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Welcome to you , betcha , she Did . Today
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, we're diving into the story of Emily Fell
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, who's all about shaking things up and
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building big dreams for autistic adults
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. You know we often get caught
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up in the tales of women who've
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already made it big or halfway there , but
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what about those starting out ? Well
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, emily's here to show us that journeys
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, their journeys , the people who are just
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beginning , are just as vital . Emily
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is on a mission to open doors for autistic
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adults , paving the way for more housing
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and career training opportunities . She
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is a superhero for inclusivity , taking
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on the world's norms and fighting for a fair
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shot for everybody . Emily's
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story proves that dreams don't have to have
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an expiration date and that even the smallest
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voice can make a big impact . Ready
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to be inspired , let's dive
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in . Did
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she really do that , you , betcha
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? She did . Hello , and welcome back to another episode
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of you , betcha , she Did , the podcast where
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women entrepreneurs
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, changemakers and leaders , especially from the Midwest , share their wit and wisdom . I'm your host , raina
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McKickey , and today in the studio I have Emily
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Fell . She is the CEO of Website
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Designs that Shine , but also
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she is on a mission to help
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adults with autism , and that is what we're going to
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dive into today . Emily , welcome
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to the show , thank you . So
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Emily is a fellow Wisconsinite
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from the Milwaukee area and Emily
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, let's just dive in with you , sharing your personal
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journey and experiences you know , as
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a single mom and autistic daughter , and
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what led you to this goal of creating careers
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and affordable housing for autistic individuals
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.
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All right . Well , I was a stay-at-home
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mom slash teacher back in the day
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. So picture this my
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first daughter passed away back in 2008
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from a fatal birth defect , and then I
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got pregnant again in 2010
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. And then that same daughter ends up
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in the NICU after I find out that
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she has an adverse reaction to a vaccine . Like
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I find this out like way later Then
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at the NICU she got another vaccine
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, the same one , but another dose of it , because
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they didn't talk and because it was at a different hospital
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. So so that's like stressful
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already , you know . First you know a daughter that
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passed away , and then a daughter end
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up in the NICU and
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so fast forward a little bit
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. She ends up in birth to three . She
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has in home therapy , she has
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. She has schools , like part time school , part
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time therapy therapy or
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full time school , but it's at the special autism
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school that does it like ABA therapy
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version of it .
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Yeah , I'm just gonna interrupt for a second . Did you know
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right away that she was autistic , or that's
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something you found out after a couple years ? She
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?
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had some developmental delays
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and then after she got
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vaccinated again , she stopped
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. Her delays kept happening , like
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she stopped talking , and then she
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was diagnosed at age two and a half . Okay , so
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I kind of had some inklings
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. And then all in this hot mix
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of autism , stuff Right , figuring
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everything out , yeah , super hard . Yeah
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, very hard . And then I got divorced . So
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, like you know , add that to the
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craziness . So then I became a single
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mom . So then I had to work . So
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trying to be a single mom , working with a kid with a disability
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, plus another kid , it was tough . It's gotten easier
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and better , I would have to say that , definitely for sure
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. But when she got diagnosed at age
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about two and a half , I was like you know what my
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mission in life is ? To start
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a center for ? At first I thought I was going to
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do like for kids , but then , as
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you know , I learn more
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and find out more that the
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kids are pretty much well served . We have
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to think ahead , like as moms , like when
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I'm gone I'm probably sad , of course , when I'm , you
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know , old and dead and gone and stuff . But like
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, but my daughter , you know , to
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plan for the worst case scenario
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I'm , I want to make sure that everything
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is in place for her , so like housing
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. I mean she can live with me if she wants , but I
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would like her to have a place to live eventually
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. Career training like my
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reasoning behind the career training being added to the center
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that I want is because back
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in the day . People I won't name any names but
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people thought that because she's nonverbal
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, she won't amount to anything , she won't be able to have a
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career . Options , like you know , typical
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people like us , you know like . So
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she's musical , she loves music , so
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she will be fine . I'm not worried about that part .
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Yeah , let's circle back to that , because you
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know you've obviously experienced the system . You
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know being a mom to a child who has autistic
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tendencies and what that's like as
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a parent , and then for your daughter . So
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then look into the future , like you said , when
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she's older and could be independent
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. What specific challenges have you encountered
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? You know , like what's currently out there
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, does anything exist for autistic individuals
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in terms of housing and career paths ?
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So there are places already and
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some schools , like the school district that
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she's in now Greendale School District it's really good . They
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have a great like after 18 kind
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of transition program that
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I'm not worried about that , Like she can use if she
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wants to and then , or if we
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, you know , if we don't have this in place already
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. I have a name
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picked out for my center . It's called Amazing Grace
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because her name is Grace . So
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there are places already that exist and
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are in the works of becoming housing
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and like career training . I think
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like there's a couple that are more focused on other things
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and like they have like housing as the main thing and they're
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focused on other things .
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So where do the gaps begin ? Like where you're
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like . This is why I need to fulfill my mission
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of supplying autistic housing
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and career paths .
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So the main reason is there's not enough . Okay
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, so like even even right now
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, with the adults that are adults
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right now with autism or disabilities
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or neurodivergence , whatever you want to call it , there's
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not enough for them right now and now , like , in five
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years there's going to be even more . So
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there's no way we're going to have enough if
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people don't start building more
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. So that's my mission
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is to make sure there's more . I
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mean , I don't know if there ever will be enough , but
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that's my goal is to make enough , especially
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at least for my daughter in the Milwaukee area or
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wherever it happens to land
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. And so that's
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the main reason . But the more
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specific reason is we want
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all kids or adults to
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have a place to be . There's so many things
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that go into this right now , there's so many moving parts , but
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there's not enough . The supply versus
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demand , and then just
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making sure kids now
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and adults later will have
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a place to be yeah , exactly .
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And , like you said , also feel valued be
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part of the community . Yep , exactly
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, yeah , so kind of going off of that . You know you were talking
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before about how often people have this stereotype
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of neurodivergent kids , autistic kids
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, where it's like , well , they can't do anything , they
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can't have a career and you're trying to reeducate
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people right to say that's not true
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. So what kind of steps do you think need to be
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put in place to ensure autistic adults
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feel valued and supported ?
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in careers . I think it starts in
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schools . I think it starts
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in the schools , like having the
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teachers be on board , and it's
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hard for the typical students to be on board
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too . But actually there's a nonprofit called
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Good Friends . I don't know if you've heard of it . I'm
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actually good friends with the owner of it or the co-founder
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of it , so
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I talked to her a couple times and
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we're just trying to get
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the schools on board . Like the mindset
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of people , like , I think , just changing
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people's perspective and maybe
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not changing their minds , but at least having them be more aware
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of it . Yeah , more open . Yeah
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, so it starts at the schools , but also for
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the employers , like we need to start in
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the community and try and get them more on board
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with hiring people . I
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think that's her next step and I need to talk to her about that more
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because she'd be a good ally to have
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to like partner up together . As
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autism we kind of stick together and we
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definitely need
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to do more of that to give the employers
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the benefit like to see , hey , this
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kid or this adult will you know if you
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train them right and we will help you
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actually to . It's something that
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will benefit you .
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Yeah , benefit both parties in the end . So
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I know you're you're just kind of in the
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initial stages of building Amazing
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Grace , this home and center for autistic
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adults . Talk to us about what you
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have done so far and then what you're hoping
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to do next and maybe ways that
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the public could get involved , and
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then what you're hoping to do next and maybe ways that the public
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could get involved , if this is something that lights them up , definitely
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.
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We got to get like people like excited about this and I was actually in I don't know if you're
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familiar with Pat Miller . He does
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the idea , the small business idea collective
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. That's a good networking thing
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, and so he's in Milwaukee , excuse
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me and so I was just talking to people
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and I met more people that have kids with autism
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. Like oh my gosh , I like knew them but I didn't know
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they had kids with autism . So it's just like open the world
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. Yeah
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, the autism rate is like one
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in 36 . So that's a lot .
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That is a lot yeah .
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So one in 36 kids people have
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it . So yeah , If , if you're living
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, you should have some connection
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to autism .
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Autism , basically , yeah , exactly , you probably know someone somewhere
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through some association . All right , so
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yeah , what ? What have you got done so far ? What
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are we ? What's in the works ?
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I have in october . Back in october I
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went to a housing um
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conference in milwaukee at the italian community
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center and they they
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discussed like the state of housing in Wisconsin
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and the USA in general for people with
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um autism , but also like
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other like intellectual disabilities as well , Um
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, and then I got a lot
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of information , a good like starting point , Cause
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I didn't know where to start . So that that was my starting
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point to figure out where I wanted to start or
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how to start . And so then I got some great
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foundation of how to start . And
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I met other parents as well
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and so they
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had some good focus and some good input
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and actually their kids slash adults
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are older than mine . So I kind of got a
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head start . So I was very excited for that
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and so because then hopefully
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by the time like she's 18 , I can have
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like at least a , at least like
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a blueprint and like it was like a location
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for it and hopefully break ground , and so
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the housing conference was first back in october
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and then I also went to
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yesterday I went to a , the founders
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day in milwaukee at in ward four , um
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I went to just to
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like meet other founders and then mentors to founders
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because it's like being a solopreneur
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, being the CEO of your own
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business . It's like a lot of work but
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like you wear all the hats on top of each
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other . It's stressful and
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but it's also like so meaningful
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. But you like you need to bounce off
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, you know , ideas off of other people , and so that's
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what that was , and people that had been through
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it before and like way ahead of you
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, and so like just learning so much , yeah , Like almost
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having a yeah Mentor right To kind of
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guide you and give advice . Yeah
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, it was . It was amazing , my like
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. The next step , the next right step for me
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, is to find my people , and I'm already
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doing that . I , this morning I found more people
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, and so it's just amazing
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Like everything is happening the way it's supposed to
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.
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Good , so with all those people ? Um , how
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are you keeping everyone connected ? Do you want to do like
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a newsletter or a website or a Facebook
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group ?
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Good question . That's like
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my brain has been trying to figure that out and you
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just kind of like reminded me hey , I have
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to keep all these people together . Thank
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you , I needed that . I needed that , that bringing
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me back into , like , what I needed to do . So
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, thank you . Um , so yeah
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, I'm thinking , oh , maybe
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like uh , because
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I wanted to maybe use like social media , maybe
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like a Patreon group or like a . I mean
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, facebook is okay , I guess there's more people on Facebook , but
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I don't know . I'll have to think
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about that . I got to ruminate on that one a little bit
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. So , yeah , probably like a newsletter
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, for sure , email like on a regular basis . And then
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another like networking opportunity
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or like community building opportunity kind
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of thing , because I think it's not necessarily
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networking but community building , I think . So
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, yeah , that's my next endeavor on that list too
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.
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Yeah , building like a cohort of supporters
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. And then from there you guys can you know
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? Really start digging into like , okay , let's find a location
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for this housing , let's find an architect
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, let's work on funding , Exactly .
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Yeah , there's so many moving parts to it . Oh
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, I wish there was like a book on this .
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Maybe I'll have to write one
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. Emily , I think you're definitely highlighting the
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viewers , the listeners . It's like when
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you have a passion for an idea and you're so excited
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about it . But there are a lot
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of moving pieces and there's a lot of things that have
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to happen in order to get the
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ball rolling . But it is important to take
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that first step , to start doing your research , to
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start finding your people and then
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from there you can you can start building
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the dream that you want to build . How
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can , from , how can people get in
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touch with you if they're interested in joining you
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with this project ?
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I'm on LinkedIn . I'm
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on Facebook . My business
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is Website Design that Shines .
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I was going to say in the show notes , I can link your
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LinkedIn and your Facebook and your
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business website . So , yeah
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, if you want to get in touch with Emily , just check the show notes
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. You'll find that link directly and you
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can help her get the ball rolling on this . As
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always , if you like what you're hearing on you , betcha , she Did don't forget
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to share the show with a friend , a neighbor , a colleague . Like Emily was
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saying one in 36 people has
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autism , so I bet there is someone who
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definitely needs to hear this episode . Make sure
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you share it , you don't hold it to yourself
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. Bye .
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