0:00

You made it weird, you made

0:02

it weird, you made it weird,

0:05

oh yeah You made

0:07

it weird, you made it weird, yes

0:09

you did You made it weird, you

0:11

made it weird, you made it weird

0:14

with Pete Holmes What's happening

0:16

weirdos? This is uh, this is great. This

0:18

is exciting. This is a big one. This

0:20

is David Duchovny. You

0:22

know, David Duchovny, you

0:24

do! That's probably

0:27

why you're here. How exciting. To

0:29

the new people, welcome to the show. To

0:32

the weirdos, welcome back. I'm

0:34

glad you're here. I love this chat. David

0:36

has a new podcast out, coming

0:39

soon I believe, but you can subscribe to it now and

0:41

you can check it out on the

0:43

podcast app or wherever you get your, whomever

0:45

you get your podcast. It's called Fail Better

0:48

with David Duchovny. Be sure to check

0:50

out Fail Better. I'm so glad you guys

0:52

are here. We really get into it. This

0:54

conversation really stuck with me and I

0:56

hope you enjoy as much as I did.

0:59

Not much to plug up top. A

1:01

big thank you to everybody in LA. Not

1:03

to plug, but to say thanks at

1:06

the Wilshire Evil Theatre. That was

1:08

last night for me the day I'm recording

1:10

this. It was so close to being sold

1:12

out. It was incredible. I'm

1:15

so glad so many people came out. It was over

1:17

a thousand, a thousand people came to the show. Melted

1:20

my heart to see people in

1:22

there. It's hard, you know, I've been talking

1:24

about it on the pod. It's hard during a festival. There's

1:26

so many shows and you

1:28

guys really showed up and it was

1:31

really heartwarming to me and an incredible

1:33

show and an incredible show for Matt

1:35

McCarthy and I had so much fun

1:37

with you guys. So just a big thank you to

1:39

everybody that came to the show in LA on May

1:41

the 4th. If you don't live near LA and you

1:43

want to see me, I'm coming to Chicago. We

1:46

added a second show on Thursday. I'm also

1:48

coming to Texas and Pennsylvania. All sorts of

1:50

dates on peat homes.com and if you are

1:52

in LA but you miss me or

1:55

you want to come see me again, I do a monthly show at

1:57

Largo. Go to largo dash l a dot

1:59

com. and look for Pete Holmes living at

2:01

Largo. That's always the highlight of my month, trying

2:03

out new stuff, doing some, some of

2:06

the act as well. It's always amazing. All

2:08

right, enjoy. David

2:11

Duchatny, I'm so glad you're here. Get

2:14

into it. I am thrilled to

2:16

meet you. I'm a big fan of yours.

2:20

I think you're very, very funny. I actually, you know,

2:22

I just did a movie with Judy Greer. Say

2:25

what? Oh, I love,

2:27

I love, I love Judy Greer. Judy Greer

2:29

is amazing, and she told me to

2:32

watch the TV set, which

2:34

I did. And I thought

2:37

you were phenomenal in it. And I'm also

2:39

friends with Jed, and Jed was like, that's

2:41

kind of me. And I kind

2:43

of saw you do a little bit of a character

2:45

study on Jed with the back problems and the, you

2:47

know, the heavy crown of the

2:49

producer. The paunch. And the paunch,

2:51

of course. Yeah, I, it

2:54

was funny with that, with that movie

2:56

because that was Jake Kasdan writing

2:59

and directing. And it really,

3:03

you know, Jake pitched it to me as this

3:05

is kind of my experience

3:07

with Jed on freaks and geeks. I

3:10

was like, oh yeah, yeah, I'll play,

3:12

I'll play Jed. You know, and nobody

3:14

fucking knew who Jed Apatow was. Yeah.

3:17

And the day

3:20

we did the table read, you know,

3:22

the week before we were gonna start shooting, we did

3:24

a table read for investors,

3:26

because it was cobbled together, like, you know,

3:28

20 bucks from this guy. And, you know,

3:30

it was just a true independent kind of

3:32

labor of love film for the Kasdan family.

3:34

Yeah. And we

3:37

fucking went to the screening, the

3:39

premiere screening of 40 Year Old

3:41

Virgin that night. And

3:43

I just remember sitting there and

3:45

watching the audience just go nuts. And

3:47

I was like, oh, they're gonna know

3:50

who Jed Apatow. Yeah, you're out of

3:52

the bag. I actually started

3:54

to play him when nobody knew his name.

3:56

And then by the time the movie came

3:58

out, he was an actor. There was

4:00

like, epitobian. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

4:02

This is how Jason Alexander must have felt

4:05

when Kerb came out. They're like, oh, there

4:07

it is. There's the guy

4:09

that I was kind of embracing the

4:11

whole time. And now Larry David is

4:13

almost, well, I don't know. I

4:16

don't know if you'd say more famous, but maybe

4:18

as famous as Seinfeld. I would say that. Yeah,

4:21

in his, in that way.

4:24

Yeah. I mean, I'm

4:26

sad that I never got to be on that show. You

4:29

would have been great on it. Yeah, that would have

4:31

been fun to do. It seemed like a bit of

4:33

improvising, which I like to do. Yeah.

4:37

But back to Judy Greer, just

4:39

such a talented, funny, beautiful woman.

4:43

I mean, I just love Judy Greer. No,

4:45

she was wonderful. And I'm glad she told

4:47

me somehow I had never seen, heard of

4:49

that movie. And as somebody working

4:51

in LA, that's, you know, I've created my own shows.

4:54

My experience, I worked with some

4:56

really, with TBS, I worked with a very hands-off

4:58

network. And then with HBO, I worked on

5:00

like a, like respectfully hands-off network. So I didn't

5:02

have the experience. Which were the shows that you

5:04

did? I did a talk show called

5:06

The Pete Holmes Show that was on after Conan. And

5:09

then I did a show that Judd

5:11

directed and co-created with me called Crashing

5:13

on HBO, which was about being a

5:15

comedian coming up in New York. But

5:19

in both cases, we didn't have the nightmare

5:21

that is the movie, the TV set of

5:23

like getting noted to death and all that

5:25

sort of stuff. I,

5:29

well, anyway, you're doing a podcast anyway.

5:31

I know. That doesn't get, what

5:34

is going, why, what's going on, David? Why are you

5:36

doing a podcast? It's called

5:38

Fail Better. Am I getting that correct? Yeah. Don't,

5:41

you don't just say it like that. Fail Better. Like

5:43

with a question mark and an exclamation point

5:46

and it's underlined. Yeah. No,

5:48

no, no. It's a great title. We say on this

5:50

podcast all the time, fail faster. We say fail faster,

5:53

find the fun, which I didn't make up. Oh,

5:55

where's that from? It

5:57

was framed in a video game. like

6:00

an independent video game company had it

6:02

framed as their mantra, fail faster,

6:04

find the fun. So if somebody was like, what

6:06

if this game was two dimensional instead of three dimensional

6:08

do it, they would just be like, just do it,

6:12

get to the fail because we know that

6:14

that fail yields the result. Is that sort

6:16

of the theme? I guess. I mean,

6:18

I don't know. I mean, one of the things that's

6:21

interesting about doing a podcast as I'm sure

6:23

you know, is that you don't really know

6:25

what you're doing or thinking or

6:27

saying until you're out there doing it. So my

6:30

sense was, and this happened during

6:32

the strikes of last

6:34

year. So my agent said, we

6:37

can't do anything for you. You know,

6:39

nothing can be done, but we can

6:41

do podcasts. Did you ever think about

6:43

doing a podcast? Cause that's covered under

6:45

SAG after or whatever. Yeah. And I

6:47

was like, uh, no, but I

6:50

guess I could talk to somebody about it. And

6:53

I came up with a couple ideas and had

6:55

a discussion with the, uh,

6:57

agent there. And then we just sold it. It was

6:59

like, I wish the rest of Hollywood

7:02

was this easy, you know, or the, or

7:06

the people making decisions could actually make decisions

7:08

that quickly. You know, it was kind of

7:10

beautiful in that way. And

7:12

I'm working with this company, Limonada,

7:14

which is they've been amazing and,

7:16

and really collaborative. But I

7:19

mean, my sense was, you

7:21

know, I don't know what I'm talking about. I

7:24

just know that a lot of things are

7:27

tinged with failure in

7:30

the creative arts and in life. And,

7:33

um, even, even the successes can

7:35

sometimes feel like that. And obviously

7:39

personal failures as well. I don't know. I

7:41

don't know how to process them. I don't

7:43

know. You know, we talk about resiliency and

7:45

we talk about all this. It's not like

7:47

I have any answers. All I'm doing is

7:49

having people come on and saying, are you

7:51

interested in this angle of the discussion? Looking

7:54

at your life as a

7:56

series of failures surrounded by

7:58

occasional successes, whatever. Right and

8:00

what did you learn how did

8:02

you grow resilience if you did that are

8:06

there some failures that stuck with you

8:08

forever that that continue to hurt you

8:10

know cuz we have this narrative that

8:12

yeah you know you learn from failure

8:14

is cool it's great you gotta fail

8:16

but some failures really kinda stick. Yeah

8:18

yeah what do you do about those

8:21

so yeah that's just

8:23

that's just the door opening i don't know

8:25

what the fuck i'm talking about i'm no

8:27

expert in it i'm not a psychologist that's

8:29

just. I think it's an

8:31

interesting angle on a discussion that's kind of what

8:33

i'm going after well i mean we've been doing

8:35

a show for a long time and i think

8:38

you're doing two things really really perfectly actually one

8:40

is being loose about your premise. Because

8:42

i'm gonna fall away as i'm

8:44

sure you've discovered the promise but

8:46

also inviting the guest to be

8:48

vulnerable. Yeah even if you don't

8:51

end up talking about failure you're saying like will

8:53

you come on in the spirit of someone who's willing

8:55

to talk about their failures even if we don't

8:57

end up doing that. Yeah

9:00

exactly and also i don't wanna. I'm

9:03

not trying to spring anything on anybody

9:05

i'm not interested in that's us too

9:07

yeah we let it getting i say

9:09

it i go it's not a got your podcast in

9:12

fact i'll say that you even if there is something in

9:14

a week and you go i wish i hadn't said that

9:16

we just take it out this is something. You

9:18

know we're making together and then

9:21

i feel like people actually do wanna share and that

9:23

was actually my first plan the

9:25

question was like how open. Is

9:27

david to company why won't you love me gonna be

9:30

on a podcast because honestly i have

9:33

you on your on my podcast right now. How

9:37

open is david to company why won't you let me

9:39

gonna be on my podcast. Yeah

9:43

i do because a couple of things

9:46

have been have been nagging at

9:48

me since i started doing my

9:50

own pockets which is. You

9:52

know i don't wanna give away my good shit you

9:54

know like i like you pete cool you know but

9:56

i if i come up with something good i'd rather

9:59

it was on my. podcast. So there's like

10:01

something... Well, let

10:03

me give you a tip. Just do it on

10:05

both. Because that's nobody cares. That's the other thing.

10:07

It's true. The problem

10:09

with doing a podcast now is

10:12

everybody is kind of hip to how to

10:14

do a podcast now or how to

10:17

speak on a podcast. Everybody's got

10:19

that rap down pretty good. And

10:22

I'm so not interested in that. And I'm not

10:24

interested in hearing it come out of my mouth

10:26

either. So I guess my answer would be, I

10:30

try to address whatever questions you

10:32

have in an original way. I'll try

10:34

to answer them as if I'm answering

10:36

them for the first time. I am.

10:38

But the

10:41

other part of the answer to that is...

10:48

I think I've lost it.

10:51

Whatever it was, I lost it. How

10:54

open are you going to be? How open am I going

10:56

to be? You don't want to use your shit on my

10:58

podcast. No, I might. No, I'll be open. I'll be open.

11:00

No, no, no. You wouldn't have said that if you were

11:02

really going to lock up the vault. Nobody would think that

11:05

you're big and tight. Yeah.

11:10

I think everybody just goes through this calculus now where

11:12

they go, we're

11:14

all fucking whores. We want to entertain. And I

11:17

want to make you laugh. And I want to

11:19

make your audience laugh.

11:22

But the calculus now, where you're like, well, is that

11:24

laugh worth it? Well,

11:28

I actually think that the podcast, we're a comedy

11:30

podcast, but we also kind of lean self healthy

11:32

sort of stuff. And like one of the great

11:34

reliefs of this show is that we're not really

11:36

trying to be funny. We have like huge laugh

11:39

moments, but you'll as an artist, you'll appreciate sometimes

11:41

they have a 90 minute or

11:43

a 45 minute setup to that moment. You

11:45

know what I mean? It's just kind of

11:47

talking, but then you actually score

11:49

in this like the best

11:52

feast, like a long thing that only has

11:54

one punchline. It's kind of like that. And

11:56

it became its own art form. And like

11:58

you, I get angry

12:00

that something podcasting that essentially was

12:02

like ham radio. It really was

12:04

like dorky and kind of underground

12:06

and like this is where we'll

12:08

have conversations that aren't slick. Now

12:11

the bigger the guest I have, which is why

12:13

I asked it of you because you're very famous,

12:16

I was like, is David Duchovny going to play

12:18

ball? Because if I have like somebody's like,

12:20

who's your dream guest for the show? You

12:22

could say Matt Damon,

12:25

but I'd worry that Matt Damon has been

12:27

through the PR machine and he's just going

12:29

to know the and where to pull back.

12:31

But you know, like where's

12:34

your line? You

12:37

know, it just depends because like

12:40

I said, I've got kids, I've

12:42

got an ex, I've got people

12:44

in my life now, I've got a girlfriend.

12:47

You know, again, I do the calculus like, yeah,

12:50

I'd love to be honest and I'd love to help like

12:54

if what I could say could help or be funny

12:56

or whatever. But I also don't want

12:58

it to rebound on me. I

13:00

have not had good experiences in the

13:03

public sphere with being understood. I've

13:05

been misunderstood a lot and there's

13:07

no way I can

13:09

make myself understood. It just has to happen

13:11

naturally. Is there a mantra that you carry?

13:14

Like if you're feeling like you're

13:16

slipping into some old pattern, is there something that

13:18

snaps you back into the David

13:20

you want to be? Is

13:22

there some advice that you've received? Whether

13:25

it's about addiction or marriage or relationships or

13:27

not, but that's what

13:29

I'm in the market for is like those things that can help

13:31

to you. I guess

13:34

I'm interested in and what

13:36

I'm interested in my podcast as well

13:38

is a shame,

13:41

you know, just how

13:46

difficult it is to figure

13:53

it out in your own life, areas

13:55

in which you have been shamed or feel

13:57

shame. To

14:00

go into those. To

14:02

go into those the. Areas.

14:06

A Even if it's just sex

14:08

or divorce, there's a lot of

14:10

same and bob at and I'm.

14:13

Same. Just kind of keeps upon

14:15

itself. You know, I kind of grows

14:17

exponentially in some weird way. Of course

14:19

it. and. That's.

14:22

The killer for me is like a

14:24

my my adult life has been. Why

14:27

do I feel ashamed? For.

14:30

Nothing. And. How

14:33

that same grows and then the it and

14:35

then act the same kind of. Pushes.

14:38

Me to behave in ways that

14:40

I. Don't. Feel are constructive,

14:42

were are loving or us or anything

14:44

like that. So that's been my my,

14:46

oh yeah, don't really have a mantra.

14:49

Ah, been as the some great twelve

14:51

step Montrose, but I already have one.

14:53

I mean I love expectations of future

14:55

resentments though. Be good for you on

14:57

this podcast Year for I like that.

15:01

And number of it? Yeah, As

15:03

so in others, there's good little touchdowns and

15:05

I find them and poetry as well as

15:07

such as like. Self. help type stuff

15:09

what I. Am. A reader. And

15:12

then I I find literature and

15:14

philosophy is like philosophy or final

15:16

religion as well. So there's There's

15:18

been so much riding in and

15:20

thinking and religion about. The.

15:22

Very nature of our our same as humans

15:25

original sin. I don't watch one call it

15:27

but it there are many different name for

15:29

it and that's been kind of. My.

15:32

Interests as an adult. As

15:34

an adult creator me to it's read

15:37

on below and kissed. I don't feel

15:39

like. You. Know it

15:41

doesn't sound like the funniest. Kind

15:43

of a concept to go out, but

15:45

it's it's. super funny. What

15:48

Is super funny? She. Said

15:51

ah fuck that noise as well. Were

15:53

trying to salvage through entertainment a lot

15:55

of the time. I mean, wouldn't you

15:57

say. You.

16:01

Know I had this guy government say

16:03

on my podcast that he's an amazing

16:05

addiction specialist and a a therapist than

16:07

I am a doctor. And.

16:10

It has bought them as a normal that we were

16:12

talking about. He said you know. All.

16:14

This traumatic shit happens between the ages of zero

16:17

and three. Like if you can get your kid

16:19

to three. Without.

16:21

Without fashion, I'm up in arms. You're

16:23

fine soon. And the so it's not

16:25

even like it's not even like the

16:27

shit you remember either. Get it is

16:29

what. we're kind of fucked because where

16:31

we we do have the shit we

16:33

can process since we were conscious and

16:36

we could put words on it. But

16:38

then there's other stuff like that lack

16:40

of attachment or or neglect that happens

16:42

between zero and three and and and

16:44

where I think we're very sensitive animals

16:46

and and lot of that stuff can.

16:48

Can. Happen to us before we can even put a

16:50

finger on. I. Completely agree at

16:52

allen Day Button and I some funny

16:55

I had a lane do but off

16:57

I don't even know. You know I'm

16:59

talking about yeah. He. I'm gonna

17:01

put this, you just blew me away when I

17:03

heard it. To. Talking about shame you

17:05

like why am I this way? Why am

17:07

I this way and I'm not looking to

17:09

blame, but I'm looking to understand And he

17:12

says, you can tell a person's mental health

17:14

by how badly they wanna be famous. And

17:16

when I when I heard that I was like

17:18

I knew I was fucked up. Not in a

17:21

bad way and not even in a finger pointing

17:23

way. But it was like yes you said attachment.

17:26

There. Was something just a little bit

17:28

off. Everybody was doing their best, but

17:30

there is something that was often. Nobody

17:32

gets into a business like I heard

17:34

you talking about. When you're working you

17:36

have what you called what's next disease.

17:38

Knowing it's like. It's not

17:40

even really about getting on the X files

17:42

and is enjoying add. It's like. Yeah,

17:45

I'm not putting words in I'm out am

17:47

saying for me it there's a temptation to

17:50

go. Let's fill the hole. Keep filling the

17:52

whole keep falling whole, keep proving that were

17:54

worthy that we're not shameful. I get this

17:56

way was stand up. I'll.

17:58

Be feeling like. Broken.

18:01

And weird I feel like a frankenstein on

18:03

the beach. like everybody's having fun on the

18:05

beach and I'm just like a monster and

18:07

I going to stand up. Strangers laugh the

18:10

hear me they understand me, I exist, really

18:12

exist, Where to gather? It's. Like

18:14

I took fifteen Xanax. I

18:16

feel fantastic for several days,

18:18

but. That that's is, that

18:20

is what is it. I'm not mad at

18:22

that, but I will also say I don't

18:24

think that's the healthiest or the most normal

18:27

situation Duel a spin up. Is this the

18:29

healthiest for you? It will deter me from.

18:31

Yeah, it it does. I'm not mad at

18:33

it. A lot of people think strategy. right?

18:35

Before as coping strategies

18:37

go, it's it's. productive.

18:40

You know it's it's It may not

18:42

ever work as long as you wanted

18:44

to and there may be urged a

18:46

deeper answer Butcher that you will find

18:48

or that you find one day or

18:50

are you don't? Yeah, But. They're

18:52

all just coping strategies was

18:54

whatever kind of. Discomfort

18:57

We have worked with ourselves. It's

18:59

how I don't know if I

19:01

would agree with. The

19:04

buttons a statement of being

19:06

you know, putting on Spain,

19:08

but he's definitely. His.

19:10

Deadly got a singer on some button which

19:12

is you know this? this desire to his

19:15

You know he is kind of the need

19:17

to be objectified and away you know it's

19:19

it's it's an impersonal kind of a. Approach.

19:22

To being loved is being of by

19:24

strangers are being loved by and isn't

19:27

that safe right? It's safe as we

19:29

keep it Paris social ties with as

19:31

means. we were objectified. At some point

19:34

some point we became objects to ourselves.

19:36

You know, like when we will stop

19:38

being subjects. We stopped. Validating.

19:45

Are subjective nurse and away on as

19:47

the sign spoken Know it it a.

19:50

But. You. Know just the

19:52

idea that you know you could sit in your

19:54

skin and enjoy the day and enjoy the sensations

19:57

coming your way and the people in your life

19:59

and just. The objects just be are

20:01

thinking feeling heartfelt social thing know I'm

20:03

an object. I'd been objectified in some

20:06

way and I aware that a my

20:08

life I was comfortable from a very

20:10

young age being watched and I don't

20:12

know what that comes from the you

20:14

know it's it was in sports. I

20:17

liked being in front of a crowd. I like

20:19

playing sports in front of people. Are

20:22

not comfortable with it. So the something

20:24

in me that was comfortable being an

20:26

object and that contains to this day

20:29

I guess that's funny. I just Sir

20:31

John C. rallied to the pot and

20:33

he was. In my mind famously

20:35

disagreed with the statement. but going with what you're

20:38

talking about what had the and senators got everybody

20:40

know they ask every actor the dead the show

20:42

as on this question Ted Danson as is called

20:44

that I love He does it take he walks

20:46

back to his other actors and he goes is

20:49

an acting embarrassing and I find that really funny.

20:51

That. It's like. Pretending.

20:53

Is kind of a transparent thing to

20:56

do meaning. Everyone knows.

20:58

You. Didn't just see an alien that turned

21:00

into a lizard like you were faking it.

21:03

So to me as as kind of a

21:05

performer when I do acting I find like

21:07

a lot of my job is getting over.

21:10

The. Sort of. Embarrassment.

21:12

Of. Playing. Pretend but it sounds

21:14

like. You. Like being watched. You feel

21:16

that way as an actor like it's not embarrassing.

21:18

It's natural. it's normal. Like a look at this.

21:23

Oil: Are you kind of like are you still

21:25

David Going like this is kind of weird. I was

21:27

just talking though. I've always been embarrassed by it.

21:31

And I have. I would have a president embarrassed

21:33

by the need. To. Get a need.

21:35

What? About actually doing it is that embarrassing

21:38

as well. It's

21:40

silly. You know, That

21:44

sort of what I'm getting out. Maybe that's a

21:46

better way. That doesn't mean it's not beautiful. Yes, Yes,

21:48

I. Know. It all silly.

21:50

the silliest things. know the most beautiful

21:53

things. I mean it. It's what, What?

21:55

I. I. mean

21:57

it it's more beautiful for for being ridiculous

21:59

And it obviously has a value in the

22:01

culture because

22:07

people pay us a bunch of money to

22:09

do it. So there's a service that's going

22:11

on. People love stories. They like to see

22:13

people go through stories. I

22:16

understand it's like a service. Like

22:18

it's not curing anything,

22:21

but we're storytelling animals and

22:23

we like to see the stories. We

22:26

love that. We wanna go on those

22:28

rides. And that's legitimate. It's legitimate to

22:30

be in the center of something like that. But

22:33

I think when

22:36

I think about why I became an actor, aside

22:39

from like talking about objectifying myself,

22:44

it's also, I grew up

22:47

kind of being an intellectual kid.

22:49

I was an athlete, but my

22:51

mother really drove home the

22:56

need for me to do well in school,

22:58

mostly because it was

23:00

just a safety net for life, that

23:03

I'd get a decent job. Or

23:06

she came from no money. My father came from no money.

23:09

But I was raised by my mom and it was very, you

23:12

know, the gutter. She's Scottish. She'd always wind

23:14

up in the gutter if you

23:17

don't get this A or that A or

23:19

whatever. And it was stressful, stressful. It

23:22

sounds laughable when I say it

23:24

out loud now, but it's stressful

23:27

for a kid. And again, I'm not blaming

23:29

her. She

23:31

came from a tough, tough time. Right.

23:34

But we can honor, I relate to that.

23:37

I was so stressed out in school, I had a bald spot

23:39

on the side of my head. I was just like, this is

23:41

life and death. So while I appreciate,

23:44

as I did, saying we're not

23:46

pointing fingers, we're not making ourselves

23:48

victims or whatever, we can all honor.

23:50

Like when you're little and you

23:52

were little, even in high school, you're still little.

23:55

It's like, you can't differentiate what is and isn't

23:57

the end of the world. No,

23:59

I Don't. The be another they're they're

24:01

doing brain studies now and the other

24:03

I've got a twenty one year old

24:05

son in. Their people tell me like

24:08

the male brain isn't isn't complete until

24:10

twenty five are some ridiculous I that's

24:12

why Enterprise while a rent a car

24:14

and software package I'd get a just

24:16

made that up a sir I Target

24:19

welcome to Buy Gonna get my be

24:21

twenty five months and I'm a fast

24:23

as a spell. But

24:25

for me like getting back to what

24:28

I would without games to say about.

24:30

What You know what acting means to me

24:32

aside from being silly and I love Marlon

24:34

Brando my favorite actor and he hated acting

24:36

I think is dangerous but he thought of

24:38

it is ridiculous and wearing makeup and all

24:40

the stuff he knows like what a what

24:42

a ridiculous way from and a make a

24:44

living. And. And.

24:48

He's. Like my Touchstone. But.

24:51

For. Me coming out of like

24:53

and and intellectual. Background.

24:55

Where emotions were not. Bitcoin

24:58

around. You know I'm A wasn't A.

25:00

what I felt wasn't the important thing

25:02

is what I thought was important that

25:05

I stumbled. I was can be writing

25:07

and I stumbled into acting classes. I

25:09

thought I should learn something about. Acting

25:12

if I was going right for the

25:14

stage or screenplays. Whatever it is I

25:16

thought I was going to be doing

25:18

and. Blonde. The

25:21

whole i was in this world where

25:23

that was the thing that got a

25:25

validated for was not what you thought,

25:27

what you felt. And.

25:30

All these exactly the deficit right? I mean

25:32

does your we are when the playground now.

25:34

Were. Absolutely. And And and.

25:37

Ah, As. A. Way.

25:40

I can. I can do

25:42

all these things and nobody's gonna get hurt. Him

25:45

yeah is you know my mom Save

25:47

a mom. Tough, tough

25:49

life. A fragile. You.

25:52

Know. Found. A depression. ah

25:55

so me being contrary

25:58

or me having

26:00

problems in my life were not cool.

26:03

That wasn't part of the deal. I

26:05

was going to be perfect. But

26:08

here was a space where that shit

26:10

didn't fly at all. It

26:12

was the opposite and nobody got hurt. I

26:15

didn't hurt my mom. I didn't hurt

26:17

the other actors. I

26:19

could yell in their face

26:21

and feel the anger that I

26:24

felt underneath it all. Then

26:27

we go out and hug. It all

26:29

felt amazing. Everything

26:32

you're saying is so beautiful. And it helps me

26:34

understand. So my wife left me when I was

26:36

28. That's what crashing is about.

26:39

And we did this scene where

26:41

we had this big fight and Jed is

26:43

directing. And Jed loves a good relationship fight.

26:46

So he's turning up the volume. I probably

26:48

wrote it very like how it happened. Did

26:50

he have the microphone yet? Honestly,

26:52

it's one of my greatest acting achievements. Thank

26:55

you for asking, is that he stopped directing

26:57

us during the fight and he told me

26:59

afterwards that that was the tip of the

27:01

hat. So thank you for that self-serving moment.

27:03

Because I felt so proud. It was one

27:05

of the first acting things I did. It

27:07

was very emotional. And he was like not

27:10

interjecting with the mic. Which Jed sort

27:12

of famously, I think McKay too, they

27:15

yell out lines into the mic. Yeah, they're just yelling

27:17

out alts. Which is awesome. Every

27:19

one of them is a little young. I loved it. There

27:22

was one time he yelled out in all, I

27:24

didn't understand it. And I just said it like

27:26

a question. That's

27:28

a good man. Did it make

27:31

the movie? Was this the bubble? Yeah,

27:33

it was the bubble. I don't know if

27:35

it made it in, but I'm having a

27:37

scene with Leslie Mann, who plays my on-again,

27:39

off-again wife. And it's his wife. We've

27:44

adopted a boy, like a

27:47

10-year-old boy, just to make us

27:49

look good. We're fucked up

27:52

actors. So we've adopted this

27:54

Latinx boy to make us look like

27:56

we're cool. And

27:58

I clearly have not. that much interest in them.

28:01

And I'm just trying to bed

28:03

Leslie again in the scene. And

28:06

I'm saying, you know, she's saying, don't look at me like

28:08

that. I'm like, I don't even know, how am I looking

28:10

at you? You know what you're doing.

28:12

And I'm not doing anything. And

28:16

Judd goes, and she goes, okay,

28:18

we're only gonna talk about our son, okay?

28:22

And I can't remember the kid's name.

28:25

But Judd goes, well,

28:28

our son looks really good in that

28:30

dress tonight. But

28:34

I didn't get it. I was like sitting there out there on the

28:36

scene and I was like, well, our

28:38

son looks really good in that

28:40

dress tonight. That is great. That,

28:44

and you said it anyway. Yes, I think.

28:46

That's just to your director. Incredible, I

28:48

love that. So to your point though,

28:51

in real life, when my real wife

28:53

really left me, I was very

28:55

quiet. You know, you're bringing up all

28:57

these thoughts as a

28:59

child. I don't wanna like get

29:02

into your shit, but

29:04

how open are you gonna be with me? Very

29:07

good. David D'Acavre.

29:10

So when she, you're

29:13

saying she left you, it was just,

29:15

she lowered the boom, said, I'm leaving

29:17

and you're quiet, or was it a

29:19

process of? Well, it was, I

29:22

can tell this story, I think pretty quickly, we were living

29:24

in Brooklyn because I wanted to be a comedian and she

29:26

had been following me around. I started

29:29

noticing this distance. We moved to Sleepy

29:31

Hollow, New York. Yeah, yeah. Tarrytown basically.

29:34

Yeah. Because she was from the country and she wanted to

29:36

be in the country. I was like, oh, this will fix

29:38

everything. We go up there and it gets worse. There's more

29:40

and more distance. Like you can feel

29:42

it. I was a baby boy, I was 28 years

29:45

old, so I didn't know what was going on. Looking

29:48

back, the signs were everywhere. You're in bed with backs to

29:50

each other and you're just like, what the fuck? I

29:52

thought it was because we weren't seeing each other

29:55

because now I'm commuting into New York City to

29:57

do three minutes, literally three minutes of standup comedy,

29:59

11. 11 p.m. in the

30:01

village and then going back two hours

30:03

with hell, I go home and she's

30:06

distant and I'm like, well, this move

30:08

isn't working. Lo

30:10

and behold, she was having an affair. She

30:12

had been having an affair. She tells me,

30:15

and I was like the picture of

30:17

Naivety, I just didn't know. I didn't

30:19

see it coming at all. And there

30:21

was no fight because to your point,

30:23

growing up as kids, that feeling like

30:25

there isn't enough room for my feelings.

30:27

Again, everybody did the best they could,

30:29

but I felt more like the

30:32

lion tamer for other

30:34

people's feelings. So having learned

30:36

that pattern, here's this devastating moment, there's no

30:39

fight. There's no moment of like, how dare

30:41

you? I trusted you. There's none of it.

30:44

Cut to all these years later

30:46

doing crashing and yelling

30:48

and letting it out and saying things

30:51

that you felt. So exactly

30:53

to your point, I was like, this

30:55

is wonderful. People pay

30:57

in therapy to do role

30:59

playing like that because it heals

31:01

you. Which actually

31:04

goes back to what you said earlier about acting.

31:06

It's like, we're not curing anything. I

31:08

don't want to be too self-involved actors,

31:10

but I would say, you mentioned poetry.

31:12

I know you're into literature. How

31:15

many times has your heart been healed by Mary

31:17

Oliver? How many times has whoever

31:20

your person is probably prevented

31:22

a disease

31:24

from forming because you felt represented on

31:26

a page of a book, right? I

31:28

mean, that happens. Oh

31:31

yeah, of course. And

31:34

I hope this doesn't sound super

31:36

egotistical, but it happens with my

31:38

own work sometimes, like when it's

31:40

good enough. And

31:42

especially having written novels now,

31:44

and it's just to hold it in my

31:46

hand and to look at

31:48

some of the passages that I would have forgotten.

31:53

And I'll go, I'm

31:55

happy leaving that behind. My

31:58

thoughts turn to death a lot. I'm

32:00

not being morbid, but I think about what I

32:02

leave behind. Not that it really

32:04

matters. I don't like talking about life,

32:06

I can see, and shit like, I always, like, what athletes

32:08

talk about that, I don't like, shut the fuck up, you

32:10

know. Bears, who cares about

32:12

the legs? But I'm happy

32:15

that I'm leaving some expressions behind,

32:17

some, whether it's in

32:20

some movies and television shows, or whether it's music,

32:22

or whether it's in the books. There's

32:24

parts that are really exactly

32:27

what I came here to do, you know? That

32:30

I'm looking through my own eyes and feeling with my

32:32

own heart, and thinking with

32:34

my own brain, and that's the, all

32:36

those things can come together occasionally. It's

32:39

super silly, and embarrassing.

32:42

But the vehicle might be silly, but the

32:44

results, sometimes I try to remember what

32:46

a movie meant to me when I was 17 years

32:49

old, you know what I mean? For me, it

32:51

was good to a hunting, I went and I saw it, it changed

32:53

my life. I was like, you can leave Boston? I'm from Boston. Like,

32:56

you can leave? Like, that

32:58

movie ends with Matt Damon doing

33:00

the impossible, which is leaving Boston.

33:03

Also, I mean, there's so many movies, Melania

33:05

has a great line where he goes, in

33:07

all Boston movies, the antagonist is Boston. Like,

33:10

it's like you're trying to just leave Boston.

33:12

And when I saw that in a movie,

33:14

so like, I'll do you one worse though,

33:16

meaning not egotistical, but to take it up

33:19

a realm. Richard Roy, the

33:21

Franciscan, he's a teacher of mine, and

33:24

he's a beautiful man, he says that the

33:26

meaning of life is to humbly and proudly

33:28

return what you've been given, right? So you

33:30

were given all of this experience, so there's

33:32

a paradox there, being humble about it, but

33:35

also being proud about it. That feels like acting

33:37

to me, that feels like writing to me. Like,

33:39

you should be kind of ashamed, and you sort

33:41

of are, it's a little embarrassing, but you do

33:43

it anyway. But we're in

33:45

this place that

33:47

is creation, and

33:49

is flow and expression,

33:52

and when you merge, and I

33:54

wanna put this all back to

33:56

you, but when you merge in

33:58

that river of movement, of

34:00

honest moving, if it's honest

34:02

acting, writing, directing, whatever you're doing, aren't

34:05

you sort of in sync with the nature

34:07

of reality? You're

34:14

in sync with something, you know. I think

34:16

you're in sync with... What

34:19

resonates to me, what you say is

34:23

giving back, because going

34:26

back to my mother again, and education, I

34:29

went to graduate school in English literature

34:31

to get a PhD. I

34:34

didn't get my PhD, but

34:36

I almost did, you know, I got close. So

34:38

I read book and

34:42

poems, and

34:44

I sat my aurals, and when

34:46

you sit your aurals for PhD,

34:49

you have to be responsible for 10 out of

34:52

12 subjects, and

34:56

those subjects are like Shakespeare

34:58

is one. Wow. This

35:01

is the oral exam. Yeah, you're gonna

35:03

wear it. It's an oral exam. You don't,

35:06

you have nothing with you, you might as

35:08

well be fucking naked, you know. You're talking,

35:10

you don't have a phone, it was before

35:12

phones anyway. You can't look anything up. Yeah,

35:15

and there's a board of scary, like, professor.

35:17

Board of scary professors. Yeah, and

35:19

they go, do they call you Mr. Dac company?

35:28

Mr. Dac aural

35:30

exam, and it was

35:33

snowing, because you

35:35

do two years of classwork and

35:37

teaching. Is this boring? I'm

35:40

loving this. Okay, so you do two

35:42

years of classwork. I actually

35:44

was just thinking you're going to be, I know

35:46

you already did your podcast, but you're great for

35:48

what it's worth now. Interrupting. But you do two

35:50

years of classwork. Go keep going. You're doing wonderful.

35:53

Two years of classwork, but you're also

35:55

a teaching assistant. And

35:59

apparently I had Sean Levy as one of my

36:01

students. Oh really? Much

36:03

later. I didn't remember him, but he was

36:05

one of many. So

36:13

they give you a full semester

36:15

after your two years to go

36:18

and just read. So

36:20

I'd spent the last five

36:22

months reading probably

36:25

10 to 12 hours a day

36:27

trying to shore up the gaps in

36:30

my knowledge for these 10 of 12 subjects. Like

36:33

I punted on Beowulf.

36:35

Like I knew I wasn't going to get that. So

36:38

I punted on a couple subjects, but I had

36:40

10 to do. And it's

36:43

like 19th century poetry, you know,

36:45

early novels. So these huge subjects,

36:47

all of Shakespeare, not just the

36:49

plays, but the poems and the

36:51

sonnets and everything. What? Because they

36:53

can go in, they can fuck

36:55

with you if they want to. It sounds like the

36:58

whole thing is designed to fuck with you. None of

37:00

this sounds like it's designed to make you succeed. I

37:03

mean, are we mad about this? I'm a little mad.

37:05

It's also just figuring. No, this is what I'm getting

37:07

at. Go ahead. I'm not mad at all. So

37:10

I'm mad. I'm walking

37:12

to that meeting on

37:16

High Street, New Haven. And

37:20

I just had the sensation that my head

37:22

was the size of a blimp because

37:25

it truly felt like that. I

37:27

couldn't get anything else in there. I mean,

37:29

I had just been reading for four months

37:31

every day. And in fact,

37:34

I was living with a woman at the time and

37:36

I wasn't paying a lot of attention to her. And

37:39

she came to find me in the library and there

37:41

was like three of us graduate students together. And

37:45

later that night I came home and she said,

37:47

I have to apologize because I saw the way

37:49

they look. And

37:51

I understand that. What you're

37:53

going through. Wow. I wanted

37:56

hail, malnourished.

38:00

Worried. Kind of a state.

38:03

So. I get in there and

38:05

the. Sunny. Way that the

38:08

the world's was fine I I passed

38:10

them and Emma in the scary professors

38:12

were were kind enough that they don't

38:14

actually trying to gotcha stuff. You know

38:17

they say they what's. In.

38:19

The best sense and and when I feel

38:21

like is wrong with American education as they

38:23

often test for what you don't know they don't

38:25

test for it. do now and then a nice

38:27

like to be a much better educational system.

38:29

If we tested for they do now. Get

38:33

them excited by what they now, rather than scared about

38:35

what. I don't know. I love that.

38:37

I love that. I've already trying to

38:39

tell me she's only five, but I try to

38:41

tell my daughter like. It's like

38:43

learning is stealing. Thank. You to make

38:45

it a sexy. That is a steal

38:47

a you taking these like a part

38:49

of his is stealing. Had sex in parts

38:52

are learning will will help you meet

38:54

people it'll get you better friends look any

38:56

better for food it was all your hotel

38:58

little get about. I know about that. it'll

39:01

get better hotels David I have to have

39:03

me to have no hotels food. the food

39:05

thing was weird will because you're gonna

39:07

get a better job. Okay, and

39:09

then you're going to be eating better food. Probably.

39:12

But it is certainly a to take it

39:14

back when I still had you. You are

39:16

going to make. Very. Interesting friends

39:18

and you And and it you know. I'm.

39:21

Also implying you're going to have better

39:23

relationships are gonna have in you're gonna

39:25

be interesting cause you. To

39:27

will be interesting yourself yeah that as

39:29

him back. Is. Like spock other

39:32

people? Yeah, Another arts yeah.

39:34

Show yourself some respect. And

39:37

put some good stuff in there. You.

39:39

Remind me here is Joseph Campbell. I remember

39:41

before he started teaching. When off into the

39:43

woods it's like that mythic. Yeah,

39:46

I'd have a trope and you did that

39:48

you read for twelve we taking notes, he

39:50

just cram hundred and up on shows like

39:52

an oven at. If. i run across

39:54

a book from that time that i was using they

39:57

all my notes or in the margins says when i

39:59

in a before we read electronically, you

40:01

could actually read with a pen.

40:04

I like reading with a pen because I like

40:06

having thoughts and writing with a margin, even if

40:08

I never come back to it. But

40:11

what I was getting to from

40:13

the beginning of that story was

40:16

you mentioned humbly and

40:18

proudly giving back. Returning

40:21

what you've been given, yeah. Returning what you've been

40:24

given. So it took me, I

40:28

published my first novel when I was 55. So

40:36

last year? Yeah, last

40:38

year. So it took me 30 years to

40:41

start to give that back. And

40:48

once I started to give it back, I realized

40:51

how deeply all that stuff was in

40:53

me and how much

40:56

I loved it and how much I loved

40:58

being in the conversation. And that's how

41:00

I see it. My work is a

41:02

conversation with what I was given. So

41:05

these books started a conversation in my head

41:07

and now I'm finally, and not that everybody

41:09

has to write a novel to have a

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an enormous cues that my

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writing of of have too

46:17

much looser elusiveness you know,

46:20

like referring to other. Authors.

46:24

When. I do it. I

46:27

do it. Honestly, I really, I'm not

46:29

looking. shut up and. Maybe

46:32

if I. If I'm

46:34

quoting something and I want to get

46:36

it right, I'll do that. World's gonna

46:38

paraphrase it, but I have so much

46:40

in my head still from that six

46:42

months of cramming that eight it looks

46:44

for places to come out. And

46:47

that is. You. Know is

46:49

it reminds me of Caso Thing, the great

46:51

artist Steel. It's like you're actually that what

46:53

actually is unique is the ball. It's not

46:55

what's in it, it's how those things dance

46:57

together. Now going to change the metaphor like

47:00

in the washing machine of your brain? Yeah,

47:02

he put all your tommy by call compost

47:04

heap. Even better, Hitherto.

47:06

Evolving. Yeah. It's shit.

47:09

It's all. It's all that shit

47:11

but in a sliding there it's

47:13

a beautiful dead shit is gonna

47:15

pack. Yeah, are expensive? Yeah, yeah

47:17

yeah. Ben. This is what

47:19

I would tell my kids cause they

47:22

they grew up just of the cusp

47:24

of on the phones were omnipresent. way

47:26

worse now. But.

47:30

You know, Yes, the phone has all the

47:32

knowledge you don't need to know these things.

47:34

And I hated memorizing dates and said like

47:36

that. I'm not talking about that. I'm.

47:41

But you need. You. Need a

47:43

lot of ideas in your head to

47:46

just sit there and are a lot

47:48

of stuff that doesn't seem interesting to

47:50

know if it's if it's all crammed

47:52

into that brainier as eventually they're gonna

47:54

knock and to each other and something

47:57

was going to spark. Anywhere,

47:59

Else. New for you're going

48:01

to happen That's exactly right. And isn't it

48:03

weird? Like why is something more interesting to

48:05

you that goes back to how you a

48:08

raise but you become this incredibly interesting. Searchlight.

48:11

Like your your own search engine, you and I

48:13

could listen to the same lecture and would write

48:15

down and underline a different thing. And.

48:17

It isn't that just exactly what we're

48:19

doing here. We're all holding different parts

48:21

of the mystery and somehow we all

48:23

come together. And. Hold. It all

48:26

up together. Pm and that's you

48:28

to go back to the the wound.

48:30

You know that that's what usually. You.

48:33

Know you have to like. Be thankful for

48:35

that wound because it gave you. You

48:38

know, crush lands a little differently? In

48:41

every second as far side or

48:43

whatever. By this I gave you

48:45

a vision in your quests to

48:47

heal yourself or to understand yourself.

48:50

For the understand those who raised

48:52

you are those you loves it.

48:54

Whatever is really what that's you

48:56

giving back. To

48:59

the white I was just going to. Just as

49:01

morning my wife and I went to coffee and

49:03

I was complaining about something my mother. Globe.

49:07

As just said, pretty innocently, but it really

49:09

set me off the rails. And I said

49:11

of Allah having had a coffee and a

49:13

little conversation a process that I was like.

49:16

Or at least I'll be useful now. Meaning.

49:19

We. Do podcast together My wife and I on Friday

49:21

and I do this by guess with you here it

49:23

is coming up. I'm like. I'm. Not

49:26

very useful in till I'm broken

49:28

broken. Pete is actually one of

49:30

my favorite. A

49:32

good he he got. Am I getting broken pay?

49:34

You might and oh yeah, this whole week. He.

49:37

Notices it's very Sigma Toyota was would

49:39

have with your mom or know I

49:42

will tell you know I had. My

49:44

parents had a very tumultuous relationship and

49:46

it's their fiftieth wedding anniversary and my

49:48

mom keeps asking me to do more

49:51

and more things like I'm going. And.

49:53

I and I keep telling her that's I go,

49:55

my presence is the present like that's what I'm

49:57

doing as he keeps asking me to like. Though

50:00

the ask that for some reason the was like

50:02

the third or fourth. And. By

50:04

the way, I. Don't know people

50:06

can judge this if they want. It's a

50:08

very complicated relationship that's a lot A So

50:10

when she was I can you print up

50:12

photos of me and dad for the party

50:14

and I just like. I. Basically

50:16

wideout, I am this close to

50:18

shaking that and then Vallas helping

50:20

me. She's going. Pete. And

50:23

again my parents I've I've done my

50:25

best to forgive them. It's an ongoing

50:27

process. I love them. I understand as

50:29

well as I can understand. but that

50:31

was the relationship that put me in

50:33

a crock pot and cooked me into

50:35

a to media Jesus Christ that somebody

50:38

that's not a natural thing away. What?

50:40

What? What? Why? Why

50:42

does you forgot about because suitors used

50:44

as hundred line or something to be

50:46

the party planner for a relationship that

50:48

is very complicated for me? Like will

50:50

you help us. Exotic. Watch

50:53

this whitewash it. Yes, it's It's

50:55

like. You. Know,

50:57

I don't want to overstate it, but it's like the

50:59

warden at the prison I used to go to being

51:01

like we were. You print up pictures of your time.

51:04

Remember. Those the art. And

51:06

have been. I'm exaggerating, but that is how

51:09

it feels to child Pete. you know nothing

51:11

about and I have to honor that child.

51:13

Be. That's. How he feels so

51:15

I start to white out and then

51:17

I. and then we unpack and and

51:19

cheops understand all that and ago that's

51:21

good because I know there's a lot

51:23

of people out there that are getting

51:25

flying off the handle at seemingly innocuous

51:28

things. Your. Mom as you to print

51:30

photos is not a big deal but we have these like.

51:32

Tsunami. Of response and that

51:34

is one of the it's but at

51:37

least I'm useful. I'm like I'm not

51:39

much use if I just walk around

51:41

going like and I've forgiven them and

51:43

everything. And I just

51:45

remembered as that long as they're they're at.

51:47

You know, I try. I try to remember

51:49

that at her core. My mother is the

51:51

exact same thing that I am. She's

51:54

just consciousness. I do that but that an

51:56

intellectual and and I need to bring it

51:58

into my body and my life is so

52:00

good at their vows. So good at that

52:02

is like she like touch she was having

52:05

me due to the coffee like to touch

52:07

your i have as much right is she's

52:09

grounding in the and she goes touch your

52:11

arms, you your extremities are getting no gun

52:13

and you're here now Exactly This resonates with

52:15

you. Yeah. My

52:18

girlfriend does summer things like that. She

52:20

was written like that her father would

52:22

would. Touch. her like that in

52:24

Lucknow did get or antibody. Yeah and

52:26

I'd never really I never seen that are heard

52:29

of. it was that he f t is that

52:31

would choose to I don't know I don't I

52:33

like this. Is at these

52:35

boys? One two, three, four, five, And

52:37

it doesn't matter I don't have like

52:39

that's because your your body goes into

52:41

for we just where i'm going to

52:44

throw this back to you might vow

52:46

was like fight, slight freeze and spawn

52:48

i forgot about fun. And.

52:50

My strategy has been meaning.

52:52

If I tell my parents they're the greatest in

52:55

the world, everything's a cop ascetic I never have

52:57

spotted on the reading of Iraq was part of

52:59

it. Me neither I thought it was a d

53:01

or thoughts are saying fun like a boss and

53:03

guy for on. That that's what a

53:05

long island but lots of boss and very similar.

53:07

yeah but out. But these coping strategies of of

53:09

going like just tell everybody that they're the best.

53:12

No room for your feelings or that's are stuffed.

53:14

Can him send it back out so you go

53:16

for it helps you get your body that's interesting.

53:18

Tell me what? Tell me what that made you

53:20

think of. Well when you were

53:22

saying that it made me think of this discussion

53:24

I had was. Job. Or another

53:27

that the government's yeah

53:29

far as because he's

53:31

a. He's like eighty

53:33

and the and his books that

53:36

we talk about he talks about.

53:39

His wife not picking of up

53:41

at the airport when she should

53:43

have and he's super tests on

53:45

his sky. Who's supposed to. Handle.

53:48

all the shit that up it's one

53:50

of the yeah know where it's at,

53:52

were talking about that and and. You

53:55

know for him, And I hope

53:58

I'm not getting i'm wrong and that may be. It

54:00

doesn't hate me, but for him. It's

54:03

lengthening the period between the

54:05

poke and the response. And.

54:08

Know it's it's because you never not

54:10

going to have the response that's that's

54:12

the false hope is like guess I'm

54:15

gonna get to that point where And

54:17

that's what Scientology. Is the

54:19

promise of where I'm not reactive? You'll

54:21

never had the reactive mind. Yeah, won't

54:23

have the react of mine. I'll be.

54:25

I'll be. I'll be the

54:27

actor, not the reactor. Frank? Not

54:29

possible. Like a special if that

54:31

happened pre verbal A it is is

54:33

soccer have but you can lengthen. The.

54:36

Time between. You.

54:38

Getting triggered and you lashing out or

54:40

leaving your body. Whatever it is that

54:43

your workout program however it's and then

54:45

you know. obviously you have somebody you've

54:47

chosen your wife's to help you to

54:49

regulate. Yeah so that's great to the

54:51

have somebody to help but you can

54:53

do south as well into a loan.

54:56

Yeah. To me, I'd gotten

54:58

so much mileage. Now to saying this,

55:00

you as you know you new pal.

55:02

The. Newly breath and in the long run

55:04

out the mouth I can't get over it.

55:07

I it it helps so much I heard

55:09

a doctor he roman talking about. it's it

55:11

lowers, your court is all. right?

55:13

Pretty incredibly so after that text, I'm in

55:16

the car drive. Nope. I guess I'm just

55:18

going to. Like.

55:20

I am alone in the car so who cares?

55:22

and I'm I'm telling you, Ten fifteen it I

55:25

was and your body starts to come back. Online.

55:28

And I was like poor little

55:30

pete. You and I loved to

55:32

known that he wouldn't allow seven year old

55:35

be What a fucking filled to know that

55:37

what had several beat them. He font. Seven.

55:40

Year old he'd find and any performed

55:42

he knows on a he got funny

55:44

and this is maybe when I learned

55:46

to be an object. You know the

55:48

mean lights? There's. Nothing.

55:50

And again and putting this back to you, it's like.

55:53

If I can get everyone last saying what

55:55

is more. Comforting. Then

55:58

getting the. I. Grew up

56:00

in a house where they were. there's alcohol

56:03

involved, there's tension, and then we go up

56:05

and clubs and there's alcohol. Their attention and

56:07

I and I turn them in the exact

56:09

same way I was. I'm. Not

56:11

going to say broken but in the

56:13

back of the crime back they always

56:15

come back to mess with a trenchcoat.

56:18

They always come back. We do you

56:20

look at be. I

56:24

knew you'd be back. Be. Just. A

56:26

matter of time, but it's a it's a

56:28

role play to go like. I know how

56:30

to com this dinner down and I know

56:32

how to com them the Miami Improv them.

56:35

About. The sphere. Of

56:37

not being funny when you know that

56:39

ship or but that's here I would

56:41

say I can see what is your

56:43

taxable in I can be great artists

56:45

if you go to the Shrank. Strongly

56:47

disagree. Yeah, I'm not even going for

56:49

a mentally while. I'm gone for straight

56:51

up spiritual realization that unlike the more

56:53

I clear up my shit about it

56:55

later I am. Now. It's

56:57

like who made that. Idea:

57:00

The Devil. Enough repeated shit

57:02

like that. idea. Ah. Maybe.

57:06

Because there's a lot of bad shrinks out

57:08

there, you know? So yeah, they can do

57:10

some harm in that way. You know they

57:12

don't plans on the practitioner like our I

57:15

really feel like. Bodies. Of

57:17

Knowledge. There's so many good ones out there,

57:19

it just depends on whoever is. Teaching.

57:22

Him: Yeah, no And and. And.

57:25

Why I'm missing Scientology again Because I have

57:27

no interest in in and I would have

57:29

been it. But if if you got guy

57:31

who's a great teacher in the app as

57:33

reducing scientology still get some good shit out

57:36

of it. yeah discuss the great teacher. Yet

57:38

as a when there's Buddhism or or or

57:40

Judaism christianity yes you teacher. Then.

57:43

You're going to learn. I. Completely agree to

57:45

in fact, Was. So funny.

57:47

I feel that way about your work as well

57:50

as I like hanging out with David. I know

57:52

you're playing roles but yeah but sometimes I think

57:54

as a comedian I say this all the time.

57:56

the jokes or an excuse to be in the

57:58

energy that were create. The together in a

58:01

row and I feel I way I was

58:03

watching Bucky Fuck Indent and it's wonderful and

58:05

I'm very happy for you that your book

58:07

is is becoming this movie age. Thank you.

58:09

And. When you come on. I

58:13

didn't know you are in it, I just threw it on

58:15

hours ago He directed at he wrote at your we are

58:17

and then you're the dad and as merely I don't want

58:19

to buddy or bread too hard but I go oh there's

58:21

that guy. When. I mean that

58:23

it was a familiar comforting oh,

58:25

I get to hang out witnesses.

58:28

I like that compost heap. It

58:30

as actually I like to put my seat in it.

58:33

Was set. Up

58:36

And I did. Go you, David Recovery,

58:38

Why don't you love is omitted? As

58:40

for analyzing means fertilizer Me when it

58:42

is. And well, that's right. I think

58:45

that's right. Yeah, like a date. Allen

58:47

De Botton also said, on a date,

58:49

you recognize wounds, are recognizing one another,

58:51

and there's something in the way that

58:53

you react as an actor that. Resonates.

58:55

With me that I go that's

58:58

authentic. I feel. Uncomfortable By

59:00

the things he feels uncomfortable. I

59:02

don't know if it's in the

59:04

eyes, it's in the faces in

59:06

the body. They're all these unconscious,

59:08

nonverbal things that my body goes.

59:11

Okay, I can, I can, I can

59:13

become. A part of this movie.

59:16

I see a place for me

59:18

in you. Wrote. Pretty.

59:20

Cool. As beautiful I I.

59:23

I don't want. I agree with you. Get three.

59:26

Unseemly butter. I get where you're

59:28

saying and I I was just thinking

59:30

about actors that I like. Being

59:33

in their space. Yeah. You know,

59:35

and. Sometimes.

59:38

The way it occurs to me is. Your.

59:41

As much as I don't know, as much

59:43

as I think acting is ridiculous whatever that

59:45

quote was are silly. Yeah, Or.

59:47

And I'm ashamed and in some ways

59:50

not occur muslims I'm sexual jokes now.

59:52

I love it though. The truth. it's

59:54

funny to me, it just makes you

59:56

happy. I'm. At

59:59

I say. I.

1:00:02

Really like actors who seem to

1:00:04

love acting. You have kids. Might.

1:00:07

Not be me. You know the

1:00:09

I love it on some level

1:00:11

that's not. John

1:00:13

Travolta to me like I just think

1:00:15

he loves acting. I just I watch

1:00:18

him and I just think he's having

1:00:20

so much fun, fear and like oh

1:00:22

man. I. Love being in that

1:00:24

space. Yeah, me too. It's not about

1:00:26

the acting that is it. A lot.

1:00:28

Killer or he just loves that man. I've

1:00:31

been so alchemy know that you might a

1:00:33

that he might hate it yet. Rocket is.

1:00:36

He's. He he loved the onset that day

1:00:38

in a year and and ops he's giving

1:00:40

it to me and downs on that love.

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You know, the love of what you do.

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Yeah, I agree. A I know

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it's an inspired thing to see a person in the

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state of non resistance. A Good I mean. That.

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let me tell you I will let you

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you in the performance that is so great

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1:01:18

As a small I mean you're You're doing

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it with restraint. You're doing a kind of

1:01:22

cool. you're doing it school sounds wrong, and

1:01:24

I'm trying to compliments that, you know, doing

1:01:26

less. And I'm more interested.

1:01:30

I did you tell me it is a

1:01:32

very specific question? Are there times when you've

1:01:34

gone. Against. That that

1:01:36

being kind of a thing that you're known for one

1:01:38

of the things down for it's mates have you got

1:01:41

against it? May like a really big move and but

1:01:43

my god I hope they don't use that. Take. Oh.

1:01:45

Yeah, the certainly certainly that, but

1:01:48

has also been like roles that

1:01:50

I'll see. I'm taking

1:01:52

come my way where I go. Okay, this

1:01:54

is kind of a. Big. Swing

1:01:56

for me! And.

1:01:59

They they. Really mean. You

1:02:02

might not even see it as different, but. I

1:02:05

go back to like. Probably.

1:02:08

Like Zoolander? You know, that kind of

1:02:10

thing where I'm You know, this kind

1:02:12

of ridiculous character or or the Tv

1:02:14

said I feel like I'm a little

1:02:16

bigger and that or I'm. In

1:02:18

this. State I did a couple years

1:02:21

ago play really goofy funny character or I

1:02:23

played Howard Cosell on the History of the

1:02:25

Were all means like best Gray I'm another

1:02:27

thirty five seconds. But for me it was

1:02:29

like. Yeah well our camp

1:02:31

don't like sketch comedy economy are gay or

1:02:33

yes I've not done. Or when

1:02:36

I did as ah now I do enjoy it

1:02:38

as I like that kind of. I

1:02:40

like that I like tapping into that energy

1:02:42

which is not my natural yeah time. Artistic

1:02:45

way to go. With. It But

1:02:47

I do enjoy my due respect it and I and

1:02:49

I love it. Yeah, it's interesting when

1:02:51

I watch myself act ninety nine point

1:02:53

nine percent of the time and like

1:02:55

I wish I done less. And if

1:02:57

that's what did you come about your

1:03:00

style. From. Watching yourself Or was

1:03:02

it something you found in your shoes?

1:03:05

Yeah. I found it through through

1:03:07

failure. Really, I'm in. I'm. When

1:03:10

I got to L A. I.

1:03:12

Auditioned. My my manager has no longer

1:03:14

my mans overseas. The. She's.

1:03:17

To keep track of and helmet assists

1:03:19

the tell people how many auditions I didn't

1:03:21

get in, what. Have

1:03:23

you fire? It's first Natasha. I

1:03:25

like her way of giving me

1:03:27

a line or something, but. You.

1:03:30

And I said always seem like I'll have

1:03:32

to larger number but there was a lot

1:03:34

and I get. In.

1:03:36

I get the feedback in a river.

1:03:39

When you're always getting feedback member feedback

1:03:41

he back and see by a city

1:03:43

back asleep I can defeat. Feedback is

1:03:45

not get. The feedback as. Feedback

1:03:48

is great. Feedback as great as as as than

1:03:51

is not going to you with a C by

1:03:53

guy. Get it either direction. But they absolutely loved

1:03:55

the of beloved they really want actually about that

1:03:57

by the way that works on me when my

1:03:59

age and goes they loved you. I'm lion a

1:04:01

loving them. They know I'm gonna handle a degree

1:04:04

of a job I live over there. I don't

1:04:06

get a job that was enough that would have

1:04:08

gone for is wonderful of. That's.

1:04:10

Right now a job gather at

1:04:12

it dialed and so I get

1:04:14

the. Flat. A

1:04:16

movie star and was one I got a

1:04:18

lot like because I was auditioning for like

1:04:20

television say i his movie Star Wars I.

1:04:23

And I can't make my rent in.

1:04:25

I'm not a movie star. I'd like

1:04:28

to be like this tv job. so

1:04:30

I knew what I was doing was.

1:04:33

Because back then there was a distinction.

1:04:35

This is like Nineteen Eighty Nine Ninety

1:04:37

Ninety. In there was a pretty strong

1:04:39

distinction between T V. acting him back.

1:04:42

And and X files so change at N

1:04:44

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1:04:47

of yeah yeah, little bit around us yeah

1:04:49

and then of course you know cable. Yeah

1:04:51

that. and and now the distinction is is

1:04:53

a race and may maybe even be weighted

1:04:56

the other way. Now where you know it,

1:04:58

do more than I am Beggars Star If

1:05:00

you're on a huge as is dances a

1:05:02

bigger star budget, the work you can do

1:05:05

is more speaking be more subtle actually and

1:05:07

in a rather than a ventures twenty two

1:05:09

or wherever in a race like rate. A

1:05:12

mit waited the other way now.

1:05:14

but then. You know Tv

1:05:17

was serve in I don't want a bad

1:05:19

mouth says that I love like Star Trek

1:05:21

or whatever but it was. It was considered.

1:05:24

The same caliber as great some acting like I

1:05:26

got it was a volume medium. I was like

1:05:28

we can do a thousand of these right? right?

1:05:30

As opposed to breaking Bad. Which. Is

1:05:32

reminding me of the X Files episode that

1:05:34

had yeah, that's that's where Brian med dance.

1:05:37

That's when I. Yeah, that's right it. yeah.

1:05:39

Exiles was the beginning of breaking that I

1:05:41

forget the last. Yeah, so cool. Yeah.

1:05:44

I'm. You. Have as

1:05:46

was going to is one of those actors in that car. And it

1:05:48

wasn't me, it was. So

1:05:51

are you integrate? Walter White

1:05:53

know shit. You. Would have

1:05:55

been a great Walter White. Vince's

1:05:57

again I'm sorry. Oh yeah, but.

1:06:00

So yeah I were I would get erm. Flat.

1:06:03

A. From. Flat

1:06:05

was the negatives. Movies

1:06:08

I was positive. Ah,

1:06:10

and. I. Just

1:06:13

knew. I'd

1:06:15

even if. Or his

1:06:17

He's doing nothing In a he's not doing anything.

1:06:19

Isn't And yeah, yeah,

1:06:22

And they're. Given.

1:06:25

It was like. If I thought I was

1:06:27

being dead pan funny. Which. Is

1:06:29

something I aspire to like Buster Keaton, the

1:06:31

sight of God to me, and stuff like

1:06:34

that. So I'm. But.

1:06:36

I knew. That

1:06:38

I was up to something, I knew I was

1:06:40

doing something. And I

1:06:43

knew possibly. I

1:06:45

had to work on my craft a little more

1:06:47

so that. People. Could say it.

1:06:50

But. I also know that that was

1:06:52

my natural like. Wavelength.

1:06:55

From that was two hours. Gonna do it like

1:06:57

that was my. Take on acting

1:06:59

was going to be doing it this way. Was

1:07:01

it because you hadn't seen it where you like?

1:07:03

I gotta. I know this is real because it's

1:07:05

me and I haven't seen it so many keep

1:07:07

ringing the bell. Yeah. It.

1:07:09

Was I that. Night. And look at

1:07:12

it. I I was got fired for love

1:07:14

one of the first movies I I. I

1:07:18

got called the Rapture. In this

1:07:20

is a really good. Independent

1:07:22

movie like Ninety Nine, Day In and.

1:07:25

I got sent home or dailies to like.

1:07:28

I don't recover out was phrase but as basic

1:07:30

like you Tagalog or how bad you are or

1:07:32

something like that. And.

1:07:36

I invited my friend dinah care

1:07:38

of as a writer. At

1:07:41

it and so can you watch these with me.

1:07:43

Because I I am not going to be able

1:07:45

to look at it objectively and I just need

1:07:47

to know. If

1:07:50

I should quit or what I'm

1:07:52

in no real else. I didn't

1:07:54

feel good. Yeah. And

1:07:56

I we watch Dailies and we're both

1:07:59

like yeah, you. Yeah.

1:08:01

It's good. You're fine, is gonna sound

1:08:03

bite damn damn with faint praise, but

1:08:05

we're both like your your girl dear

1:08:07

finder you know your your legitimate actor.

1:08:09

I mean I. I buy it whenever.

1:08:12

I'm. So

1:08:15

even when I was starting to work,

1:08:17

there was. There

1:08:19

was a little. Push. Back I

1:08:21

guess and you know some of that. I

1:08:23

don't. They fire you, Did you turn it

1:08:26

out on I'm I'm a member of Live

1:08:28

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1:08:30

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1:08:32

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1:08:35

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1:08:37

a rough allow. Who did I go to?

1:08:39

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1:08:43

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1:08:46

for Billie Baldwin. Billie. Baldwin was

1:08:48

always Cuban. Yeah, Yeah. He was

1:08:50

seen as don't back draft. He was done

1:08:52

like his big moves are like that guy.

1:08:58

But. Ah right. Our rights, I wouldn't

1:09:00

have your style. Go ahead. My

1:09:02

daughter's acting. She's twenty four stone

1:09:04

quite well, but you know, like,

1:09:06

like all actors so. So. Sometimes

1:09:09

say no or that person by

1:09:11

person as I don't worry about

1:09:13

it because it's gonna change to

1:09:15

a regular, another new person to

1:09:17

get a his rights race. I'm

1:09:19

not trying to put down Bobcat

1:09:21

Goldthwait. He's a great writer director

1:09:24

now, but sometimes when someone flares

1:09:26

up in the comedy scene, people

1:09:28

go Bobcat Goldthwait because there was

1:09:30

a time again Bob All respect.

1:09:32

yeah it easy pal. I love

1:09:34

him. But. When he was

1:09:36

the number one stand up comedian. Yeah,

1:09:39

Don't forget the these things change and I

1:09:41

could name. A. Dozen more that

1:09:44

that that flare up and when it's happening

1:09:46

it seems like this is what it is

1:09:48

and then when it goes away. I just had

1:09:50

my friend Jonathan Kite on the show is like

1:09:52

what I do impressions and so funny. If

1:09:54

I do an impression of an actor who's

1:09:56

not currently in a movie people actually eat

1:09:58

it is like I'm doing. Giamatti again

1:10:00

because of the holdovers, but then

1:10:03

if Giamatti takes a little break.

1:10:05

Where. I want to hear Giamatti. I was

1:10:07

like were so fickle writer Giamatti my g

1:10:09

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1:10:12

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1:10:33

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ups and downs and everything but term. Ya.

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head like he was just his mom and

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my lawn in I was like is get

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married other top my lived with his his

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your time at your daughter and and how

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I don't know, I don't or doing of. Them.

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The. Lesson our: I like I have

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more. Yeah, maybe less is more. I

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don't know, it's just the way I

1:16:07

do it And I'm not saying. It's

1:16:11

better than any other were or a or worse than any

1:16:13

other way or that I can't do any I was so

1:16:15

I would need. You know, how did.

1:16:18

Like. Help and

1:16:20

Support. To to to

1:16:22

come out at a different way and.

1:16:24

I'd love to. I'd love to try you

1:16:26

know, but I'm always going to try to

1:16:28

find that the truth and if it starts

1:16:31

to feel like just. I

1:16:34

guess the way I put it is like. If

1:16:37

if I feel like it's just a

1:16:39

point of view that I'm saying about

1:16:41

a character, like sometimes I feel like.

1:16:43

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1:16:46

and it's like. You. Must commenting

1:16:48

on it. You know an artist's

1:16:50

actually. Gallagher Boardwalk caricature.

1:16:53

You're. You're exaggerating it to make it. My

1:16:55

answer would so that the that the

1:16:57

people can hear can hear and in

1:16:59

and that's legitimate. You know that has

1:17:01

led to hear stuff too but. Yeah.

1:17:04

Just depends on what you think your audience's. That's.

1:17:07

True, we need pop music. There's nothing wrong

1:17:09

with yes, that's right. Yeah, Spob, you pop

1:17:11

music business. We need house And you know,

1:17:14

maybe it'll get you into something else. something

1:17:16

more title or whatever. But like him riders,

1:17:18

who can? Yeah, I think

1:17:20

that's really fun. Do you get the U F O

1:17:22

question? Now that you of us are fucking everywhere? I

1:17:25

I. I do. But.

1:17:28

I am. I just have nothing interesting

1:17:30

to about it at a gay. People

1:17:33

must. It will then let me ask

1:17:35

you this. how do you find being

1:17:38

David to come the in in the

1:17:40

public sphere like people ask me about

1:17:42

your foes People wanna have saved this

1:17:44

or that You enjoy. This life.

1:17:47

That you've built a word. Had a

1:17:49

hard. It's

1:17:53

funny because I think I i spoke earlier

1:17:55

about. Being. Misunderstood.

1:17:57

And how painful that is. How Painful.

1:18:00

That is, and. I.

1:18:02

Guess initially. When.

1:18:05

I was misunderstood for my character.

1:18:07

You know which is a. Ton.

1:18:09

Understandable thing you know to that's

1:18:11

how people. Know

1:18:14

me? And you will either mother. Yeah.

1:18:17

Yeah yeah. And.

1:18:20

When I misunderstood, what do you mean would

1:18:22

you like think that I'm older lady with

1:18:24

people mistaking you for malaria? It's. Not

1:18:26

Robin Williams. Get a More key. What

1:18:28

a heap. Remember I have story. He

1:18:31

won an Academy award next running. send

1:18:33

him yelled hey more can he was

1:18:35

eighty Another exchange right? right? So bad.

1:18:38

At it in like the heyday of it. As

1:18:42

the suggests. You know

1:18:44

and people don't think that I'm older

1:18:46

but cell phone? Call me that or.

1:18:49

Or. They'll ask me questions about your foes

1:18:51

or or your think that that I'm interested

1:18:54

in it. So at first it was. Frustrating.

1:18:57

Cause. The ego

1:19:00

army was like I'd like. I'm

1:19:02

way more interesting than that fucking

1:19:04

i haven't you question. We ask

1:19:06

me what I think about things

1:19:08

that I'm interested in. Arrive, Pay.

1:19:11

But. As city, ego and

1:19:13

and immaturity and eventually. Mostly

1:19:16

I just come in on is not a

1:19:18

sauna hundred percent. it's not always late a

1:19:20

mouse gray that but if I sizes com

1:19:22

the hundred percent routed of like holy shit

1:19:24

you know like it meant something. The people

1:19:27

you're still mean something the people they wanna

1:19:29

talk about it. Yeah. I'd I

1:19:31

spent a long time and a lot of

1:19:33

energy and a lot of my life force

1:19:35

doing at wanna honor it and say okay

1:19:37

let's we can have that Yeah. You.

1:19:40

Know those Tom Cruise stories where people say show me

1:19:42

the money and he'll just say it right back to

1:19:44

them. right? I always take

1:19:46

such. I don't know.

1:19:49

I do find it inspiring that he's

1:19:51

not like c'mon man. You. Know

1:19:53

what he means like look, there's a way

1:19:55

to do that that say. That.

1:19:57

You're just kind of like hitting the ball back as the

1:19:59

quick. His way out. but I think

1:20:01

you're doing it in really like us.

1:20:04

We know I was cheering acquire kinda

1:20:06

suck at believe it that way. I

1:20:08

see. I think it's you and Travolta.

1:20:10

I'm like this person's actually found a

1:20:12

way and I'm not in in the

1:20:14

same sphere is you guys. But like

1:20:17

if someone if someone comes up to

1:20:19

me now. And. They say something and

1:20:21

that happens to me. You know, most

1:20:23

days one time someone will say something.

1:20:25

I really try to take a moment.

1:20:28

To. Look At them. And. Say that

1:20:30

makes my day. Never and

1:20:32

and convert it as I just saw

1:20:34

you do it into gratitude not a

1:20:36

bump of he go. And

1:20:39

blow. But. Like holy shit

1:20:41

man. life is hard life

1:20:44

as long, life is lonely

1:20:46

and like you aren't. Moulder.

1:20:49

And you don't care about you don't have

1:20:51

to prove it to that person in the

1:20:53

nets raid. who isn't it? A

1:20:55

I'd this what I'm hearing you say is

1:20:58

that kind A magical and lovely that we

1:21:00

had any exchange. Were here on a planet

1:21:02

together. And that meant something to you

1:21:04

and that that I think the best thing

1:21:06

you can get from that. His. Gratitude

1:21:09

And that's that's what I heard he said. Yeah.

1:21:12

And I run into it like. If.

1:21:15

I if I'm signing books or

1:21:17

if I'm playing music, you know,

1:21:19

M. M. P. I

1:21:22

don't for myself, that. People.

1:21:24

Are interested in the at least at first

1:21:26

and my books or my music because they

1:21:28

they know me as an actor they'll want

1:21:31

me to. A

1:21:34

guy I will get prickly like if they

1:21:36

want me to sign this book of it

1:21:38

was created our californication called the of Unforgettable

1:21:40

as of take novel written by Hank Moody

1:21:42

and co op me to sign it and

1:21:44

and I'll get i'll get a little like

1:21:46

but I didn't write it I'm not sure.

1:21:48

I do. You know what's going on here

1:21:50

Like I've never read it? I don't. I don't

1:21:53

know what it is. I'm signing. that's your Larry

1:21:55

Bird who is a doctor. Jay restrict their

1:21:57

joke in each other on the Korea and

1:21:59

Larry won't. That that's your chokehold on

1:22:01

everyone's I know there's a lot of

1:22:03

things that people have a boundary and

1:22:05

I know therapist, but unlike specified boundary

1:22:08

auto added I didn't write it so

1:22:10

I don't I am. I won't sign

1:22:12

somebody elses book either like an Iguana

1:22:14

when I sign something else has been

1:22:16

staff and them. I.

1:22:19

Do. It. So

1:22:21

hard to even break even as

1:22:23

a music act when you're touring

1:22:25

these days, post covert and with

1:22:27

gas prices up, it's really difficult

1:22:29

time to. As

1:22:32

I say and I I just. Would.

1:22:34

Like to break even and so. What

1:22:37

I have to decrease like meet and greets

1:22:39

before. A concert. In.

1:22:41

A mirror. I will sign

1:22:43

and take a picture. And

1:22:46

this is how. I'm not

1:22:48

making money the Zoe breakeven and otherwise

1:22:50

forget it. Isn't the thirty Seconds

1:22:53

to Mars Strategy and sake? it's a

1:22:55

Jay Leno mean great. Anaconda.

1:22:57

I'm not putting down either Arab, your

1:22:59

me or his music. Obviously I'm not

1:23:01

op but to be fair, I mean.

1:23:05

Teeth. I have their big bands wow it

1:23:07

or don't mean greats Of course like bats.

1:23:10

it's it's it's hard out there it is.

1:23:12

Art of This. Know when I see Weezer

1:23:14

sharing a bell with Green Day? My.

1:23:16

First thought is. My. Actually

1:23:18

my first thought is that sounds really fun and

1:23:20

I ll I'm glad they're they're getting to do

1:23:23

it together and the and then someone else was

1:23:25

like it's cuz even big bands like won't sell

1:23:27

out a stay home anymore. But. Like

1:23:29

huge like already rang the bell, already done.

1:23:31

There are a trophy and it's like so

1:23:34

they they pair them up and you don't

1:23:36

have to tell me about selling tickets. I

1:23:38

know exactly how thick of it's own Some

1:23:40

of us are do these mean rates and

1:23:43

people? Have. Spent. Money.

1:23:46

And. Now they want a picture ml

1:23:48

sometimes go on the director in other

1:23:50

be like. In: can we

1:23:52

go back to back? Like with guns, you know,

1:23:54

and stuff like that. Other: Yes, you act like

1:23:57

you're scared of an alien amazon like that and

1:23:59

you know, Can. I.

1:24:01

Get. Early on a yeah yeah yeah

1:24:04

yeah maybe or not. but you

1:24:06

know what it leads year Priscilla:

1:24:08

look at my big dumb open

1:24:10

goofy face. I feel like a

1:24:12

nice splat. Details: me know. Is.

1:24:14

Still kind of allen. As. I've

1:24:17

said like no thanks, no

1:24:19

thanks, but I I'm like

1:24:21

no thanks. Yeah. I

1:24:23

I I I would Only here's

1:24:25

here's a outta your quickly. Yeah.

1:24:28

Ice I hear or

1:24:30

this guy comes. For

1:24:33

me, angry. And he's got. A

1:24:36

little horse. Like. From Californication.

1:24:38

And he's got a tiny little hammer

1:24:41

and he wants me to. Break.

1:24:43

The Headlight because the in the show. I

1:24:45

always had a broken headline on reports for

1:24:48

this fight and that's totally fine. You know

1:24:50

what I thought of this is kind of

1:24:52

people do at these mangers as in other

1:24:54

And then I realize you know I'm playing.

1:24:57

In. In Eastern Europe and and in

1:25:00

countries where. I've not been,

1:25:02

they haven't seen me ever and this is

1:25:04

the time. The. Know they've grown up

1:25:06

with my shows or whatever and. It's

1:25:08

kind of a it's a moment in

1:25:11

I'm like I know that I'm tired

1:25:13

or I gotta show to do later.

1:25:15

but fuck me I should show up

1:25:17

and be grateful for that. And

1:25:20

that gets back to the addition think as

1:25:23

I was in a as in a twelve

1:25:25

step meetings and the. I. Had to

1:25:27

go the golden globes and it was right after. All.

1:25:30

That notoriety. About.

1:25:33

Gonna way to rehab and are scared

1:25:35

of the red carpet as i I

1:25:37

didn't want people ask me questions I

1:25:40

do and and. Because

1:25:42

I didn't know what to say. Here. And

1:25:45

certainly wasn't any their business and

1:25:47

my kids were young and my

1:25:49

that mile mile my wife was

1:25:51

was hurting in arms like i'm

1:25:53

not that. I. Can

1:25:55

do a five second something?

1:25:58

I as a blurb. Whatever.

1:26:01

I don't have a book modern Eminem. I'm in the

1:26:03

middle of it. And what's going

1:26:05

on? Bomb exploded. I'm sandy and

1:26:07

rubble and how? You're asking me

1:26:09

enough Soon as the rubble. As

1:26:12

a rebel done who just you rebels

1:26:15

must still smoke and. So.

1:26:20

I was gonna complaining or just.

1:26:22

Expressing my confusion and as meaning bad for

1:26:24

I don't know I don't know how to

1:26:26

be as I I knew how to be

1:26:28

before That. I knew how to. I.

1:26:31

Knew how to do the thing. I knew how

1:26:33

to do the carpet. I knew how to make

1:26:35

a joke. I. Knew how to be

1:26:38

easy and of how to be winning. I

1:26:40

knew I had a do it and all

1:26:42

the sudden I did not do it and.

1:26:45

This. Guy goes. Why?

1:26:47

You just be grateful a are there. Was

1:26:51

like. Room. I

1:26:55

try that. And were

1:26:57

tried gratitude for. I'm.

1:27:00

So. What I did was as like okay,

1:27:03

And that's my master plan. It's it's

1:27:05

all I'm going to do. Like.

1:27:08

I'm only going to be grateful. So.

1:27:12

I get like energy, Him a teenager

1:27:14

maneuvers in one of those silly shells

1:27:16

and. Say. Hello David

1:27:19

Such year Tessier? hum yeah.

1:27:21

as as a as a

1:27:23

family. has an has

1:27:25

as as term effects. And

1:27:28

I and I go. Hey,

1:27:31

thank you for asking. I'm really.

1:27:33

it's really nice that you care.

1:27:36

And I I really appreciate your concern.

1:27:38

It's not something I'm talking about right

1:27:41

now, but I really am. I'm

1:27:43

really so thankful that you. The.

1:27:45

To ask. And I watch

1:27:47

this guy's face go from like. A

1:27:50

my poking a bear to I'm

1:27:52

a really good person I'm an

1:27:55

excellent person what you did find

1:27:57

that fun fitness as debate type

1:27:59

freeze. You. Find A by the vulgar I

1:28:01

just i just gratitude and him. And

1:28:04

the buzzer there was also true. You.

1:28:07

Know in a perverse way. There.

1:28:09

Was care. Ah didn't

1:28:11

you found the care yet that

1:28:13

I love the shared that and

1:28:15

that strategy. A brief framing,

1:28:18

Even something that is. And.

1:28:20

A task. Yeah, right. It's worse

1:28:22

than intrusive. It it it's it's you know

1:28:24

they're looking for. Rent. Money.

1:28:27

Blood for money. And like

1:28:29

this old, more eyeballs, more adds more

1:28:32

may. Run. Off your hurt.

1:28:35

But. To to. Find. What's

1:28:37

behind? I guess the humanity behind it.

1:28:40

And if you're a this what you

1:28:42

did you imposed humanity. yeah you boost

1:28:44

their humanity back into the and you

1:28:46

can always do that. And can

1:28:48

always do that in any situation and

1:28:50

I think. It's good for

1:28:52

me to remind myself that it's an

1:28:54

option. He. As far as a good

1:28:56

is always a good awesome. I completely

1:28:59

agree. I don't think I've ever gone to

1:29:01

shit. I wish I had spit some fucking

1:29:03

traits of know and they say you can't

1:29:05

feel afraid and grateful at the same time.

1:29:07

You know it's funny with that. What's.

1:29:10

Next disease that we all have. I

1:29:12

think all. Maybe. I'll people I

1:29:14

don't know, but certainly our creative that I know.

1:29:17

I kind of thinking about the next thing. And

1:29:19

one of things speed gratitude that I do in the

1:29:22

mornings at Gratitude Practice where you. Think.

1:29:24

Of three moments for one minute each from your

1:29:26

life that you can be grateful for. Him and

1:29:28

as bad as to me, it's better than writing

1:29:30

it down. He put on some music and you

1:29:32

just do it. And here's the hope

1:29:34

that I'm trying to share with you: didn't even

1:29:36

if you weren't enjoying it when you did, it.

1:29:39

Which. Is certainly the case for me when I was

1:29:41

on the head of shows I made You can go

1:29:43

back and relive it. Yeah. From this

1:29:45

perspective and go like oh my god,

1:29:47

it's you and and you're doing californication

1:29:49

her on a week. He doesn't even

1:29:51

have to be a big moment. in

1:29:53

fact, it often isn't. It's not like

1:29:55

I nailed that. take did that big

1:29:57

moment are there was a big star.

1:30:00

Who cares, you were just there

1:30:02

that wasn't funny as many players

1:30:04

like if if I'm watching. By.

1:30:07

Mistake. I don't do it on purpose if I

1:30:09

if I'm flipping channels and I I. See

1:30:12

Exiles come on. Usually x was

1:30:14

cause. Californication doesn't

1:30:17

really play like I fall says, but.

1:30:20

Ever ever show or come on.

1:30:23

That. I don't remember shooting, but I'll

1:30:26

remember what I had for lunch

1:30:28

that day and said or you

1:30:30

know I'll remember that week. I.

1:30:32

Don't remember the plot I care act Now I

1:30:34

can handle I memorized those lines. I don't remember

1:30:37

those those lines of just foreign to me. As

1:30:40

have like little slices of just human

1:30:42

laughter connections friends that as I am

1:30:45

our with what I was doing around

1:30:47

that time in my life. And

1:30:50

even very specifically, almost to that

1:30:52

episode that I don't remember, but

1:30:54

I remember shooting. And human

1:30:56

as you say in the process of it

1:30:58

and he talks about like what what next

1:31:00

there's a more whatever you call it was

1:31:03

next isn't when as is that you are

1:31:05

you gonna. I heard

1:31:07

you call a on your vanity fair thing. Either

1:31:09

gay guy have some code was an

1:31:11

art I'm sorry my the great I'm

1:31:14

grateful for than sit. I.

1:31:16

I I would say that. I

1:31:21

don't have the ice, I still have

1:31:23

a little bit, but I'm really. Aware

1:31:26

that the only thing that.

1:31:29

That's deeply as the process you know

1:31:31

I got. Be proud of the finished

1:31:33

product. Sure that's a nice feeling but.

1:31:37

The process of the all the.

1:31:39

In. We're all just try to make of

1:31:41

the shower, the movie, the whatever. Together

1:31:43

we're just doing our best trying to

1:31:45

do this thing and there's something beautiful

1:31:47

about that process and the slow some

1:31:49

time so well is. there was one

1:31:51

saying that just felt like I was

1:31:54

from god in a like a for

1:31:56

like gods. A slight was with me.

1:32:00

Yes, I'm sorry. Keep going. Yeah.

1:32:03

That's it and so says really. This.

1:32:05

Really? disturb? I guess it's

1:32:08

almost a cliche now, but as really, Embracing.

1:32:11

That the all of life's his

1:32:13

business process and not And that

1:32:15

results. I completely agree And that's

1:32:17

what I couldn't wait to tell you. It's.

1:32:20

Written On a lot of things are written on

1:32:22

my merit. One of them is everything is an

1:32:24

excuse to love which has a cliche but. When.

1:32:27

Know doesn't doesn't So many present. I'm glad

1:32:29

I'm worried that the word love is ruined.

1:32:32

Loved. Me as the recognition that you

1:32:34

and I have it a shared being that

1:32:36

in our essence where exactly the same and

1:32:38

when human beings struggle in the same direction.

1:32:41

Or there's there's great stories of that. Great

1:32:43

in every way. But in a world where

1:32:45

to London is being bombed and if you

1:32:47

interview the people that live there at that time

1:32:49

they were like right now. What?

1:32:51

That meant London right now. Are you really.

1:32:54

That. We know you go and see that the roundabouts

1:32:56

with the lions and they're still holds it up. You

1:32:58

know you see Obama to drop. The.

1:33:00

People at that time said it was

1:33:02

the happiest time of their life and

1:33:04

when they look at that psychologically to

1:33:06

like human beings struggling in the same

1:33:09

direction or. Reach a level

1:33:11

of filament that nothing else can do

1:33:13

and I know it's it's crazy. Look

1:33:15

out weight. Or. Like him that

1:33:18

to a lot of things not just

1:33:20

acting, but any project. It could

1:33:22

be at a high school project. in a

1:33:24

science project. it doesn't matter how how fleet

1:33:26

of are dividing through government. Was.

1:33:28

At Good Waiting For Government. That's exactly what Waiting

1:33:31

for Government is about The as you have a

1:33:33

lot of that they have the love. That's.

1:33:35

Right? An elite did for or best

1:33:37

and so all his movies are about.

1:33:40

And you did Larry Sanders and

1:33:42

and Gary. When he

1:33:44

gets handling. when he did the pot at I

1:33:46

had heard him say before though he said that

1:33:48

show was about people who love each other. but

1:33:50

show business gets in the way and I would

1:33:52

go farther and say. This. Podcast

1:33:54

is an excuse to love each

1:33:56

other. This this this day, the

1:33:58

every moment is. An excuse. To.

1:34:02

Find. Some connection and that's

1:34:04

what. So offensive. When. We

1:34:06

blow that and actually make more.

1:34:09

A dry summers are or whatever

1:34:11

more division. We're. I.

1:34:13

Like the phrase i like the like excuse

1:34:16

in the phrase that's what I that's why

1:34:18

I suffer because of that surprises me Yes

1:34:20

us with makes it not a cliche. The

1:34:22

me. Oh I'm so glad. Yeah, no

1:34:24

it's it's like. That's what we're

1:34:27

saying about performing to it's it's an excuse.

1:34:29

To hang out in this energy you thought

1:34:32

you can be here. My new material were

1:34:34

actually trying to create a little a little

1:34:36

bubble together fine. Let's you

1:34:38

mentioned at the top we always on the

1:34:40

show by talking little bit about spirituality. I'm

1:34:43

getting the sense that you you're interested in

1:34:45

that and have some take on it so

1:34:47

I couldn't be more interested As I'll I'll

1:34:49

say what if there have been things that

1:34:52

you've found. Ah, wait a minute.

1:34:54

You are kind of like a Richard Gere type.

1:34:56

Are you a buddhist? The. Was

1:34:59

you know my young my name

1:35:01

means to have new means spiritual.

1:35:03

Really? Actually means dose

1:35:05

and his spirit or ghost.

1:35:08

Or teacher or rabbi is my grandmother

1:35:10

was her. And

1:35:13

of new as like her

1:35:15

as Teibel ending like spiritual

1:35:17

or ghostlike or Rabbi Our

1:35:20

while. So it's right

1:35:22

there in your name. Is. A My name. I.

1:35:24

Can't hide from it. and I spurs

1:35:26

for yeah, I'm not. I'm not a.

1:35:29

Part. Of any group for or

1:35:32

or name's thing but that

1:35:34

that's it's all we've been

1:35:36

talking about. I agree. That's

1:35:39

that's all we've been talking about. And

1:35:41

that's when you when you talk about love. That.

1:35:45

That's the sentiment them for gone. I

1:35:47

mean that's the most these synonym for

1:35:49

guy god is love minutes the same

1:35:52

thing and it's or. You. Know

1:35:54

the buddhist have a really interesting. Relationship.

1:35:56

To A because. The you

1:35:58

know. Attachment and detachment.

1:36:01

How can you. How

1:36:03

can you be attached to something? Was

1:36:06

gonna die so painful. That's why lights

1:36:08

are suffering. That's why they acknowledge that

1:36:10

and the first noble truth. Lies are

1:36:13

suffering. while because there were these infinite

1:36:15

beings doomed to a finite existence. Very

1:36:17

painful, very heartbreaking. Think about it too

1:36:19

much, which he do on some level

1:36:22

all the time. And

1:36:25

them. So. Says constant

1:36:27

struggle between attachment, a detachment

1:36:29

and. Was acting

1:36:31

and was making art. You can

1:36:34

attach so intensely to something. And.

1:36:37

You know you're going to detach eventually.

1:36:40

You know you know the truth,

1:36:42

that it's just that, a fleeting

1:36:44

attachment to this job, or this

1:36:46

joker, this book, or the song,

1:36:48

or this performance. But.

1:36:50

The beauty of it is is really

1:36:52

attaching to it. Even so even some.

1:36:55

Is so you go into the flow and you give

1:36:57

yourself up to it. Even so

1:36:59

you you know it can break your heart

1:37:01

when you have to leave. it was detached

1:37:04

from and so unless you risk lab. Here

1:37:06

as way we love underdogs, choices

1:37:08

were all essentially underdogs. It's it's

1:37:11

it's maybe not Hires What buggy

1:37:13

fucking Dennis about when he says

1:37:15

you know. I. Got scared of

1:37:17

losing you and I couldn't attach again. Because

1:37:20

I I realize that being attached to

1:37:22

use too painful yeah that it would

1:37:24

kill me. If. You done? Yet

1:37:27

and. That's it. We're like that to. you

1:37:29

know where we have to. We.

1:37:31

Have to mature past that point where

1:37:33

were too scared to attach in him.

1:37:36

Cause. There's going to be painful. I

1:37:38

agree. I've actually had moments. I don't know

1:37:40

if I can articulate it now. But.

1:37:42

I've had moments is interconnected

1:37:45

ceiling. Like of the like out. A

1:37:47

piss in moment where I'm like oh my god

1:37:49

I ketamine as ketamine isn't Well, yes, it might

1:37:51

have to. This one wasn't ketamine, but it's similar

1:37:53

to ketamine. And and when it happens and you

1:37:55

just in the back of a car, that's where

1:37:57

I was. I was I, I, I was being.

1:38:00

In somewhere and who just looking out

1:38:02

the window and I thought like oh

1:38:04

my god the most hate filled people

1:38:06

are are too scared to love If

1:38:09

there's a group that's being murdered or

1:38:11

or oppressed. You.

1:38:13

Other them and it's horrible And then

1:38:15

I was like, but really and underneath

1:38:17

that like you're on the red carpet,

1:38:20

there's love. There's a secret love that

1:38:22

it's too painful for you to risk.

1:38:24

That's my brother. Not or

1:38:26

one level further. that's me.

1:38:29

And. Then not that's not another, so

1:38:31

is yours shadow. Was. That

1:38:33

was my shadow. That's that's the music.

1:38:35

but I bet I'm not going to

1:38:37

face or that I wish. oh. That's

1:38:40

right. and and then is. It is what

1:38:42

you give him another name, you make all

1:38:44

these excuses a different story, and then it's

1:38:46

okay that they're dying or it. Where they're

1:38:49

being oppressed to do this or that. And

1:38:51

and Rhonda talks about how costly it is

1:38:53

to love A He says the whole point

1:38:55