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Jim It's

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time for WrestleMania 40 Predictions.

1:03

I am Luke Owen DAD.

1:05

I'm joined by your jam

1:07

that champion the truth the

1:09

professor the defending jam that

1:12

jam and defending undisputed

1:15

all the rest of them Dan Layton

1:17

is here He's gonna be defending his belt on

1:19

both nights of Wrestle. I mean I shouldn't say

1:21

both nights cuz you may lose In

1:24

which case Laurie will be going into night two

1:26

as champion in satini Angie the winners of the

1:28

2024 Royal Jam balls Yeah,

1:31

and it's also a very strong possibility because let me

1:33

tell you about this I don't know

1:35

how this recipe is gonna go so many

1:37

paper views over the past year I've been

1:39

like five matches or feel pretty straightforward

1:43

For some reason this card. I'm like I

1:45

can't call it half of them a

1:47

lot of them could go Yeah, either

1:49

way justify Like why some

1:51

of them you might be out there like oh, no

1:53

it's absolutely gonna be this But they've done enough in

1:56

the storyline to give me justification reason why they might

1:58

go the other way. Yeah, that's what's my

2:00

brain go a bit. Absolutely, yeah. So well

2:02

let's get into our predictions for this show.

2:04

Laurie and Sat have given me their predictions

2:07

so I'm going to be their avatar for

2:09

this episode. I'll give my own thoughts along

2:11

the way. Great. The predictions that matter are

2:13

the ones that come from Laurie and the

2:15

ones that come from Sat. Those are what

2:18

we are here for. I

2:20

am very excited for

2:22

WrestleMania. Very, very excited. I know

2:24

there's been a lot of chatter

2:27

about this almost feeling like it

2:29

has the potential to be among

2:31

the greatest WrestleManias ever because it

2:33

really feels like the hype for

2:35

this year's WrestleMania is

2:37

probably the most hype I've seen for

2:40

a WrestleMania maybe

2:42

since X7 in terms

2:44

of like everything is so

2:46

hot at the moment and everyone is

2:48

so excited for everything that is

2:50

on this card. I can't, you

2:53

say something like that and it feels like because X7 exists

2:55

in this kind of like other plane

2:58

of existence. And because it was so long

3:00

ago. Yeah exactly so there's the joy of

3:02

history and nostalgia and all that makes it

3:04

even bigger but when I then think

3:06

about all the, I mean I was excited for every

3:08

Mania when I was, it's Mania making you excited. Yeah,

3:10

yeah, yeah. And yet last

3:12

year, oh I was looking forward to

3:14

it, the bloodline felt really good and it was really good.

3:16

38, yeah fine. 37, cool. 36, other things were interesting. 35,

3:23

oh yeah cool. This one is one where I'm like I'm

3:25

quite looking forward to that weekend, I've had

3:28

my eye on the counter for a long

3:30

time. I think there's a difference between being

3:32

excited and being hyped. That's it. There's always

3:34

excitement for WrestleMania. I'm always going to be

3:36

excited for WrestleMania. It's WrestleMania. Even when they

3:38

were on their turgid runway, like

3:41

every WrestleMania felt like it was the most

3:43

unwatchable show of the year. There's

3:45

always still yeah but it's WrestleMania. So the

3:47

Royal Rumble is the same thing. Yeah even

3:49

like, I mean this is Royal Rumble was

3:52

for some people a chronic disappointment and yeah I

3:54

was so excited going in with the Rumble and

3:56

I'll be excited for next year as well. Absolutely, the

3:58

Rumble will never fail to decide. disappoints me even

4:01

when it's disappointing because it's the Royal

4:03

Rumble and the WrestleMania has that same

4:05

feel to it But I read I

4:07

mean it's quite a hyperbolic statement to

4:09

make hyperbolic hyperbolic I don't know

4:11

the correct way. I never know go with it

4:13

and push past it and hope no one notices

4:16

because it's hyperbolic Yeah hyperbolic, but yeah,

4:18

I think it's hyperbolic. Yeah, anyway, it's

4:20

hyperbolic quite exaggerated Say

4:23

since x7 but I am talking about hype

4:25

more than x7. Yeah, I think I think

4:27

you're wrong I think the levels of hype

4:29

for this show are at an all-time high

4:36

But I think with the rock Coming in and

4:38

this bloodline thing has just been pushed into overdrive

4:40

But like I look at this card and me

4:42

and Oli will miss having an argument in the

4:45

office of which night has the better

4:47

Lineup. Yeah. Yeah, cuz each one of them

4:49

is like I think I would say that

4:51

night one is the stronger of the two

4:54

But it's not to say that there's bad

4:56

things on night two because night two also

4:58

has Cody versus Roman And yeah in the

5:00

main event and it's also got Seth and

5:02

Drew and it's got EO and Bailey Yeah

5:14

Yeah, I completely agree I mean I would probably be inclined

5:16

to say I'm more looking forward to night one than night

5:18

two but night two is very much

5:20

predicated on the main event whereas There's

5:23

so much other stuff going on there Could they make it

5:25

could they will go through it when we see the matches

5:27

but could there be an argument that they move? One or

5:29

two things they swap one or two things around because the

5:32

pace of the show I was listening to a Mick

5:34

Foley podcast And he was talking about how every match

5:37

has its purpose And you it's all

5:39

to if you go in at 11 every single

5:41

time You're

5:43

probably gonna be exhausted by the end. So you need to be

5:45

able to amp yourself up but This

5:49

card is so stacked that it's

5:51

like how do you do that? Where does that

5:53

lull? Yeah, I mean I'll tell you where it comes

5:55

in it when we get there Okay,

5:58

because I got one match where I'm like, that's my toilet to be

6:00

honest. Yeah, I think I've got

6:02

all weekend. I think I might have two of those.

6:05

Oh, just in a second one. Yeah. Okay,

6:07

good. Let's get into this.

6:10

We will be doing our live

6:12

reactions to WrestleMania from Hooked

6:14

on Wrestling's event in Old Street. So we're

6:16

going to have a stacked

6:18

old room behind us doing the live reactions

6:21

for this year's WrestleMania. And I'm so excited.

6:24

I was, I wanted to have a lot of people with,

6:26

because I want to be in a room filled with people

6:28

for this year's WrestleMania. That's where my level of hype is.

6:30

And we're kicking off night one

6:33

talking about the Women's World Championship

6:35

match. It's Rhea Ripley versus Becky

6:37

Lynch. Champions

6:40

advantage, you do get to go first. These are

6:42

Laurie's picks you're going to be up against. This

6:44

is difficult though, because we're getting off with one

6:46

more I don't know, because I pretty much had

6:49

Becky nailed on since like September,

6:51

October time. Sydney Nairn, she's got the book. Well this

6:53

is it. And you know, and a great book it

6:55

is. I've been reading it all week. And

6:59

yet Rhea's reactions are

7:01

so strong that I'm like, well, you

7:03

can do a lot worse than keeping

7:05

it on her. I'm

7:07

going to stick with my Becky call. I

7:10

think we

7:12

like to cheer our baby

7:15

faces when they're underdogs. And I do see a potential

7:17

for a sort of double turn or at the very

7:19

least a cementing of Rhea

7:22

as top baby face.

7:24

Looks like the judgment day have fallen to pieces. Looks

7:27

like her situation with Dom is moving on. So

7:29

this is an opportunity I think to

7:31

do something quite interesting with her and also to do something

7:33

quite interesting with now and

7:37

Becky as well I suppose. I think I'm sticking with

7:39

Becky. I think what's been really interesting about Rhea is

7:41

not just they were kind of leading her into that

7:43

what felt like a baby face turn going into elimination

7:46

chamber going up against you. But

7:48

I think that now looking post chamber that

7:50

really was just a situational thing as

7:52

opposed to this is a direction we're heading.

7:55

But that doesn't mean you couldn't do potentially

7:57

a double turn at WrestleMania with Becky. The

8:00

book thing I think is what's kind of keeping

8:02

me on the Becky as a babyface train Not

8:04

only that but you've also set up a program

8:06

with Liv Morgan Yeah, and Rhea Ripley post-wrestlemania So

8:08

you kind of want to keep Liv Morgan as

8:10

a babyface I guess Rhea Ripley So

8:13

I'm so interested on this one. Laurie's

8:16

also gone Becky. Yeah on this one

8:19

I thought one of you might have gone Rhea because

8:21

in my own when I do my Wrestle League predictions

8:23

I'm gonna be picking Rhea Ripley to retain It's the

8:25

Liv Morgan thing. It's the other there are there are

8:27

many other things where I feel like you could make

8:29

a strong case Where we really see there's a lot

8:32

a lot to do with her still being the champ.

8:34

That's why I had to call I just think I'm

8:36

sticking to my guns rather than rather than you know,

8:38

but it certainly went with my Joker

8:40

how do you feel about this I did see this

8:43

as a potential pitch of Ripley

8:45

retains and Retains through

8:47

to a mania 41 hate it and

8:51

you do Rhea versus Bianca Undefeated

8:55

two-year champion going

8:57

up against miss WrestleMania undefeated at

8:59

WrestleMania So

9:02

my problem is we're not even through 40 yet

9:04

and you're already booking 40 you want and when

9:06

you do that it lends an entire year to

9:08

an inevitability of like

9:10

I Don't feel any peril

9:12

for Rhea and I think my problem which has

9:14

happened this year Yeah my problem with that with

9:16

long title reigns like that is and also it's

9:18

the way that We as

9:20

audience members now think because we're so much

9:23

more engaged if that's even possible and

9:25

so much smarter Really, I suppose with

9:28

we're not just thinking of like the storylines and what would you do

9:30

with the storyline with it? We're like really thinking of the booking and

9:32

how do you position the baby face and how do you do? WrestleMania

9:35

is the biggest show which it is like and there's a

9:37

reason rule so hyped for it I

9:40

feel like long reigns have had their

9:42

time. It was nice to establish that, you know

9:45

Titles matter titles are important.

9:47

But I Keeping

9:50

your product fresh I

9:52

think is gonna be key coming out of

9:54

WrestleMania 40 and I think the way to do

9:56

that is have the division be competitive and

9:58

when I say competitive hard

10:00

to be competitive if you're

10:04

just sort of queuing up rotationally to lose to

10:06

the champion because we're waiting until next year at

10:08

WrestleMania. I never said it was a

10:10

good idea. No, no, no. I think it was a pitch

10:12

that I saw that I thought was interesting. Speaking

10:15

of long title reigns, Gunther

10:17

defends the Intercontinental Championship

10:19

against Sami Zayn. Where

10:23

are you falling on this one? Obviously, we

10:25

talked about this on the Raw podcast yesterday,

10:27

the training angle that they did and the

10:29

go home angle that they did for this.

10:32

I have kind of been saying for

10:34

a while that WWE told

10:36

us up front, this is the Rocky

10:39

story, which is he lost at Chamber

10:41

last year and this is his Rocky

10:43

too, so he's going to win

10:45

the title this time round. But they have

10:47

also got that Chad Gable factor in there

10:50

of he wants to be the

10:52

guy to get his revenge on

10:54

Gunther. So what are

10:56

you thinking? What are you feeling? I

10:58

think this is another example where I

11:00

think they've done a really good job

11:03

of giving us many different options because

11:05

I've made no bones

11:07

about being team Chad, team Chad Gable

11:10

the whole time. But what

11:12

they've done with Sami is make it really believable

11:14

that he could be the person to

11:16

do and Gunther even knowing that Gunther

11:19

was likely to have been

11:21

facing Brock Lesnar and thus I would

11:23

imagine not losing the belt at WrestleMania.

11:26

They've done enough to make me go even with that closing angle

11:29

like we talked about yesterday, they

11:31

did enough to make

11:33

me see fear in Gunther's eyes. So

11:36

it kind of could

11:38

go both ways. If why were to go

11:40

with Sami, I

11:42

can see Chad being like, I helped you win that, can I

11:44

have a go? And that being an

11:46

interesting storyline to play with immediately, allowing

11:48

Gunther some space immediately away from the end of

11:51

the continental title scene so that he can move

11:53

on to his next, I think,

11:55

which is the main event picture. It's

11:59

a neat. place to take off Gunther. However,

12:03

I think Gunther might just

12:05

keep going. I think when I talk about long

12:07

range and they're needing to be some, this is

12:09

the one where I feel like this is a

12:11

long range where it has felt competitive because it's

12:14

the thing we always talk about. He shows vulnerability.

12:16

He's a champion. He's a strong person who's not

12:20

afraid of looking vulnerable

12:22

to look stronger, if that makes sense. So I'm

12:24

sticking with Gunther on this one. The

12:26

story's gone for Sami Zeng on this one.

12:28

I think it's interesting. It's something kind of

12:30

hit me while you were talking then. One

12:32

of the reasons why I think people are

12:34

looking at WrestleMania as the time to take

12:36

the belt off Gunther is that idea of

12:39

moving them away from the IC picture into

12:41

the world title picture. Bash at Berlin is

12:43

coming later on this year. But

12:45

WWE have done a job of presenting

12:47

the IC title as a really major

12:49

prize. So Gunther doesn't need to be

12:51

going for the World Heavyweight Championship at

12:53

Bash at Berlin because that's not

12:56

necessarily the top prize on Raw. He

12:58

could go into that as IC champion

13:00

and he would make that feel like

13:02

that is the top prize on that

13:04

night. I also feel like the

13:07

title makes the man and the man makes the title

13:10

that whole dynamic. If Gunther's going

13:12

for your belt, he's done such a good job

13:14

with the Intercontinental title that it makes your belt

13:16

feel more important because it's something worthy

13:18

of Gunther, if that makes sense. So

13:20

having them both together, I was kind of not

13:23

really here for the double, especially because I saw

13:25

them all being super long reigns and whatever. But

13:29

I don't know, I think

13:33

there is potentially, especially for that

13:35

post-Mania lull that we do tend to

13:37

experience, there's something to be said for keeping

13:39

the title on Gunther so that

13:41

we can build to maybe a Raw main event to get

13:43

your eyes on it because this might be the time he

13:46

loses it, if that makes sense. We

13:48

have a six pack tag

13:50

team ladder match for the

13:52

Undespeeded WWE Tag Team Championship.

13:54

However, they did establish on

13:56

Raw that it is

13:58

for the individual belts. individual.

14:01

Could you imagine? Four belts on the line.

14:03

Kofi Kingston and Finn Balor become tag champs.

14:06

I'd actually love it if it was that

14:08

way. But it is it's for the Raw

14:10

Tag Team Championships and for the SmackDown Tag

14:12

Team Championships as opposed to the collective undisputedness

14:14

of them all. Yeah. So people have been

14:16

fantasy booking that they're gonna split the belts

14:19

up in this match. This

14:21

feels like well we're definitely now saying yes

14:23

we're splitting these belts up in this match.

14:26

So I will need two picks from you.

14:28

You can pick the same person twice. Yeah.

14:30

You could still keep them both together but

14:32

I did ask Laurie to give me two

14:34

picks. You don't have to say which pelts

14:36

is which. You just pick two winners from

14:38

this. Yeah. This is looking

14:41

at WrestleMania 2000, my first WrestleMania.

14:43

This is Chris Jericho versus Benoit versus Angle. Right.

14:45

Fall one is for the IC belt, fall two

14:47

is for the Eurocon... for the European Championship. The

14:49

only tricky thing for me and I still can't

14:52

quite get my head around how this is gonna

14:54

look. Like there's only really one way they can

14:56

do it and that's to have two teams retrieve

14:59

them at the same time. Yeah. Because if you're up there

15:01

already and you pull one down well you might as well

15:03

get the other ones as well because then you got double

15:05

the gold. Unless they're

15:07

not hanging on the same thing and there's two...

15:09

they're hanging in separate sides of the ring. That's

15:12

a fun way. I thought maybe they'll... you pull

15:14

down one and then the thing gets lowered and

15:16

the referee slides in and attaches the new two

15:18

and then they go up and the match sort

15:20

of carries on as is. I look like a

15:22

bully sister. I love yours though. Yeah. Of like

15:24

them hanging on opposite sides of the ring. Because

15:27

the need is very different. If you imagine like, oh I managed

15:29

to get it quite early on, well it's

15:33

then an extra challenge to be able to go and

15:35

get the other ones. Yeah. I guess I'm trying to

15:37

turn into Gradiated. I don't know. I'm gonna go with

15:39

the awesome truth for one of them. I think that

15:41

is the story that has been told and I think

15:44

that doesn't mean I want them to have a long

15:46

reign. I'd actually quite like them to lose it almost

15:48

immediately. I would like to lose them on the raw

15:50

Romania. Yeah. I mean for me it would have been

15:52

the Baron Corbin, Brumbreaker, tag team. Just

15:55

plow through them. But I don't know if that would be

15:57

the case. But awesome truth would be one of them. And

16:00

I If

16:03

you want to make a statement Whack them

16:05

on the old new cash Republic. The thing is none of

16:07

the others. I don't think it's

16:09

a Judgment Day I see this being the end of the Judgment Day

16:12

full stop. I'm Maybe

16:15

a bit brand loyal with my

16:17

picks there But

16:20

I feel like it's got to be one of the Smackdown teams I

16:22

certainly don't feel like it's gonna be a time down under unless you

16:24

want to reward them because they've been doing some good work so Yeah,

16:28

awesome truth in new cash Republic. Sorry fun.

16:31

Laurie has gone for new cash Republic and

16:33

DIY DIY

16:36

and I can certainly see the end

16:39

I can understand that pick because that

16:41

is This whole thing

16:43

with putting DIY they've been in the company for

16:45

10 years. This is their first WrestleMania Yeah, imagine

16:47

is like on their first WrestleMania. They also then

16:49

win the tank tiles, but I

16:51

think you can do that on TV I would have picked awesome

16:53

truth Yeah, cuz I think this whole

16:55

story has been about its Damien Priest versus our truth

16:57

is the real story of this I'm I'm still stunned

16:59

in a way that this isn't just a straight up

17:02

tag match. I mean me too I mean, it's it's

17:04

absolutely wild to me that it's not but because I

17:06

think you could have had a better opportunity but

17:08

that said if they want to use it as a way to

17:10

split the belts, it's neater than Give

17:13

me those. Yeah, give me those In

17:17

a brother versus brother match.

17:19

This is one of my toilet breaks. I've

17:21

actually realized there are three Yeah, I

17:23

don't think this has got the hype going

17:26

into it that it really should have done

17:29

Considering how hot the bloodline story is

17:31

at the moment Yeah, this does not

17:33

feel like it's connected to this massive

17:35

bloodline story that is dominating the main

17:37

events. Yeah, it's Jimmy versus

17:39

Jay Uso brother versus

17:41

brother matches as outside

17:44

of Brett and Owen Historically

17:46

aren't great. Well, this

17:48

is it like now that we've very

17:50

much in storyline Just

17:52

highlighted that came and take her and our

17:54

brothers because Cole said it like actual brother Something

17:58

along the lines of like legit intimate real

18:00

brothers, not that work stuff

18:02

brother. We

18:05

are, this is the rubber match. We've had

18:08

one incredible one, one that

18:10

wasn't so great. And

18:12

then this one could be great. I

18:15

think when I say this is a bathroom break match

18:17

for me, it's purely down to the heat rather than

18:19

the talent. I think Jay and Jimmy are both great.

18:21

I think as a tag team, they are truly one

18:23

of the best. I'm

18:27

surprised that I don't wanna see it. When

18:29

I think back to last summer, even last

18:33

year, the idea of

18:36

when it was Sami was in between Jimmy and

18:38

Jay in a way, there was a lot of

18:41

heat, a lot of energy where I was like, well, I'd be kind of

18:43

interested to see what they do with that story. And I found out what

18:45

they do with that story. And the answer is not a whole lot. No,

18:48

the story- Royal Rumble, they were together. I didn't

18:50

feel anything. No, well, yeah. I mean, they brought

18:52

them out one and two. That was supposed to

18:54

be the big moment. And they didn't feel like

18:56

the crowd was there for it. And

18:59

I think part of that is, as you'd say, they split the, SummerSlam,

19:02

Jimmy does the turn and

19:05

stops Jay from winning the world title. And

19:07

then they just did nothing. For

19:09

months and months and months and months and months,

19:11

Jay went to a different show, Jimmy. And the

19:13

reason for that is because they wanted to do

19:15

that as a Mania match. And it was like,

19:17

well, we've got like eight months until WrestleMania, so

19:20

let's just separate them away and then we'll bring

19:22

them back together. But even in bringing

19:24

them back together, they haven't done a great deal. It's just

19:26

Jimmy stopped him from winning the IC title. And

19:29

that's broadly about it. And

19:31

I haven't really had that segment.

19:34

Maybe that'll be different because SmackDown is Jay

19:37

versus Solo, but I

19:39

don't think Solo feels heated enough. Like that's why

19:41

I think that the set map sort of like

19:43

felt cold because I think all the great work

19:46

that Solo had in squashing John Cena has had

19:48

no follow up to it whatsoever. Yeah,

19:50

I mean, yeah. So it doesn't

19:52

feel hot. And I think to your point, you were saying

19:54

of like, you don't know why you want to see it.

19:57

I think there are some tag teams. I just don't want

19:59

to see few. I didn't want to

20:01

see Matt versus Jeff in a way. I

20:03

didn't want to see edge versus Christian

20:06

Because I liked them together. Yeah,

20:09

I wouldn't have wanted to see Baba Ray

20:11

versus D. Von, right? I didn't know I

20:13

agree I know and that's not coming from

20:15

a tag team rest should stay in their

20:17

lane. That's coming from I love tag team

20:19

Yeah, like I think they're great as a

20:21

unit looking at you know, I know for

20:23

a fact I wanted to see Gargano versus

20:25

champa. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so like, you know,

20:27

that's NXT's got proven history of that I

20:29

know I'd want to see Tyler bait versus

20:31

Pete done. We've got history of that I

20:33

know that works But there are some teams

20:35

that I see them together like I wouldn't

20:37

want to see the creeds have

20:39

a match Yeah, Julius versus Brutus

20:43

But Dax in cash I kind of wanted to

20:45

be sure Michael. Yeah, like in a way like

20:47

there are some teams I've got zero interest of

20:49

watching Austin through versus Grayson That's

20:52

sort of by the by I guess Kind of

20:55

the same with a new day Yeah I wouldn't I don't

20:57

want to see Xavier versus Kofi or is it I can

20:59

never want to see them Break up as

21:01

an act and I've got the same here with Jimmy and Jay

21:04

I think they'll have a decent match. Yeah, because

21:06

they're both really good at what they do But

21:09

I don't this it doesn't feel as heated as it

21:11

should do. Yeah, I mean I got to win I'd

21:13

go with Jay winning purely

21:16

because How

21:18

the story should go I think Narratively,

21:20

that's what you've set up And

21:23

it does exist outside of the bloodline thing it feels to

21:25

me So I can't even think well if you're gonna have

21:27

this win this win, then maybe this one should

21:29

be Yeah,

21:32

it did like they roll to the back and then

21:34

the rock was like we took this yesterday But like

21:37

the rock just attacked James like I'm off now. Yeah,

21:39

and the gym it really came back Yeah, yeah, so

21:41

they just sort of disappeared into the ether Up

21:44

next it is a trios match Bianca

21:47

bella jade kargil and Naomi taking on

21:49

damage control of Dakota Kai ask it

21:51

and Kyrie Sane so no women's tag titles

21:53

on the line this year the women's titles

21:55

being in this match But

21:57

jade kargil yikes in her wrestle a

22:00

year debut in what will be her first

22:03

match? Yeah. Because the

22:05

Royal Rumble is a match. Yeah. But

22:07

it's not like, you made your debut in the Royal

22:09

Rumble. This is your first match in WWE. I

22:12

said this on the SmackDown podcast that is

22:14

lost forever in time. I

22:16

thought this was a great debut for

22:19

Cargill on SmackDown. I thought it was

22:21

just beyond perfect how you did

22:24

it. You can ask for more.

22:26

She came out, incredible presentation, kind of very

22:28

short, simple promo that told you, this is

22:30

who my character is, and this is what

22:32

I look like, and this is why you

22:34

should pay attention to me. And

22:36

then she came out in the main event and

22:39

has inserted herself into a storyline

22:41

that involves Bianca Belair, involves the

22:43

Women's Championships, the Women's Tag Team

22:45

Championships, involves the returning Kairi Sane

22:48

and the returning Naomi, technically

22:50

involves Bayley and Io Sky, the

22:52

Women's World Champion. So you couldn't

22:54

have asked for more of a

22:56

huge push for Jade Cargill opening

22:58

doors. And I'll tell you, Laurie's

23:00

picked now. He's going for Team

23:02

Good Guy. Yeah. And

23:05

that would keep up Bianca's undefeated

23:07

WrestleMania. I mean,

23:09

I'm a Team Good Guy as well, I completely agree. My

23:12

thing with Jade was that, do you

23:15

remember when Cody did the Cody Vader

23:17

entrance on like the Raw After Mania

23:19

and they had to build his little

23:21

thing, and then he got the wide shot

23:24

of it. Or like when Edge is doing Brood Edge entrance

23:26

and he's got his own little stage as well. And it

23:28

looks a bit funny when it's like cool on camera, but

23:30

then you see the live crowd shots and it's not as

23:32

cool. Jade's entrance was almost cooler

23:34

in the live shot. Yeah.

23:37

I thought every ounce of

23:39

her presentation was fantastic. I did see

23:42

a couple of people, and some people tweeted me, because

23:45

I posted that this was just incredible. I was watching

23:47

it live at the time and I was like out

23:49

loud, just a gape. Yes.

23:52

And I showed it to my girlfriend

23:54

the next morning and she, not a

23:56

wrestling fan, was like, whoa, like she

23:58

like super responded. Yes, it's gotta.

24:03

I did see some people though, because I'm like, well,

24:05

this is universally praised. I saw some people being like,

24:07

I feel like there's no, she's just shoved in

24:10

there with no involvement and there's no, you know,

24:12

whatever. And like, this is a waste of Jade

24:14

on her first WrestleMania. I couldn't disagree more. I

24:16

can see how if you want to see Jade

24:18

versus Bianca immediately, you would consider that to be

24:21

a wasted

24:24

opportunity. But this is your chance

24:26

to, as you say, maintain

24:28

Bianca's undefeated streak of WrestleMania, put

24:30

Jade over as a game changing

24:32

star, not to use an internet

24:34

pod, but give

24:38

them also the groundwork, the foundation to be able

24:40

to tell a story between Bianca and Jade, you

24:43

know, they teamed together really well. And there was

24:45

that moment in the Royal Rumble where they stood

24:47

opposite each other. I want more moments of Bianca

24:49

and Jade together to make

24:52

me salivate for the moment that they oppose. I

24:56

completely agree with you. The other thing is, I

24:58

mean, Sat talked about this on the SmackDown podcast,

25:00

Lost to Time, but we thought about it on

25:02

yesterday's Royal Podcast, but

25:05

it's because our internet connection was so bad.

25:07

But this is a match.

25:15

It's a perfect match to debut are in,

25:17

because this is a match that is specifically

25:19

designed to hide the negatives

25:21

and accentuate the positives. She

25:23

just needs to go in there and do three things. And

25:26

she'll look like a star doing them, as

25:28

opposed to possibly putting her out there in

25:30

a match with Bianca Belair that might expose

25:32

Jade Cargill. Like you don't want to do

25:34

that in her first match. You want to

25:36

do this kind of like what they did

25:39

with AEW, put her in a big Smokin'

25:41

Mirrors match with Shaquille O'Neal and Cody Rhodes

25:43

and all this sort of stuff and tables

25:45

and plunder and whatnot, because that hides the

25:47

negatives and accentuates the positives. You know who

25:49

else is this with? Ronda Rousey. You

25:51

know who else may have vented the rest of

25:54

the main in the very next year, Ronda Rousey.

25:56

Like that is what this moment can be. And

25:58

also to... to see

26:01

what both Bianca and

26:03

Jade have said about Naomi. I

26:05

don't want to remove Naomi from this story because

26:07

I think everyone's jumping straight into Jade and Bianca

26:09

for obvious reasons. But Naomi,

26:12

I had worried that was gonna sort

26:14

of disappear a little bit. And after

26:16

the rumble return, that kind of had

26:18

happened a little bit. Knowing

26:20

what Jade and Bianca see Naomi

26:23

as being and how they all relate to each other

26:25

is really lovely to see them all have this kind

26:27

of moment together. And Naomi

26:29

to make this return and be on this grand stage

26:31

as well as part of that team. None of that

26:33

is to hide away from how great

26:35

I think damage control can be. But

26:39

yeah, I think it's team good guy. I

26:41

think as a team, they've lost a lot

26:43

of staff there. That's it. That's why it can

26:45

be. Hold

26:57

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our penultimate match for night one, Latino

27:33

World Order of Rey Mysterio and Dragon Lee

27:38

are taking on Santos Escobar and Dirty Dominic Mysterio.

27:41

Talk about a storyline that just happened. I'm not sure. I'm

27:43

not sure. I'm not sure. I'm

27:46

not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

27:48

I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

27:50

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm

27:52

not sure. I'm not sure. Talk

27:55

about a storyline that just was out of nowhere. Out

27:58

of nowhere. and

28:00

Sansos stuff's been building for a while. I

28:02

mean more just, Dominik just got inserted into

28:04

this storyline, so two weeks out from WrestleMania

28:06

it was like, and Dominik's his dad again,

28:09

and then he's interfering in matches. Yeah, for

28:12

me, that one makes more sense than Dragon Lee.

28:14

I, well Dragon Lee, face Sansos

28:16

at Crown Jewel. Yeah, he's done that

28:19

already. I guess Bad Bunny wasn't available.

28:23

For this tattoo. There's a Carlito right there.

28:25

I can't really think of a Carlito. The

28:27

crowd was so hyped for it. Well, it

28:29

was right there. Yeah, and

28:32

choices. But look,

28:35

none of that is to discount Dragon Lee, who I think

28:37

is fantastic. But I've

28:39

sort of seen this. This wasn't the

28:41

most exciting option for me. This is

28:43

my pierce break match. Right, I

28:45

think that's fair. I think it'll be good. I think it'll be

28:48

fun. But I

28:50

don't, I really know what

28:52

you do, because Sansos is

28:54

kind of doing well in

28:57

his role, and needs to

28:59

move past this bit to

29:01

continue on with his next adventure. But

29:04

it's WrestleMania, you want the good guys to win. So I don't know, I

29:07

don't really know what to, I'm just gonna go with, I'm gonna go with

29:09

LWA. Yes. Just

29:12

allow Rey Mysterio to pass it to us, Dragon Lee.

29:14

There's been all that conversation where he's the next masked

29:17

luchador star to be the standard

29:19

bearer. So this

29:21

will be a nice place for that to happen. Laurie's

29:24

gone with Sansos and Dom, which I don't

29:26

think is a bad choice. I, in my WrestleLeague picks, will

29:28

be going with Latino World Order. Yeah. And

29:31

that's kind of because, spoilers, what I think will happen

29:33

in the main event. I think you

29:35

wanna give your crowd your happy

29:38

moments with the legends, Legend

29:40

gets the win on WrestleMania, because

29:42

of, I think, what is gonna happen in

29:45

the main event. And let's get to

29:47

that main event. It does have ramifications

29:49

for the following night. It is the

29:51

bloodline of the Rockin' Roman Reigns taken

29:53

on Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins. If

29:55

Rhodes and Rollins win, all members of

29:57

the bloodline will be barred from ringside

29:59

during the- Night 2 main event,

30:01

but if the Bloodline win, the

30:03

match on Night 2 will be

30:05

held under Bloodline rules. Yeah. Yeah.

30:09

So, I can tell

30:11

you Laurie has gone

30:13

for Cody and Seth. Interesting.

30:16

I am going Bloodline.

30:20

Yeah, I think this is your... Everyone

30:22

has been talking about how last year is

30:25

Infinity War and then this one is Endgame.

30:27

If I may, this is tonight's...

30:30

Oh, sorry, tonight. Night 1 is

30:32

your Empire Strikes Back and

30:34

Night 2 will be your Return of the Jedi.

30:38

Because we're going to find out the Rock is Cody's father?

30:41

Well, that's obviously the... It was never

30:43

dusty all along. Yeah. And what

30:45

I mean is just like, I think this is the

30:48

darkest before the dawn and

30:50

this is the Bloodline win. Cody

30:52

and Seth, I also think, this is my big

30:55

prediction, Rock pins Cody

30:59

to set up what's happening on Night 2.

31:03

Interesting. Yeah. Credentialing

31:05

Cody, sad Seth.

31:07

So, my argument...

31:11

I think the Bloodline win this too because I

31:13

think that allows for what we... I think that's

31:16

what's been set up elsewhere. My

31:18

argument for Laurie's pick of

31:20

Seth and Cody winning is that you

31:22

want your world champion to go into

31:25

his match looking good. So, maybe

31:27

Seth gets a pin on Rock. I don't think

31:30

Roman gets pinned the night before if you want the belt

31:32

coming off, Roman. Absolutely not. I

31:34

just think if I'm looking at all my options and

31:37

how I think the rest of the weekend is going

31:39

to go, logically speaking, Bloodline win. I hadn't thought about

31:41

the Rock pinning Cody. I

31:44

imagined Rock pinning Seth because Rock and Seth have had

31:46

a bit back and forth. I thought they've laid that

31:48

quite well. And

31:51

again, if Seth were to get the win, I would imagine Seth

31:53

pinning Rock. Like I said, so I think

31:55

that's going to be the combination that ends it.

31:58

I do think that the... showcase

32:02

of what happens

32:04

when the bloodline rules are in effect, which

32:07

was the tableau that closed rule last Monday.

32:12

That was the one

32:14

that sort of indicated to me,

32:17

right, this is going to be bloodline

32:19

rules so that you've had

32:21

a taste of it and now you know

32:23

Cody what to overcome. That'll lean into my

32:25

9-2 predictions. So I see bloodline winning this

32:27

one. I don't disagree with what Laurie has

32:29

said in terms of why he's picked it

32:31

and it ties into what you were saying

32:33

there is that, well you can't pin Roman

32:36

because he is the guy who's only been

32:38

pinned once in these four

32:40

years or whatever it is. You can't pin The

32:44

Rock, he's just come back and he's The Rock.

32:47

You don't really want to pin Cody because

32:49

he's going for the main title on night

32:51

two and you don't really want to pin

32:53

Seth because he's

32:55

the world champion and he's going to be facing Drew

32:57

the following night for the world title. It

33:00

is a match where really you don't want to be pinning

33:02

any of them. But I think for

33:04

me with some capital D drama, Rock

33:07

pinning Cody is capital D drama.

33:09

In a world

33:12

where wins and losses don't matter, which WWE

33:15

tell us a lot, in a world where

33:17

wins and losses do not matter, pinning

33:20

Cody is the best for

33:22

drama. Interesting, I

33:24

don't want to see it. Well

33:29

I mean you're going to be there for night one live

33:31

reaction. So imagine my destiny. Crestfall

33:36

and Dan. So

33:38

let's move into night two. I

33:41

will be giving you, I mean we'll get

33:43

your predictions for this and I'll

33:45

give Seth's predictions on this. I'm

33:47

not going to change arms for night two because.

33:51

We'll get Laurie's predictions for night two as

33:53

well but because I've got the PNGs I

33:55

don't want things too cluttered. Right. Here's

33:58

something I'm going to reset the PNG. with

34:00

a wave of my hands and as thanks

34:03

to editorialist. But we'll

34:05

get your predictions for Night 2,

34:07

should you retain? But if we

34:09

go into with Laurie on Night 2, we'll have a different

34:11

set of predictions which will go over on the live reactions.

34:14

So let's kick things off on

34:17

Night 2 with Seth vs Drew

34:19

for the World Heavyweight Championship with

34:21

CM Punk on commentary.

34:24

Again, I had

34:28

written this one off ages ago, being like, this

34:30

is how, this is the moment you do it.

34:32

And then little bits and bobs they did during

34:35

the storyline made me go, oh, maybe you do

34:37

keep it on Seth for a little bit longer.

34:40

But no, I'm going to pick Drew. I'm going to commit to

34:42

Drew. And

34:46

I'm quite intrigued by the announcement

34:48

that has come about

34:51

Glasgow because

34:53

Drew McIntyre walking into Glasgow with his championship

34:55

feels like a big moment. Sure does. But

34:58

it's Rhea Ripley in Australia. And I would

35:00

rather that than him winning Glasgow, if that

35:02

makes sense. So I feel like given the

35:04

belt now, because it

35:07

becomes the underdog story. And

35:09

I think they've done a really masterful job of making

35:11

this underdog story of I never got my moment, I

35:13

now really want my moment. The biggest

35:15

heel run he's ever had kind of thing.

35:18

I think the argument you could make of you

35:21

could have him going into Clash of the

35:23

Castle to looking to win the belt because

35:25

he didn't get that moment at Clash of

35:27

the Castle 1. But you've kind of done

35:29

that story already. So I agree with you.

35:31

Him going in as champion, I think gives

35:33

you more Rhea Ripley elimination chamber vibes. You

35:37

could do a whole Braveheart thing trying to free us

35:39

from CM Punk. If he's a champion, he's going to-

35:42

Drew versus Punk at Clash of the

35:44

Castle. If Punk is better

35:46

by then. He did say in their

35:48

Helwani interview that he is like so

35:50

healing up quicker. Get into this. Because

35:54

there are so many things to talk about with that interview.

35:56

But one of the things I thought is how often?

36:00

Punk talked about and how regularly he showed, how good

36:02

he is at finding that line

36:04

between real and fake, right? And the shooting

36:07

and work stuff.

36:10

He might be healing faster than the other one, but

36:13

I reckon at WrestleMania, Drew's gonna do something to it to

36:15

keep him out just a little bit longer in storyline. Yeah,

36:17

because you know, the tea that we've had him back a

36:19

couple of times. Yeah,

36:22

I really I just I've just saw myself

36:24

on the idea of Drew, Drew McIntyre acting

36:26

all Braveheart, you know, we'll never take

36:28

off freedom off freedom away from a wrestling world with

36:30

him. But this is my final moment to bury you.

36:33

I don't know. I think Drew McIntyre is gonna win it. I

36:35

think he's gonna be on his top form as

36:37

he has been his whole run. And I

36:40

love that for him. Seth is

36:42

also going for Drew McIntyre. Sorry, Seth

36:44

is going for Drew McIntyre. Well, yeah,

36:47

he is at WrestleMania. Yeah, he's also

36:49

going for him and Seth has picked.

36:51

Yeah, Drew McIntyre. No one noticed.

36:53

Ellis could fix

36:55

that in the edit. Yeah. Yeah, he's going

36:58

through. I'm also going through in my Wrestle

37:00

League predictions. I think this is Drew's match

37:02

to win. I think this Seth

37:04

run has been

37:07

fine for the most part. I think we are

37:10

ready for the next chapter of this belt. And

37:12

I think Drew is that next chapter. I also

37:14

think he's for sure resigning. I

37:16

don't I think the Glasgow money has

37:18

probably afforded him a new contract. He

37:21

is so close to Glasgow. Up

37:24

next for the WWE Women's Championship.

37:26

It is Io Sky taking on

37:28

the 2024 Royal Rumble

37:30

winner. Not that she's ever announced as such

37:33

on like Cody Rose against it after all

37:35

the time. Bayley. The

37:37

most disrespected person in WWE.

37:39

I completely agree. I'm really

37:42

disappointed in this build. Me

37:45

too. I don't know if it's

37:47

because they had a plan to involve Sasha

37:49

that went wrong or rather

37:51

didn't come to fruition that and that made the writers

37:53

room go a little bit cold on the angle. I

37:55

don't know if it's just because they realized

37:58

that they. had

38:00

more work to do to

38:03

move Bailey from heel

38:06

to face and so

38:08

they sort of plotted it out a bit

38:10

further. They've done their plotting a little bit wrong.

38:12

Whatever reason I feel cold. Yes, that's it. And

38:14

actually what Bianca has been talking about of like,

38:17

you don't get to just turn on them

38:19

and suddenly everything's fine. That's way more compelling.

38:23

So I don't know with this one now. I

38:25

would, I'm going to

38:27

pick Bailey because it feels like a

38:29

good moment for it. But

38:33

if you want damage control to come out looking not

38:37

the worst when they've got the tag team titles, maybe EO does retain.

38:39

Actually I'm going to change my mind. I'm going to have it here

38:41

retain. Oh, interesting. I'm

38:43

going to have it here retain and have it be

38:45

Bailey's moment that starts her realizing she's got to

38:47

go on a redemption journey. It's not going

38:49

to be that I've got

38:51

Bailey in my Wrestle league predictions.

38:54

I've also got the return of the hugger theme. That's

38:57

what I mean. I don't think we're there. I

38:59

thought we'd end up there. I when, when we

39:03

were thinking about things that might go ahead and when

39:05

we were predicting Royal Rumble, I was like, right, we

39:07

have several months now to begin this redemptive journey. And

39:10

Bailey realizes that they're not her friends. She

39:12

needs to find new friends. She needs to

39:14

find herself, blah, blah, blah. I've had damage

39:16

control. And then we get the hugger theme

39:18

returns at no WrestleMania. I don't

39:21

think the storyline has earned that yet. It's

39:23

kind of like a Superman. They

39:25

did not earn the death of Superman. Exactly. I think,

39:27

I think that moment when they come back, I think

39:30

it's going to be incredible. I think it should have

39:32

happened at this WrestleMania, but we aren't there. So

39:34

I think save it for a little bit down the line. And

39:39

Bailey going to Bianca with her tail between her legs and saying, I

39:41

know I have a lot more. Maybe

39:44

she wins it at SummerSlam. I don't know. I just

39:46

think I think now that I've taught myself out of

39:48

it. I think I think if I think

39:50

you're pretty bad with a banana, I'm sticking with Bailey.

39:52

Yeah. Well, that's that. That is

39:54

going for Bailey. Cool. So

39:57

as our first big difference of the evening

39:59

for night. to up next in

40:02

a match that I think some people are

40:04

pretty down on. Here's my toilet break for

40:06

night two. I've got

40:08

I've got two then. Yeah, I have two

40:11

on night two. Yeah, really long queue. It's

40:14

LA night versus AJ Styles. I

40:17

said at Crown Jewel once Logan Paul won

40:19

that US title. I was like, oh, this

40:21

perfectly sets up Logan versus LA night at

40:24

WrestleMania. You can give LA night that big

40:26

WrestleMania. And I think it says a lot

40:28

about how LA night

40:31

versus AJ Styles should feel like a really big

40:33

deal because it's AJ Styles. He's like,

40:35

it's one of my favorite wrestlers ever. It should

40:37

feel like this is a big WrestleMania moment, but

40:40

this feels like it's a fast lane match as

40:42

opposed to a WrestleMania. Absolutely. I was going to

40:44

say the exact same thing. It feels like a

40:46

be pay-per-view build. Yeah. And I could like to

40:48

be clear, I've enjoyed some of the build. I

40:50

like how invasion thing was quite fun big time.

40:52

And I liked the silliness of the, of the

40:54

Smackdown one where he's pretending to be a security

40:56

model. Where's Gene Parmesan from the development? Exactly. I

40:58

thought like

41:01

it was, it was a bit silly. It's not WrestleMania.

41:03

Yeah. It's not WrestleMania for AJ Styles, but I enjoyed

41:05

it. And I think the match will be good. I

41:07

just think it feels like an outlier on this card.

41:09

I think so too. I'm going to go with LA

41:11

night. Let's have a look.

41:13

Yes. That's also gone for LA night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

41:16

Poor old AJ. Yeah. He always

41:18

has a bad WrestleMania does AJ.

41:21

AJ and Oscar. Those are the

41:23

ones who struggle. Yeah. Logan Paul

41:25

defends that United States championship in

41:27

a triple threat with Randy Orton

41:29

and Kevin Owens. Yeah.

41:32

I feel like the returning Randy Orton kind of

41:34

pushed LA night out of this position. I

41:36

think the reaction to the returning Randy

41:38

Orton did, I think the, not just that he

41:40

got the big pop on the night, but it

41:43

was sustained. And it looks like he's got new

41:45

lease on life. I think it looks like the,

41:47

there's a perfect meeting of his

41:49

return, his energy, his passion for his return after thinking

41:51

he was maybe never going to get it again. And

41:54

the crowd's continued response for

41:56

him have made

41:58

a moment where it's like, I

42:01

can tell you that set has gone for He's

42:04

gone for Logan Paul to retain here

42:06

in my Wrestle League predictions. I'm doing

42:08

the same I think all and Owens

42:10

almost cancel each other out. I Know

42:14

what you mean and I don't think that

42:17

I don't think people are clamoring for us champ Randy

42:20

Orton and I don't know what it does

42:22

for Owens. I yeah, I don't think it does anything for Owens

42:25

But I am gonna go with Randy because

42:27

I think As

42:31

a welcome back. Thank you. Good

42:33

to have you back John Cena

42:35

and WrestleMania 31 kind of United States title

42:37

win So

42:40

I'm picking Randy for that reason very

42:42

very interesting here is my second piss

42:44

match It is apparently the

42:46

pride is what they called that officially. I

42:48

don't know. It's what if there's a Wikipedia

42:51

Wikipedia says a lot of things I have

42:54

a real bug bear with people giving people

42:56

names that aren't official Like when

42:58

when when you kept calling the New Cat Republic

43:00

British Strong Style, which I know is what they

43:03

were But it wasn't

43:05

on screen. Yeah, so it

43:09

wasn't their name these

43:11

guys aren't the pride unless it's been if it's

43:13

been said on screen crack on but Otherwise,

43:16

we're just assigning a name to them I'm pretty sure

43:18

in the match graphic the match graphic will have been

43:20

on screen and into this edits But as we're recording

43:22

this I'm pretty sure on the match graphic. It just

43:24

says Bobby Lashley on the street profits So that's what

43:26

their name is to me if if if I'm wrong

43:28

I'll hold my hands up, but I

43:30

don't like it until it's on screen

43:33

But anyway, it is Bobby Lashley and

43:35

Angelo Dawkins a Montes Ford taking on

43:37

the final testament of carrying cross acheum

43:39

and razor I

43:41

thought there was gonna be two faction

43:43

warfare matches because there's like lwO versus

43:45

legato delfantasma and they sort of Insert, you know,

43:48

they have like electro come in to be like

43:50

Oh, and that's these are the innovative us the

43:52

lecture part of this Eight

43:54

person tag match you do and then when

43:56

they had be fab join.

43:58

Yeah, and Ashley's crew

44:00

and I was like, oh, and that's

44:02

your B-Fab and Scarlet moments in your

44:04

eight-person tag match. Who do you think

44:06

is there? Who is the Pride's... Paul

44:09

Ellerring. Paul Ellerring. It's Bobby

44:11

Lashley's left arm, which I think is the

44:14

manager of the group. It's

44:16

so massive, it's its own person. Fair enough,

44:18

fair enough. But yeah, it's a Trios match.

44:20

I feel as though for your street fight,

44:22

it had been reported by Dave Meltzer ahead

44:24

of time, but it's gonna be Lashley, yeah,

44:26

the Pride versus the Final Testament. Who've

44:28

you got? Well,

44:30

first of all, I'm astonished this match is on the

44:33

card, because I could have sworn the other day I

44:35

heard Carrie-and-Cross screaming that no one was getting a WrestleMania.

44:37

I did say that. Another one. Why would

44:39

you want that Carrie? You thought you want to be on WrestleMania.

44:41

You took us out of it, so now we're gonna take you

44:43

out of it, something I don't know, but whatever.

44:49

Final Testament? I think the

44:51

Pride can... I think Bobby

44:53

Lashley and the Street Profits can... They

44:56

can take the loss and Carrie-and-Cross,

44:59

in particular, of the Final

45:02

Testament can't. I think

45:04

if he's got any hope of

45:06

stopping Floundering, giving him a big

45:08

win. Yeah. I'd say big with

45:10

a small B. Yeah, I mean, it's

45:13

nice that Lashley got on the WrestleMania card this

45:15

year. Finally, yeah. Finally, yeah, the Final Testament, but

45:18

this doesn't feel like the big Bobby...

45:20

Bobby Lashley feels like Randy Orton in

45:22

the WrestleMania 27 through 29 phase

45:24

of his career, where he's just like, Oh, you've got a

45:26

match with Kane? Yeah.

45:28

Alright, cool. What else we're doing? You're

45:31

teaming with The Big Show and Sheamus against The Shield? Alright,

45:34

yeah, but what else have we done? Punk

45:38

and the new Nexus, a band from

45:40

Ringside. I was like, alright, can

45:42

I have something bigger than this? I feel like this

45:44

is where Bobby Lashley is at the moment. I

45:48

think I had to pick Lashley and Crew. Yeah.

45:50

But I think you're right, though. Karrion Kross

45:53

needs this more than Lashley does. Yeah. Because

45:55

this group ain't getting over it. And this

45:57

Karrion Kross... I would argue, I think... he's

45:59

been the biggest flop of the Triple H

46:02

era. Yeah, I think I'd agree with the

46:04

most pushes. If I can be, if I

46:07

can be honest, I don't think the last

46:09

three Street Profits thing has sung either. I think it

46:11

did at the beginning. I think there was a real

46:13

look change, a real attitude change, a real

46:15

energy change. I was like, oh, this is

46:17

slick. They've needed it for a little while. They're now

46:19

just the Street Profits again. Like, it's not like

46:22

they've developed or moved anywhere else. Yeah, their characters

46:24

haven't changed at all. No. And the only B-Fab

46:26

adds nothing to this. Yeah, and that's not disrespect

46:29

to B-Fab either. I just don't, I

46:32

don't care about this. Well,

46:35

but I know that has

46:37

gone for Lashley and mates. Yeah, that's that's that's gone. However,

46:39

I know you do

46:42

care about the main event. Wow.

46:45

It is a TVT match because

46:47

it may be a straight singles match with

46:50

no bloodline or it'll be a bloodline rules

46:52

match of Roman

46:54

Reigns defending the Universal

46:56

Championship against Cody Rhodes.

47:01

I've gone for Cody Rhodes. I

47:03

mean, that's gone for Cody here. I need

47:05

it to be Cody Rhodes. I get the

47:09

arguments of one

47:12

more year. I'm

47:15

not saying I agree with it. You said you get

47:17

it. I get it. I get an argument.

47:22

Okay, I small G get it. I

47:26

small G gets the argument, but I

47:28

wouldn't know. I think you have gone

47:30

too far now. Yeah. I thought last

47:32

year you were like, ah, you set

47:34

the time perfectly to do this. This

47:37

year I'm like, no, no, but seriously, though, this

47:39

time you have set this up too perfectly for

47:41

it not to be Cody Rhodes. I

47:43

think it has to be Cody

47:45

Rhodes this time. I'm willing

47:48

it to be Cody Rhodes this time. I'm

47:50

excited for it to be Cody Rhodes this

47:52

time. I think this is

47:55

Cody Rhodes' match. that

48:00

this is the Rocky 2? I thought

48:03

I'm not wrong. Yeah, how it goes. I'll

48:06

be honest, it's more Rocky 2 than Sami Zayn vs

48:08

Gunther. At least it's the same guy going against the

48:10

other same guy for the same belt. I also... I'm

48:14

not doing Rocky 2. You

48:16

know, Club Alang won a match

48:18

on Night 1. The

48:21

boxing rules. Of course it's Ivan

48:23

Horne. But maybe in Rocky 3

48:25

Hulk Hogan will be around. I want to say Club Alang there

48:27

as well. I mean Apollo Creed. I

48:30

just... I've

48:33

seen Spice World. Club Alang is Rocky

48:35

3. I... Rocky

48:38

3 is great. I see

48:40

all the movies. I

48:42

should see Rocky. No, no one

48:44

has said this until now. And I feel like it was

48:46

due. I...

48:50

Yeah, look. In hindsight, I'm looking

48:52

back at the last year. And

48:54

I think half of it was actually kind

48:57

of effective. The other half of it was

48:59

not. Do I think any of it needed to have the belt on Roman?

49:01

No. But they kept the belt on Roman. And

49:04

as a result, his dominance at Night

49:08

of Champions, when they did the tag

49:11

thing there, it was super interesting. I liked

49:13

that with the big turns, then money in the bank, and

49:16

then even going into SummerSlam, I was like, wow, this

49:18

has been really engaging. It's been a three month

49:20

great build. Yeah. And then

49:22

from that moment on, my belt. My belt's

49:24

a jump. Yeah. My belt's gone.

49:28

And... That's

49:30

what the belt of the rumble was. Poor.

49:32

Poor. I thought the

49:34

belt of the crown jewel was poor. I thought,

49:36

this has been good. This has been exquisite in

49:39

many different ways. Yeah. I completely agree with you. And

49:41

I know that a lot of people are pointing to

49:43

how good this has been as the justification of like,

49:45

ha ha ha. They shouldn't have put the belt on.

49:48

My counter to that is, remove

49:51

the rock. Right. I

49:54

don't think this has got the heat. Yeah.

49:56

Code... The rock has

49:58

got the heat. I think Cody

50:00

versus Rock, Rock versus Seth,

50:03

I think that is really well

50:05

heated. I don't think Roman

50:07

and Cody has the same level of heat.

50:09

I think there's less interest going into this

50:12

match than there is for the Night One

50:14

tag match. Yeah. So you remove Cody, sorry,

50:17

you remove Rock from this build, I

50:19

don't think that this justifies the decision

50:22

that was made last year. However,

50:24

this is the world we do live in,

50:26

so the Rock is in this, and the

50:28

Rock has been so good during all

50:30

of this, that it does make me go like, man,

50:32

totally the right call last year, because I think that

50:34

I'm so more excited for this match than I was

50:37

for last year's main event. I think when you then

50:39

look at everything on Reflection, you look at the whole

50:41

picture, you consider that counterfactual of the idea that when

50:43

they put him on it, put a belt on him

50:45

then, it does lead

50:47

me to think the time

50:50

is now. Time is now. When you

50:52

think about, as we sort of spoke about yesterday, Cody

50:55

getting that Austin-level reaction of

50:57

music hits, crowd loses their

51:00

mind on the end of Raw. That

51:03

almost, I thought the entire closing

51:05

segment of Raw kind of showed you the

51:07

kind of thing the crowd wants to see

51:09

in the WrestleMania main event. And

51:15

I just think it's the best move

51:17

for business. I don't almost like the phrasing

51:19

coming out of my mouth, but I was

51:21

watching before we came down to film this,

51:23

I was watching the Roman Reigns biography,

51:26

the A&E show. And

51:29

it starts with this scene-setting

51:33

montage narrated by him in a

51:35

way. And what he talks about

51:37

is how he's here to

51:39

make the most money. It's about

51:41

the business and making all this money. And

51:44

I think the way you

51:46

do that with Roman Reigns going forward, not

51:48

even talking about Cody, but I think you

51:50

make more money with Roman Reigns not having

51:52

that belt than you do with

51:54

him having that belt going forward. I think this

51:57

is your moment to capitalize, to

51:59

cement. a new era, a

52:01

new star, a new top dog

52:04

to show to talent all over

52:06

the world that you can do

52:08

what Cody did and still be

52:11

considered big not to

52:13

encourage everybody to leave the

52:15

opposite to encourage them to come to you because look what

52:17

happens when you come here. You could be

52:20

the biggest star in our company. And

52:23

then you get to play with the

52:26

fourth inning of to

52:28

use the baseball terminology that I don't understand

52:30

that Paul Heyman likes. You can begin this

52:32

new chapter for Roman Reigns. What is it

52:35

when Roman Reigns' mask has slipped? What is

52:37

it when greatness on a different level suddenly

52:39

goes down a level? Does he go away?

52:41

Does he come back at the... You could

52:44

do Cody Roman's three, a WrestleMania 4C1, but

52:46

with the roles reversed with Roman winning the Royal

52:48

Rumble. Absolutely. Like there's so much more money that

52:51

you can make on a business standpoint. If I'm

52:53

in that creative room, I'm

52:55

not leaving until I get my way. So

52:57

Cody's winning the belt. I

53:00

will be holding my breath the whole match

53:02

because I don't believe as I say it

53:04

because it didn't happen last year. And because

53:06

I've been burned by this company, that

53:08

is the other thing. And this will be my final point. As

53:12

a fan, there's only so much investment I can

53:14

give you before you don't show me your return

53:16

on my investment. If Cody loses the belt and

53:18

it's not even necessarily to do

53:20

with Cody, but if Roman

53:23

doesn't lose the belt at this stage,

53:26

I wonder if I'm going to get a return on my investment.

53:28

I'm not inclined to tune in anymore. I don't

53:30

think you're alone in that. And that is why I

53:32

feel like it has to be a Cody win. And

53:35

if I'm saying that, by the way, like

53:37

I'm someone who has the longest leash in the world. I

53:40

honestly, I think this has to be a

53:42

Cody win. I think you lose so much

53:44

good faith if you have Roman win here.

53:46

With that said, and

53:49

I know that Ollie's pitched this and I love

53:51

it because maybe I'm a bit of a chaos

53:53

gremlin, but I also think it adds more capital

53:55

D drama is that

53:57

Roman does pin Cody. And

54:01

there is a match restart element as a dusty

54:03

finish because I think

54:05

that does still rewards Yeah, those who have

54:07

invested in this because Cody does eventually win

54:09

Where Triple H gets back into the story

54:11

and he comes out and like no not

54:13

my company not now not WrestleMania 40 There's

54:15

40 years of WrestleMania. We're not doing it

54:17

this way Which

54:19

does make him a little bit Bret Hart at Starrcade 97 Which

54:21

didn't do wonders for Bret Hart or for that

54:23

match for that matter, but yeah, I mean

54:25

I think you don't want to Starrcade 97 You don't

54:28

want a dusty finish. You didn't like the

54:30

dusty finish. So I feel like it's not

54:32

honoring the memory But I understand that but

54:35

Cody came in and his first promo was

54:37

that story? Yeah of my dad thought he'd

54:39

won the world title and he hadn't Just

54:43

like that as a full circle

54:45

thing is quite nice It's quite

54:47

poetic But by point still the

54:49

sand I want WrestleMania 42 end

54:51

with Cody holding aloft that belt

54:54

Who better I've changed my mind the bloodline of

54:56

losing on that one said it could be

54:58

a clean match no interference No nonsense. It's

55:00

all fine. So you're going with Cody Cody's

55:02

when sat has gone with Cody as well

55:04

I'm going with Cody not that

55:06

it matters to do much But the world I think the

55:08

world is going with Cody, but I think there will be

55:11

something like The best

55:13

thing to do will be but I think those people

55:15

are wrong. I think they're mean But

55:19

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