0:00

All that realization came up, like right

0:02

at the top of that to the top of the rope, when

0:04

I was like standing up tall and you're seeing

0:06

all the people start standing up with me. It

0:08

was like it was like coming to a realization to the

0:10

people as well, the swell of

0:12

like emotion of like wow, I'm here, now

0:17

you're made.

0:18

Even introducing the

0:20

hosts'm wrestling

0:22

within Freddy Chef Died and

0:25

Furready Frience Tunor.

0:29

Welcome back, everybody.

0:30

Welcome to a brand new episode of Wrestling

0:32

with Freddy with me as always his Jeff I. We

0:34

have an amazing guest today. That's why I'm speaking so quickly

0:36

so we get as much time as possible. Let's

0:38

start the show,

0:43

all right, everybody, We have a

0:45

fantastic guest today. He

0:48

is fresh off his victory at

0:50

AW Dynasty. We have the

0:52

ae W World Champion,

0:56

Swerved Strickland, who on this very

0:58

show prophesied this

1:00

very event and he's with us now.

1:02

Welcome back to the show. How are you, sir? Thank

1:04

you very much, Thank you for having me.

1:06

It's honestly, it still feels weird

1:08

hearing the title of AW World Champion

1:10

right now. Still feeling I'm not getting used to say

1:12

yet, but I got good after it.

1:14

We're not surprised. We've been waiting for it, baby,

1:16

We're all used to it already.

1:18

Amazing. I want to start with this.

1:21

You had your match with Samoa Joe Well

1:23

I just got to meet in Chicago, and he's like the nicest

1:25

dude ever. You just you're

1:28

in the match, it's the

1:30

finish, You're on top,

1:33

the refs counting to three. What

1:36

the hell's going through your head at that moment? Are

1:38

you still in it in that moment? Or are

1:40

you already going Holy shit?

1:43

It happened.

1:44

Everything I said just came true.

1:47

It was it was like if you watch the finish

1:50

of the match again, all that realization

1:52

came up, like right at the top of that to the top

1:55

of the rope when I was like standing up tall and

1:57

you're seeing all the people start standing up with me.

2:00

It's like they were ready to. It was

2:02

like it was like comeing too a realization to the people

2:04

as well, and it was like the

2:07

swell of like emotion of like wow, I'm here,

2:10

Like I don't even like grab my head at the top.

2:12

It's just like I can't believe this. I

2:15

might be able to do this hitting

2:17

the stop. First off, the fact that this show

2:19

was like four hours and those people were still there,

2:22

like just like it

2:24

didn't feel like they were ready to watch a performance. They're ready

2:26

to see victory. They were ready

2:28

for that home team to win. And

2:30

that's the emotion I kind of wanted to carry on

2:33

to that. It's like, you're

2:35

not going to outperform well last bring and Brian Danielsen

2:37

and hats off to them. That's impossible

2:40

task as it is, but it's

2:42

just like, Okay, what kind of a different emotion

2:44

that we can evoke that

2:47

the rest of the show is not able to.

2:49

And then I feel like that we successfully

2:52

achieved that in itself.

2:54

And Joe was like the perfect like tighten

2:56

of a villain and the opposite

3:01

to be put in that place to do that,

3:03

you know what I mean? Like I

3:05

feel like the like

3:07

hitting that three count, it was like history

3:10

is made.

3:10

We did it.

3:11

It was really, it was really special, and really I

3:14

made my mark in history. And I feel like everybody gets

3:16

into wrestling to try to do that, to try to make their

3:18

mark in the business some way somehow.

3:20

I feel like, now I did it. I did

3:22

it. My way, and I did it.

3:24

I believe in myself and myself and like

3:27

not changing, not switching up, not conforming.

3:29

I did it exactly how I said I was

3:31

going to do it. The people believed in it.

3:34

You talked about the Osprey Danielson

3:36

match. You know, there's such different matches

3:38

when you look at them from any sort of like analysis

3:41

point of view, right, because they're

3:43

both special, But yours was much more narrative

3:46

driven. It was much more story driven.

3:48

Joe had planned this seed the

3:50

week before about about you

3:53

maybe choking in these big moments

3:55

and not being able to trying to put some sort

3:57

of doubt in your mind, which I think makes

4:00

the end of that match so much more special.

4:02

Like you said, when you climb up on the turnbuckle

4:04

and it's like, no, there will

4:07

be no choking tonight. There will only

4:09

be stomping on your.

4:10

Chest, which is funny because I almost lost by

4:12

getting choked out.

4:13

So kind of parallels for

4:16

sure.

4:17

Where are you currently finding inspiration

4:21

story wise professionally? Are you looking

4:23

back at the old stuff?

4:26

Do you look overseas? Are you looking

4:28

at current stuff? Is it coming from movies,

4:30

comic books? Is it a combination of everything

4:33

where you find an inspiration for you

4:35

your character.

4:35

Currently, I would honestly say, I'm painting

4:38

with another blank canvas again.

4:40

And so I'm right now, I'm just gathering my tools.

4:43

I'm gathering my instruments

4:46

to start painting this iteration

4:48

of Swerve. It's

4:50

like we seem Swerve as like that hungry

4:53

predatorial figure of

4:55

like I'm hunting prey to try to get to

4:57

where I need to go, and I'm taking out every other

5:00

predator in the in the kingdom and the animal

5:02

kingdom to try to get there. Now

5:04

it's like, okay, you're at the top of the mountain. Where do we

5:07

how do we see him?

5:08

Now?

5:08

It's like, okay, now we gotta everything

5:11

we built. We got to kind of scrap that a

5:13

little bit, but we kind

5:15

of want to keep those core things that made

5:17

me who I am, Like I'm still

5:19

like the guy. There

5:21

still has to be a danger about me. And

5:24

when I'm and when I'm like faced

5:26

with danger, like when I'm faced with like threat,

5:29

I come back ten times harder

5:31

because that's the kind of that's what got me to

5:34

where I am. You know, So

5:36

now right now with Christian coming up with double

5:38

Nothing, man like I found

5:40

my threat. I feel like Swerve's

5:43

character always finds his motivation

5:45

is inspiration through threat and danger.

5:48

When he's faced with it, that's where

5:50

the things like start churning a little bit, and

5:52

that's where the narrative starts being

5:54

created. So right now I feel like I've swiped

5:56

it clean. The

5:59

Patriarch and Christian and then all them came through.

6:01

They set the tone. Now it's like, hmm,

6:04

now I gotta start painting my campus again. Now

6:06

we got to use different instruments

6:09

though in different utensils to really

6:11

start carving in different like

6:13

peace.

6:14

It's it's easy to want to beat the hell out

6:16

of Christian easy. He's quick to motivate.

6:19

Yeah, it's quick, but it's

6:21

like doubling up is like maybe like three weeks away.

6:24

So like, we gotta paint. We gotta

6:26

get this art going.

6:28

Jeff, go ahead, man, I know I've been hugging all this.

6:30

Yeah, it's okay. We're both big Swerve

6:32

marks. This happens. You know, this

6:34

isn't the same when we had some of these other creeps

6:36

on.

6:37

This is our guy. They I appreciate you guys.

6:39

Last time you hear you told us about turning down

6:41

opportunities because you wanted to solely

6:43

focus on the AW World Championship,

6:46

and now you're the champion of AEW

6:49

It sounds so sweet to say, how do

6:51

you handle that? And also are you bringing the belt

6:53

everywhere you go? And if not, why

6:55

not?

6:56

I think that's what people want

6:59

to see.

6:59

They want to see why what

7:02

makes this person important walking into parties

7:04

like that?

7:05

What like why should we pay attention

7:07

to them?

7:08

Why is this like why like in

7:10

those kind of like circles, it's like not wrestling

7:12

circles either, and that's where

7:14

like we need to be. That's where I

7:17

need to be now. You know, I kind of got to like

7:19

like and it's cool. I love like going to the conventions

7:21

and signings and even independent shows.

7:24

It's just like, you know, the places that

7:26

built me. You know, this is the people

7:28

that supported me, and you want to give back to those people

7:31

and like understand that you're

7:33

there because their investment and you continued

7:36

over all these years, you know, and you kind.

7:38

Of want to pay them back for that.

7:39

They want to if you want to feel their

7:42

their investment in you was

7:44

worth it, so coming

7:47

back and doing those things in the conventions. But also like

7:49

now it's like the crossover stage of like, why

7:53

is what makes this championship,

7:55

this person so important to

7:57

the landscape of the world.

8:13

How much pressure do you feel

8:16

as a champion to help

8:18

bring professional wrestling to

8:21

the mainstream and to make it not so

8:23

much alternative entertainment but mainstream

8:26

entertainment.

8:27

Do you feel pressure to do that?

8:28

Or is it just if I'm allowed to paint

8:31

my picture on this canvas, I'll make sure

8:33

people see it, Like, how do you approach that?

8:38

Right?

8:38

Lately, I've kind of been cooking up

8:40

things, even before the World Championship,

8:43

I've been cooking up things, and I've been planting seeds

8:46

to see around

8:48

this time is where they start growing and sprouting.

8:52

So now it's just like, Okay, we've been in the making

8:54

of for a while, and we've been like with

8:56

investors, We've been with

8:59

Oscar winners, been cooking

9:01

with like Grammy winners

9:03

and all these guys and all these people in

9:05

male, female and all these groups.

9:07

Now it's like, all right, we cashed out.

9:10

Here we are and we told

9:12

you and once again we told them,

9:14

we gave them a reason to invest.

9:16

Now here's the investment paying off. We

9:19

told you.

9:19

We were going to honor our word. Here we are

9:22

successful. Aw's

9:24

first African American World Champion, like

9:26

we said. And now it's like, Okay,

9:30

now we see the vision. Now those people

9:32

see the value. Now

9:34

these people see the grind,

9:37

the story, the narrative, they see what

9:40

this is truly about, the story really,

9:43

and now it's like, Okay, now

9:45

we kind of want to follow into the rabbit hole a little bit

9:47

more because it's scary for people to

9:49

just want to just jump in blindly and something

9:51

they're not familiar with.

9:52

Oh believe me, I know that right.

9:56

Right, So it's like giving them that little bit of belief

9:58

and a little bit of investment, like saying

10:01

something and then honoring that word

10:03

and now delivering on it. And now it's like, Okay,

10:05

I feel a little bit more comfortable to jump in and follow

10:08

you down this path that's unfamiliar for us,

10:10

but at least if we're tethered with you, we

10:12

feel like we're going to be Okay.

10:14

I feel like that's where that crossover is.

10:16

The promise being you becoming champion

10:19

and the reward being you becoming

10:21

champion. I mean, that's that's that's basically

10:24

what we're saying.

10:24

So if you go to the when you went to the gym this morning,

10:27

did you bring the belt with you when

10:29

you get coffee? I do you bring the

10:31

belt with you?

10:33

I've had the belt with me all weekend in

10:35

Miami.

10:35

That was with like Asat Rockies people who

10:38

was it with Puma and guys like that

10:40

gave us a bunch of free stuff and

10:42

me with those those like those

10:45

guys that invest in the ASAP

10:47

Rockies.

10:47

This is like people want to see the celebrity.

10:49

I'm like, the celebrity is great to be around and

10:51

like take pictures with, But this is

10:53

the people that pay the celebrities. Is who you really

10:55

want to be like shaking hands

10:57

with and do these photo with

11:00

these endorsement people that could like do these

11:02

things.

11:03

That's the people who went to link with.

11:04

So it's like that's what I was spending

11:07

my time in Miami in the day to day.

11:08

Do you wear the belt around your shoulder? Do

11:10

you wear it around the waist button? Did

11:12

you wear you put it around the neck? How do you wear

11:15

it around?

11:16

I do over the shoulder. I've been having like my guests

11:18

and friends like holding it more than I have. They're

11:21

like, oh, my god, the man.

11:24

Here. This is a generous shout.

11:26

My guy Clayton would be all, oh, for sure, I

11:28

wanted to ask you this last time. I

11:30

just didn't get it in there, and I've been beating myself

11:32

up about it, so it's I'm excited to get

11:35

to ask you. This is also from my friend Clayton

11:37

Thomas shout out what

11:39

was your perfect

11:41

booking for hit Row? Meaning

11:44

how would you have booked the group?

11:45

I think when we hit the scene

11:48

on NXT with the North American Championship

11:50

win, I think that was like as hot

11:52

as you could be at that especially at that time.

11:55

You know, at that time, I think they had

11:57

some old Joe.

11:57

As NX champion if you do across, so

12:01

they were tied up like there, but

12:04

I think it was like Adam Cole and O'Reilly

12:06

then it was like Joe and.

12:07

Cross and stuff.

12:08

So going from doing what we did to like all the way

12:10

to like getting drafted to SmackDown, I'm like, I think

12:12

that was great, and I just think like,

12:14

once again, it would have been cool to have more

12:17

time. It would have been cool to like jump right into

12:19

like something with like establishing

12:21

another established faction, not just

12:23

Brionna Brandy not being let go and not just us

12:25

three. I think there was a lot of magic we could have

12:27

made with a lot of different people there. But all

12:30

these all these things happened for a reason. If that doesn't

12:32

happen, then you wouldn't see me

12:34

here as aw World champion, So

12:37

I won't be I wouldn't be able to make history

12:39

without those things falling through. It was almost

12:41

like a blessing in disguise, which is hard to see at the

12:43

time, but it was just like, man,

12:46

there has to be something more and something bigger

12:48

winning for me.

12:48

On the other side of that, I feel like this was it.

12:51

You spoke on a collision after

12:54

you you won the championship about

12:57

sacrifices that had to be made on

12:59

this journey, not just the obstacles

13:01

that got in your way, but self inflicted

13:04

pain, sacrifice right sacrifice

13:06

away from family, away from loved ones,

13:09

all to show that this dream

13:11

isn't just a dream, but it's a plan. You're

13:14

the champion now, and

13:16

I would imagine you have less time as

13:19

champion, with corporate responsibilities

13:21

and having to meet with investors and travel

13:23

all around and all the public engagement,

13:25

speaking announcements, doing this podcast

13:27

and the hundred others that you have to do. Is

13:31

do you feel like

13:33

it's a greater sacrifice now but

13:36

it's still a part of the plan. Or have

13:38

you been able to feel a lot of the joys

13:40

that come with being a champion? Have you been able

13:42

to share that with your family? Have you been able to

13:44

show them, Look, this is what happens when you

13:46

do sacrifice.

13:48

I feel like it gets lonelier at the

13:50

top as you go. It

13:52

really does. And that's kind of like what

13:55

I was somewhat expecting. And

13:58

as a lot of people don't really understand about

14:01

these things. It's like, when you sacrifice, you sacrifice.

14:03

You've got to give everything you really do.

14:05

Some people think like you like you could have

14:07

it all. It's like, nah, nah not.

14:10

If you want to like be the epitome

14:12

in the top of anything, you

14:15

have to give up something because you have to. Like,

14:17

these people that are investing you, investing

14:19

in you require so much from

14:22

you and your time and your energy,

14:24

in your mind and your spirit and

14:26

your body. So and

14:29

if you if you want to

14:31

reap the rewards of that, you

14:34

have to sacrifice a lot. And

14:36

if like you don't sacrifice. It's

14:38

like, Okay, you can be home if you want

14:40

to, but you just can't have this. You can't

14:42

have the best best of this, And

14:46

like, that's that's tough. That's in people.

14:49

That's why a lot of people go like wild. You see,

14:51

like a lot of these celebrities at the top of the game,

14:53

like they go literally wild because

14:56

there's a lot of people try to pull from them

14:59

and there's not a lot out of that. They

15:01

don't get that other fulfillment from family members,

15:03

loved ones, true loved ones, true family

15:06

members, like their kids. They

15:08

don't get a lot of that nurse, that

15:10

true nourishment. On the other

15:12

side of things, it's off balance.

15:15

It's all this but very minimal of this,

15:18

and that's tough for a lot of people.

15:20

And I'm seeing it too, like it it gets

15:22

a little lonely. It's a lot of like I

15:24

gotta I gotta get in town

15:27

two days earlier and

15:30

I gotta leave hours later

15:32

yep. And everybody

15:34

else is going away back to the hotels or go

15:37

back to go do this. I'm like, I

15:39

gotta stay late, work work with

15:41

TV and work with production. I gotta come

15:43

in two days earlier before everybody else

15:45

gets there, and I can't set

15:47

plans. I gotta get there early because

15:50

I gotta talk to these news stations. I gotta

15:52

talk to these like I gotta be in

15:54

person with the championship looking the best

15:56

I can. So I gotta get in the gym. I gotta

15:58

make sure I look good. I gotta these

16:00

things in order. Sorry, the house

16:03

is not going to get that thing put

16:05

in at the time because I'm

16:07

not going to be here for it.

16:09

I got to get out of here and leave.

16:10

So I bought a house over year that

16:12

I barely end because I got to be on the

16:14

road to support this company that still

16:16

needs to grow, you know, and it

16:18

still needs these things. With my kids

16:21

and stuff, like, I see them when I can, and

16:23

i'd love to fly them out more. But they're

16:25

getting older. They have camp, they have clubs

16:28

that they got to be a part of. They have these things that they

16:31

are committed to. Now as they're fourteen,

16:33

twelve years old, they're committed to certain

16:35

things. So it's like it's not like they

16:37

were five, six, seven years old and they could just like,

16:39

oh, we have nothing, we can just fly over and come see

16:41

my dad for like a week and a half.

16:43

I'm gonna have that anymore.

16:44

My kids are almost the same edge. I

16:46

feel the same way. And you're

16:48

talking about the artist's life and the artists

16:51

struggle, and you know, to be great

16:53

as an artist, there is a level of selfishness

16:56

that has to exist. Jeff knows this as

16:58

a successful comic. You know it in

17:00

the wrestling profession. I certainly know it in the acting

17:02

profession. And I don't mean selfishness in a

17:05

bad way. I mean there has to

17:07

be some focus on self to constantly

17:09

be evolving and constantly changing.

17:12

Now you're in a position where you

17:14

are now at the pinnacle of that sport,

17:16

and you're talking about all these responsibilities

17:19

and the sacrifice.

17:20

What is it you're doing?

17:22

And if there's no answer to this, there's no answer

17:24

to this. But what is it you do

17:26

to recharge your battery? What is it you do to

17:29

just be able to be you for

17:31

a moment instead of having to be all these things

17:33

for all these different people.

17:45

What is it you do to recharge your battery.

17:48

I'm a video gamer, so like I definitely

17:50

like I get into my games. Literally,

17:53

people see me like traveling with this big TV,

17:55

true airports, I got the game

17:58

case.

17:58

Yeah, and they're like, oh,

18:01

man, I can't do it without it. Now they're like,

18:03

oh, what is this thing?

18:04

I'm like, this is my serenity. That's what that is

18:07

ema alone. But that's what keeps my peace. That's

18:09

what levels me out. Definitely my biggest

18:11

battery rechargers seeing my children doing

18:13

something with them, like flying up to

18:16

the Pennsylvania area and.

18:18

Like, like, at this point, we've seen

18:20

like that area so much.

18:22

I'm like, we've seen they've seen Times Square

18:24

on the ball drop, they've seen Liberty,

18:27

the Liberty Bill, they've seen DC,

18:29

they've seen the Capitol, they've seen the

18:32

Rocky Steps in Philadelphia, they've seen they

18:34

we went to the Lady Liberty and the

18:36

Statue of Liberty and stuff. So like it's

18:38

trying to find new things. I'm like, Okay, we've been

18:40

doing this for a while. What new things can

18:42

we do?

18:43

What they you know?

18:44

So now it's just like getting them to travel

18:46

more because they don't really get to travel that often,

18:48

So just trying to get them to travel more and like

18:51

me experiencing new things with them, so we're

18:53

both experiencing.

18:54

New things together.

18:55

So that's been the new challenge for

18:57

like, that's my but that's my battery, like recharge

18:59

every time.

19:01

Go ahead, Jeff, you got something in there.

19:02

I was gonna ask him when he plays the video

19:04

game A E W Fight Forever, who does

19:07

he pick?

19:07

You know?

19:08

Have you played as anyone else? Or is it do you play

19:10

as yourself?

19:11

What do you?

19:11

What do you? Who do you pick? Well?

19:13

Now I picked myself. Now it

19:16

took a while for me to get it back and get on the

19:18

game.

19:18

But now in May, I'm like, yeah, like before

19:21

you were on it, who'd you pick?

19:23

I played with Darby and then

19:25

like I got beat by Penta and I

19:27

was like, I can't play with Derby anymore.

19:29

Yeah, pent Penta is the guy I

19:31

picked the most guys flying all over the

19:33

place on that game.

19:34

Yeah, I like Darby, throw him

19:36

out Candy's Derby. I use Malachi

19:39

for sure because it was funny. Like in the two

19:41

K game, I mo capped

19:44

Alistair black Yo.

19:45

Really, I didn't know that. That's cool.

19:47

Is there a game you play that we would

19:49

never guess he would play?

19:51

Yeah, what are your favorites? I started

19:53

Evil West like an indie

19:55

game. I know what game that is. Yeah,

19:58

it came out like I think late

20:00

early this year or late last year. It's like

20:03

it's like a.

20:04

Western zombie game with like some

20:07

it feels like Got a War in a sense, like it plays like

20:09

the new Guy of War.

20:10

I was like, okay, something just new. I need.

20:12

I need a new game other than Madden. I gotta

20:14

shoot something. I gotta get away from

20:16

like like plays and all

20:18

that stuff. I need to need a change. Well,

20:21

was it Remnants too? We were on and

20:23

my group we played Destiny for

20:25

a while, a game. I'm trying to think of a game

20:27

that's like, no I would think I would play like

20:30

I. I can go back to PlayStation

20:33

games though.

20:34

Like what what system do you travel with? Oh?

20:36

PS five? Okay, so the PS.

20:38

Five sleek slim

20:40

it fits well in that super briefcase. Is it

20:42

the games that is the President

20:44

Travel the one.

20:45

That says G A E. M. S.

20:47

Because that's the same one that that whatever that company

20:49

is, I.

20:50

Don't even have to round it. That's the one I had.

20:51

I have it for Red Dead with an airport

20:54

Vanguard Vanguard.

20:56

Yeah, that's we all have the same nerdy

20:58

things.

20:59

I still haven't play Red in the hotels

21:01

with it.

21:01

They have a bigger one now and that thing is like I've seen people

21:04

play the McDonald's. They just set

21:06

it up. It's like a seventeen inch screen. I'm

21:08

like, that's too much heavy.

21:10

Okay, man, we're wrapping

21:12

up the first half or first two

21:14

thirds of this and I want to get into some of the

21:17

external stuff. But are

21:19

you when you're not wrestling

21:22

watching wrestling all the time? Do you

21:25

have to take a break from it? I know, like some UFC

21:27

fighters that don't watch the UFC they

21:29

just compete in it. But you said there's a pay

21:31

per view next week they don't watch. Are you

21:33

somebody who enjoys watching other

21:35

wrestlers work or do you just

21:38

not have the time to watch the twenty hours of wrestling

21:40

there is a week?

21:41

Still, I still keep up with weekly

21:44

television programs just

21:46

because I have a lot of friends everywhere and I want to see

21:48

like how they're being used, what they're doing

21:50

and stuff that week and stuff like

21:52

that. So I do support

21:55

my friends of mine. Even when I won the championship,

21:57

a lot of those guys they supported

21:59

me and watch and gave me congratulations.

22:01

So I feel like it's only right to like, oh man, I'm

22:04

watching you guys too, you know, showing

22:06

that support to them.

22:08

So that's where like that

22:11

goes. I watched some highlights every

22:13

once in a while. It's very rare I watch like a full

22:15

thirty minute match to study something, sure,

22:18

because I kind of want my ideas

22:20

and my organicness of what

22:23

I'm creating in the ring to just come from nothing. It

22:25

just came from like I would like to think so but

22:27

maybe somebody like, oh, that came from so and so from

22:29

nineteen ninety five super Juniors or

22:31

whatever. Like For me, I like the

22:34

inspiration to just come just right out of

22:36

thin air or something like that.

22:37

I'll even watch stunt stunt.

22:39

Reels and come up with movements

22:41

and come up with different like transitions

22:45

how to just me personally, I'm like, I'm

22:47

always trying to figure out how to move people in a different,

22:49

unique way. How do I create like just

22:53

perpetual motion without just irish

22:55

whip and just running, you know, like, how do I

22:57

move you in the right way, get your shoulder

23:00

in a certain position, get your hips in a certain position.

23:02

So I watch a lot of those combat just combat,

23:05

like actual combat, just just followed

23:07

movement without having to

23:09

move someone.

23:10

I want to send you all my favorite Jackie

23:12

Chan fight scenes from the eighties because that's

23:14

like, oh.

23:15

Oh, there's a good chance I've already watched there

23:18

was a good chance I've already watched them. I've

23:20

been watching them things for like since like my

23:22

first like ten years of wrestling.

23:25

I've seen them, but I got they are good

23:27

to go back and like watch though, but

23:30

still like a Tony Jaiz someone else, Oh

23:32

hell yeah, I study of Michael Ji White,

23:34

Scott Adkins, Yep, my buddy gid

23:37

Da Silva, who's I actually

23:39

get to go to the jam

23:41

sessions in LA and

23:43

work with him. And the guys who are

23:45

like grabbing the phone and getting the cameras are

23:47

like these guys.

23:48

Worked on chang Chi and stuff like that.

23:50

So I'm getting like expertise, Like you.

23:53

Know, no, the list of names you gave

23:55

is enough street cred, right.

23:57

Right, Yeah, those

23:59

are like these are guys I like that's literally molded

24:02

the last like i'd say, five six years of

24:04

what I've been doing.

24:06

We got to get you the Tony Jai the

24:08

Elephant Bones where he strapped him to his arms

24:10

and just man bust on Nathan

24:13

jones.

24:14

Yell front foot and to just

24:16

double the elbows. Yeah

24:19

crazy.

24:24

All right, Well, you're going to get into a bit of

24:26

business here on the podcast. Don't go anywhere, Swerve.

24:29

We have more with Swerve on our unsanctioned Thursday.

24:31

You guys can hear the rest of the interview, but we

24:34

ask you guys to leave us reviews and we picked

24:36

the best ones or the worst ones, whether

24:38

you want to be kind or mean, and we're gonna read them

24:40

live on the show. So this week is

24:42

Brian Bowse or Bose. I'm

24:44

gonna say Bose like the speaker, and

24:46

he says, screw tribalism, more

24:49

wrestling please. All right, so this is going to be a nice

24:51

one. Thank you for the five star review, and he says,

24:53

so glad I gave this a chance. I'm not a

24:55

Day one listener, but was always intrigued.

24:58

Intrigues a great word. By the way, plan on

25:00

supporting the FED once Freddy Land's a TV deal.

25:03

Oh thank you for that, dude. I hope I do.

25:05

I am an aew die hard but

25:07

not a tribalist. Really rooting for you, Freddie,

25:10

Bryan Bowse, you sound like an awesome dude.

25:11

Thank you for that. Keep your fingers crossed. For me.

25:13

Swerve actually knows that I'm out with the wrestling

25:16

project right now. You're one of the few people that I

25:18

actually kind of showed the teaser

25:20

two to get to get your opinion on.

25:22

So we are out with that.

25:23

I've got only gotten one no, close

25:26

to a yes on one and two others. I don't

25:28

know, but it's been a while, so I'm starting to go crap,

25:30

Maybe it's a no, and then the other half of me goes no.

25:32

Maybe someone's fighting for you. Maybe it's a yes.

25:34

Oh I just think yes, Yeah,

25:37

tevyworks, so Michelle, it does. It

25:39

does, and I'm used to movies, so maybe that's what it

25:41

is. But you guys stay locked Unsanctioned Thursday

25:43

and we will get a little more personal

25:46

with Swerve and get to know the man

25:48

even more than we have. So thanks for tuning in, everybody.

25:51

This is Wrestling with Freddie, Wrestling with Friends

25:53

with Jeff Die, the aw World Champion

25:55

Swerve Strickland. Make sure you tune into Dynamite

25:57

to night and we'll see all of you Thursday

25:59

on Unsay.

26:03

This has been a.

26:04

Production of Iheart'smichael Toura podcast

26:06

Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

26:08

visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,

26:11

or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.