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Zeffi Trevino was a normal teenage
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girl growing up outside of Dallas, Texas,
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with a life that revolved around family, church,
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and softball. When Zeffie got to high
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school, though, a boyfriend introduced her to
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drugs and then broke her heart. Then
0:17
nineteen year old Philip Baldo Negro
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swooped in through social media to
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pray on this vulnerable high
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school sophomore. Bald Negro introduced
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himself to Zeffie's parents as a friend of Zeffie's
0:28
from school, and soon used psychological
0:30
manipulation, violence, and intimidation
0:33
to drag Zeffi into the dark underworld
0:35
of sex trafficking. Alarming changes
0:38
in Zeffi's behavior prompted Henry and Crystal
0:40
Trevino to install a tracking app
0:42
on their daughter's phone, but this didn't
0:44
stop bald Negro from using Zeffie's
0:47
body and her misery for his profit.
0:49
Then, on August
0:52
two men were lured to an apartment with the
0:54
promise of sex with Zeffi. The
0:56
men were robbed instead by Balda
0:58
Negro and an accomplice, and a fight broke
1:01
out, resulting in Balda Negro shooting
1:03
and killing one of the would be child rapists.
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This is going to be a first for this podcast,
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an interview that takes place before trial,
1:11
before a grave mistake is made,
1:13
where I speak with Zeppi's lawyer,
1:15
Justin Moore and her mother, Crystal
1:18
Travino. Zeffi is currently
1:20
out of Juvie awaiting trial while the
1:22
Dallas County District Attorney tries
1:24
to charge her for her sex traffickers
1:27
crime, compounding what has already
1:29
been an unbelievably tragic experience
1:32
by potentially sending Zeffy to spend
1:35
the rest of her life in prison. This
1:38
is Wrongful Conviction with Jason Flom.
1:53
Welcome back to Wrongful Conviction with
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Jason Flam. That's me. I'm your
1:57
host, of course, and today we are
1:59
going telling a story that is
2:01
happening in real time and beyond that.
2:04
It's a story that is so disturbing.
2:06
You know, I think that anyone who's a parent while
2:09
then may be hard to hear. It's something
2:11
that you need to hear. They're gonna be action
2:13
steps at the end of it, and there are things we can do
2:16
to make a difference. We're gonna be telling
2:18
the story today of a young teenage
2:20
girl named Zeffie Trevino,
2:22
who was sex trafficked then
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re victimized by the authorities
2:27
at a time when they should have and I
2:29
believe did no better. First, I want to introduce
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to you and emerging giant in
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the defense community. Justin
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Moore, who is Zeffie's lawyer, is here,
2:38
suggin. Welcome to Ronthal Conviction. Thank
2:40
you, Jason, And today with us is one of the
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most courageous and
2:45
strong women I've ever had the privilege
2:47
to know. Zeffie's mom, Crystal
2:49
Trevino is here. So Crystal, thank
2:51
you for being here with us today. Thank you so
2:54
much, Jason. So, this
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is a story of a young girl
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from I'm gonna is call it a normal
3:01
family. What whatever normal is. This is
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a nuclear family in a town in
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Texas outside of Dallas. This took
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place in Grand Prairie, Texas, which is between
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Dallas and Fort Worth, just a suburb city.
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Tell us about Zeffie growing up and about
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the family situation prior to
3:17
this disastrous chain of events.
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Like you said, we're a normal family.
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She was into sports, softball,
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specifically volleyball. She
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loves music, she loves to sing.
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She was just kind of one
3:33
of those kids that people were drawn to,
3:35
very charismatic, laughing, having
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fun, and really
3:40
supported by her siblings. You know, she
3:42
has three older siblings, two
3:44
sisters and a brother, her church
3:46
family and the community, my husband
3:48
and myself softball coaches, so just
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what I would consider everybody's
3:54
normal family. And
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as she entered into high school
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a young may and her freshman year introduced
4:02
her to drugs
4:05
and the toxic relationship, and so Zeffie
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struggled with that her freshman year. Going
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into her sophomore year, which
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was her sixteenth birthday year, we
4:15
saw so many changes, not just
4:17
physically, mentally starting
4:19
to have a lot of anxiety and withdraw
4:22
from her family, and to see her sleep
4:24
a lot, and see herly's weight and
4:26
just what I would consider vulnerable. You
4:28
know, she was trying to overcome all these things
4:31
that had happened from the previous boyfriend.
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And we didn't realize, but
4:35
she meets Philip through
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social media. Um
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May of twenty nineteen, we met
4:42
Philip in our home. When we met him,
4:44
he just did not seem
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the type of person that Zeph and
4:48
I would normally be associated
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with. Very quiet, very strange.
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She didn't introduce him as her boyfriend
4:56
just as a friend, and asked how
4:58
they knew each other. He said through cool
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and also said that he was seventeen
5:03
at the time. My daughter was sixteen. So
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and of course we're talking about nineteen
5:08
year old Philip bald Negro who
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had already I guess, identified
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her as a potential target and
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was already sort of using
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the various mind games
5:21
and other coercive tactics
5:24
to sort of draw her into
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his web. You know, the
5:29
way this thing unraveled, it
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reminds me as much as anything of
5:33
the movie Cape Fear with Robert de Niro, because
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this Bald the Negro character, you
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know, began keeping Zeffie out
5:41
all hours of the night. The Trevinos,
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to their credit, Henry and Crystal,
5:45
it's all the tracking gapp on her phone,
5:48
because they obviously knew
5:50
that things were not right with this
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new person in her life. Little
5:54
could they have known just how bad it
5:56
was. But then one night
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she didn't come home at all. The tracking
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app was deleted and her phone had been
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turned off. You know, we had the Life
6:06
three six app for kids on
6:08
there that turns off social media tracks.
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But when it's deleted, you know, your hands
6:13
are tied. They communicated
6:16
through text and I always thought
6:18
that it was my daughter texting. I can't
6:20
even say that for sure now that it
6:22
wasn't Helm texting saying that
6:24
the movie was over and that they would be home
6:27
after eating a small bite, and
6:30
and then she's gone. It was investigated
6:32
as a missing person's case. She
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came home two days later, hadn't
6:37
eaten anything, and was she was wearing clothes that
6:39
had not been provided to her by
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the family. So all the
6:43
alarm bells are going off. You know, my gut
6:45
wish she was on drugs and and to see
6:48
your child declined the way
6:50
that she did, it was very hard
6:52
to understand what was going on because it was
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happening so fast. What did you
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do at that point? And what could you advise
6:59
other parents to do in that situation?
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You know you're trusting and and and I'll say
7:03
this, Jason, that you know I've worked in a school
7:05
district, so I always saw kids
7:07
differently, I guess in my eyes. So I never wanted
7:10
to just point blank be like this kid
7:12
is no good. Um. But I look
7:15
back on it now and I think I felt
7:17
it. I knew it, And so as a parent, if
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your gut is telling you this is not
7:22
a good thing. This is not a good idea. They shouldn't
7:24
have gone out to the movies. Go
7:26
with your gut feeling. I'm
7:28
not sure what could have been done other
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than you know, for parents, I would suggest
7:33
be on that social media on their
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phones. Do whatever you can.
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And I hate to say this, but they
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don't have privacy. Do whatever you
7:42
have to do to protect your kid. The
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predator that entered my
7:57
daughter's life looked like the normal
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teenage person and
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was able to manipulate, threaten,
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change her, change everything
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that was happening in our life and in her life.
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At the time. What I understood
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sex trafficking to be looked totally different
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than what has happened in our family.
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I always pictured the movie Taken, where your
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kid is kidnapped and taken
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across you know, countries, and it's
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happening right here, right here
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in America, right here in Texas,
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and it can happen to any young girl that's
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vulnerable or is trusting
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a young boy. And we know now
8:38
that this was a very violent guy. And this
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is I think a tactic that is not uncommon,
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which is that the trafficker will once they
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identify and they coerce their victim
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into this web, they will
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then use threats of violence or
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actual violence against them, but also against
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their family. So they put the child in
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an impossible situation where
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they're saying, look, if you try to run away or
9:00
you try to tell the authorities about us or
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whatever, we're gonna harm your
9:04
family. We might kill your family. And when
9:06
you're sitting there in that situation and
9:08
you recognize that this is a person who is
9:10
capable of extreme violence, in fact you're on the
9:13
receiving end of it, there's every reason that you
9:15
should take those threats seriously.
9:17
And that's exactly what
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Zeffie was experiencing. And then
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things got really insane.
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On August three, two thousand nineteen,
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and around four thirty pm,
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twenty four year old Carlos Matrio
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and another man went to an apartment on the three
9:35
block of Northeast fifth Street in Grand
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Prairie, Texas. They were lured
9:39
there by the promise of sex with Zeffie.
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Bald the Negro and an accomplice, Jesse
9:44
Martinez, surprised and robbed
9:47
the men. A fight broke out, resulting
9:49
in Bald the Negro shooting and killing
9:52
Mario. And I do want
9:54
to turn to you, Justin's if you can explain
9:57
how this turned
9:59
into it turned into with Zeffie
10:02
being charged with capital murder
10:04
for a shooting that no one claims that she
10:06
committed. No one. When the Trevinos reached
10:08
out to me and they explained
10:10
the details of this case, it was something that
10:12
really grabbed me immediately. And
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I can't speak to specifics
10:17
because I'm bound to confidentiality
10:19
laws regarding miners. But what I can talk
10:21
about are the facts that are incontrovertible at
10:23
the moment. What we do know is that Balda
10:25
Negro has admitted to being the shooter.
10:28
And we do know that the two men that one
10:30
of which was murdered, but the other one that was
10:32
assaulted by Balda Negro and his accomplice,
10:35
they were there to purchase sex
10:37
from a minor child. You know, these facts
10:39
are incontrovertible. Everybody knows
10:41
that these are the facts. There's not one person
10:44
on any side of this that claims that she shot
10:46
a gun held a gun. I mean, here's
10:49
a young girl in a place that
10:51
she's not in of her own free will, and
10:53
then a dispute breaks out in
10:56
the middle of a robbery that results in a murder.
10:58
So what was she supposed to put on some
11:00
sort of superhero cape and try to stop
11:03
them. I mean, she was there because
11:05
she was in the process of being kidnapped,
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and she was being held there so that somebody
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could make money by selling her body.
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And I hate saying it, I hate hearing myself
11:15
say it, but that's what it was. So
11:17
then this murder takes place and Zeppy,
11:20
a victim, a child sex trafficking
11:22
victim, is now being charged
11:25
as a perpetrator. What has been widely
11:27
reported was that Zeffy was in pre trial
11:29
custody in the Dallas County Juvenile Facility
11:31
for a year awaiting trial, and obviously
11:34
that's spilled into the COVID nineteen pandemic. I
11:36
definitely want to commend you, Jason. A lot
11:38
of the attention that you brought this case
11:40
allowed for Zeffy to be
11:43
released pre trial, along with the legal
11:45
work too. But I actually got worried about
11:47
this from Crystal and Henry, Zeffie's
11:49
parents. The Dallas District Attorney's
11:51
office is actually trying to certify her as an adult,
11:54
so if she gets certified as an
11:56
adult. She's going to be facing life in prison.
11:58
And if she takes this to trial, and
12:00
god forbid, loses at trial, she's
12:03
facing conviction as an adult
12:05
for being a victim. It's a
12:07
failed social policy in which we
12:09
allow a young child who has been victimized
12:12
severely to be placed in this position,
12:14
to be doubly victimized
12:16
by the criminal justice system. She was
12:18
sixteen, she was a child.
12:21
There were four grown men in that
12:23
place. She was the only one that
12:25
was a child. She is a victim.
12:28
She was being sex traffic. She did
12:30
not pull the trigger, she did not beat
12:32
them, she did not steal anything. I
12:34
really have a hard time understanding why
12:37
my daughter is in this situation. Any
12:40
time I read about a state
12:42
trying to decide whether to
12:44
try a child as an adult. Who
12:46
gets to decide whether a child is an adult?
12:49
Is that like deciding whether up is down? A
12:51
child is a child. When you're sixteen, you
12:54
don't know shit about anything.
12:56
The world is still a mystery.
12:59
So how do the state of Texas
13:01
get to even say, on a broad
13:03
legal principle, justin that
13:06
that this child is an adult.
13:08
We've decided that she's an adult as
13:10
a general principle. As a broad legal principle,
13:13
states, especially the state of Texas, I
13:15
can try a child as an adult when it comes to
13:17
the severity of the crime or if
13:19
the child, through a diagnostic exam, has shown
13:21
themselves to a mental type of nature
13:24
that implies some level of criminality
13:26
that goes up and beyond what a child should
13:28
exhibit. I mean, I think it's very abstract
13:31
stuff. At the end of the day, children or children,
13:33
if you're under the age of eighteen, you can't contract
13:36
to do anything with your life. You need a parent's consent.
13:38
But yet when it comes to the criminal justice system,
13:41
they completely ignore this element
13:43
when it comes to the mental state or the
13:45
men's raya of a of a young child. So
13:47
as a broad principle, I mean, it's well settled
13:50
that, you know, children can be tried
13:52
as adults in certain context,
13:54
but practically speaking, I
13:57
think this policy should be eradicated
13:59
from society. I mean, you know, also you have
14:01
to look at the legacy of racism when it
14:03
comes to trying children as adults. I mean it comes
14:06
from this notion of typically back in Jim
14:08
Crow era, in which the criminal justice system
14:11
endeavored to try young black men as adults
14:13
to answer for crimes in a very serious
14:15
way that provided retribution or
14:17
some type of blood lust. One of the cases
14:20
that haunts me is the case of George Stinny
14:22
Jr. Right, George Stinney Jr. Of
14:24
course, he was found innocent years and
14:26
years later. In nineteen forty four,
14:29
was a fourteen year old boy who
14:31
was charged with murdering two little
14:34
white girls. His trial took
14:36
two hours, the jury deliberated for ten minutes.
14:38
That he was executed. He had to sit on a fucking
14:40
telephone book because he was so small in
14:43
order for them to even electrocute him. And
14:45
of course he has been exonerated. But a
14:47
lot of good that does. So that goes
14:49
right back to your point. That's the that's the
14:51
grotesque history of treating children
14:54
like adults in our criminal
14:57
legal system. There's no other place
14:59
in society where a sixteen year old is considered
15:01
an adult. The fact that we have a young child
15:04
who was a victim of sex trafficking
15:07
now possibly being exposed to life
15:09
in prison. I just don't understand why
15:12
that's the policy here. I don't understand
15:14
why Dallas County is pursuing this. You know,
15:16
We had public defenders at the very beginning
15:18
of this case and they told us she's
15:20
not being certified as an adult. She
15:22
is certified as a juvenile. So fast
15:25
forward a year. How do you determine
15:27
someone was a child
15:30
then and an adult then? And
15:32
no one has been able to answer that for me.
15:35
If you're sixteen, you're sixteen, you're a child.
15:38
How do you say she's an adult. I
15:41
don't understand that you want to certify
15:43
a child sex trafficking victim as
15:45
an adult. It's almost perverted in a way. It's
15:47
almost you're saying that, no, she was
15:49
actually voluntarily selling
15:52
herself for sex. And we know
15:54
as children you came and enter a contract for
15:56
anything at a at that age. So I
15:58
don't want to sound like a broken record, but
16:01
no child can enter into a contract, especially
16:03
a sex contract, But certifying
16:05
them as an adult kind of counteracts that well
16:08
settled legal principle. Where
16:23
are we now and what can people
16:25
do about it? I think people can join in the advocacy
16:28
that you have been doing. An other folks, other
16:30
thought leaders in the space, have been joining in
16:32
on getting the word out and lifting
16:34
our voices and showing the powers that
16:37
be here in Dallas County that this isn't right is
16:39
going to be a very important element of
16:41
assisting Zeffie in overcoming these
16:43
charges. To donate to the legal defense,
16:46
go to directly to dot
16:48
org. There's also a petition that you can sign
16:51
on change dot org. And there's a form
16:53
letter to the d A that you can sign on
16:55
Action network dot org. And of course
16:57
follow the hashtag free is
16:59
that on Instagram you can also get
17:02
updates from me at It's Jason
17:04
Flam. That's my Instagram at It's Jason
17:06
Flam. Will have all of these
17:08
action steps linked in the bio pressure
17:11
breaks pipes and Jason, thank you
17:13
for everything that you've done. We really really
17:15
appreciate this interview. We appreciate
17:18
the support, you know, Selena Gomez,
17:20
Kim Kardashian, Cintoyo Brown,
17:23
who herself has gone through a
17:25
tremendous story of her own,
17:27
everyone that has supported
17:30
Zeffie um since they've heard this story.
17:32
There are many other victims that are out there.
17:35
They need a voice, they need help. Every
17:37
voice, every post, Instagram,
17:40
letter, written, phone call, all of
17:42
those things help not only Zephania
17:45
but the legal system kind of take a
17:47
closer look at what's happening,
17:50
especially here in Texas, and
17:52
to help the d A recognize
17:54
the truth of this case. It's almost
17:56
like we're so ashamed as a country
17:59
that this actually goes on that
18:02
we don't even talk about it. And
18:04
I'm glad you mentioned Cintoya Lisa
18:06
Montgomery. Of course, there's a wonderful
18:08
story the flip side of a woman named
18:10
Tara Simmons, a dear friend of mine who was
18:12
sex trafficked as a young teenage
18:15
girl, was in prison and now has ended
18:17
up graduating at the top of a class from the
18:19
University of Washington law School and is now
18:21
an elected representative in the state
18:23
of Washington. And I'm so freaking proud
18:25
of her, and I hope that the future is gonna
18:28
look, you know, as bright for Zeffie, and
18:30
that she's gonna get through this. Hopefully
18:32
the attorney will drop the charges
18:35
and basically acknowledged that this
18:37
was a mistake. So now we
18:39
turned to the closing of
18:41
our show, which is I think the
18:43
best part every week. It's my favorite
18:45
part. It's a part we call closing
18:48
arguments. First of all, I thank
18:50
each of you. Justin Moore, Defense
18:52
Attorney and Social Justice advocate,
18:55
thank you for being here. And Crystal
18:57
Trevino, thank you for you know, showing
19:00
us all what courage looks like. And
19:02
and now I get to turn my microphone off
19:05
and we my headphones on and just listen
19:07
as each of you can share your
19:09
thoughts on anything you want
19:11
to share your thoughts on, and Justin
19:13
let's have you go first, if that's okay,
19:16
and save Crystal for a last
19:19
thank you Jackson. I mean, in conclusion,
19:21
I think this case is
19:24
the canary in the cave. Sex
19:26
trafficking is pervasive throughout our society,
19:29
and sex trafficking including miners
19:32
is equally pervasive. If
19:34
you want to put it into this, we have to start
19:37
with the criminal justice system and how it treats
19:39
victims that are placed in
19:41
these precarious positions. The
19:44
criminal justice system endeavors not to acknowledge
19:46
that victimhood. We're going to further stigmatize
19:49
these folks who are involved and ensnared
19:51
in these trauma bonds with these traffickers,
19:54
and we're not going to empower them to step
19:56
up and speak out about the abuse
19:59
that they are a part of. So
20:01
we need people to advocate for a criminal
20:03
justice system that has compassion
20:06
but also nuanced when it looks at
20:08
sex trafficking victims. Until
20:10
we have that, this is going to continue to be an
20:12
issue and we need to start
20:14
protecting folks who can't protect themselves.
20:17
Crystal, Well, again,
20:19
thank you for giving us this opportunity
20:21
to speak. Dallas County. The
20:23
legal system in general has not even
20:26
acknowledged that my child
20:28
was a victim, and she continues
20:30
to be victimized. Sex
20:33
trafficking doesn't look like what
20:35
we all have in our head or what we've
20:37
been told or what's been on the news. Yes,
20:40
those are very real situations,
20:43
but sex trafficking can
20:45
be the young adult next door,
20:47
most victims in any
20:50
situation of abuse, or people that
20:52
you know and people that you have come to trust.
20:55
I ask that there be some
20:57
resources for parents when this
20:59
is all that and done to help
21:02
recognize signs,
21:05
because it is heartbreaking and it is every
21:08
much a part of our life from here
21:10
on out. I've said this before
21:13
that this is the battle before us right
21:15
now to get her free. But
21:17
we will continue to battle and will continue
21:20
to heal from every aspect
21:22
of this, from the law, from
21:25
her being in juvenile, from her being victimized,
21:27
for her being sex trafficked and sexually
21:29
abused. Thank you for saying
21:32
we're courageous, but I'll be honest,
21:34
it is truly by our
21:36
faith and God that has held us and
21:39
has kept us. My
21:41
prayer would be that the legal
21:43
system recognized my daughter
21:46
as a sex traffic victim and they
21:49
change the law because
21:51
she's not the only one I know that. I
21:54
know there are other young women and
21:57
probably men that have gone
21:59
through this. And when a sex
22:01
traffic victim or victim in general
22:03
speaks out and
22:06
you do nothing, you're
22:09
literally saying they don't matter. Everyone,
22:13
please keep us in prayer, Um,
22:16
pray for the d A
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to open his eyes and recognize and
22:20
do something about it and dropped
22:23
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