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Legendary Skateboarder Joe Louis

Released Wednesday, 8th November 2023
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0:11

Oh, got

0:11

a little, got a little head bob from, from

0:14

Zig there. Yeah. A little saucy baby. Yeah.

0:17

Um, what's up? This is Yozys Racist.

0:20

Uh, I, I have to do all

0:22

the intro stuff because, uh, Tati

0:24

isn't here and in her place is

0:28

okay. What is, what is the chain

0:30

of allyship for producer

0:32

Zig?

0:33

Producers Zig, former producers, Zig, current

0:36

enemy of the show, previous friend of the

0:38

show, my cohost

0:42

on a different show where

0:44

we are friends on that show. Yeah. Enemies

0:47

on this show. Is that correct? Is that

0:49

the, yeah, we can't pin me down, baby. Like,

0:51

uh, I like, uh, I like, uh, like you

0:54

never know what I'm going to get. I can be like a little bit of this. I could

0:56

be a little stinker sometimes. You're a multi hyphenate.

0:59

Yeah. Multi hyphenate friend, enemy, friend,

1:01

enemy. Yeah.

1:03

So the rapport on, on the other show is

1:05

you guys are good friends. Yeah. It's much

1:08

more, much more inviting.

1:11

And it's full of tension and

1:13

terse conversation as it is in this one. How

1:15

did this all come about? We basically, we

1:17

have a earwolf presents mini

1:20

show. Yeah. Well, I can tell you the literal

1:22

way it came about. Month three of the

1:24

strike, we're like, we need money. What's an easy thing

1:26

that we could pitch and we pitched it. And then that

1:28

chicken didn't come home to roost until after the pandemic

1:31

or actual after the strike it ended. So

1:33

yeah, I still gotta fill

1:35

out my paperwork. Dude. You get, yeah, get

1:37

on that, man. But

1:42

that show preposterously,

1:44

no one gave

1:45

us any notes on the title of it, which yeah,

1:47

there was, there was little, no, there was literally

1:49

no, no process for the entire thing,

1:52

which I was very grateful for.

1:56

Yeah. They shouldn't have let us do that, but it is called,

1:59

I guess it's. technically full-name earwolf presents

2:02

do you understand the words that are

2:05

coming out of our mouth

2:11

And roll out the tongue it's

2:13

as easy to say yes it is to understand the premise

2:15

of the show Which

2:19

is that you watched three rush hour movies

2:21

and then a fourth do it was a show

2:23

Yeah, yeah, then and then we watched

2:26

you know actually if you're a subscriber to

2:29

our Premium show you'll know

2:31

what our fourth show fourth movie

2:34

it was but that's I sub off of pots

2:36

calm Yoko we live with

2:39

guests. I like this two plugs with this This

2:42

is we put a plug within a plug this we

2:44

incept it a different plug

2:47

and yes, but we also

2:49

Because if it were simply

2:51

if we were two white comedy

2:53

dudes We would simply be allowed to

2:56

do a movie podcast or

2:58

a food podcast But we of course

3:00

have to work twice as hard for I

3:03

can't even say half as much So

3:09

we we are also creating

3:13

black and Asian fusion dishes

3:16

you go along with our movie

3:19

watching experience of the we'll

3:21

say Well intentioned

3:24

but Eradically

3:26

executed

3:28

You know trilogy of films before

3:31

black and Asian people to get a

3:34

lot Yeah a lot of the jerks

3:36

are a lot I will say a lot of the jerks are

3:38

like isn't it crazy that black people or isn't

3:40

it crazy That Chinese people like that that's

3:42

a basis for a lot of the setups of the jokes for

3:45

these For the two sequels for these

3:47

movies at the same time

3:50

Go listen, I suppose if you want it's better

3:52

than I thought yeah, the movies are yeah, yeah, yeah,

3:54

yeah The podcast is way better than I thought

3:58

Yeah, the movies are

3:59

a little better than I thought it was gonna be. I was convinced

4:02

it was gonna be some of the most racist shit

4:04

that I've ever seen, but it was only

4:07

kind of racist. Pretty, yeah. Yeah, it was only pretty racist.

4:10

You know,

4:10

the thing that we didn't do

4:13

on that pod, we didn't compare it to

4:15

movies of the time. Oh

4:17

yeah, yeah. It's probably really good for

4:19

movies of the time. Yeah, I mean, what was

4:21

it, what was the first one, like 99? Or was it like

4:23

a 90-70 movie? I think grading on a curve,

4:26

we probably should have graded on a curve, but we didn't.

4:28

So, get our 2023 opinions about

4:31

the Rush Hour

4:32

movies and

4:34

one mystery movie that might have been promoted

4:37

somewhere that we don't know about, but you know.

4:40

And the first dish we did was a sort

4:42

of like

4:43

fusion-y potato salad. Oh

4:45

yeah, that was the first dish that we, in my

4:47

way, I mean, you cooked. The

4:49

first quote, I'm using dishes with quotation

4:52

points is that we ordered fried chicken from a Korean

4:55

place and from a black owned place, and then we

4:57

added some Mambo sauce from McDonald's.

5:00

Wow, that sounds amazing. It was fantastic,

5:02

yeah. It was really a fun night.

5:05

And our guests on that show, why are we doing a full plug

5:07

for this other show? Why not? It was Jamel

5:09

Johnson who was awesome. Yeah, and

5:12

we are, I guess, because

5:14

of this show, we should mention we're recording

5:16

a little early. We don't know what has happened

5:18

in the Middle East. You know, I

5:21

think an educated guest would be, it's not going

5:23

great. That's probably

5:25

held true for the last, you

5:27

know,

5:28

75 years, I believe. And also,

5:31

you know, obviously, as we talked about

5:33

last week, been difficult to

5:35

talk about it. I, of course, speaking

5:38

for myself only, but

5:41

yeah, I signed

5:43

the fucking petition. So if you're covered for

5:45

me, I guess you're covered for me. But

5:47

yeah, I am against what

5:49

is happening in Palestine

5:51

and Gaza. And,

5:54

you know, I probably could be doing more, but I

5:57

try to do something, trying to

5:59

do something. fucking know and

6:01

we don't know what's happening. It's a bigger

6:03

issue I suppose. So

6:07

that's all we got. So we're doing three voicemails

6:09

this week. I don't know but how are you doing otherwise, Zigg?

6:11

You know outside

6:13

of the world stuff going good.

6:16

I mean fine. I mean

6:18

I feel like Andrew

6:21

has maybe had a closer lens to like how crazy

6:23

my schedule has

6:25

been for the past month. I've just been doing

6:28

a lot of work. Unbelievable

6:31

numbers of comic pages. Yeah

6:33

a lot of I feel like I do a feature

6:35

every other week. I feel like I'm just writing that amount

6:38

of pages which is kind of crazy but you know it's

6:40

good. That's been a

6:43

nice I mean it's champagne problems but a nice.

6:45

What's coming out this

6:48

this week or the next couple weeks? Miles

6:51

Morales Spider-Man number 12 I think

6:54

comes out right in time to wrap up what's

6:56

going on and then I think oh

6:59

I think I have a Deadpool thing coming

7:01

out I think this month. I don't know when. Wow. But I think

7:03

I have. Watching the man lose

7:06

track of issue numbers. Well it's

7:08

funny you asked it because I so

7:11

there are 11 issues out as of this recording

7:14

and I've turned in issue 17 so

7:16

I'm already like six months ahead

7:18

of what's I'm sort of like if

7:21

you've read Watchmen another well-known.

7:23

Yeah. There's a bit where a character named Dr.

7:25

Manhattan is talking about like I'm on

7:27

Mars it's 1975 I'm dropping a piece of paper

7:30

like it's 24-20 wake in process time

7:33

at the same time and this is how I process

7:35

time like. Yeah. You know it's 2023 I'm

7:38

writing a comic book it's 2024 I have

7:40

a comic book coming out you know it's stacking

7:43

on top of itself but you know good place

7:45

to be. There are I was very

7:47

very lucky in that I

7:50

had income that was approved for the

7:52

during the strike

7:55

which a lot of people did not have. Yeah.

7:57

So that's that's been a plus. I have a question about. Usually

8:00

with the comic book writing, do you know

8:03

typically how many like comics

8:05

your how many issues you're gonna write

8:08

like does it impact

8:10

the storytelling or yeah

8:12

just like one at a time. Yeah,

8:15

so like usually like I know for miles I'm

8:17

doing at least 24 issues or something like

8:19

that. So like these will be divvied

8:22

up into like you're gonna do like a three issue or four

8:24

issue or four issue or two issue or so like that's cool.

8:26

Another thing that's coming out now will be wrapping up a three issue

8:28

arc that I just did and

8:31

the number seven like the other four that

8:33

I've done or four issue arc. So

8:36

yeah

8:37

like it helps with that way but yeah

8:39

I think at any given time I'm as of right now

8:41

I'm probably writing two to three books

8:43

at the same time it's kind of crazy. Wow that

8:46

feels nuts I can't even I can't

8:48

even imagine. Wait

8:50

and is there any listeners

8:53

in Michigan? Oh yeah

8:55

at some point I'll

8:58

be in Detroit November

9:02

10th through the 12th for Motor City

9:04

Comic Con which Andrew I need you to send

9:06

me all the like things to do in Detroit because

9:09

I have no I don't know how long

9:11

how long they're gonna keep me there like during the day but

9:13

if I have like

9:15

you know

9:16

pockets of windows open be cool like check out the

9:18

city a little bit. So send me some like

9:20

museums or like food spots or something like that. Yeah

9:22

you're gonna

9:23

yeah Detroit's finest it's

9:26

gonna be great. I still have a couple

9:28

couple buddies there that I think I'll show you around easily

9:31

could have done this off mic. We did hey well we're

9:33

catching up. It's in the pocket you heard it you just heard all of

9:35

that. So yeah fine fine zig

9:38

in Detroit if you're around. I

9:40

have never is where's Motor City Comic Con being held?

9:43

I don't know I look

9:45

at but there's like a piece of paper they said they said

9:47

like where was happening but I don't remember

9:50

they like convention sitter. Yeah

9:52

suburban collection show place. I was

9:55

gonna say is it at Cobo Hall and

9:57

then I was like I'm 99% sure Cobo

9:59

Hall was torn

9:59

out it like

10:02

that. I think that's where it's gonna

10:04

be at. Just my favorite

10:06

thing that I'm,

10:07

I don't know why this wouldn't exist. And

10:10

I think I've shown you a photograph of this before but

10:13

in Detroit, I think it's

10:15

in Detroit proper, but

10:18

there is a one

10:20

of the world's wildest piece of public

10:23

art,

10:24

which is a, is that hand that you always

10:26

talk about? Yeah. Of

10:29

just famous boxer

10:31

Joe Louis is forearm only,

10:34

forearm and fist. So it's,

10:37

I don't know. I remember when it was a kid,

10:39

it like seemed like it was like

10:41

fucking like 50 feet long. It

10:43

can't be. Wow.

10:45

That's goals, Andrew. I want to see like your

10:47

ear as a statue for like, I

10:50

know legend monument

10:52

monument to Joe Louis. Yeah.

10:55

It's on Jefferson and Woodward. And

10:57

it is how big is it? Okay, it is

10:59

his forearm 24 feet by 11.5 by 24. That can't be

11:01

that must include like the

11:07

base 24 feet. Let's

11:09

fucking do that.

11:11

There's like cars driving under it. No,

11:14

it's just like a it's like in the median,

11:17

but it's just like,

11:18

like

11:20

the wildest piece

11:23

of specific art. Yeah, this

11:25

is like, this is like when you're using,

11:27

when the superhero uses their super plan. Yeah,

11:31

it's just like, and it's

11:33

just like a such a specific like

11:36

piece. I mean, yeah, the man was a boxer.

11:38

So I get it. But also,

11:41

you don't approve.

11:42

Well, no, I do approve. It's just, I just

11:45

imagine the meeting

11:45

where just like the whole room

11:47

had to be like having heard the pitch for

11:50

the statue. Everyone

11:52

had to just be waiting to say like, who

11:55

is going to be the first one to say like, but what

11:57

about just like a regular statue? Yeah. Like

12:01

yeah, here's what we're gonna do. We don't take all this bronze

12:03

or copper whatever the fuck it's made out of It

12:06

makes just one fist I

12:09

mean it was commissioned by Sports Illustrated.

12:11

So in the 80s, this is

12:13

all kind of tracking for me. I Love

12:17

it. I love it so much. It was

12:19

my like Favorite

12:21

the more I look at the more I get into it. Yeah,

12:23

this is definitely like a Tony Hawk Pro skater

12:26

Like if you do grind down it

12:28

you actually an additional character

12:31

Cuz it's so yeah, you unlock Joe Lewis

12:34

Go around punch it everything Or

12:37

just no, no, it's just the

12:39

fist. Yeah standing horizontally

12:42

Yeah, and like the knuckles have like a little face

12:44

on it And there's maybe like two tiny

12:46

feet growing out of the where the elbow would be

12:48

and yeah thing can skate. Yes

12:52

Yeah, yeah, it's sort of like the famous happy

12:54

foot sad foot from Los Angeles

12:56

fame I'm pitching this as DLC for

12:58

the next Tony Hawk game. Hey, you gotta

13:00

do it. Gotta fucking do it. Um

13:03

Alright, she's a voicemail. Yeah,

13:06

let's do a voicemail.

13:07

Hi, Tani and Andrew I belong

13:09

to a small totally white Unitarian

13:11

church where our biggest fundraiser

13:13

of the year is selling organic vegan

13:16

egg rolls at an agricultural fair Is

13:19

this racist and cultural appropriation

13:21

and if so, is there a way to fix

13:23

that? Thanks. Love the show

13:27

Wow, this person seems so wholesome like I I'm

13:30

so used from from years of producing the podcast

13:32

I'm so used to like two different

13:34

genres of colors, which is like actually

13:36

three different genres It was like the completely like

13:38

they obviously just had an argument at their in

13:40

the break room and they're trying to start right listen

13:45

Listen, yeah, the the troll that just leaves

13:47

like a racist comment and then someone who is just completely

13:49

oblivious Yeah, I think so. Like I love I

13:51

love that this wholesome person's It

13:54

was one that was like short and concise to the point

13:57

and just like in and out like I I I feel

13:59

like this is a rare I never want to roast this color

14:01

like they seem to think such a genuinely nice person

14:04

and you've you're as steeped in Chinese

14:08

American cooking bullshit as you're ever gonna

14:10

be yeah Yeah, that is true.

14:12

Yeah, I'm ready for egg roll thing is kind of tricky

14:14

because it's an American

14:17

food See isn't like an American thing.

14:19

Yeah, you know, I

14:21

guess you know There's a kiss I think that

14:23

like specific egg roll wrapper.

14:25

Yeah, but not like spring roll Yeah,

14:28

I've been around for a minute like specific use

14:30

of like yeah, whatever the hell that is

14:32

made out of Which that was on the table.

14:34

I'll just I'll just spoiler alert for our other

14:37

show it will yeah presents Do

14:40

you say the words that are coming out of our mouths? feature

14:42

in Cody's a Cody's

14:45

a learn entity I

14:48

Considered like working

14:50

in some sort of egg roll type thing But

14:53

yeah, I was I was going with spring rolls and I

14:55

feel like the spring roll was the better option Yeah, I

14:57

wasn't trying to do that much deep frying.

14:59

Yeah, I have limited capacity

15:01

for deep frying

15:03

Yeah, I think it's just like

15:06

the type of thing where I want to say Yes,

15:09

it's cultural appropriation because it's

15:12

probably fine. But if you

15:14

give people permission, they're gonna make it racist

15:17

Yeah I would say like

15:20

on its face. It's fine, but you can

15:22

make it bad easily. Yeah Obviously,

15:25

I am NOT from the Asian community or So

15:28

take this with what I'm seeing with the enormous grain

15:30

of salt But I feel

15:32

like I I'm also coming from the idea like this

15:35

like an Americanized thing Yeah, when I think

15:37

of egg rolls, I already think of like

15:39

God fear is like deep stuffed

15:42

egg jalapeno popper egg rolls like I

15:44

feel like from from from my limited

15:46

experience like there's I

15:49

don't know. They're because it is like such

15:51

an in my eyes and Americanized.

15:53

Yeah. Yeah You should food anyway, like I

15:56

feel like there is like a little bit of a leeway

15:58

when it comes to making that

15:59

But again, I could very much be wrong.

16:02

I have not worked in a restaurant in a very long time. And

16:04

also, I don't know if that restaurant was true about whether or not this

16:06

is American-made food, so who knows? I

16:08

think that's it. There's just a way to

16:10

do it, and you know what font

16:13

I'm talking about, that old Chop Suey

16:15

font. That surprisingly impures

16:17

way less than I thought in a

16:19

rush hour. Yeah, we should've

16:22

kind of a rolling tally of Chop Suey font,

16:24

then also there was like, I mean, there's only one

16:26

really all you need. There was one

16:29

such a prominent gong sound in the

16:31

first one when the card hits. But

16:34

it kind of took me out of it for a little

16:36

bit. It's such an egregious use

16:39

of the gong. Less gongs than I thought, yeah, exactly.

16:42

Some gong, but less gong than expected.

16:45

Also, did this caller say that this was for, they

16:47

were selling it, or it was for like a church event? For like a church

16:50

event that I think they were also selling.

16:52

Yeah, or they work at a church. You

16:57

never know how it's gonna hit someone, but I feel

16:59

like this person's safe. I feel like you

17:02

gotta bring such, I feel

17:05

like if you're gonna, like the

17:07

audience is so niche, like they wanna bring smoke

17:09

for this church, they wanna bring smoke for this church

17:11

for having vegan egg rolls, they wanna

17:13

bring smoke for this church for having vegan egg rolls

17:16

that is culturally appropriate. But I

17:18

think this may be a rare that's

17:21

not racist. I think, yeah, I'm just gonna say

17:23

it is, because I... Yeah,

17:25

you gotta stick to a character. You gotta character, you build... Well,

17:28

yeah, also I'm just like, yeah, it's

17:30

like fine, but it's that type

17:32

of thing where like... Is it whack? That's

17:34

the, maybe that's the question. I

17:37

think they probably sound pretty good. You

17:39

know, I was eating it, but I'm seeing like, if you're an outsider,

17:41

you're like, is it racist, or is it whack? And I

17:43

think that maybe if you're just someone walking by, they may say,

17:45

oh, it's whack. Yeah. But I would

17:48

be like, I would, I try it, I try vegan egg rolls. I think I would. I

17:50

try any egg rolls, honestly. Yeah, well, because it's

17:52

just like a deep fried, dough around

17:55

anything. Yeah, probably some, maybe they make,

17:57

only they use the vegan part of it, like, maybe

17:59

like...

17:59

Well, tofu, you can use some

18:02

of that smoked tofu. Beyond meat. Oh,

18:04

yeah. Some smoked tofu, some

18:07

vermicelli noodles, a little bit of cabbage,

18:09

a little bit of carrot, a little bit of shiitake mushroom.

18:12

Okay, here's what you do. Throw some white pepper, a little

18:14

bit of soy sauce, a little bit of sesame oil in there.

18:17

Yeah. A shredded celery.

18:19

A lot of people sleep on the celery. I

18:21

would love to see this color's recipe

18:23

for these vegan eggs. Yeah. Yeah,

18:25

that's the thing. I think it's all fine except

18:28

like, you know, you start

18:30

giving a permission for this and then there's... Oh,

18:33

yeah, yeah, yeah. ... going to be a white people. So,

18:35

I... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm saying it's...

18:38

I agree with you that it's fine, but... And

18:40

I understand that slippery slope arguments are

18:43

logically bullshit,

18:44

but this is definitely one of those first

18:46

steps down a slippery slope that... Look,

18:49

you... Unfortunately, color, I would love to co-sign

18:51

this for you when Andrea's revoked it. I

18:54

would still love to try your vegan egg rolls because

18:56

they sound delicious. Also, you seem like

18:58

an actual nice, pleasant person. So

19:02

that's really a lot of my points. Maybe

19:04

some woodier mushrooms, if you can find them. I wonder what

19:06

the rest of their menu looks like. I wonder if it's like

19:09

just like a couple of... If they're doing

19:11

a whole potluck thing or if it's just like, oh, like... All right.

19:14

If the call is called in, we're 100% not going to

19:16

replay

19:17

a new call about this, but we

19:19

will take... Accept any information and I will

19:21

pass it on.

19:22

Ooh, maybe they could send a picture of the egg roll,

19:25

like a cross section, like, you know, when you cut it. Oh,

19:27

yeah. That'd be cool. Tell me

19:29

how far away my recipe was. Yeah.

19:32

I think it was close. All right. Yeah.

19:35

Let's take a little break and we'll come back and we'll do more

19:37

VMs. All right,

19:41

we're

19:45

back. You think you also had at work really

19:48

Andrea's in them VMs? I'm

19:51

just... Yeah, yeah. Slide into

19:53

my VMs. Slide into our VMs. At...

19:56

3-2-3-3-9-7-2-2-3. That's 3-2-3-3-9-RACE. Get

19:59

that.

19:59

that in early, leave your VMs

20:02

and fuck it. Let's, let's just do another one

20:04

now.

20:05

Hi, my partner and I are moving

20:07

in together and we're looking at buying a house in

20:09

Durham, North Carolina. Sometimes

20:12

some of these houses are in a neighborhood with plantation

20:15

as part of the name,

20:16

or there's a nearby street named plantation.

20:19

I have a knee jerk reaction of not

20:22

wanting to have anything to do with that. Probably

20:24

in part from listening to this podcast. I

20:27

know that stuff hanging onto the name plantation is

20:29

racist,

20:30

but a lot of the time those are outside of town

20:32

and are best places we can afford.

20:35

Durham is pretty progressive and diverse.

20:38

And I sort of assume that if the neighborhood

20:40

is a place I want to live, then

20:43

the locals would have already fought back to change

20:45

the name or else that the people

20:47

who named it plantation did

20:49

it because they didn't care about attracting people of color.

20:52

So should I just immediately rule

20:55

these places out? But

20:57

also it's the South and the

20:59

legislature is really shitty about legacy racism,

21:02

so maybe that's just going to be part of the area

21:04

for awhile. I'd love your thoughts on how

21:06

to navigate this. Also, if my partner

21:09

hasn't seen the notice things like this, should

21:12

I reevaluate moving in with her? Thanks.

21:14

Bye.

21:15

Oh man,

21:17

there was, yeah, there was going so good until that heavy

21:20

tack on at the end. Um, if I may,

21:22

as someone who is from North Carolina. I know.

21:25

Yeah. Which I thank you for tailoring this

21:27

call. Right. Yeah. I know you did a lot

21:29

of time making sure. I

21:32

know you put in a lot of work in this one, Andrew. So I appreciate

21:34

you taking the extra. No doubt. No doubt. Yeah.

21:36

Um, as someone who is from North Carolina

21:39

and is familiar with the Raleigh Durham, well,

21:41

all that Piedmont triangle area, um,

21:44

I would say, uh, you, the color seemed

21:46

to sort of, um, hit it a little bit as

21:48

far as it just being like legacy racism, but

21:50

yeah, there's going to be a lot of like general leads or like,

21:52

you know, those, those types of places are just going to be there,

21:54

uh, by virtue of fact that you're in the South

21:57

and a part of the country, the South that had

21:59

a pretty. good, pretty good, I mean good

22:02

meaning large slave

22:06

slave infrastructure. Also,

22:10

this may sound weird to hear but like as

22:12

someone who was from the South like I can almost

22:15

guarantee you most of the people that live

22:17

in that place I don't know I haven't heard that street

22:19

it may be a good street maybe a bad street I can almost

22:21

guarantee you they have not put one

22:24

ounce of thought into like oh plantation

22:26

is bad I want to change the place that

22:28

I live on plantation street I should talk

22:30

to someone to do that like I can almost guarantee you it's just not

22:32

even the thing that they even think about probably like

22:35

nine times out of ten it's just like oh this is a

22:37

group on the street I

22:39

don't even make the connotation or the connection between

22:42

plantation and enslavement so

22:45

there's that going for it but also

22:48

like yeah it's a you know it's it's as progressive

22:50

as any place can be like

22:52

it's still going to be racist like yeah you

22:55

know it's like the color the colors

22:57

really got a lot of faith

23:00

in yeah I mean look there's there's

23:02

it's more progressive than like the sticks

23:05

definitely is more progressive than the town

23:08

that I grew up in but like you know it's still you know

23:10

the South like

23:12

I I mean I don't I don't

23:15

think it's gonna be terrible color

23:17

but I would just sort of maybe

23:20

I don't know where you're coming from as well but also I

23:22

would maybe be a little bit more

23:24

cognizant or maybe be open

23:27

to the realization that the area may be

23:29

not as progressive as you think it will be or at

23:32

least if it is you know nine times out of ten

23:34

it is progressive as you think it will be there will be moments

23:37

right oh yes I live in a place that was built

23:39

infrastructurally from the enslavement

23:42

of black people and

23:44

that is an idea and like that it just has

23:46

permeated for hundreds of years there DNA

23:49

of the city

23:50

of the cities that people

23:52

like there will be challenges that you face

23:54

and you probably will see moments like oh wow that was really racist

23:56

that was really fucking racist like and you

23:58

may say to yourself I can't believe that actually has happened as

24:00

opposed to people who maybe live

24:03

there like, oh yeah, that's just Tuesday. You

24:05

should believe that. I think the thing that is

24:07

maybe a wee bit Pollyanna about our

24:10

caller is you

24:13

can believe you need to believe

24:15

that it happened. Yeah. Because

24:17

it happens routinely. And also, you

24:20

know,

24:21

the, you know, I

24:23

don't know, I can't even imagine

24:26

what could be going on in the world right now that

24:28

might start to indicate that white

24:31

progressives don't always

24:33

do things with logical

24:36

clarity or moral clarity. Especially,

24:40

it is a marginalized people. Yeah.

24:43

Yeah. With that said, I do like the area is very lovely.

24:45

Like there's some really lovely

24:46

people there or like really

24:48

great communities, really beautiful. But I would just be like,

24:51

you know, you're in America and you're in a place in

24:53

America that was somehow

24:55

even more racist than most parts of America.

24:57

So I just just be open to the realization that maybe

24:59

reality is going to be different than what you think it is. Here's

25:03

a second Cody Ziegler ish tailored

25:06

sort of related question. Yeah. What

25:09

cookbook shops are in Raleigh? Because I

25:11

am, no, the other side of your life,

25:14

your time in Georgia. Oh, yeah.

25:16

Like what the fuck is up with

25:18

Stone Mountain? Oh, smoke,

25:21

smoke. Oh, I guess it's

25:23

called Stone Mountain. Yeah, they have a giant Confederacy

25:27

monument etched to the side. But

25:30

also like the community currently is

25:32

like pretty black around it. Is that right?

25:35

Yeah. I mean, smoke rides, all that places. Like that's

25:37

where our good friend, Kyle Drew and his sister

25:39

are from. It's just, I mean,

25:41

it's Atlanta. So it's just black. It's just

25:44

out of black people. But like I was, I

25:46

was only, I only went there once

25:48

and I was, even I was like, man,

25:50

this is wild. Even

25:53

for me, who is from a pretty racist part

25:55

of

25:56

the country.

25:57

But I, it's, it seemed like,

25:59

you know,

25:59

There are a lot of people

26:02

that I hung out with that age, yeah, this is stupid

26:04

and trash, but it affected

26:07

them as much as I expected it to, but also

26:09

I don't know that.

26:12

I really only talk to Kyle and

26:14

his sister as far as

26:16

them being. Yeah, this is really weird. It's

26:18

weird that this is a thing that exists. It

26:21

would be the first to cover it up when it goes, but yeah,

26:24

it's just an institution there. It's just like it is

26:26

a thing that exists there. I think there's

26:29

gonna be a microcosm of that in Raleigh

26:31

and just North Carolina in general, you're gonna

26:34

be, I think maybe sort of shocked by the thing

26:36

that you see. I guess maybe right, so

26:38

yeah, as a response to the caller,

26:41

a black neighborhood,

26:43

a black area still houses a literal

26:46

monument to the Confederacy. So

26:49

just kind of realize the institutional,

26:53

to put it like charitably, would say an institutional

26:56

inertia and realistically

26:58

we'll call it the fucking racism

27:00

everywhere. But

27:03

yeah, should you dump your partner because they don't care? I

27:06

of course say yes, but I'm an unreasonable

27:08

man. Yeah, I would say, I don't

27:10

know the nuances of your relationship. I don't know if

27:12

they don't care if they can clock it, if

27:14

it's one of the things of them not clocking in, you

27:17

just have the conversation in much of

27:19

the same way that you maybe haven't necessarily

27:21

clocked that you may be moving into an environment

27:24

that is not as uniformly

27:26

progressive as you may wish. I think

27:28

I would just have that conversation. So Andrew

27:30

is more fire and brimstone, I'm more

27:34

maybe not necessarily like nuke it from orbit just

27:36

yet. Yeah,

27:40

there you go. That was great. It's

27:42

called balance. I got one

27:44

more voicemail, right? Here we go.

27:46

Hi, Yochu.

27:48

White guy probably overthinking something here.

27:52

Would it be problematic if I got a Tracy

27:54

Morgan tattoo? Specifically,

27:57

because Astronaut Jones care for him from Saturday

27:59

Night Live.

28:00

Got a bunch of other like sci-fi to do

28:02

and who's on a leg. I fear that fit

28:04

in nice That's

28:07

I just don't know

28:08

am I overthinking this?

28:10

That's so funny That

28:13

guy had a perfect he really had

28:15

the perfect storm of like accent and

28:17

insane question Man, I got a question

28:19

for you. So I love that. I love

28:22

that Spaceman Jones also,

28:24

that's one of my favorite SNL sketches like I

28:26

still sing the theme song maybe once

28:28

or twice a week Check out

28:31

astronaut Jones. It's just the theme song is fantastic

28:35

I'm gonna say this is just I

28:37

want to say it's it's not racist But

28:40

you will probably have to explain who astronaut

28:42

Jones is every single person

28:45

that looks at it To

28:48

you, they don't know who who astronaut

28:51

Jones is or what the game of that sketch is That's

28:53

a weird one and I guess like

28:56

tattoos can get pretty like photorealistic

28:59

Yeah, I guess what depends you how realistic you're gonna be

29:01

is it gonna be like more of a cartoon? Illustrative

29:04

styles would be more like photorealistic.

29:07

Yeah What a what a

29:09

what a delightfully weird question.

29:12

Wait, what was your take into what was your answer? I

29:15

mean, I guess I'm just like look,

29:18

there are definitely ways this could turn out bad and

29:20

it's gonna be on your body forever, but You

29:23

know, I there's probably something like obviously

29:25

the color acknowledged is probably overthinking it but like

29:28

I mean look I know that I

29:30

Am part of the problem in this but there has

29:32

to be a way to like

29:34

For white people to do

29:36

stuff like depict people of color

29:39

without like worrying about

29:41

Like this in this way. Yeah, maybe

29:44

I don't know. That's very funny

29:46

He's overthinking but not overthinking

29:49

it

29:49

too too much I just dropped a

29:51

picture of astronaut Jones in the chat for those who may

29:53

not remember what he looks like But oh, yeah,

29:56

it's just a picture that I think he's gonna get which is Tracy

30:00

Morgan with the guitar decks with spaceship, but I

30:02

think that'd be pretty funny honestly or it's

30:04

him in like the Stereoscope

30:07

like EP cover. Yeah,

30:09

that could be pretty funny. I'm not gonna lie I honestly

30:12

the more I talk about it the more I'm gonna get your love

30:14

of this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

30:16

Yeah, we get astro zones next to my next

30:19

to my I'm also not as much

30:21

of a tattoo guy Yeah, but you have

30:23

said you only have one tattoo, right? I got the one

30:26

I'm like a person that just was like Yeah,

30:29

yeah one

30:30

Good. You got a pretty you got a pretty

30:32

decent sleeve going. Yeah, I have

30:35

one tattoo, but it's just enormous It just takes

30:37

up. I got a true I got I showed that I'm

30:39

sort of getting it like a traditional Japanese tattoo

30:41

So it is one tattoo, but it is

30:43

made up like 12 different elements. I

30:46

forgot to ask are you is it? Done

30:49

where you know? I

30:51

was gonna get more but then the strike happened So

30:54

I was like I can't justify spending a grand

30:56

right for more I can't just for spending

30:58

for grand over the course

31:00

of like four different sessions until I get a

31:02

job again Yeah, that's probably

31:05

once I get my next gig. I will finally complete

31:07

complete this nice Yeah, dope.

31:10

No, this is the riveting audio

31:12

to this. Yeah. Yeah, we really Yeah,

31:16

the audience is asking for more begging

31:19

for more yeah, that's your

31:21

aunt Jones, okay

31:23

Yeah, listen if if you're

31:25

comfortable

31:26

You know Drawing or

31:29

owning a depiction of a black person.

31:31

I guess it's got to be right up

31:33

there. Yeah But yeah

31:35

get a good one. Maybe that's it. Maybe

31:37

you get a fucking good one. Yeah, like

31:39

it's gonna be really It's got to be really good

31:42

because otherwise

31:45

bad

31:46

Alright a little little little mailbag episode

31:49

this week We did I feel like we did so many

31:51

plugs because it just flowed so naturally from

31:54

our riveting conversation Yeah, well the

31:56

thing is we did the 200 in which is I think the audience really

31:58

really pretty. Yeah, Scott. I love it Yeah,

32:00

and love our love in our dynamic. Do

32:02

you even know when new episodes

32:04

of our

32:05

earwolf presenting come out? every

32:08

Friday In November so every

32:10

Friday November will be on airwolf presents. So

32:12

check that out

32:14

It will present. Do you understand the words to coming

32:16

out of our mouths with Cody's a go to Andrew T? I

32:19

like my individual. Oh, sorry. Go ahead Andrew.

32:22

Oh, they say we I forgot about the

32:24

release day We forgot we had a chance to do

32:26

a Thanksgiving related episode. Oh,

32:28

yeah, I guess we yeah Yeah, well, that's what happens

32:30

when you are flying when we record

32:33

four episodes over the course of like a week You

32:36

know so tired. Yeah, it was we

32:39

could we if there's ever a Sequel

32:41

series for people are begging for yeah. Yeah clamoring

32:44

We

32:47

can maybe do that but

32:50

speaking of Holiday themed

32:52

stuff

32:53

my final plugs are

32:55

miles from wireless spider-man number 12 comes

32:58

out in November Which will be tying

33:00

up a Halloween issue that I had which was

33:02

fun him and blade And

33:06

I've got a daughter now, yeah, Brielle Brooks

33:08

that they're dope I love they live in Atlanta got purple

33:11

hair piercings. It's honestly like right up my alley.

33:13

It's it's really really cool Rick

33:16

and Morty episode our season 7 is out. I

33:18

wrote Episode 6 depending

33:20

on whenever that comes out. I can't remember what the title

33:22

of it is I'm like actually I do that a title

33:24

the title is Rick fending your more. So There's

33:27

all the plugs like that three two three three

33:29

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