Disappointingly two separate interviews, not a Bergman–Finkelstein convo. Rating for the BERGMAN portion only, which is incredibly interesting given events of October 2023. Would love to hear what he has to say on Hamas attack, Bibi Netanyahu's last five years, etc. Internal link dead, can be found here: https://www.writersvoice.net/2018/04/ronen-bergman-rise-and-kill-first-norman-finkelstein-gaza/Finkelstein portion is a DNF. He is one slow, monotone talker & online player does not allow speed adjustment.