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Previously, in episode three
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of WTIOP's American nightmare
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series, unknown subject. For
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several days prior
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to this incident happening,
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she was getting the feeling that somebody was coming in
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her house. So she's actually in
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bed. And next thing
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she knows, this guy comes bursting. She
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has shot she heard something on the hallway.
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and she sat up in bed and the next thing she
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knows a guy who's bursting into the room,
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he would meet violence with violence. So
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after he realized that she wasn't
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gonna fight him he, you
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know, stopped trying to injure her. What's concerned
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about him is he's
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very brazen. And
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as we learned to go as we
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go through these cases, he's breaking into these
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homes and committing these offenses
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at probably the highest risk
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time frame you can imagine.
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And these are early most of these are
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early evening hours.
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This guy is he's not wrapped too
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tight. This something pretty
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scary about him, that he would
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act like that. But the fact that he's
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so competent at what he's doing and so
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it makes it even scarier.
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In
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August of nineteen ninety eight, when Christian
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Reisaiam was murdered in Washington, Newsy's
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Georgetown neighborhood, Detective
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Joe Medrano in neighboring Montgomery
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County, Maryland was at a dead end.
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Seven rape cases with no suspect,
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no arrest, no leads.
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Since May of nineteen ninety one, Tadano
2:02
and his team had seemingly used every
2:04
investigative tool In hopes
2:06
of catching a man, they knew to be
2:08
a huge risk taking predator.
2:12
They even tried surveillance deploying
2:14
undercover officers into neighborhoods similar
2:16
to the ones the rapist had been haunting.
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But it
2:20
got to the point when you're spread out
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from almost DC
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to Damascus. Yes.
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Surveillance becomes almost pointless,
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you know, at that time. They're
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so spread out. Just let you know, you're always
2:33
looking for, you
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know, DNA
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DTC, Department of Corrections released
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as arrests after
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these, you know, incidents happen, constantly
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looking through other reports in
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the same geographical area where
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there might have been other attempts where maybe
2:53
he was, you know, scoping out other places
2:55
suspicious person reports. And
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there's always stuff to look at, but
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it spans such a long period of time and
3:02
such a large geographical area that,
3:05
you know, after a while, it
3:07
It's like you'd have to catch him in the act to
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get a DNA hit because through
3:11
investigative techniques, I
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just there was really nothing else to do.
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But
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it what was scary though is,
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like I said, he seemed like he was nuts
3:22
crazy, but extremely
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competent.
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He was in total control. So
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that's just not a good combination. And
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willing to take extreme risks,
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he got to the point, he just interviewed the
3:35
people so much. And it's like
3:37
he had to have crossed paths with him.
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But and we did these surveys
3:41
where all
3:42
these victims, ask them who's your cable
3:44
provider? Did you have any furniture deliveries? Did
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you have any appliances repaired?
3:50
Who's your insurance company? where
3:52
do you go grocery? So I'm just trying to find
3:54
any common denominator and
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could not come up with anything.
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That
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For
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an investigator, it must have just driven you
4:08
crazy. It was. It it it it
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really it was it
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it was ever a case I wanted to close. It
4:15
was that just because It's like,
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you you wanna know how why
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is he doing this? How is he getting
4:22
these victims? It's usually, I
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think, with these serial cases, they're
4:26
in a tight area and usually
4:28
find something in common. But
4:31
these but they weren't even though these were spread
4:33
out all the places say, okay, well, they're random,
4:35
but they weren't random. Because
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he did a lot of he
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did his homework you know, he's not he went
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into the house knowing that
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he's not gonna be any resistance. He wasn't
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afraid of dogs. You know,
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one woman's husband is a way out of
4:51
business trip. Yeah. So
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he he knows that. He's he's
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he's watching these homes for a period of
4:57
time. And the fact that he the
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other thing that really bugged us is the fact that
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he's doing it in such high
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risk time
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period in the early evening. The only
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thing that I
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could think of was that
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he was married or living
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with somebody where his time is
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accountable. He can't be out at two,
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three o'clock in the morning because he he
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was getting in trouble with a wife or a girlfriend.
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So he had to be accountable to somebody,
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or why why risks doing
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it in at a time when
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literally, you know, everyone's
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home. Yeah. Early evening
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is everyone's home. You you have the greatest
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chance of being seen or caught.
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You may recall in episode three, the
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last known rape in Montgomery County, was
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on November fourteenth nineteen ninety
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seven. Just a little less
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than two weeks before Thanksgiving, it
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was the one with the vicious dogs in the
5:58
house. Ten
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months later, Kristine Reziah
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was murdered in Georgetown. It was August
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of nineteen ninety eight. Joe
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Mendano never really gave it a thought.
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He'd heard about the case. He remembers
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the early publicity. but
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the circumstances were just so
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different from the rate cases he'd been
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investigating. For
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one, Christine was attacked on the street
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pulled into a wooded area and killed.
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None of the victims in Joe's cases
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were killed and every attack
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took place inside. The
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one common denominator was the
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huge risk the killer took in
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grabbing Christine off Busy Canal
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Road and forcing her into the
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woods. Joe's rapist
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was a risk taker, but was he
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also a vicious killer who had now
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crossed a line? Meanwhile
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in DC, in nineteen ninety
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eight, DC police detective
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Dean Kombi knew nothing of the
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rapes in Montgomery County. He
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was a homicide detective in a city that
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gave him plenty of work And
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as the calendar turned from ninety eight
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to ninety nine and then into two
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thousand and beyond, the
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investigation into the murder of Christine
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Raziom was basically sitting on
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a shelf.
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It's very frustrating. Very
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frustrating.
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Again, there are landscapers in
7:19
the background of this clip because the interview
7:22
was outside. Because a
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lot of a lot of times, I
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had cases that you know, didn't really
7:28
have much to start with, but you'd
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get something, you know, that you could that you
7:32
could, you know, pull on to
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to make it unwrap bolt to
7:36
solve the case. But not always,
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you know, most of the time when you have,
7:41
you
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know, a a murder in a drug
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area.
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I
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guarantee there's probably at least ten people who saw
7:48
it, you know, but don't wanna, you know,
7:50
they don't wanna be involved, stuff like that. But so
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but eventually, as you keep going back and
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basically nagging him enough. Somebody will tell you
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what you wanna know and so that
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you you can, you know, get it. But in this
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particular case,
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Now
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what you know, there was no witnesses. You
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know? There there was no witnesses
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that
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actually saw anything, you know. And
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he's anything probative. I guess I just had
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sex. Yeah. So and
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the only basically, the only evidence we had, of
8:16
course, was stuff we gotta come from her with her
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body. It didn't appear that
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anything had been taken. I couldn't couldn't
8:23
establish anything that he'd actually
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taken anything from her. because,
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I mean, I can't tell a number of mergers I worked
8:29
where somebody would, you know, they would rob them
8:31
and shoot them and take their credit cards and go think they'll use
8:33
the credit cards and buy themselves some shoes or something,
8:35
you know, whatever. or
8:38
steal their car and be riding around in a
8:40
car, you know, that sort of
8:42
thing. But
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when you get a murder that's like this, this
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is and
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you have not much of anything to
8:51
go on,
8:52
you know, you
8:53
do a lot of wheel spinning, you know.
8:55
You try think of any any possible
8:58
thing that you could, you
9:00
know, to look at, to see if there might
9:02
be something that could help you. Yeah.
9:04
Well, I looked at every place I could think
9:06
of
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it, you know,
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got
9:09
nothing basically.
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My
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impression was the guy was savage.
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That's Mike Farish, the former
9:16
commander of the DC Police Department's
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homicide unit. He's retired
9:20
now and living in Kentucky. Mike
9:23
is well known as a ball
9:25
buster. A cop who likes to rag on
9:27
people, but never in a mean
9:29
way. He's a guy with a
9:31
wicked sense of humor. I got
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to know Mike quite well while working
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for Fox five at a time when he was trying to
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solve some coal cases, and I
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would interview him for features we
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would run on Saturday nights. IN
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A RECENT INTERVIEW, I ASKED HIM WHAT
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HE REMEMBERS ABOUT THE RESION CASE
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AND THE EXTENT TO WHICH HIS
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INVESTIGATORS TRIED TO CLOSE IT Well,
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I I there's no doubt about it. The
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case was worked and, you
9:57
know,
9:59
as a kind of a a
10:02
grim humor, if you will. Anytime there
10:04
was a murder in that neck of
10:06
the woods, it's open up up in over
10:09
northwest in two
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d. We used to joke
10:13
at the homicide branch that, you know, probably
10:15
end up being a task force. just
10:17
because the
10:19
the community there is a little I'm not
10:21
you know, I'm retired. I can say pretty much what I want
10:24
now. So Okay. Yeah.
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Like I didn't before. Right, Paul? Right.
10:29
Right. Is that what the the the
10:31
community is a little more affluent.
10:34
Has more political connections
10:36
and, you know, they definitely
10:38
believe in the old Acxiom, the
10:40
squeaky wheel gets the grease. So
10:42
management on the department would
10:44
definitely been in a
10:46
tither right after this occurred.
10:48
Aside from just the brutality, I mean, that kind
10:50
of brutality patrol, the attention
10:53
if it occurred anywhere in the city.
10:56
But add on to that that it was right near
10:58
Georgetown University, is
11:00
just gonna increase the amount of pressure
11:02
from the community on
11:04
the police department. I
11:07
mean, I I know in the branch We
11:10
really didn't care if it was on, you
11:12
know, good Hope
11:14
Road, Minnesota Avenue, or Canal Road
11:16
Northwest. We we looked at them
11:18
all where they were all serious
11:20
because they were someone's loved one.
11:23
And so we tried to work them
11:25
that way. So sometimes it's a
11:27
little more difficult to work your
11:29
cases when you have this kind of
11:31
political hoorang and
11:33
occurring because management you
11:35
know, puts the pressure down onto
11:38
the the branch itself.
11:40
You know, that was one of the things when I was the
11:42
commander of the branch, and some
11:44
of my predecessors were very good
11:46
at it. We tried to eliminate that
11:48
from getting down to the detectives as best
11:51
we because they had a job to do
11:53
when it was a serious job to do.
11:55
But the affluent Georgetown
11:57
community and the pressure it may have put
11:59
on detective combi lieutenant
12:01
Ferris in the DC Police Department
12:03
had absolutely no
12:05
bearing on the case at all. Ferris
12:07
said you can put all the pressure in the world on an investigator
12:09
and his team. But if there
12:12
is nowhere to turn, nowhere to go,
12:14
and no one to investigate, then
12:16
the case eventually goes cold, and
12:18
that's exactly what
12:21
happened.
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According to court documents I've seen, police
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received some one hundred tips and
14:51
leads in the case over the years. and
14:53
investigated a good number of them. Three
14:56
years after Christine was killed,
14:58
another DC intern went
15:00
missing. a case that drew
15:02
international attention and
15:04
saturation coverage on cable
15:06
news. I'm sure you've
15:08
all heard the name Chandra Levy. the
15:10
intern for the Bureau of Prisons who
15:12
vanished one spring day after
15:14
leaving her Dupont Circle apartment.
15:16
The case drew incredible
15:19
scrutiny when she was romantically
15:21
linked to congressman Gary
15:23
Condett.
15:23
The searches on in the district for a missing
15:26
woman. Her name is Chandra Anne
15:28
Levy. She is twenty four years old and
15:30
hasn't been seen since April thirtieth.
15:32
Levy lived in an apartment on
15:34
21st Street
15:34
in Northwest Washington. She has no history
15:36
of this. And based on the fact that
15:39
we went to her apartment check on her. I
15:41
worked that story hard this summer and
15:43
broke a number of angles in the
15:45
pictures. The appetite for news
15:47
and Chandra's disappearance was
15:49
off the charts. I've never
15:51
seen anything like it.
15:53
Eventually, her body was found and congressman
15:56
Condet was ruled out. For
15:58
a while, there was some speculation Christine's
16:01
murder could be connected to, not
16:03
only the disappearance of Chandra Levy,
16:05
but another young woman who vanished
16:07
from DuPont Circle under
16:10
mysterious circumstances. Anything
16:12
is possible. We're still going on
16:14
all scenarios REOs, BUT
16:17
IT JUST LEADES ME PERSONALLY TO
16:19
THINK THAT MY PLAY WAS INVOLVED. Reporter:
16:21
CHOICE CHANG WAS A YOUNG GOVERNMENT
16:24
ATTORNEY whose body turned up in the
16:26
Potomac River months later.
16:28
Even David Hackos, Christine's
16:30
widower wondered if there
16:32
might be a connection between Christine's
16:34
killing and the disappearance of Levy
16:36
and Chung. But there
16:38
was never any hard evidence linking
16:40
them. Eventually, police made
16:42
an arrest in the Levy case,
16:44
charging an undocumented man from
16:46
El Salvador who had previously
16:48
been convicted. of attacking women
16:50
in Rock Creek Park where Levy's
16:52
body was found. After his
16:54
conviction, the case against Inmarguan
16:56
DK fell apart. over
16:58
questions about information that hadn't
17:00
been shared with his defense attorney.
17:02
He was never retried for the crime, but
17:04
he was deported back to
17:07
El Salvador. In the Chung
17:09
case, police closed the investigation telling
17:11
reporters they had finally identified
17:13
the suspects, but No charges were
17:16
filed because the two were
17:18
already locked up doing long prison
17:20
sentences for other crimes.
17:22
but Christine's case remained wide open.
17:24
For detective Dean Kombi and
17:26
Christine's family, it seemed the only hope
17:28
now was that DNA.
17:31
hoping and waiting for what's known
17:33
as a cold hit. A direct
17:35
match in the FBI's Codis
17:38
database Kotis is an
17:40
acronym for combined DNA
17:42
Index System, which holds
17:44
DNA profiles every DNA data
17:47
bank in all fifty states,
17:49
the District of Columbia and Puerto
17:52
Rico. Here's how it works. Let's
17:54
say police are investigating a crime.
17:56
Often, there's a lot of forensic evidence
17:58
that can provide clues to
18:01
police. blood, saliva, and hair. And
18:03
investigators can get a DNA profile
18:05
from all of it. If
18:07
the DNA belongs to someone, police
18:09
believe is a suspect in a case, they can upload it
18:11
to codis. Now, there
18:14
are two parts of codis. One
18:16
takes the DNA profile uploaded
18:19
by investigators and compares it to
18:21
the profiles of other known
18:23
offenders. This includes the
18:25
DNA profiles of people convicted
18:27
of and arrested for most
18:29
violent crimes. If a
18:31
detective uploads a DNA
18:33
profile into codeys and they get what's called
18:35
a cold hit, that's a
18:37
big leap forward for the investigation.
18:40
Now, that cold hit could link to
18:42
a known offender or an
18:44
unsubbed. That's the other
18:46
part of Cotis, the forensic
18:48
index. This database contains
18:50
DNA profiles collected from crime
18:52
scenes in the US and Puerto Rico
18:54
where investigators have
18:56
no idea who the perpetrator
18:59
is. A cold hit here doesn't
19:01
point detectors directly to the
19:03
suspect, but may match
19:05
other crimes carried
19:07
out by the same person. Kotas
19:10
began with a handful of states in nineteen
19:12
ninety four and then went
19:14
nationwide in October of nineteen
19:16
ninety eight. just two months
19:18
after Christine's murder. It's
19:20
been a remarkable tool for law
19:22
enforcement connecting suspects to
19:24
crimes that otherwise may never have
19:26
been solved. According to the
19:28
FBI, KOTUS now contains more than
19:30
twenty million offender profiles.
19:32
As of April twenty twenty one,
19:34
The FBI says KOTUS has aided
19:37
over five hundred and forty five
19:39
thousand investigations since
19:42
its inception. But in nineteen ninety
19:44
eight, the database was still brand
19:46
new. There were not that
19:48
many DNA profiles in
19:50
the system. and the District of
19:52
Columbia was slower than neighboring states
19:54
of Virginia and Maryland in
19:56
uploading DNA profiles to
19:58
the system. For one thing, the district did not have
19:59
its own crime lab at the time and
20:02
was relying on the FBI for
20:04
virtually all of its forensics
20:06
work, a partnership that had
20:08
existed for decades. Here
20:11
again is Mike Farish.
20:13
back in the early days of DNA,
20:15
it took so long,
20:17
I mean, to get your results. You
20:19
could be talking too And
20:21
see, in DC, we didn't have labs, so
20:23
we had to send our stuff to the
20:26
FBI. Well, the FBI is
20:28
the FBI, and they have their own pecking order. Their
20:31
pecking order was FBI cases,
20:34
then and then and then and then and
20:36
then DC. And, you
20:38
know, it was understandable. It was their
20:40
lab, and their work's more important to
20:42
them than my work was to
20:44
them. I get that. Now, I'm not
20:46
mad or anything like that, you know, the damn shame that
20:48
time, we couldn't have our own DNA lab.
20:50
But, you know, it was the beginning in
20:52
who knew where this was gonna really
20:54
lead, who knew how
20:58
quickly so much less
21:00
DNA would be needed to
21:02
do what they
21:03
did. we
21:05
can do everything package it up, send it off
21:07
to the FBI, and it
21:09
could still take us three to
21:12
six months to hear or anything.
21:14
For the FBI, their
21:15
focus changed a lot on nine
21:18
eleven. Right? Even their criminal
21:20
cases took a back seat to
21:22
their terrorism and anti terrorism
21:24
work. In fact, it
21:26
took the FBI until two
21:28
thousand one to examine the
21:30
DNA in Christine's case and
21:32
upload it into Codis. Mike
21:34
Ferris says in the early two thousands,
21:37
the DC Police Department could no longer rely
21:39
on the FBI, and so
21:42
investigators had to look elsewhere. We
21:45
ended up instead of going through the FBI,
21:47
we would reach out to Bodie Labs
21:49
out there in Norton, Virginia. What we knew
21:51
the bill was coming due. And, I mean, I've seen some
21:53
of those bills and it was, like, wholly
21:56
moly. I mean, we were talking about, you know,
21:58
five ten grand. You gotta remember
21:59
we're also talking about when DC was
22:02
so broke. There were
22:04
members like myself that were paying
22:06
to put gas in police
22:08
cars. In the
22:08
late nineties, DC was on the
22:10
brink of financial ruin. and
22:12
the federal government had installed a
22:15
financial control board, which
22:17
watched every penny being
22:19
spent for years. it
22:21
was ridiculous is what it was. Mhmm. And
22:23
to get them to approve us
22:25
sending DNA to somewhere like
22:27
a bodhi lab you know,
22:30
and not actually have to climb the mountain and
22:32
talk to the Dolly Lam to get
22:34
it was, you know, unheard of. While
22:36
there were clearly some kinks to work
22:38
out, Kodas was leading to some
22:40
amazing breakthroughs in solving
22:42
coal cases around the
22:44
country. Remember
22:54
the other
22:57
cereal rapist I told you about in
22:59
the last episode, the Silver
23:01
Spring rapist. In two thousand
23:03
five, they finally found him, and
23:06
Kotis played a big part. This
23:08
is kind of a complicated story,
23:11
so stick with me. It
23:13
turns out the man who was preying on
23:15
women and silver spring in the late eighties and early
23:18
nineties had moved out of the area
23:20
in nineteen ninety two, first
23:22
to New Jersey, and then
23:25
points elsewhere. By two
23:27
thousand and five, the man Fletcher
23:29
Anderson Morel was
23:31
in Georgia and attempted to
23:33
buy a shotgun into Cobb
23:35
County. The background check turned
23:37
up two arrest warrants for New York
23:39
where he'd been charged for a nineteen
23:41
seventy three rate but skipped
23:44
town. After his arrest,
23:47
prosecutors reopened the nineteen
23:49
seventy three New York rape case
23:51
and buried in an evidence
23:53
locker They found a pair of women's underwear,
23:55
the victims, and they tested them
23:57
for DNA, something that
24:00
didn't exist in nineteen seventy
24:02
three. It turned out,
24:04
Worrell's DNA was on that underwear.
24:06
And when investigators uploaded
24:08
the sample to Kotis, the
24:11
system lit up.
24:13
World's DNA was
24:15
also linked to two sex
24:17
assaults in New Jersey and nine
24:19
attacks in Montgomery County, Maryland. He
24:23
was first convicted in New York and given
24:25
a thirty year sentence in
24:27
Attica State Prison. convictions
24:29
in New Jersey and Maryland
24:32
followed. The Silver Spring
24:34
rapist locked up after nearly
24:36
three decades. When
24:38
he was arrested, the New York Post called the
24:40
evidence that helped NAB HIM, a
24:42
DNA Time bomb. Investigators
24:45
in DC were surely
24:47
hoping for something big to
24:49
go off in Christine's
24:52
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It's another
26:22
summer in DC. It's now
26:24
two thousand eleven. thirteen
26:27
years after Christine's still
26:29
unsolved murder. I was working
26:31
for Fox five TV in Washington DC
26:34
where I had the police speed.
26:36
You may not know it, but reporters often get
26:38
their stories by just hanging around.
26:41
The courthouse, police headquarters,
26:44
anywhere you might be able to run into a
26:46
source someone who may be willing
26:48
to, as we called it, throw
26:50
you a bone. The
26:52
best I can recall that was a June day, and I
26:54
was walking by the main entrance to
26:56
DC police headquarters, when I
26:58
saw a detective I knew, and we
27:00
got talking about coal cases. We
27:03
had developed what we call in TV
27:05
news a franchise, a feature
27:08
series that ran in the ten o'clock news
27:10
on Saturday nights in which I would detectives
27:12
and family members about unsolved
27:15
murders. I'd already featured the
27:17
Christopher Zion case once
27:19
before, but As I learned by covering
27:21
this beat, you had to consistently
27:23
ask comps about their cases. They rarely
27:26
volunteered any new
27:28
developments. On this day, I mentioned
27:30
Christine's murder, then I was stunned by
27:32
what this detective told me. He
27:35
said, you know, there is a DNA
27:38
link between that murder a series of
27:40
rapes in Montgomery County. He
27:42
said it matter of faculty, but the say
27:44
I was surprised would be an understatement.
27:48
At the time, I didn't know about all those attacks Joe
27:50
Madano had been investigating. The ones
27:52
I told you about in episodes two
27:55
and three, they did not
27:57
get a lot of publicity. And
27:59
since
27:59
I had been following
27:59
Christine's case, I knew the
28:02
police had DNA. but I had no
28:04
idea it was connected to
28:06
other crimes. I made some
28:08
calls and worked the story and went
28:10
to see the Montgomery County Police.
28:13
remember the police official in charge of the major crime section
28:15
was reluctant to speak with me
28:17
that day, and would only say there was,
28:20
quote, commonality. between
28:22
the rapes and the murder. The official
28:24
I interviewed refused to say it
28:26
was DNA. I broke the
28:29
story later that night.
28:31
Christine's murder remained unsolved,
28:33
but now I knew police had
28:35
evidence linking Christine's killing with
28:37
a series of unsolved rapes
28:40
INVESTIGATORS KNEW THE SAME
28:42
MAN COMMITTED ALL THOSE CRIMES BUT
28:44
THEY HAD NO IDEA WHO HE
28:47
WAS. A great get as we call it
28:49
in the news business, but to my
28:51
surprise, no other TV station,
28:53
radio station, or newspaper
28:55
picked up the story. To
28:57
say I was perplexed would be an
28:59
understatement. The police have
29:01
connected a high profile murder
29:03
with a series of rapes in a
29:05
neighboring county and the rest of
29:07
the news media just shrugs.
29:09
Mitt made no sense to me.
29:12
And there was another very puzzling
29:14
thing about a connection between Christine's
29:16
murder and the Montgomery County
29:18
attacks. The match was
29:20
actually made years before,
29:23
but never made public. For as long as
29:25
I've been following this case, I've
29:27
never known exactly when that link
29:29
was made, but now
29:31
I've learned codis made connection
29:33
in two thousand four,
29:35
seven years before I broke the
29:37
story, which raises the question if
29:39
the FBI had uploaded the
29:41
DNA profile from Christine's murder into
29:44
Cotis in two thousand
29:46
one. Why wasn't there
29:48
an immediate match to the
29:50
raping Montgomery County. That
29:52
also had puzzled me for
29:55
years. We now know from
29:57
police documents that the Montgomery County
29:59
Police Lab in two thousand and
30:01
four retested evidence from
30:03
two of the rape cases under
30:05
a new protocol. And
30:07
then, those DNA profiles
30:09
back into code s, and that's
30:11
when they got a cold
30:13
hit. Detective Dean Kombi says he got
30:15
word from his supervising sergeant
30:17
JC Young. JC
30:19
Young called me up on the phone and said, hey,
30:22
you know, you just you gotta, you know,
30:24
you gotta coach it on on
30:26
rebellion. And I was like, wait. You know? because I'm
30:28
you know, he says, but it's an unserved though. I was
30:30
like, you know,
30:31
what does unserved mean? unknown
30:34
subject. Yeah. So he's not That's a police talk
30:36
form -- Yeah. -- unknown subject. Yeah. Just
30:38
just unknown. And at that point
30:40
though, you must have had, like, a
30:43
eureka moment thinking, oh, yeah,
30:45
connected this guy to something that you're gonna be able
30:47
to solve this case. Right. For
30:49
a brief moment, Dean
30:51
Kombi thought he had a major break in
30:53
the case. a DNA profile
30:55
with a name attached. It's every
30:57
detective's dream, but
30:59
that's not what he had. He
31:01
had a link to more crimes by
31:03
the same unknown subject. And
31:06
in some ways, that code
31:09
is hit. linking Christine's murder to the Montgomery County
31:11
rapes only deepen the
31:13
mystery. Who was
31:15
this guy? Detective
31:17
combi suddenly had a number of new leads
31:19
to follow, and Joe Madano was
31:22
about to become his
31:24
new best friend. the
31:26
FBI
31:26
never called us. What code
31:28
has notified Montgomery County that
31:30
there was a match
31:32
to, like like, eight rates that they had
31:34
up there. So, you know, I
31:37
contacted Joe Madano,
31:40
and we got together and
31:42
we you know, kind of information, stuff like that,
31:44
you know, I went up there several times and
31:46
we, you know, looked at each other's cases and so on and
31:48
so forth and I got a lot of the materials from
31:51
them and and
31:53
I can tell you right now
31:55
if it we just relied
31:57
on, like, MO alone, never would
31:59
have
31:59
associated them at all. Never
32:02
Detective combi says when he learned the
32:04
facts in the modus operandi of the
32:07
Montgomery County Rapes, he was
32:09
stunned at how different they were. from
32:11
Christine's murder on Canal
32:13
Road. because those cases up
32:15
there were completely different. I mean,
32:17
completely different than
32:18
a than a, you know, than a grab on
32:20
this street. I
32:22
mean, in those cases up there, he was he'd
32:25
evidently been watching them for some time.
32:28
He'd
32:28
broke into houses. and laying
32:30
wait for them. He was masked.
32:32
He took a made a, you know, a lot of
32:34
efforts not to be identified so they
32:36
couldn't see him. I mean, I I know there
32:38
was one where that the people
32:41
had three dogs, three
32:43
good sized dogs, and
32:45
he just got them right on into a
32:47
into a bedroom and and they never rebid
32:49
him or not anything. It's just like being with him.
32:51
You know? The code is hit
32:53
also surprised Joe Medano.
32:56
and it actually sent investigators digging
32:58
for more possible links. Do
33:00
you recall getting
33:03
the notification that the Mirzayan
33:05
murder was connected to your rape cases. Yeah.
33:07
Yeah. I do. And I was, like, shocked
33:09
as soon as
33:11
You said because I I knew that
33:13
case. I knew that design a case, but I would
33:15
have never guessed that,
33:18
you know, that that would be
33:20
connected. So But then again, it offered
33:22
new avenues of
33:24
investigation. She was staying
33:26
in
33:26
the dorms at Georgetown University. when
33:29
when this happened. So did this guy was
33:31
he maybe working in Georgetown, then
33:33
the other avenue we looked at
33:35
was she had just gotten
33:37
her PhD and cell
33:40
biology. Remember,
33:42
for a while, investigators in Montgomery County
33:44
wondered that there might be an NIH
33:46
connection in their attacks. One of the victims in
33:48
Montgomery County, the woman who lived in the house
33:50
in Silver Spring with those dogs, well,
33:53
she worked at the agency.
33:55
and one of the earlier victims' mothers
33:58
had some connection to
33:59
NIH as well. Christine's
34:03
husband, David Hackos, was due to begin
34:05
a job there in the fall after
34:07
Christine was murdered and Christine was
34:09
a cell biologist just like
34:11
the Silver Spring victim. they
34:14
both got their PhD right around the same time and the exact same field of
34:16
study. So, you know, we did a lot
34:18
of work at NIH also. I'm
34:20
looking for possible suspects, but but
34:24
everything was
34:24
at dead end. Again,
34:26
here's detective Dean Kabi.
34:28
It was kinda
34:29
unusual because most of
34:31
the victims were well educated women like Christine. We
34:34
started getting next step. I mean, I started looking
34:36
at people from That
34:38
could be in science. Mhmm. I was
34:42
looking at because they had, you know, people, you know,
34:44
security guards from where she, you know, where
34:46
some of these women were working
34:48
because some,
34:50
you know,
34:51
apparently well, at least one
34:54
of the instances, the
34:56
woman had a roommate who was out of ten who'd
34:58
gone out of town the
35:00
day before. before she was attacked.
35:04
And, you know, who knew she was gonna
35:06
be alone? I mean, so, you know, it had me watching her
35:08
continually or
35:10
had to have some knowledge that she was gonna be alone in the house.
35:12
So, I mean, we were looking
35:14
at the, you know, security folks. I mean,
35:16
if anybody that might have known that
35:19
she was gonna be alone at the house, you know.
35:21
That was driving Joe nuts that he
35:23
couldn't figure out how he was picking
35:25
his victims. Right. and I still don't
35:27
know if he if if they ever figured
35:30
out how he's picking those women.
35:32
That possible national institutes
35:34
of health connection like so many other possible
35:37
leads. Well, it went
35:39
nowhere. The biggest difference in
35:41
these two cases, Christine's murder,
35:43
the Montgomery County rapes, was
35:45
how Christine's ended. But
35:48
the Montgomery County rapist had turned
35:50
violent before, especially
35:52
when his victims like the
35:55
housekeeper in the basement who was beaten with a
35:58
boom box.
36:04
Remember what
36:08
Christine's husband David Hackett told me?
36:12
a fighter. She was
36:14
fearless. She would have fought back.
36:16
I I think that that's why she was
36:18
killed because she would
36:20
not have She would have fought
36:22
very hard back. Yeah. She would
36:24
not have allowed herself to be
36:26
raped. Only the killer knows
36:28
why he did what he did,
36:30
but it's hard given everything I've learned from police, from
36:32
David, not to speculate.
36:34
We know what the attacker
36:37
wanted from Christine We also know that detective Dean
36:39
Combi said there was something distinctive about
36:42
the way Christine's clothes have been taken
36:44
off. Inside
36:46
out, as if she'd
36:48
been knocked unconscious, put in a
36:50
choke hold perhaps before her clothes were
36:54
pulled off. But did Christine start to come to to regain
36:56
consciousness at some point as she
36:58
was being assaulted? Remember,
37:00
the witness walking his dog that
37:02
night heard a scream.
37:04
And David's clear, if she had
37:06
a chance, Christine would have fought
37:08
like hell. The scream,
37:11
a possible struggle, Christine is
37:14
messing up the attacker's plan. And
37:16
this time, he's not inside a secluded
37:18
house out in the suburbs. It's all
37:20
happening right there off Busy
37:22
Canal Road. the unknown subject suddenly not
37:24
in control anymore. His
37:26
brutal act picking up that boulder
37:29
seems like the act of a desperate
37:32
man. After years of praying on
37:34
women, is he scared he's
37:36
going to
37:38
get caught? smashing that seventy three pound rock into her
37:40
head committing a monstrous act
37:42
of murder. And the
37:44
ultimate the ultimate active
37:46
cowardice
38:12
As I've
38:18
already said, the
38:18
DNA link between the
38:21
rate in the murder of Christopher Zion was kept
38:24
secret for years. For
38:26
reasons still unclear, police
38:28
officials in Montgomery
38:30
County, Maryland and Washington DC decided to keep it
38:32
out of the public eye.
38:34
Why? I
38:35
why still don't
38:36
know. NEIGHBOUR THEY
38:38
WERE BANKING ON THE FACT THAT IT WOULDN'T TAKE
38:40
LONG TO CLOSE THE CASE.
38:42
THANKS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT'S NEW
38:46
SUPERtool, KOTUS, all they had to do was wait for a cold
38:48
hit. Virtually every day,
38:50
labs in all fifty states
38:52
were uploading new DNA profiles.
38:55
Some of them known, some of them unknown.
38:57
If the man detective's combia medrano
39:00
were after the same
39:02
unknown subject to
39:04
kill Christine, and attacked all those women in Montgomery County,
39:06
committed another serious crime.
39:08
His DNA would almost
39:10
certainly show up in codas. Eventually,
39:14
but years went by after
39:17
Christine's horribly violent murder
39:19
and nothing happened.
39:22
was the unknown subject dead already in prison
39:25
for a crime they didn't take
39:27
his DNA for, or out
39:30
of the country, the big break seemed
39:32
to be another dead
39:36
end. It's now a few
39:38
days before Christmas two thousand
39:40
eleven. Several months after
39:42
I stumbled onto the stunning news
39:44
that the same man who killed Christopher's
39:46
eye on in August of nineteen ninety eight, had
39:48
also carried out a string of rapes years
39:50
before Montgomery
39:52
County. The FBI called
39:54
a news conference with police from
39:56
Montgomery County in DC. They
39:58
were finally going to give their
40:01
unknown subject a name. sort
40:03
of. They still
40:05
didn't know his identity,
40:07
but they gave him a
40:09
nickname, perhaps in hopes of
40:11
drumming up publicity. something that would catch the
40:13
public's interest, the Potomac
40:16
River
40:17
river rapist.
40:18
This is something the FBI is known
40:20
the f b i known for for. The two
40:22
thousand one anthrax attacks came to be
40:25
known as Amerithrax. And when they were looking
40:27
for a man known for sending letter bombs
40:29
to college campuses, they
40:32
called him the Unibomber. Ron Matchin, the
40:34
US attorney for the District of Columbia, was
40:36
there, and he told reporters,
40:39
It's never
40:39
too late to bring justice to to the
40:42
victims and their families. We
40:44
believe an individual that was responsible for
40:46
these attacks is still on the loose and we need public's
40:48
help in trying to find that individual and hold
40:50
them accountable. The FBI
40:52
launched
40:52
a website with a map
40:55
and a timeline of all
40:57
the attacks There was a composite sketch
40:59
of the attacker, though one made by
41:01
that Virginia police officer and his wife,
41:03
who had seen that man following Christine
41:05
on canal rode the night she
41:07
was murdered. It had been more than twelve
41:10
years, so they age
41:12
progressed it, giving the
41:14
picture of the
41:16
suspected attacker lines on his face.
41:18
There were also photos of the crime
41:20
scene. In the dirt and
41:22
brush off canal road, there's a photo
41:24
of a
41:26
pair sunglasses and Christine's intern key
41:28
card. Sadly, it has
41:30
an expiration date of August eighth,
41:33
exactly one week after she
41:35
was murdered. And the
41:38
large bloody rock police said the
41:40
attacker used to kill her.
41:42
The FBI had put up billboards and
41:44
posters and bus shelters. A
41:46
composite picture of the suspect with the
41:48
words wanted sought for
41:51
questioning. The bureau was also
41:53
offering twenty five thousand dollars
41:55
to ANYONE WHO COULD HELP INVESTIGATORS
41:57
FIND THE MAN RESPONSIBLE FOR
41:59
THE
41:59
CRIMES. THERE'S NO
42:01
PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT'S
42:03
TOO SMALL OR and any information that we wouldn't be
42:05
interested in looking into
42:06
because those
42:08
are the things that sometimes feel
42:11
the puzzle of bringing this case together. So we if
42:14
anybody has any information
42:16
or any thoughts about who this
42:18
might be and urged them
42:19
to contact THEIR
42:21
LOCAL POLICE WITH FBI
42:24
THAT'S DAVID GOLASPI. HE
42:26
WAS ALSO AT THE NEWS CONFERENCE IN
42:28
HIS CAPACITY as the Montgomery County Police
42:30
Department's director of major crimes.
42:33
He's now chief of police
42:35
in Melbourne, Florida where We spoke via Zoom
42:37
one day in the fall of twenty twenty one.
42:39
I asked him, what do you remember
42:41
from that time in two
42:44
thousand eleven? knowing the crimes
42:46
were linked by DNA.
42:49
So it gives us hope
42:51
that we're
42:52
gonna identify who this person is
42:54
at all these years. And that, you know, we have now
42:56
tied these cases together.
43:00
Some some some pretty
43:02
violent cases. And and now we're
43:04
able to make that
43:06
connection. Now it's trying to find out who is
43:08
this person and how are we gonna be able to
43:10
do it. So,
43:12
you know, as you know, the way code is works
43:14
is if, you know, it suspects
43:16
DNA goes into the the system, and
43:18
then if there are any matches, we get
43:20
a hit Here, we had a number
43:22
of different matches, but we
43:24
couldn't tie it to an individual.
43:26
And
43:26
that's what made you know, it gave us
43:28
hope that, hey, we knew we had this person
43:30
But now what happened to them? You know, why did they
43:32
just drop off? Because did they stop doing
43:35
their crimes? And you have to look at
43:37
how much time is passed how
43:39
old they might be? Have they been deceased? Are they
43:41
in prison for other offenses?
43:44
And then how is it now? I mean, we
43:46
have good evidence how are we
43:48
going to tie that to the person that's
43:50
responsible for that DNA?
43:52
Yeah,
43:52
because at that point, you
43:55
had a period of at least twelve
43:58
years where there was no
43:59
seemingly criminal activity that
44:02
could be tied to this
44:04
guy's DNA. after Chrissy Mirzayan's murder. So
44:06
you that point at that
44:08
point, you and
44:08
your detectives are wondering Right?
44:12
Where is this guy? Is he locked up? Is he dead? Is
44:14
he left the area? That that's
44:16
that's the kind of thing that you're you're
44:18
dealing with at that point. That's
44:21
correct. You know,
44:21
you always you always wonder why did they
44:23
just did they just stop? because
44:26
usually, you know, just stop with that kind of
44:28
criminal behavior.
44:30
you just don't stop until you're either
44:33
you're incarcerated. And if they were
44:35
incarcerated for something similar, their
44:38
DNA would have already been entered into codas. So we knew that didn't happen.
44:40
So they were either incarcerated
44:42
for a different offense or
44:45
they had had died something
44:48
changed in the way
44:50
they operated from
44:51
that time frame because of the
44:53
connection in the time frame
44:55
and the location of where they
44:58
were. At this
44:58
point, twelve years have passed
45:01
since Christine was murdered. AND
45:03
DAVID HACOS WAS BACK IN CALIFORNIA WHERE HE PICKED UP
45:05
THE PIECES TO THE LIFE HE HAD PLANNED
45:07
AND TRYING TO MOVE
45:10
ON.
45:11
David told me
45:14
he had no
45:19
idea investigators had link the cases until
45:21
he heard it on the
45:24
news. I don't know what what I thought about it. I mean,
45:26
to me, it was just a piece of information
45:28
that would hopefully
45:30
help them find the
45:32
the
45:33
person, the perpetrator. because,
45:35
you know, with with with
45:37
all of those rape
45:40
cases, you
45:42
know, there and the fact that most that that I think all of
45:44
the the the victims
45:47
had survived. Right? and
45:50
they were able to
45:52
provide a lot of identifying information
45:54
about the individual at
45:57
that time. So But
45:58
it still took I mean, it still was not I
45:59
mean, even with all that extra information,
46:02
they were still not able to find
46:04
the person. That
46:06
big
46:06
effort with the website and billboards
46:08
was inspired by a similar
46:10
public information pledge that led
46:12
to the capture of the east coast
46:15
rapist in March of two
46:17
thousand eleven. In that case,
46:20
police arrested the
46:22
suspected attacker wanted in fourteen sexual assaults
46:24
in Maryland, Virginia, Connecticut,
46:26
and Rhode Island within
46:28
days of
46:30
launching it. Investigators got a tip and put a
46:32
man under surveillance. And when
46:34
he threw away a cigarette,
46:36
they collected
46:38
it and tested it for DNA.
46:40
It was a
46:41
match. There was still a long road
46:44
ahead
46:44
for Christine's case,
46:46
but There is a reason
46:48
police hold those news conferences in hopes
46:50
of generating new leads in
46:54
troubling cases. After that December two thousand eleven news
46:56
conference with the FBI, a
46:58
tip came in that led
47:00
police to evidence that would shed
47:02
new light on all of the
47:04
attacks, evidence that
47:06
had been sitting on a shelf
47:09
for fifteen years. for
47:11
whatever reason, I don't know,
47:14
but her rape kit basically hadn't been
47:16
processed or at least
47:18
uploaded
47:20
into codis. That's
47:22
next
47:26
time on unknown subject,
47:30
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American nightmare series, written
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assistance from Jack Moore, Julia
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Medrano. retired Montgomery County
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47:50
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