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Hello. Welcome. Welcome to

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Well, yeah, exactly. We just like to be

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early. Yes.

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I couldn't help but wonder. Ask me anything.

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You ask many questions. We're

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going to be discussing the correct order to do

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your makeup because yes, there is a correct way

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if you want it to look flawless. But first,

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there is a question from Mon. Hey,

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ladies. Love your work. I'm just wondering,

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do you have any recommendations for how

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to prevent or treat

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shaving rash specifically in the

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underarm area? It's literally something

1:12

that's plagued me my whole life and it

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really hurts but also looks not

1:18

so great. And I don't want to feel self-conscious

1:20

to like fix my hair in public if I'm

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wearing a little strappy top because my armpits are

1:24

a mess. Lasers have helped

1:26

like a little bit in the past, but it isn't

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really an option for me right now, you know, Cosy

1:30

lives and all that. Yeah. Any

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suggestions you have? Big thanks. Love

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you guys. Hi, Mon. I also

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feel you. Not so much

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under my arms, but I get strawberry

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legs, like little red, pinky bumps

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when I shave. But have I had laser? No. Could

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I probably get laser for free? Yes. Would I pay

1:47

for it? Yes. Can I be bothered? No. No,

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same. I'm a shaver. I shave my arms, my

1:51

legs, my underarms, my face. I shave my bush

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too. Oh, me too. I trim my bush and

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then shave the sides. Yeah, I clipper. We're just

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shavers. So you've come to the right place, unfortunately.

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this is not good for the environment but very

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important. A new razor head each time or every

2:05

two maybe three times. Don't

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store the razor in the shower razor part down

2:09

like touching something or sitting in water because it

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will go gross. So put it in the shower

2:13

or take it out of the shower and put

2:15

the head up just to keep those

2:17

blades really fresh. But I change it probably

2:19

every two times but keep in mind I'm

2:21

shaving like everything. It's a full body shave.

2:24

I don't often do shave depends

2:26

like if I've got a nothing week I just

2:28

let my legs go crazy. In

2:30

summer I'll shave under my arms more than the

2:32

rest of me because I put my hands up

2:34

and stuff. Winter I forget

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it until I'm really really itchy. Hence

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why my goal with this winter is to get laser done.

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But there's other things we can do. Shave

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with a shower oil makes

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a huge difference. No irritation. Yeah it

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just is like a first cleanse for

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under your arms. It's glidier. So you've

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mentioned this one before the Thanks to

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Nature Nourish Sweet Armand Oil. You

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get it from Woolies. It's 10 bucks or $10 at

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the time of recording. It was 20

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but it's huge. I bought it when you told me

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to. Great for under the arm. That's a really good one.

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Another one I really love it's very cost

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effective is the Bioderma Atoderm Ultra Nourishing

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Cleansing Shower Oil. It's a litre. Oh my god. You

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can use it for your face. You can use it

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for your body. I've talked about using it on my

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body before but great for shaving and not just under

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arms all over. $46.99 but guys

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it's a litre of oil. It looks

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like it belongs in your kitchen. That's

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really good. Then the type of

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deodorant you use will actually really make

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a difference. Some can be quite irritating.

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There's a brand called Vanny Cream Deodorant

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for Sensitive Skin. It's on

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iHerb and it's literally super gentle. It's

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like a gel. It's fragrance free, aluminum

3:44

free, aluminium. We say aluminium. I've got

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a really good rating for people with

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sensitive skin. There is also the Nivea

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Pearl and Beauty 48 Hour

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Aerosol Deodorant. That again

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is for nourishing the underarms infused with

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oils and rich with pearl acne. extracts

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to nourish your pits. Oh,

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I always find that aerosol ones really irritate

4:04

me and I'm not prone to... Yeah. I

4:07

don't try that specific one though. I'm a hardcore like

4:09

Mitcham or Rexona clinical. I think. Well,

4:12

you know that I've become the natural

4:14

deodorant girl. And

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I did have a couple of different DMs

4:18

from people who do suffer from this and

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they actually said, I didn't even buy the

4:23

deodorant you recommended because of my underarm problems,

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but just so you know, it's cleared them

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up. Oh, because you're not putting

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that stuff that's obviously irritating it. Pre-pregnancy and

4:32

I mean that was five years ago, but

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I was a natural deodorant girl, but some

4:36

of them can irritate because there's something in

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it. Anyway, essential oils can still irritate your

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skin. That's so true. So sharp razor, shave

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with an oil, a really

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great gentle, caring, nourishing deodorant. And then also

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just moisturize that area as well. Like when

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I do my full body moisturizer, I do

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under my arm. Yep. Lots

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of people don't. But it gets crusty, not crusty, but dry. But

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yeah, you know what? Mine's quite dry right now. Yeah, I'm putting

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my hands in my shoes. But now I'm going to have a

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whiff of my natural deodorant pit. Not

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bad. Let's just normalize the fact that we

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get spots. I'm sure it's uncomfortable, but if you get eye, I

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always get like little pimples on my back. I've

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got my legs. The side of my badge, like because that's

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for a shave. Yes. I'm usually really

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lazy and use like an old razor that's just in a shower because I'll

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look down and go, whoa. I

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got to get rid of that. Who cares?

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Yeah, but it's a labor of love, but it'll make a big difference. And

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you mentioned that laser helps a little bit

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in the past, but it's not an option

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for you right now. There are really gentle,

5:28

not epilators. What's that cream? Hair

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removal cream. Yeah, hair removal cream. There's some that are

5:32

designed for the intimate area and underarms. That is such

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a good suggestion. They're really not. They're really not. It

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does a sensitive one. I'm sure heaps of brands do.

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They do. Like I wouldn't try waxing my own

5:40

underarms, but you put this on, you let it kind

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of munch away at the hair, then you wipe off

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a tiny bit and check if the hair is like

5:47

basically dissolved. But if you haven't used

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one of those for a long time, they used to

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be super hectic. So really chemically. So really chemically. Melted.

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Melted. And you can use the gentle

5:56

ones that do the job. So you could try that because

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you're not then swiping like a blade. over your

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skin which by default kind of exfoliating and a

6:02

bit irritating. So yeah cream hair removal could be

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another option. When you said epilator I thought you

6:07

were going to recommend, do you remember those old

6:09

school torture devices where they pulled the hair out?

6:11

They were just teeny tiny tweezers. Over and over

6:13

and over again. My mum got me one. I

6:16

thought my mum horrible. It was truly horrible. Look

6:18

I'm sure they've come a long way too but

6:20

yeah a gentle cream that kind of melts away

6:22

the hair is another option. Next

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up a question from Jess. Hey guys can

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you talk me through step by step the order

6:36

of doing your makeup? Like do

6:38

I go foundation, concealer, then powder

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and blurring powder and then blush

6:43

and bronzer? What order do I do

6:45

it in? I'm so confused. Yes there is

6:47

a wrong way to do things however for

6:49

some people it actually works. I reckon yours and

6:51

mine will be different. Actually yeah. Walk me through

6:54

your face. Medium-ish look. Like

6:56

you're not going to a concert but

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you're not just schlepping around back and

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forth to daycare. Okay I would prime

7:02

my face after my skincare and sunscreen.

7:05

Yes well I just include that in

7:07

skincare. Skincare sunscreen is

7:09

done. Next up I'm going to prime and

7:11

then like I don't know fiddle around with

7:13

my hair while that gets a bit tacky.

7:16

Then I will go in with foundation

7:18

or like a light skin tint. Then

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I do concealer, bronzer, blush,

7:23

all cream products. I was

7:25

going to ask the text shame point. And

7:27

then I go in to set any area

7:30

that I want more coverage with powder products

7:32

in that category. And are you using a

7:34

setting mist? At the very end because it's

7:36

just a nice but not too nice sort

7:39

of a day. Yes okay. If we're talking

7:41

intense makeup. Like you go to the Oscars.

7:43

Oh we're doing concealer and a bronze under

7:45

the foundation. We're under painting and over painting.

7:48

I think that we're doing setting mists in

7:50

between the steps. Oh my goodness. That's not

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for me. Okay yeah that's not Jess. Jess

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I've written down my order. I agree with Kelly.

7:57

It's individual. Play around with your makeup and see

7:59

what you're doing. what layers fit better on others.

8:01

Like you might love a clean blush and then

8:03

try a new clean blush, but it moves when

8:05

you put it on top of whatever. So it

8:07

also depends on the specific products, but generally I

8:09

have done my sunscreen, rarely use

8:12

primer, I do foundation. Then I

8:14

use a teeny tiny bit of eye serum, which is

8:16

a skincare product, but I'll get to that. Then

8:19

I do my eye makeup. So it's usually a

8:21

little bit of liner, curl my lashes, my mascara.

8:23

Then I'll do my concealer under my eyes because

8:26

I just have let that eye serum deucify

8:28

my fine lines, which I really need. Then

8:31

I'll do my bronzer, which is generally always a

8:33

powder. Then I'll do my cheek highlight, which is

8:35

generally always a liquid. Then I'll

8:38

do settings spray. I give my settings spray

8:40

five to 10 minutes, I'll do something else. Then I've

8:42

powder my T-zone with a translucent because I am a sharny,

8:44

sharny girl. So it sounds like

8:46

a lot of steps. It takes me under five

8:48

minutes. Yeah, same with mine for this everyday sort

8:50

of look. Yeah, I have to sit down and

8:52

go, what do I do? Sometimes I will

8:55

do my curl my lashes and all that

8:57

stuff before I've done any foundation or anything.

9:00

But for me, yeah, foundation, then concealer,

9:03

then powder bronzer, then a highlighter. I

9:05

think the biggest thing is that you

9:07

don't want to be putting all of

9:09

your powder products on and then your

9:11

cream or juicy. Because it often moves

9:13

it around. It'll move it around and

9:15

it just tends to then sort of

9:17

separate really easily. I agree. So

9:20

you can sort of do it in whatever

9:22

order you want, but general rule of thumb,

9:25

cream, juicy products first, then

9:27

you go on. Yeah, under powder, exactly. I

9:29

agree. The only reason I do my cheek highlight

9:31

after my bronzer is because it's very liquidy and

9:34

I just pack. I'm not blending, I'm

9:36

not swiping. I literally pack, pack, pack, pack, pack. But

9:39

I agree, yeah. The general rule is creams under

9:41

powders if that helps. But there's no wrong answer.

9:44

Get your makeup out. But you're putting eyeshadow on. Oh, you

9:46

know what? Do whatever you want. On your nose. Yeah, I

9:48

think I've seen it. Actually, I was about to say, do

9:50

it. Never

9:52

do such a thing. I would love to hear other people's

9:54

orders. How many steps, what order they do it in. I

9:57

know you love primer. I maybe use it once a month.

10:00

So once again the difference between dry,

10:02

oily or combo. I'm trying to minimise

10:04

myself. That extra step for me

10:06

is essential otherwise I would have to do so

10:08

many skincare layers in order to not have a

10:11

primer. Okay, can everyone please jump in the Facebook

10:13

group and tell us your order. I'm desperate to

10:15

know. Maybe we can make some little slides like

10:17

minimal girl, this is your order, medium girl. Yes.

10:20

Yeah. What

10:28

a hack. You

10:30

leak packs. Ho, pack. You

10:34

put sorry Kelly. Ha, ha, ha,

10:36

ha, ha. In the document. What

10:39

are you apologizing for? Did

10:42

you go to Kmart without me? Is that what you're apologizing

10:44

for? No. Okay, so many,

10:46

many moons ago, Kelly and I used to film

10:49

versions of this podcast. That was so much fun.

10:51

We had to sit so close and I was

10:53

always like, I've got the worst coffee brew. Amolah,

10:55

we both always do. I never noticed. They

10:58

live on for Mama Mia subs, you can

11:00

watch them. But we often showed our hosts

11:02

and just different tips and tricks. And

11:04

when I watch back and watch Kelly's face, when

11:07

I'm applying my mascara, it killed her. But

11:10

let me explain. I'm a rushy person.

11:13

I rush everything. I basically break everything.

11:16

So the fact that I apply my mascara

11:18

so messily shouldn't shock people that know me.

11:20

It shouldn't shock anyone. But the fact that

11:22

you're a rushy person, but you're just doubling

11:24

the work for yourself. I know it's faster.

11:26

But also I'm not an intricate eyeshadow person

11:28

because this would not work for an intricate

11:30

eyeshadow person. I'm liner, curl lashes, and then

11:32

I just go hell for leather with my

11:34

mascara. It goes all over my lip. Can

11:37

we please find a clip for the socials?

11:39

Because honestly, I've never seen

11:41

anything quite like it. But it takes me so

11:43

much longer to be so precise and not try

11:45

and hit my lips. I've got to

11:47

go so much time before my mascara dries. So I'm in

11:49

a rush. So I go, Then I

11:52

let my bits that are all over my eyes

11:54

kind of set a bit. I've got one of

11:56

those pump things. It's from Kmart. It's the OXX

11:58

Travel airless pump. campaign. I think it's three dollars

12:00

for Dallas and that full of my fellow or

12:03

six my makeup situation. I get a cruise ship

12:05

pentagram, i sell order and then I just remove

12:07

all of that where it's of. I'm trying to

12:09

be super super careful of not getting the sky

12:11

everywhere. I can't get enough with our on. my

12:14

last isn't big enough for you and go to

12:16

town and make a mass. My losses look amazing

12:18

than I just cleaned up with the to to

12:20

it. So if you're a Messy Musker ago, Permission.

12:23

To be messy and sorry adults say the

12:25

script sorry Kelly ha ha ha. still like

12:27

were filming and all but know I know

12:29

this is how I am trying to make

12:31

like a funny set up my high tech

12:33

get messy and clean it up for at

12:35

my i think it's about being not miss.

12:37

okay mine is all about i lead prep

12:40

and just how important it is especially. If

12:42

you. Likely compared notes that

12:44

we could easily didn't say something for everyone

12:46

on this episode. Humans our own him and

12:48

clean up afterwards and I'm like seen a

12:50

to Paths or I know. Because

12:54

I do notice the difference every now and

12:56

then. If I'm just like being lazy or

12:58

in a rush or whatever, I would just

13:00

start talking. I sat alone and then I'm

13:03

like oh, it looks like Billie Clay P

13:05

in a little bit, like it's dry, even

13:07

if it's a really nice formula. I'm not

13:10

S and then I think Paul. He didn't

13:12

pluck them properly. So what are we

13:14

doing? Some what we're doing is we're

13:16

guessing. tiny tiny little bit of moisturize.

13:18

I often your eye area is generally

13:20

quite oily in the city I could

13:22

not from my says anyone a mile.

13:24

It's a just like a touch between

13:26

your ring a senior aides via a

13:28

guy in Iraq and then process. On.

13:31

Your eyelids. And. Then like

13:33

let it dry and case in my life

13:35

sustaining is have been doing to i said

13:37

or basis but I'm not gonna recommended access

13:39

to manage the varied said am I going

13:42

to ease and I said or by so

13:44

primer what I like those yes yeah there's

13:46

a new Pet Mcgraw one that. Whole

13:49

lead to li eat his tools.

13:51

are you friendly goods are lucky and my axe

13:53

on it that and i'm sorry may seem like

13:55

a that that the gc solid know as

13:57

great so yeah only ago or like the Louise.

14:00

It's almost like a creamy color. I

14:02

really like that one too. So I'll

14:04

pop those on sometimes both. And

14:07

then I use tiny little amount the above. And

14:09

then I set with a tiny little bit of

14:11

like a translucent

14:14

powder, like the tiniest amount. Can I ask because

14:16

this is where I think I get scared of

14:19

eyeshadow because sometimes I use an eyeshadow primer, but

14:21

then it's too grippy and my shadow doesn't blend

14:23

on top. It like grabs the shadow. So should

14:25

I set it with a bit of translucent? That's

14:27

what I like to do. And also maybe you're

14:29

not waiting long enough. It needs to be

14:31

dry, but it goes tacky. I don't know.

14:33

It should be dry. I think my oil

14:36

underneath is letting it not set. And maybe

14:38

you need the translucent over the top just

14:40

because then it's just like this perfect primed

14:42

canvas ready to go and everything's going to

14:44

go on so beautifully. Is it going to

14:47

last longer? Yeah. And look better. It's also

14:49

less likely to stain because we've put those

14:51

layers and watch our eyelids. Yeah. My eyeshadow,

14:53

because I go so intense with the pigment,

14:55

stains my eyelids. My lordy. But that's like

14:57

less likely to happen with the layers. And

14:59

it doesn't take any redness or purpleness out

15:01

there. You can see the vibrant color. Really bright

15:03

blank canvas. Doesn't look crusty.

15:06

Last for ages. Okay. If you're

15:08

going somewhere fancy, you want to do that. Better just

15:10

to prep properly. I've been thinking about doing a bit

15:12

of blue eyeshadow. You especially with today's outfit, you know,

15:14

it looks really cool as well. If you did like

15:16

a like a like a floating liner.

15:19

Okay. No. Okay. On that note,

15:22

if I ever do a tiny bit of blue shadow

15:24

on the waterline, I'll let you know. And

15:27

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