We speak with Elizabeth Strout about her new novel, My Name is Lucy Barton. She is also the author of Amy and Isabelle, Abide with Me, Olive Kitteridge, which won the Pulitzer Prize, and The Burgess Boys.

We also speak with Mike Lofgren about his new book, The Deep State: The Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of a Shadow Government. He spent 28 years working in Congress and is also the author of the bestseller The Party is Over.