karl and joel both prepare for upcoming eating trips and go over their ambitious itineraries and also discuss the dangerous, cutthroat world of giant novelty pizza delivery and why joel is a bad tipper. then the boys welcome Doug Swim (@swimmyd), wine importer, sales czar and general man-of-the-world to discuss drinking for a living, why it's such an exciting and challenging time for the natural wine movement right now, and, of course, Logjammin'. >>>No added sulfites were drank during the recording of this episode<<