Kunal Gupta and Jay Vidyarthi connect again a few weeks into the coronavirus quarantine. We discuss online board games, great books, and the human tendency to oversimplify. We explore what it means to reframe the fear that things won't go back to normal into a hope that things won't go back to normal. Topics also include the potential need for many more small businesses in the new world and the valleys of emotional response we face in crisis situations.