:26

play or something that happened where You're like, okay,

24:29

yeah, this is definitely the pros.

24:31

I'm not in college anymore. Oh, it

24:33

was my first game. I would never forget my

24:35

first game. I'm a start up. My first game, I'm

24:38

literally twenty years old, the youngest person on

24:40

the field and the Skinnies, and I

24:42

would never forget. We were playing the same day ago,

24:44

playing against Doug Flutie in junior

24:46

say out, and I just remember sitting

24:48

on the sideline while you know, they was on defense,

24:52

and I was like, is it two junior say outs

24:54

out there? He was literally making that many plays.

24:56

I thought it was twins out there, and he was

24:58

just unstoppable voice.

25:00

And then as we got on the fielding, I'm playing against

25:02

Doug Flute and these guys that I've just been

25:04

watching for five ten years Adalyzing.

25:07

Now I'm one of them, and I think that's the first

25:10

thing that hit you on that first game. It's very sobeging,

25:13

but it's very you still kind of starstruck,

25:15

like you're still looking around at the back of jerseys

25:17

and in names, and you know, I'm looking

25:20

at the field like I've been want to play on this field forever.

25:22

So it's still you in shock

25:24

and odd. But luckily my first game, I went

25:26

out and got NFC Player of the Week. I had

25:28

my first in the self ship, my first fumble recovery

25:31

eight tacer, So it was I got

25:33

my pains dirty in that game. So this

25:35

the game that showed me that I belong because

25:37

all rookies are gonna look for that game that

25:39

shows them all, right, yeah, you dominated

25:42

college but you belong with the pros too. It's

25:44

the speed of the game got much

25:46

faster, Like did that hit you too? That

25:49

first game? It's a lot faster. Where

25:51

it ain't that it's so much faster than college.

25:53

It's just no wasted steps in the

25:55

NFL. The one thing about it

25:57

is in college, everybody ain't pro this

26:00

field. Now they're good, but they ain't pro.

26:02

Now when you get you the pros, even the

26:04

last person on the roster is a start.

26:07

He can make you look bad any given Sunday.

26:09

So the thing about it is the pros

26:11

don't waste steps. They don't how

26:14

should I say, They always got a plan for

26:16

every situation in everything.

26:19

So it's not your athletic

26:21

prowess that's gonna help you dominate the league. It's

26:23

your intelligence. And that's why a lot of people

26:25

don't translate position to the NFL. Weell

26:27

because when they put this playbook in front of you

26:29

with five hundred plays and they ain't giving

26:32

you no study. Hall all right, we're running these

26:34

plays tomorrow. Everybody get here, Everybody

26:36

get the job done, and everybody needs to be

26:38

crispy on these stuff. So it's more of a mental

26:40

challenge than a physical challenge. What did you do with

26:43

your first paycheck? My

26:45

first paycheck is I removed my mama

26:47

from the hood. There was always my

26:50

dream growing up

26:52

is I'm a mama's boy. You know that what it

26:54

was. So I was like, all right, once she's living good, I'm

26:56

fine. I'll be all right. I get me old

26:58

tirehouse and sterile and I'll be fine.

27:01

But I want to make sure that I esteblished

27:03

her, got her h not

27:05

only a new house. You know. Of course, you gotta get a

27:08

new car. And they love their Cadillacs.

27:10

Don't women love their Catacs? So I had to get old

27:12

Catlett. And you know, once

27:14

I had her out in suburbs living

27:17

her best life, now I could relax

27:19

and go play my rookie years. So that's how I count

27:22

want to set it up. First things first,

27:24

take care of mom, take care of grandma.

27:26

I worry about me, lad. So this this what

27:28

I just how I handled it. Like,

27:30

you're getting major brownie points with Stephane.

27:33

I ever heard her mama

27:36

when show. This is a show

27:39

about women dominating by women, So I'm

27:42

talking about other women. So yeah, hit the office right,

27:44

Yeah for my two

27:46

boys. So listen right here to this

27:48

part.

27:52

I believe all these early mornings

27:55

is in these these sack

27:57

lunches and all the love you give them.

27:59

This what boys do they live to won't to

28:01

repay that they live. They feel totally

28:04

in debt about that when they shouldn't because y'all

28:06

love us anyway. But we always

28:08

feel like you know, when I do achieve some this

28:10

is the reason why these are the people why I

28:12

got here absolutely well. Year one

28:15

under coach rom Rivera's in the books the second

28:17

drift under his era. How are you feeling about

28:19

this organization as we move into year

28:21

two. I'm feeling great. I don't think I would

28:23

feel this good about this organization when

28:25

I played for the first time. We

28:28

have a brain trust in the front of office.

28:30

This show that they can work together through

28:32

anything. We have a head coach that's

28:34

been through everything. He's won a

28:36

Super Bowl, he's coached at the Super Bowl, he's

28:39

beat cancer, he's done everything

28:41

you can possibly do. The show that he's a leader.

28:44

And then everything when any time I come

28:46

over there, now everything is all football, and

28:49

that's what it is. It's all football over there.

28:52

No shenanigans, no, no, none of that if

28:54

they just rewriting the books when it comes to how

28:56

to him to yourself as a Washington player, and

28:58

then why is all football is? The

29:00

head coach was a middle linebacker. The the as

29:02

a coordinator wasn't mental linebacker, So therefore

29:05

the genitor was a middle linebacker. Everybody

29:07

in the building all they worry about is

29:10

football, and you could feel it, and you can

29:12

cut the tension with the actually when you come up with it. These guys

29:14

are all business. This younger generation

29:16

of Washington football players, all from Alabama

29:19

or Ohio State. These guys are not used to losing, right,

29:21

So are you losing? Coaches? Ain't what they had

29:23

I tell people this all the times. The Washington

29:26

football team. We have never

29:28

lost to the Dallas Cowboys in our life.

29:31

We have never lost to the Philadelphia

29:34

Eagles in our life, not one

29:36

time, one hundred percent. Never

29:39

lost to these teams. That's how that's how

29:41

they care about. They don't care about when I played. They

29:43

care about now, and that's how that matters. Yeah,

29:46

and you're absolutely right, because I mean the fans, that's

29:48

what we care about. The hearing now as well. Yeah,

29:50

we can brag on you know what happened in the past,

29:52

or what really matters is the hero and now and

29:55

then, So kind of thinking about that and where

29:57

you are now, if you had to

30:00

kind of change anything professionally

30:03

or personally kind of what would

30:05

it be and what would your advice to yourself

30:07

be? Kind of now where you are currently?

30:11

Uh, I wouldn't change none

30:13

of the bad none of the lessons. I wouldn't. You

30:15

know, you don't ever learn in life through the good

30:18

times. Good times don't take it, require no

30:20

energy to enjoy. It's

30:22

the bad times that shape you. This when

30:24

you learn lessons. This when you change

30:27

things. That's when you rearrange your priorities.

30:29

It is when you go through some ups and downs. You show

30:31

me somebody that never went through some ups and downs, and I show

30:33

you somebody that's guaranteed to learn

30:36

some lessons in the future. So I would

30:38

think my lessons, I what makes

30:40

you your mistakes or what makes you? But

30:43

who you are? It comes afterwards.

30:46

You can't You don't process

30:48

yourself while you're going through the grind. Do you process

30:50

your stuff out there going through the ground? You know who

30:52

am I now? Like? What did I learn from

30:55

them ups and downs? Like what did they teach

30:57

me? And that's the key. So I would

30:59

just tell my younger self have some

31:01

fun, yeah man, and keep it in a road. Love

31:05

that, And it just reminds me of something that coach

31:07

Ribera says on you know, an interview

31:09

that I did with them. I was talking about when lose

31:11

or draw, and he was like, no, it's when learn

31:14

or draw, does it? You never lose?

31:17

Yeah, every single experience that you have,

31:19

just like you said, you even if it's a negative one,

31:21

you just learn from it and then it becomes a positive

31:23

experience. So I love that you said that. Yeah,

31:25

because life ain't what you go through. Is

31:27

how you process what you go through and

31:30

what you be or from when you go through it. Like,

31:32

this is what people are always gonna judge you about. People

31:34

never judge you about your good times, like I said,

31:37

they only gonna judge you in your worst situation.

31:39

So don't let your worst situations define

31:41

you because they never will. Yeah,

31:44

you're absolutely right. I mean we could literally

31:46

talk to you forever because

31:48

you're so upbeat. You have so many amazing stories

31:51

and you seem to be just always happy.

31:53

So like what motivates you? So, like,

31:56

how is it that you always arrived with

31:58

a smile, upbeat gets

32:00

you going and keeps you going. Well.

32:02

You know what, Like I said, when your grandma babies

32:05

and they teach you these these lessons in life. She always

32:07

told me, your energy can dictate a room.

32:09

If you come in here with bad energy, it

32:12

can set the tone for a room. If you come in here

32:14

with good energy, it could set the tone for a room.

32:16

So every day that I walk in, I

32:19

feel blessed. Come on, is a people

32:21

on this earth? This last year has

32:23

taught us appreciate every

32:26

day, I good bad in between.

32:28

Appreciate life. So me myself

32:30

every day that I wake up, I wake up with a smile on

32:32

my face, Like people never know when I'm never going

32:34

through anything because I'm still smiling.

32:37

Then I just think, at the end of the day, you can control

32:39

your mood, and you can control your desires,

32:41

and you can control how much you want something to go out

32:44

there and achieve it. But everything else, if

32:46

I can't control it, I don't worry about it. I

32:48

don't let it worry me. I just keep on

32:50

going my life and I'm gonna enjoy myself and I'm

32:52

gonna dictate the spirit that's around

32:54

me, and I'm always gonna be a good spirit, good kindred

32:56

spirit, and keep good energy

32:59

flowing. Yeah, your your energy and

33:01

your vibes are rubbing off on me. I'm about to go conquer

33:03

the day. I'm feeling, sorry, the

33:07

best out of this day. We won't get this day

33:09

back. That's a promise. Well, we do know we

33:12

can't replay this day. We can't redo

33:14

this day. So walk into that day with a

33:16

smile and walk out out with a smile, and you'll

33:18

forget you even had problems most of the time. Like

33:22

a man, we need, like a Fred Smoot, words of affirmation

33:25

to be played every morning. So if you want to work

33:27

on that, get you got work,

33:29

smile about that work. That's

33:32

great, that's a good start. Well, Fred, it has

33:35

been an absolute pleasure having you. We're

33:37

definitely gonna have you back when we get into football

33:39

season, for sure. But for our listeners,

33:41

can you plug where they can follow you? What shows they

33:43

can look for you? On Twitter

33:46

at I smoot and shunt

33:48

twenty one. That's my boy all day long,

33:50

gonna keep his memory alive. You can find

33:52

me on Instagram at if smoot twenty seven

33:55

and you can really find me talking some good trains with

33:57

my great friend Chicken Man Dance and the

34:00

Chicken Smooth Podcast. Believe me, you

34:02

will not be left unentertained.

34:06

It's a great show. It's great fun. Of course,

34:08

you can find me all over the Washington Network

34:10

because I'm constantly in with Julie Donaldson having

34:12

fun with everybody. And you can catch me on the

34:15

Wild Show every once in a while when they let

34:17

me in. Right, yeah,

34:19

you're gonna be a reoccurring guest for sure. On the While,

34:22

I'm guaranteeing that, well,

34:24

you got an Alabama, you got an Alabama

34:26

fun back then, so you know, you know it's

34:29

sec against everybody. But I'm still looking

34:31

to the left a live because no more boy dogar

34:34

almost brought that cowbell out for you a

34:37

cow bear here. Don't make me ring it my neighbors with life.

34:41

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are heading into will overtime. I

35:43

am still like blushing red and

35:45

my apps are from laughing so much at Fred,

35:47

who is just such a rude and like he said, he's

35:49

just such a light in a force and

35:51

energy to have as part of our watching football excentate family.

35:55

So we're going to kick it over to Stephanie to talk about

35:57

our rail events for May. Sure,

36:00

and I agree with you every time we talk with smooth.

36:02

He's just one of those people you want to be around, do you want

36:04

to talk to He's so much fun. So glad

36:06

he was with us today for a while. We are

36:08

having an event Wednesday, May nineteenth.

36:11

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36:17

So we're going to put together our own wow play

36:20

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36:23

have one of our Washington football team coaches join

36:25

us this evening and we'll talk about

36:28

how they make plays. We'll speak with

36:30

the Washington Times reporter Julie

36:32

Donaldson, and one of our alumni, most likely

36:34

Sean Springs, will help us as well with coming

36:37

up with our own play. So it is limited

36:39

registration in person FedEx

36:41

Field. Very excited to see all of you ladies. Yeah,

36:45

I mean I'm gonna be there. Like just being back

36:47

at FedEx Field for our draft

36:49

party was so much fun. So everyone, if

36:51

you want to join us, you have to do it quick. You

36:53

have to RCB fast because I know those spots

36:56

are going to fill up. And

36:58

just as a reminder, kind of like a heads

37:01

up for the month of May, it is Military Appreciation

37:03

Months. So our next guest an amazing

37:06

woman, amazing leader, an amazing mom. Commander

37:09

Chief Master Sergeant Jemisa Barnes. She

37:11

is and holds the ninth and highest

37:14

enlisted rank in the US Air Force. So

37:16

it's definitely a conversation that you're going to want

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