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beginning of the year have highlighted that
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things can still go wrong and how
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scary it can be. An
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Alaska Airlines flight was forced to
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make an emergency landing after a
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portion of the plane blew off
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in mid-flight. That panel ripped away
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at about 16,000 feet,
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which left a gaping hole
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in the aircraft. Footage from
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Haneda Airport shows a Japan Airlines passenger
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airplane on fire. It makes it all
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the more remarkable that everyone's off this
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aircraft in one piece. But could future
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generations of airplanes make problems like these
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a thing of the past? Our
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commercial airliners are smarter
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electronically today than they've
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ever been. They're constantly
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recording, they're constantly monitoring,
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they're constantly connected. Anthony
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Brickhouse is an associate professor at
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Embry Riddle Aeronautical University. He
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runs their Aerospace Forensics Laboratory and he
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used to work at the National Transportation
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Safety Board. He says
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all the data that planes generate today when
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they're running normally, as well as from accidents,
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are helping engineers design better systems
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and stronger materials to make future
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airplanes even safer. It
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may not be anything that passengers will notice, but
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the way the flight crew interacts with the aircraft
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and air traffic control is going
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to be definitely advanced. From
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the Wall Street Journal, this is the future
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of everything. I'm Danny Lewis. I
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spoke with Professor Brickhouse about what airplane engineers
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are learning when things go wrong, and
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how new materials, and even AI, could help
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make flying safer in the years to come.
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Find Reese's now at a store near you. Since
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the beginning of the year, airplane safety has
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been top of mind for many travelers, especially
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after the recent Alaska Airlines incident where the
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door plug of an emergency exit on a
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Boeing 737 MAX 9 blew out mid-flight. A
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preliminary report by the National Transportation Safety Board
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found that four bolts that would have kept
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the door secured in place were missing. Professor
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Brickhouse, are there ways that emergency exits and
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their door plugs could be designed without the
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need for just a few critical components to
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secure them? It's really hard to
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answer that question. In safety, we're always
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trying to continuously improve. The
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thing about this Alaska Airlines accident that is
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important to remember is that as
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an industry we can learn from this and hopefully get better
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so that the same thing does not happen again. We've
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been designing aircraft for a long time
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now, but designing an aircraft is a
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really complex proposition. And engineers
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are constantly fighting the weight ratio. You want
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to keep the aircraft as light as possible,
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but also make it as strong as possible.
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We're continually evolving design and different
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features just to make aircraft more
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aerodynamic, more efficient, and more
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comfortable for the passengers. One thing
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that's happening, you know, we have new aircraft that
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are being made more and more out of composite
4:13
materials. The Airbus A350 are
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more than 50 percent composites in terms
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of their weight, but I think we're
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going to see more and more designs
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coming with composite materials. What do you
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mean by composite materials? It's
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basically a plastic type material with
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a resin or glue to
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hold it together. And like you
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tap on it and it sounds almost like a
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metal, but it's not a metal. We started
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using what we call a laminar composite
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material, which is like a
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layered structure. Sometimes we even call it
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a sandwich structure because that's pretty much
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what you're doing. You're adding layers to
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get the proper level of thickness. And
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the good thing about composites is they're
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really, really strong and they're really, really
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light. And you can do things with
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the composite design that you can't do with the
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traditional metal. Boeing's 737 MAX
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line of airplanes has been plagued with
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problems for years. An earlier
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model of the aircraft, the 737 MAX 8,
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was involved in two fatal crashes, the
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Lion Air crash in Indonesia in October 2018
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and an Ethiopian Airlines crash a few months
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later in March 2019. The
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Wall Street Journal reported at the time
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that a combination of a malfunctioning sensor
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and an automated flight control system were
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responsible. How might future aircraft balance the
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benefits of automated systems like that with
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the need for pilots to be able
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to take charge quickly in an emergency?
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Well, that's the thing about safety investigations and
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why we do it. We want
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to look at both fatal MAX 8
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accidents and really understand the
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circumstances of those. In safety, we
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talk about a single causation theory
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versus a multiple causation theory. And
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we know scientifically that no accident
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is specifically caused by one event.
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It's always multiple events. We, from
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an aviation community, are in what
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we call a data-rich environment. commercial
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airliners are smarter electronically
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today than they've ever
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been. They're constantly recording.
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They're constantly monitoring. They're
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constantly connected. And the
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whole intent of automation is to give the
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pilots tools to decrease their workload
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and allow the computers to do more. But
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as a safety person, I always want
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my flight crew to know
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as much as they can about the system.
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I never want to see a day where
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a pilot gets in the cockpit and just
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monitors the system. You know, we want humans
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actively involved in that equation. AI
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is also getting a lot of hype as the
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solution to just about any problem you can think
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of. What are the parts
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of, you know, piloting and operating an airplane
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that you don't think should be left to
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automatic systems in the future? I think of
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automation as an assist and not the end
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all and be all. But
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I just like to have the human in
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the equation and I'm a fan of automation
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and AI that just doesn't
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do it all, but makes
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the workload less, which can
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minimize mistakes and just make the system
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flow smoother than it would manually. Pilots
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used to carry 40, 50 pounds of
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charts. And
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those are papers that they would actively use during the
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flight. Well, now pilots walk
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onboard an aircraft with their luggage,
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but they don't have this massive flight
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back. Everything is in the
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iPad. We call them electronic flightbacks
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and that's not necessarily automation, but
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definitely using technology to assist. The
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systems that we have on board the plane
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now are highly automated. We're
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even upgrading the air traffic control system so
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that it becomes more automated. So it may
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not be anything that passengers will notice. I
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think the passenger experience, you know, from
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the gate to taxi to takeoff and landing will be
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the same. But the way the flight
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crew interacts with the aircraft and air traffic control
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is going to be definitely advanced. And
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even from a maintenance point of view, our
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planes today have what's called health monitoring systems.
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So as the plane is flying, the
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engine. could literally send information to a
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ground station and literally tell the
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mechanics, this is what's going on with the
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system. So the mechanics don't have to spend
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a lot of time trying to diagnose what's
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going on. But you know, I
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can see aviation becoming even more automated and
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having even more advanced systems than what we
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see right now, which is pretty fascinating. As
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just last week, a United Airlines flight
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from San Francisco to Boston was diverted
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after part of the plane's wing appeared
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to be damaged mid-flight. Obviously,
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this is still under investigation. It's very
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early. But how might future airplanes be
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designed to prevent damage mid-flight? Are there
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systems that could alert maintenance or flight
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crews to potential damage before it happens?
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Right now, I don't think we know whether the
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part that came off was purely cosmetic or whether
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it was actually structural. Obviously, you
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don't want to see something like that occurring.
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But If something is just cosmetic, then it's
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not really going to affect the safety of
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the aircraft. But Obviously, you know, as we
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look into the future, designs are going to
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be out there that are safer than what
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we have now. You Know, the way that
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we manufacture aircraft in different sections, we may
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see larger pieces being used, and that could
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possibly enhance. Whatever
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you're you're building anything you know, the
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less connections you can have. The.
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More structural robustness? Yeah, you're going
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to get. In before that,
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in January, there was the Japan Airlines
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incidents where a jet collided with another
10:14
aircraft at Tokyo's Hundred Airport and burst
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into flames. Three hundred and seventy nine
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people on the Chat, an Airbus, a
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three fifty survived. You. Mentioned
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earlier that this craft is made
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of a lot of composite materials.
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How might have changed the situation
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compared to an aluminum airplane? That's.
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What we're interested his daddy. Traditionally
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composite materials are stiffer than aluminum
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alloy materials with said to have
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some some place and can actually
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get. Sold. During that
10:43
in sick from an engineer suspected we
10:45
want to know exactly how the composite
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material behave so that we can to
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bear it to how the aluminum alloy
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material behave. So the weekend speak to
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what we talked: Survivability Composite bows differently
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than aluminum hours. Obviously with this accident
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there was a massive fire that broke
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out their faces that you know you
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have about ninety seconds to evacuate an
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aircraft and I was the they took
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eighteen minutes but that's just speaks serve
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you know how well the evacuation. What
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I'm sure they going to be looking
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at You know, the number of emergency
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exits that were available on aircraft? They'll.
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Be looking into how many of them were
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actually usable. They can be looking into how
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exactly they performed. Engineers. Will
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will look into. you know how robust
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the structure the aircraft was So I
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have how does it behave in that
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impact and could anything have been done
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to make it even more robust? I
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was filled with an alarm. A significant
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amount of information from this federalized accident.
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Anthony Brickhouse is an associate professor
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at Embry Riddle Aeronautical University. Thanks
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for joining us! Thank you for
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the future of everything is a
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production of The Wall Street Journal.
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This episode was produced by Me
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