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well or the we if we should

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have been in our lovely studio media city

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have cove it's so we are such

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sound of a plane got either were under the flight path of

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manchester add more i had and

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, he had a dog next door does not

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guys get his really

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i think fantasies of me a doesn't

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is the comeback kid

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we always just assumed that

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even to be i'd even a death in

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i mean is crazy and

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i think that taking about sinking that

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the semifinal and i

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incredibly proud of but

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the pathetic but pathetic was just so you stay

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around you guys ever say nothing is been really

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distance from high never seen it humans

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that he knew was gonna come with known

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for so long it was gonna come probably

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even canada yeah we needed

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it wasn't a million miles away but

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you still just always thing day

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oil or a

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guy but i think i'll said it didn't the

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on the was out how said that

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you know the do even when he got to like week

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for a size i was saying

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energy thing to think he might just cnn

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because it happened my son it to happen so much

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to swim we thought was it teaches

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stern the just

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come back and it been as fi so

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strange so when the

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when i found out and i got the text and stuff really

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different from stuff at school the fall because didn't

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believe it or , with other

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people that with list along the way that

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soul i can it

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was gonna happen but with that's it

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it finally cope with her think under

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the are they learn you're exactly right

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then very different from that era ninety nine

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percent of the english speaking world and i'm

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beyond english speaking world who have

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, morning of the last year the last few days

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recording this on monday she died on the

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tuesday last week and

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the old i'm in er she's just this

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incredible campaign at the theater instagram

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and sita a dame heard some of

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his he does she does that the last several weeks slice

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it out a best selling book and all the rest of

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it then plenty was either

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she was just amazing yeah and

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and that you know i should say say the person

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that when

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you talk him as at that but he said low

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and about about common in in a not sourdough

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like a drum of the times he came in was

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the how backwards and and and

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over the place i ever got as i

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was of gum is to net like says

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she got just five minutes ago we've been site

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to the studio and she's still but embed yeah

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and she dropped dead and loads a state

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an absolute stay and she never looked

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as they disease he was always loved to the max

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have a slow so funny and and

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because of that so i was going on on

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planet a logo and concerned compliance over

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lot of a hotdog logos on and on and

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said she sat said looking looking

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like yeah like like some kind

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of was some com of as

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a nice to

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see was just that wasn't see seats to do

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that i have a son something that was

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was leatherwood to different people that was bob

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able to dive and that i had to say

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on a clip i'm on the bbc

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documentary lawsuit the weeks in a we

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were lucky enough to be and and she said the above

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i was a sandwich cooler than her she to soon as

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an institution things she was of

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bases i institution heard about by

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was his was just was

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in a so what's cooler and and as kiss ass

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cancer campaign there was that was

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the

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who the a bit more than a mere mortals

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and say that turned out but i think see she described

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his era alter ego him at

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a very much was or alter ego and

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it was interesting because he never

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is i think com the he said it was a

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result or or lauren books you never

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knew which that was going it's had a hasidic yeah

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that is interesting because a cosponsor

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states he they allow i think the

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rain said it you know she was always just a maximally

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but lie he said lover or know how i'd

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say

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james i spent most

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of the first two years of a full classical

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a day when he got off to manchester

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stood at does he get guys eastern with

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a chick is are collected she's running like

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as you coffees i just thought of they're going

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places fancies mike the shrine and

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then it would be like in my head is benny hill music

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professor of her running down the ramp

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or never know which the weldon sometimes it was like

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his entire of er dieses as a filthy hop than

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of the epic flowing dress in high heels to

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the is always on take on it is always had

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sari saris i've run into them

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the i didn't you mister show's rachel's funeral and he can

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this is what am i say story that today embassy

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with how funny about it was hilarious

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we kept saying police seized zoo

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to see the one honey cannot miss sitter

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the super cool to have on his station

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and on the early cause is obscene or allows

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are not only just bereft but just nervous

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for missing a tree or deborah james

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deborah james as message and message and like i'm

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tiffany from michael w go to make at the time got

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high side of a size two kinds of about if you

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know place you just hold on please he

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just hold on and then whatever run

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down the saying like to live

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in a big black hat i think she had the big that

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causes on is what out there but no

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i live in or out which had a massive bad

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without to settle less doesn't it

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then you got member this on devils william bell around

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them was outside

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the time yeah i think he was

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the non saliva not as you dive into

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side effects as isis interesting

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and six cause what is not going to why you were like know

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train twenty minutes later he met

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buckle fail go suck it up so we will

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death to like oh i am i

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promissory him so she was like oh

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that's okay and though the line is taxes

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on the law the right outside the taxi rank

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nights at another love this silesia

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it say about this weekend cause it sounds like something

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creature a than a cat

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hey originated rights or whatever

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or how can we face was a christmas said

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nobody would say it's

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what was that if you remember ah

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this as this as of has amazonis a

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what as a good miami's if i lived happily

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reliably bread of of a vicious every hours

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i'm on a child and we were in the middle of the church that we we

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try to hold it together not with tears of

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sadness at that point but of loft time

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does philips c9 what shows is going thinking?

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it was crying know that

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that eventually things are today

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we thought that look at look what

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about what she did give it full cast of

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miles an hour one hundred

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percent as us all the time limit

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is to compare the street so she said to ourselves

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like whatever she does she wanted to do the best i

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sort of like you guys notice that whenever we do

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anything she wants another stop with the readership well states

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will stop when going to do this we're going to do that that's

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, we loved the box she always pushed for us to do

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the very best and like to really

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give it some never any

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through it half assed he just wanted the

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like make so that we can do the best possibly

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third and even like in the last few weeks

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as guns show like do you know anyone

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else i could not nine percent any

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celebrity anyone who would

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come to the end of allies and

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the things that she's started

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think well if it let's let's

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let's go back inside their yes what

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the front of you are the nice because he

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appointed by pointing to a aggressively what's

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the virus mls what's what's

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your first memory of the woman

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the will become dame deborah james the

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first memory have been have been aware of that

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instagram really like i

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can see in this woman popoff and she

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was talking about page if it was great

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and that he just seems really

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quite well

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i like has to the money the a good way

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full of energy

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cb

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there's a busy woman and to be honest

14:03

because i was in the breast cancer circle robin

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about cats southward overseas a different race

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and advice mom this i wasn't in that kind

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of circle so is more when right

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the shots me a muscles about the plaza

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with all that to bow by that properly jokes on

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of the oh yes she means business he's

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a bit of ours

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then we just get into neither like ike as a set

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of golf the trainer

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image is because they the off spend two to half hours

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of on our soil you know that way

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the mates like she's force nature

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crowd a guide we didn't struggled a bit so that was never

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awkward you have it is thought i

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had a few assess the told you this never a problem

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not enough for the exits the success

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of yeah everybody people that would said to

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her father's even the of have plenty to say the

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using his mates it was not aware

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i leave after woefully

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variable like the amount of train journeys i'd

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spend with deborah james and i was

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always one of two things i read

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be her talking about an

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instagram and wanting

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to know what this seats was would not be towards would

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you know about the so what does is what was best hunt

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paused or this stuff and i simply that

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my mother all my of a day off more for

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me see fly and on instagram also

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found about i may yes he got his and

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then then thing would be her convince

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myself that he had some kind of mythos disease

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i there was

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in a lot of trying chinese up to chester

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i'm where she would be telling me that shy

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quiet about had eight and she

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was worried diet could be in the brain

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on i said well did you upset at yesterday she's

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like nice yeah i

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got to the prosecco last i yes yes

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yeah well maybe his wife have loved suzy

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out that this by the unless wanna see things my a when

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it is that what they had they had speech dogs

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are they the having it was the wind assure the boys

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doesn't go as a dingy died and you go by mess

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he's like yeah but you would often joked

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about in fukushima says like she knew we the

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ride is almost right

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me we should have that kind of been with each other you

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know we talked

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it right to did a may as well like the

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text that devon hi send each other like

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are you we could really have that bond are in people

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not be aghast i

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was our first

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wherever i remember we're driving to

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some to pay a monitor many trees right to

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use to book when she thought she was dying and

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she said book he leaves it up against realize his

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agent his so we were on a drive and it's

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on the i for down to santa fe members

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live really close it i've long as you said ah it's wonderful

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to see that pertains to pay as

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pertains used to presents and she's are all this is is amazing

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like cancer this instagram have amazing

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for that southern seas and she got ball concerts

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have seas seat at glamorous and see as he's

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in santa fe at the moment of

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course i we didn't add to that was has

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my first

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i'd say probably

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even before see

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had restart but august there

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she already colored how old are in and not colors rates

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always thought the hugo's made a job

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at a little bit cooler the

16:58

related how she always gonna fall

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no no she did she did threats

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or was it was concerned that out for people

17:05

and she definitely felt was you guys just made

17:07

a a little bit cooler you know your your

17:09

this kind of edgy light london girl and

17:11

that's despite glam

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and i am but what about town

17:17

rachel looked up in a she loved hug it out

17:19

with you to of in as many many many reasons

17:22

but it has not been one of the misses his

17:24

she thought you guys elevated her her

17:26

cool as little but i'm a doctor's advice

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for a cold mother debbie said

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mail not cool is your much is because you said

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it would yeah just as well with

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amazon's by the way said

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said the overtime or not as cool as he lower

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i get definitely definitely

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that associate by their breath on about

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you as well because i remember being

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nervous i think it was before

17:54

christmas when we first or this conversation about

17:56

the part as he was being nervous

17:58

she was nervous the you both say yes

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and you both the i'm bored i think that the what

18:03

does that the phrase cousy used i really

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hope we i'll get on board and

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am and yes she was jar

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she was just like punched in the eye when you both so

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enthusiastic and my to so

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please am and have am decent

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casting a safe rates elizabeth i wrote elizabeth

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for a decent as they did i was under under you

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guys see that sexually out of this is

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a you guys will come on the a lot of these forecasts

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and bbc that

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always get it right when it comes to costume shows an old

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custom thing i'm , sure the rachel

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species didn't seem as we the people itself

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such a long list as well that was the

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thing that was laura was like a seventh the right

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yeah

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connie yeah but

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he was easy and her mind mind

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was obviously looking and searching

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and it was obviously in mind i think we've

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talked about it before the the the original thing

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with the kinds of squad and there was a big long list

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of name on it didn't take long

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to just go he favors

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don't dump and as she puts he'd

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obviously circenses on a lot of

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lot work other than that of the people

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ask about lot because like with it

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this is story i thought i

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guess is about the talk us as well as know and and and

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what's your first memory he you to

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have when

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there were a when you first when

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you first met that at the start of the soldier

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the my my , was

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so like said of a lot of the time the casting

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can take a while with podcast book that i

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think the stories been told before it was really

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weird with you may big say that the

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it basically there was a little cold with

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a rate slows and depths and you

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might might i wasn't on that

19:42

so the first son on that you all was in the studio

19:44

when were recorded that first episode on

19:47

it was just it was unbelievable

19:50

the that was the first time that you

19:52

guys had met in person or may mike

19:54

didn't find out til after the first pro

19:56

after the first part of be recorded and

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the

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no shots because it was like this magic

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in there that we actually had to put you back

20:04

in the studio to say and the mike this

20:06

is the first time with manifest because we we

20:08

couldn't believe it the conversations you're having

20:11

the the magnetism between all of you

20:13

to sway your bouncing around it was a was

20:15

ridiculous but these

20:18

are the characters again the

20:20

casting you try and cover certain

20:22

basis the thing with

20:25

the holy trinity the say this

20:28

you know you all had your individual characters

20:30

and depths was an

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rarely rarely kind of sophisticated

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the

20:37

we said earlier on in this part the

20:39

will decide to i when you really got to know

20:42

yes she was sophisticated when she wanted to be

20:44

but the flip side the with the us with

20:46

it she was a little bit mad yeah

20:49

the we don't say to she left and a little

20:51

bit on in

20:52

she also it's funny when you just ask

20:54

that question before i was thinking about it and obviously over

20:56

the last so , days will ever

20:58

has been you know be think a we all i've

21:00

been thinking a lot about that right and

21:02

a i i sort of look to i

21:04

i went through my whatsapp i was looking at sleep

21:07

for i'm just for phone number for for

21:09

some of them depths from in touch with with

21:12

a darren who voices i really

21:14

think we should give them a them lie

21:16

and off holiday and off

21:19

hold on off how can

21:21

we just declare that says username and yeah

21:23

yeah actually i thank you but what i was looking as

21:26

i looked at my first what that message from

21:28

those interested and a t

21:30

it might mean attacks know think it was a want it to

21:32

remember and it was after

21:34

that phone call and we stop this

21:36

phone call and then we started talking the end

21:38

of the about podcasting and the and

21:41

deborah and this some are up to a to

21:43

seven if you messages are so

21:46

i'm how will this work are so yeah

21:48

how we get out of the trials what was just be an apple with

21:50

apple movie that movie live in it and it was incredible

21:53

and incredible was just i i it really made

21:55

me smile because i thought that was deborah

21:58

like if whether it was a kind of the or

22:00

whether his hair campaigning oh look it's she

22:02

wanted to know everything didn't see she was a

22:04

self proclaimed geek see i see said

22:06

it so many signs on his podcast and

22:08

i just made me smile because he was one of the

22:10

first ones while others probably think

22:12

law this is gonna be a great loss of my that

22:14

call wait scares the other step who's already

22:17

thinking how we gonna make this the biggest

22:19

podcast like as i know where i'd rather

22:21

be fought the color of his trying to find that see

22:23

the first offense was up as in a semi

22:25

kind of the really know you guys that while before rates

22:27

of i did i know because you didn't let you want

22:29

somebody doesn't the podcast i got out

22:31

i met know couple of times before that i think

22:34

and i was at that with of the summit the day and

22:36

it was

22:37

aka by now but it was about three

22:39

day before a to died and and and

22:42

i'm have i'm have wouldn't even knew what was happening by

22:44

that point and them okay

22:48

lot of messages either awful for for

22:50

gosh he said how are you there were so sorry

22:53

saturate so in the plaza thing

22:56

the absolute just right well can

22:58

i do how can i help

23:00

what can i do it as the south

23:02

sea lice what media don't we

23:04

to do satellites a precipitous i'd

23:06

like to go as a they have as much as

23:09

, i have enabled enabled

23:11

a i quite fancy that a lot so what

23:14

can i do and them of just on super

23:16

practical does nothing super practical it was in in

23:18

the slightest bit go see which though often a lot

23:20

of under president this of the and i looked at

23:22

low

23:23

the need people to savio or thought it

23:25

was around that yeah no rifling

23:28

sad

23:28

the don't have that shows how often are affection

23:30

is that she did things so like

23:32

dead is have a nice people with something bad happened

23:35

she wouldn't be like oh my

23:37

god oh my god you know how i will cry and go

23:39

home what i'm so that's very like that

23:41

kind of empathy to spills out was a the

23:43

deborah's i again is just asked as often

23:45

as i was a call

23:47

amount of money or found the first

23:49

messages and the sit so

23:52

this was i don't wanna say was

23:54

save us all ready to dive and she said as it for

23:56

the process on such as rachel

23:58

hi right say

24:00

they would hop recently read your message a

24:02

bit you only have to the as our

24:07

you lack and op or costs evening

24:09

and the pixies has supported

24:12

and help many people you

24:30

our schools in our hearts are mine

24:33

and it breaks our hearts and i you

24:35

are coming three that's right now and

24:38

i know that you wouldn't life one and

24:40

anticipated asking all with it

24:42

pretty well crop know how incredible

24:44

his moments the

24:54

past few days you are not a

25:05

week you apply and with us and

25:07

always will

25:09

photographer things have a semi by

25:11

the data for it's with us wow

25:14

that was ever see where i was

25:16

he deflator rachel murray

25:19

said it to me earlier and at and we all know this

25:22

whenever that to how to make a speech for

25:24

send a message but especially my kids

25:26

speak to go on t v she'd

25:28

always say definitely flawless

25:31

yeah that was just flawless

25:34

just don't i like

25:38

i think one be something with

25:44

story

25:46

about to amazing with it

25:50

that by snow here

25:56

does it feel very sad and i'm so proud of what

25:58

we've done beaches

25:59

one final no i meet

26:03

i just feel like is think amazing

26:05

thing

26:06

and it wasn't the thing with us or

26:08

physically there

26:11

was with my lifelines rachel nice

26:16

it was as he was

26:18

an extraordinary boca soon see

26:21

by sicily so you

26:24

know even even then that was

26:26

in was very early on in and everything

26:30

to lie for l r and and if i radio for

26:32

voice all might cause you

26:35

, navy in that boys know what

26:37

is on the voice and see like the and i says

26:39

like by clicking to mode and sit around certain

26:41

words and insemination

26:45

still appreciate has i mean even with

26:47

stage four foul hello

26:50

this is a life i've living as

26:52

a son isn't ,

26:55

sad as most is

26:57

that the sir that the just gonna be listening boxer

26:59

lots of stuff and both

27:01

lawyers under of the very

27:03

first hearing the big see both

27:05

sides we've never been in a radius either

27:07

before i myself escaped or what

27:09

is this day with the paper ,

27:12

nothing else i didn't have to say that that

27:15

nothing thus weber and economies are lower

27:17

figure out as figure

27:20

yeah i am very proud of for as a number

27:22

of what causes is are you guys

27:24

not to swear out with me now when i get my

27:26

actually my say swearing shot

27:29

at the awesome very well it's a lot

27:31

abbreviate city so if you move

27:34

the said that he though carry on the legacy

27:36

of ease

27:37

both of you both of you and

27:39

steve

27:41

you couldn't have done any more and

27:43

what have what we just witnessed

27:45

a the last six weeks is a combination

27:48

and yes separate did a lot different era you've gotta

27:50

acknowledge that patsy with the

27:52

force of nature but and

27:54

she said it himself the podcast man

27:56

everything's her and that was the platform

27:59

and my

27:59

it

28:00

sadly the right to the pied

28:03

died

28:04

point ye i'd

28:06

i'd other want to be home by rachel i'm

28:09

my word as he did you say

28:12

that sooner the level all of these

28:14

days you , and i'm certainly

28:16

deborah you all it's

28:18

okay to you you did he did of so

28:21

proud like you did a so proud

28:25

i just like gospel of than the in together

28:27

and like and carving all my god

28:30

you to like the rebellion and

28:32

lol i have see steve that i could just imagine

28:34

like my tree and have

28:36

really needed

28:37

hey maybe a bully and

28:39

i'm dad's got little money to me like

28:42

two thousand

28:43

the family is the up there in the you

28:45

know just you know the know

28:47

you had your time goes the lazy

28:49

a business ,

28:52

pocus within city said larry to forty say

28:54

like you to eat i wasn't that that

28:56

exact was said it i have just imagine rate

28:58

scary scary probably the first

29:00

the i can't believe you got made

29:02

a day when i yeah let's

29:07

see that once you so much

29:09

of the book or something she was so accomplished by

29:11

the entrances yeah i know my the headlights

29:14

if oscar players who just been so so

29:16

accomplice to look us take on

29:18

the punter armisen that all the bbc

29:20

their breakfast bucket didn't things she was

29:22

so accomplice the leslie

29:25

so that's the thing that blew my mind is david

29:27

site i know she was a teacher

29:29

before was have to address people and like

29:31

the arctic sea that but she just had

29:33

this way of delivering information off the

29:35

costs a lot like lives near the

29:37

i just is like okay i'm

29:39

so impressed by and like

29:42

on the podcast even nice know bill will

29:44

be nice

29:45

the try know i are talking mother's talk about

29:47

the drug had asked me

29:49

the that awesome a had the big day am

29:51

thought like we'd have these charts and them again the studio

29:54

and and

29:55

he just went into this

29:57

the when you pull cosmos did actually as i'm an aussie

29:59

so privilege to have been part of

30:02

staff journey with have and see

30:04

that how could you could always there

30:06

was an asshole classes like disheartened

30:09

it didn't it really is seen

30:11

as a last bucks the at

30:13

you all have the only that but he

30:15

never lost that thing that wiki says the humor

30:17

she didn't lose it completely so she'd

30:20

always like pushed the be twinkling the i

30:22

you need something with com at this article

30:24

would be commended a bank or had this is

30:26

i think him the yeah

30:28

one of the first big awards of the one with the trick award wasn't

30:31

as yeah best august have all left i was away

30:33

with i knew that the us to the make is a debit i just

30:35

one i mean when they we went

30:37

through up against the piece of our focus is of a sad

30:39

as sad juvenile a focus it and

30:42

look i we got they're not really know what it

30:44

was

30:46

there was this enormous event with all

30:48

the great and goes on tv lately everybody

30:50

was i'd like to dynamite did say oh and for

30:52

say either after i just see

30:54

about what else has some as i love

30:56

islands yesterday overhangs

30:58

that you'd have love no i didn't have an absolutely

31:00

no close either way we won the award this as

31:02

he put he helped of a boom boom they would

31:05

that what it it's what you do or say of i said

31:08

right or to say thank you sir like mike allen

31:10

lower new on to sell hess that

31:12

and she's i am i find out they have

31:14

to do about of coffee things are is a little

31:16

twinkling the ice the

31:19

got that in front of everybody

31:21

from sally i was for

31:24

a us the

31:26

nervous and see this delivered the

31:28

slow speeds for about five six

31:30

seven minutes educate

31:33

everyone on on bowel cancer

31:35

symptoms and thought to look out for how

31:37

serious the problem was and literally

31:39

just just what into this mode

31:41

where where she was just she

31:44

was just on it like possessed

31:47

the be i know that know that and thanks

31:49

to might loner

31:53

are you very much access

31:56

to the west side road the that is earth whole

31:58

place is on their feet

31:59

it must a standing ovation obviously

32:02

it off the was like everyone's couple over

32:04

to her want a piece of iron and they probably

32:07

probably not really knowing who she was them easier

32:09

just this woman who's who's got a podcast

32:11

that won an award

32:13

that would have been like probably probably

32:16

the other than that i the start of ninety

32:18

as like the twenty ninth

32:20

in and forty didn't have any other

32:22

she was on the silly did after the last that lo de

32:25

la de la yeah they were in no

32:27

doubt who she was that she's not someone you want to

32:29

talk after when history

32:32

as speeches were next level boys

32:34

really strange because the was the worst some

32:36

things in the studio that he she

32:39

did struggle with which will probably

32:41

hair a little bit less her have you

32:43

, at unseat you know she said

32:45

to may michaeli that is that she's got

32:48

slight dyslexia and house trouble reading

32:50

them and all that kind of stuff put in those moments

32:52

when she could go freestyle she

32:55

was just like said there

32:57

was a mode it with the with the cheeky

32:59

twinkle and there was that i mean business

33:01

and i'm gonna tell you what's happening about

33:03

bowel cancer and about cancer research

33:05

in about cancer from the is funny as

33:07

well because demand when she did the in

33:09

the pandemic she did the edge cases

33:11

stuff yeah same sex and late summer

33:13

staff listen and yeah and i remember get this phone

33:16

call a home phone rang athol was going on

33:18

as here as far as use tokens

33:20

were buys he loved it he looked take the boy

33:22

and you know is another part of the it's good enough

33:25

to pat answer it was another thing

33:27

she was so my education chastity

33:29

really wanted to do in education parkinson's

33:32

as it was one of the things he really was a day by

33:34

member geiger so and i says that stuff is

33:36

all written down and i just

33:38

i get muddled that is a psyche alongside

33:41

oh that's and i'm like yeah that school districts

33:44

i must abide by cbc just might get

33:46

better than says you wanted to get bad as use like i'm

33:48

going to rewrite some of it myself to zero

33:50

the a podcast the during the other lot or linda

33:53

for that called i'm laughing

33:55

skull yeah yeah

33:57

with other way for those school grade school

34:00

wait for the logo that because not freddie dram

34:02

or was she phoned up and second for the just do i

34:05

like a little minute video of of

34:07

him explaining something that he knows about in

34:09

a society , this like minute

34:11

explain why the about d day of a see somebody

34:14

outside and adams had

34:17

sense if that was that if that kind of her

34:20

there wasn't just system the

34:23

education with them must have passion

34:25

for an even faster no

34:28

longer t to after a diagnosis it

34:31

was it was still a must impossible for

34:33

how can you got this remember when they first

34:35

put light when we we started to pour the mates who died

34:37

in nervously like the pocket was opposed fall

34:39

and and and i'd always game via

34:41

it is i've my backgrounds of see that fashion and social

34:43

media of it had a blog before so i

34:46

would be to buy two parties and things like

34:48

instagram or fashion brand that i'm that bit

34:50

deadpool with be like be like get invited

34:52

he says is it just seems the to cancer girl

34:55

so always and mates

34:56

them to i was i am bringing deb umbrian

34:58

dad or night one

35:01

of the things as this made me so happy the

35:03

last couple years of watching has thrive

35:05

in a list of the areas that scene

35:07

has you to bite size education stuff time

35:09

you know my cellular been on the middle of lorraine

35:11

talking about something or other she's do and you

35:13

know

35:15

when it comes with the and in

35:16

i'll be honest

35:18

with ya up and let they had

35:20

the fabulous but it in the star search

35:22

and because i know how much you want to see

35:24

fashion and she never got take you seriously

35:27

and the other thing by of see last

35:29

how many times have we saw of of

35:31

my you some point some point guess

35:33

how olivia is how many times have

35:35

we saw of might and talked about

35:38

why no one doing bow had says the

35:40

only route why

35:42

when i saw the we make sure yeah how many

35:44

times and now they are

35:46

no they're doing and i just feel like i

35:49

spoke about spoke about had her friend people

35:51

had i pits and lucy

35:53

m m campbell who had in the pot and

35:55

we love

35:56

and about this

35:58

the and i might go black

35:59

the modified of january

36:01

so we spoke about her situation

36:03

in john i was why i didn't realize how

36:06

bad it was and then i came back to inaugurated

36:08

a case of basically she was dead and the

36:10

most that i ,

36:12

feel and i'm not religious person i'm a

36:14

spiritual person but the reason why

36:16

she didn't die that days she was not done and

36:18

she was meant to do with the things that she'd call them to do

36:20

she was meant to have this carving out

36:23

with a bond the swan song it was everything she

36:25

does a for her to call him in january would not

36:27

been just or fat she's fought so

36:29

hard for so long and i'm just so

36:31

grateful i'm

36:33

really upset that she had to go see the last six

36:36

much non stop the same really is

36:39

such a the only not been added

36:41

to do everything that she wanted

36:43

to do in a way she wanted to do it but my close

36:45

to to get stuff done and i truly

36:48

feel that the average a reason

36:50

why did with

36:51

live at the start out in there was a reasonably

36:53

to lay dying because of everything is

36:55

gonna today i'd ,

36:57

be a lot of rachel it's lame and aussi

36:59

rachel's races appeared to them

37:01

with of a sort of intense of the time that he needed

37:04

when she was time but it was still but

37:06

i did not determination to get stuff done

37:08

divert to the list as

37:10

it and everything was getting ticked off that list

37:13

or she wasn't that i like everything

37:15

was going to be at everything was gonna be ticked

37:17

off atlanta before she went and i

37:19

dub was assigned guess yeah relationship and

37:21

to the list and the and and wasn't

37:23

gonna that be left on on

37:26

completed it was it was a complete

37:29

honor uncomplete as a bombing

37:30

forget the movies a commitment to force

37:32

which we can speak about cancer

37:35

and yet somebody else has to represent

37:37

us as a campaign and

37:40

almost like peyton pity on us

37:43

i have have is because i have can't said

37:45

doesn't make me intelligent and you

37:47

know i still can speak like for

37:50

myself

37:50

the the my and toward

37:51

the any say doesn't make me intelligence as

37:55

fuck

37:59

one

37:59

scientific always

38:02

, their

38:05

first one of my favorite

38:08

like she's on the run this

38:10

about it was run to the come as a breast

38:12

cancer now comes i will guess wasn't nc

38:15

are we had the poor symposium

38:17

on are end of a of a difference as long as

38:20

he's run said eyes as i just because

38:22

of i've got tons i it does not make me intelligence

38:25

ssssss it

38:28

said that a just how does

38:30

it mean to say that it does not meet you and so

38:34

on him as he did the whole cost of

38:36

see rates were amazing book yeah

38:38

deputies the siren and you know i'm easy

38:41

got someone in the hospital right

38:43

in it so she was signed this couldn't

38:45

and help in was riot in hospital

38:47

indeed came in and came out than

38:49

of is in he or she but it was a with

38:52

a with yeah is amazing the way the seats

38:54

sites it did everything

38:56

everything she says and the one everything

38:59

i'm lauren his nailed by is

39:01

that in the style yes he was

39:03

the i designed everything myself it's

39:06

all me too says everything she

39:08

was just like thriving of the fathers

39:10

had done it said it was just so

39:12

happy when that came out because you

39:14

know that there's that way that those companies

39:16

in those purposes but you know we all know

39:18

what it's like you know you on that you know zip

39:21

big production ice the way they all rallied

39:23

round and i'm like accelerate everything

39:25

was amazing he could see yeah

39:28

that's always what upset me about right susanna

39:30

right never felt to quite saw

39:32

the love seen it sees as sees the low for no

39:34

less and then i'll a more accurate up

39:36

accurate blessing on see the i that i've gotta say oh

39:39

soon ishida been left in no

39:42

doubt it'll what people thought of a and i think

39:45

it is a almost as equally as important

39:47

the family got to say they

39:50

really got to say that whether a lotta sea and

39:52

air got to understand just how important he wasn't

39:55

in the one in proceed made on seventy people it

39:58

was instigated documentaries

39:59

sorry they're they're the trippy

40:02

to say that that that the bbc

40:04

breaths godly and put together which was fantastic

40:06

fantastic now seven a sour cream and that

40:08

this guy and yeah get any campaign

40:10

the you are it was really hard thing to do a

40:12

nameless nominal

40:13

length guy but what was really interesting

40:16

was at , what does a little

40:18

line and that the dead preset about

40:21

how she got to see her kids grow up more

40:23

you know we like is a in looking for those

40:25

solicitous and the air two thousand

40:27

years since the diagnosis and

40:29

it is a really easy say i never thought about

40:31

it before because he was so busy

40:34

a career with as a teacher

40:36

was so busy and she was so i will

40:39

awaken late though that that really

40:41

gave me as a warm feeling is she

40:43

said this on on our pods are think of

40:45

on the puzzle or publicist or find

40:47

some time but he doesn't said that he said said

40:49

the before before circumcision

40:51

things he was a very good mum and and see

40:54

in a very career orientated

40:56

always very busy had lots day was a was

40:58

running on it a million things today

41:02

and it's and it's sad isn't it that

41:04

take something so service like this to meet you

41:07

though realizes cliches about lightning

41:09

so precious a tree bus it

41:11

did with her and and she said the after

41:13

after diagnosis in a c kamal

41:16

much better mum the nicosia

41:19

can the i mean is outfitted reno

41:21

the slow wouldn't overhaul that you couldn't see

41:24

one amazing moment awesome she was

41:26

and and and it , out

41:29

the first i have i'm have realize

41:31

what a little mini me she was will come was

41:33

your ah your photo see fealty

41:36

system and we will get along as

41:38

will calories in front and as will get

41:40

about ten yards fine with have yards ,

41:42

or sinhalese i stopped tokens his eyes

41:44

debra winger

41:46

come on what do you hurry

41:48

up right

41:52

, you're a proper little mini me

41:54

she's telling them i'm off a call in a separate

41:56

that people will you come on call

41:58

, nice media [unk]

41:59

oh my god i love cheeks and hours and i just

42:02

know i think that's lovely preprinted and times

42:04

i mean that would be doing stuff together and i turn off the house

42:07

and the dog be monumental one day and every to

42:09

be sudanese he makes his his baby

42:11

even as you gotta be ready for the had made

42:14

an invoice your mobile events instantly

42:17

and , his videos of during lock

42:19

down where dad's is evidence in connecticut

42:21

said as that this is for laws are of

42:23

we were together and will be given

42:25

his right now i know would

42:28

you call as soon as of other guys

42:30

happy birthday lawrence said

42:32

lawrence guides happy birthday lawrence

42:34

and that size novels birthday

42:36

the

42:39

a don't like the really has a like i

42:41

just love that video

42:42

them three young kids are then

42:44

after a set up to say about see them

42:47

wherever some as you text messages off my

42:50

aunts and them that's

42:52

him of my life he he he

42:54

was worried about how to balance

42:57

in a grieving ammonia and and all the things

42:59

you've got to do while ,

43:01

at us to the kids are said like dhabi is

43:03

i'll be just fine to live a good the great kids

43:05

now look after him him much

43:07

as hill as hill as cast of them

43:09

because i think the see

43:11

the sheila prepared them

43:13

just watched receive bad of us have or else

43:16

are they they they were always were always

43:18

part of l one that i i know people

43:20

that have a cat the kids out of everything

43:23

to do a cancer that that the it was never the

43:25

way with them was i was

43:26

no i think it was widely dot is she

43:28

didn't

43:29

hi like if you to connect the dots

43:31

for them they conduct themselves and

43:33

then mates that i might have in you

43:35

know it's going to into sudden of

43:37

for it makes eighteen lots of

43:39

education they wasn't there it is just

43:41

as as much as educate you ever have or

43:43

else she wanted her kids to grow up

43:46

in know in she

43:48

was

43:49

or how important it was attacked you pay one more

43:52

stuff and to be a be proud of

43:54

proud of that she was doing

43:56

there be fully involved and other

43:59

that video

43:59

i've had dancing with of

44:02

it he got his is a other

44:05

, seen of eight assists beautiful isn't

44:07

it is also an hour much into die and

44:09

business model looks like so i have to do

44:12

do i feel he doesn't actually i just a memory

44:15

we need to do to as

44:17

a full as i'd rather

44:19

than he get his leg and get now why

44:22

should we recount some of our offscreen

44:24

debs favorite moments should

44:28

go around the table with the

44:31

most deaths as well

44:34

as fight with my favorite

44:36

moment

44:36

is it off camber of

44:39

might moment and it isn't even

44:42

a isn't that in that crazy or bunkers rather

44:44

than it's we were m we

44:46

don't the great much to cancer conference

44:48

two or three years ago and we've spoken in front

44:50

of flight i under people have already big

44:53

deal and , think you got

44:55

out with with different laurie sunday after with salary

44:58

and i'm too the

45:00

devil i were a loose and and so we were

45:03

about to my room

45:04

we get a perfect example pajamas

45:06

on and , got really

45:09

bad movies on i remember you say

45:11

we got really watched that yesterday

45:13

film you the beatles one run all

45:15

good movies as sorry

45:17

to those this new this less than is like cells was

45:20

involved in the vikings in heard but instead

45:22

of but state anyway we state we we sat

45:24

there watching it wielded loader in service or

45:26

a couple of other projects are a couple of wine alive

45:29

on the rings her

45:30

a subtler from work

45:34

five o'clock until about midnight one i am

45:36

who i am whatever it was slough

45:38

in in

45:40

i didn't like doing nothing

45:43

the ad in of have

45:45

been considered been considered or on

45:48

the radio something my for all that

45:50

hi what my my life back memories

45:53

after i think of all the crazy things and all the funny

45:56

times and all that it was seventy last

45:58

cemeteries and silly not

45:59

how and what kind of thing

46:04

the that night just i

46:06

just came to make the so it

46:09

was just helping heard quite normal

46:13

our

46:14

the

46:17

okay

46:19

and many wanna

46:22

, know one of disrepair but some early one

46:24

of the things over about was i

46:26

remember the very first award we

46:28

went to pick up

46:29

this for

46:32

lower than those in the

46:35

northern blah blah blah in the middle of manchester i

46:37

was in paris as if it wasn't steve of

46:39

or and i always

46:41

remember a the

46:44

as a sin

46:45

they gave the water

46:47

and i was mandalay looking across

46:49

and looking at a lower and and and and

46:51

deborah as , saved

46:54

up his face and i don't i read your

46:56

face and i don't think she she can't quite

46:58

believe that this is he couldn't believe it honestly

47:00

there was sir alec kind of hair in a wave

47:03

wave a nice of the an aloe his

47:05

mother and then going to as

47:08

taylor sold their dive bar

47:10

type club we are nicer and

47:12

they're dancing the ny away with

47:14

all of us have that that that's a pretty special

47:17

my may also as well

47:19

as so slightly

47:20

funny one

47:22

and often a a bus i just remember

47:24

how i com and which podcast he was also

47:27

see about is is this again

47:30

or governments in florida at the station ways

47:32

that bronx episode i'm voting

47:34

deborah deborah saying i'm an athlete

47:36

awesome as it as i'm going to make it she

47:39

gets her taxi she's on the fly

47:41

over on the way to use in on in

47:43

on on the bit wary of goes up right

47:46

as she calls me because i live

47:48

with that it's off it was stuck in traffic of i'm

47:50

getting out the cab and i was like what were

47:53

ah yes and scares us we're on the

47:55

fly over bit where it will not see by

47:57

currency used to from there and i was

47:59

like what what

47:59

are you going to get out in the middle of traffic

48:02

sousa yes if i doubt now i'll make

48:04

yes and i mean besides that's a good zoos

48:06

tears of producer believe or not but

48:09

it is as the or my head around

48:11

entire yeah i were like herding cats

48:13

and i just remember like saved ever go

48:15

to the phone went dead i was against

48:17

his go into a man is i haven't

48:20

smoked tour guides we made it

48:22

were on the train on what you sit at the us is that

48:24

was is so dead by i am going to make it i'm

48:26

going to gather say

48:28

, i may be that big of a the

48:30

so many but i be couple an

48:33

obviously towards the end and i know where

48:35

the what we have today but but

48:38

deborah's beijing those tapes among known

48:40

her hand side i phoned me up

48:42

and said his face days and

48:44

then to be to on say

48:47

we've got lots as his guy on goods is the

48:49

most a man that was whilst i'm a

48:51

day with we have these conversations

48:53

and then when seat and we were i was driving

48:55

by my father was ill i was driving

48:57

back from death another just come out with wagner

48:59

plymouth i drive around me and

49:03

we spoke from just outside

49:05

plymouth all the way up to gloss to sit

49:07

on a members out as name's into by we as name's

49:10

about sources surface and i'm i'm looking

49:12

at the size the kids that zealots going

49:14

overseas he was in hospital suicide

49:16

in this room on her own and but it wasn't

49:18

with it wasn't forced is why was that

49:20

he won four slices you know i loved about

49:22

those sites as he did

49:24

they were they were hospital

49:26

like you have a high on also

49:29

says she was ill she wasn't

49:31

easy but also raises he wasn't it

49:33

wasn't ready with ready

49:35

yeah

49:36

he had her ,

49:38

even a big big out of it ended

49:40

as i did so because of as you a he's

49:42

a hostile gummi sexy and only are used

49:45

as far as the and so bianco

49:47

probably bad and she does it when she description while

49:49

that thus what was going to say my one

49:52

of the many rusty memories of debs is like

49:54

when lockdown started happening those lockdown

49:57

started are those recordings that she did

49:59

in hospital there was some other best technically

50:03

ninety wise for also for also just it

50:05

was just super storytelling she rarely

50:07

painted a picture but

50:10

when , stroking were out the studio

50:12

we have to record remotely this quite low things

50:14

that can go wrong assists of which is like

50:17

microphone headphones laptop internet

50:19

connection all that kind of stuff that's the way

50:21

that's just now and again she drop in a little

50:23

no good about herself and you be like a

50:25

never knew that that's never come up in conversation

50:28

a spot after after

50:30

don't know seebohm says max blood

50:32

pressure going up make this summer

50:34

has against the wall thinking what was wrong

50:36

with a computer setup she just reveals

50:39

that she was a computer scientists computer

50:42

scientists can't even connect

50:44

to the is that why do i know there is really

50:47

a lot of those filthy was it wasn't even like a

50:49

new thing we had were like two years and recording

50:51

remotely again and we are your it off and

50:53

and i even by the end to the i just don't

50:55

understand why it's not worth it

50:58

is it just did he even had the

51:00

same problem is a we had leads to try

51:02

records like

51:03

forty five minutes maybe but everything and

51:05

i'm it would be about

51:07

three hours and the first two hours of be waiting

51:09

for her to change that the microphone oh yes

51:11

work out why has when she always waited on

51:13

i was charged a phone charge ula

51:16

access reset eraser lawrence

51:18

video is for the of the disease video

51:21

is he grub yeah well that's just keep giving

51:23

it and about him as a hand up

51:25

your city area i like basing

51:27

his he goes to the point where it was to suffered so much

51:29

stuff we were just that chicagoans whole kid

51:32

and have a conversation so she saw the allergy

51:34

for but it wasn't there a toy when you're like

51:37

what was his are lots of charged with on all my

51:39

lots of a my

51:40

then we were like war is a literary says

51:42

settlement for my part i said codes

51:45

you have , hundred

51:47

times could have the same ipod

51:49

her say might might

51:51

that might in said that i've that to

51:54

to so roots i suffer

51:58

from the sun the computer sciences

51:59

you can get it right back in unpaid

52:02

of as he was a computer scientist i says

52:04

no one was given the dame hood for a computer

52:06

science i say on it felt

52:08

, i said he still goes like i've

52:10

got i've got hold off on my file

52:12

not like need three thousand videos

52:15

and pictures of also says paul costs diet

52:17

and i saved it all got it all with as says

52:19

with might throw

52:21

and when

52:23

when she died last week it hit me a while but

52:25

he bought me a lot comes it just goes through and like

52:27

remember screen carbon loads of our dm

52:29

like please mean have like

52:32

honestly

52:32

so crazy things

52:35

like a low memory

52:36

what fight any of them or might earn

52:38

bar

52:40

the me

52:43

the not one no memory some a sea malibu mason

52:46

of them all and i just feel like i'm just really good

52:48

and miss my little she's my who we

52:50

we just look at each other when someone said some then

52:53

or she would pronounce

52:54

that meet long all

52:55

or the , he was something mans

52:58

like i remember okay so this

53:00

is quite funny i for some reason with

53:02

we drunk recently i went

53:04

to drag race show

53:05

pictured with that

53:07

and i'd said on says

53:09

me too often cause such shots that

53:11

deborah gotten a select know you compositions

53:13

i don't speak tirade him that

53:15

a girlfriend sent me a picture of a his brother

53:18

was a stray or

53:20

not you have like zeiss dead to a t

53:22

as i as know m says no is

53:24

a i'll get my coat sermons

53:26

the yeah i just think how

53:29

about you live music as warlock the celebs the music

53:31

ever saying have a clue as to avoid

53:33

snow on my phone am

53:36

of

53:37

you do not doubt lip sync with major a lockdown

53:40

and citizens do we found love

53:42

with his that was awesome it was awesome after the army

53:44

is at night

53:46

we just love s a nothing now actually

53:48

looking back never really thought about the lyrics and actually

53:50

live in houses placing savvy asked am

53:53

as he did

53:54

that cm first

53:56

i misread oh cause i'm just give with lyrics is

53:59

not only home is play

54:01

of hope this place as i say yes

54:03

if it's successful may and

54:06

then i had any should ever watch any of my look

54:08

don't let things because i'm he actually did it

54:10

loses a phase is what do i do like

54:13

the think that she probably likes

54:15

things about three lyrics and insisted that his around

54:17

in his

54:18

said i had dress and see clean clothing

54:21

all he mean i would have this

54:23

whole texas cause him beforehand about what we

54:25

were gonna use as a microphone

54:28

and i don't if you guys remember us at

54:30

, beforehand deborah got me

54:33

me lovely present it was vague and

54:36

rubber and glittery and this

54:38

mates to give to and

54:41

so she said why don't you use the and all use

54:43

this inside me picture of them in the skills

54:45

or has to receive pleasure and

54:48

she said everything's moment where she

54:50

i decided once used for a might yeah i am

54:53

as you walked outside of in for server has

54:55

from his in the garden on a garden cool and

54:57

she was moved out in a civil justice

55:00

equal got hold justice a vibrator hold

55:03

, the yeah

55:05

i'm under says

55:06

that is there was

55:09

i know i think the made i just

55:12

feel a smart

55:13

they friends and

55:15

that's good too many memories and i'm just

55:17

about you got underside absolutely devastated

55:19

that blue as you make him anymore so

55:21

is the last

55:22

the lesson a lack of of

55:25

just don't believe the so many bit

55:27

switch with as it's start with the podcast because

55:30

and allow the time it would be

55:33

howard by when , was on

55:35

steroids and she just go off on one

55:37

and then just finished with a fight something

55:40

reasonably inappropriate and then just dot less

55:42

than a says it's

55:44

just the most gorgeous last

55:46

the he had swung

55:48

and some of the steroid a d slight

55:50

text messages thirty wake of a more than by

55:53

seven o'clock them all available go off and this be

55:55

a hundred and fifty six messages lot

55:57

of i was up at up loss agree

55:59

that ideas and thoughts in light

56:02

of for their rumblings in the middle a knife unless

56:04

you know from have , away for steroids

56:06

and think

56:09

then of that's what i think that's okay mistress

56:12

the randomness of are unpopular fun

56:14

or five and i think i'd the it does impose sesame

56:16

yet that that isn't good a be a stream

56:18

of consciousness

56:19

i'm in a me be see what's upgrade

56:21

order i'm gonna take a bikini picks

56:23

you never slept all blacks and she's not going to message

56:25

you know hatch

56:27

life is so does the fact is that

56:29

was a i'm not dissing the of time it's time

56:32

to get my head around

56:32

the no more stuff isn't that yes the mesa

56:35

like i said is like i'm so proud

56:37

of the dame i mean or of her

56:39

sorry i missed the deviants as the make

56:41

stuff is it yeah stuff the

56:44

i feel really genuinely like lucky

56:47

to have had yes because their

56:49

authority beliefs and

56:51

you know who know

56:53

not with no criticism but no night

56:55

when she died all the blue takes cabal i

56:57

owe their or out i view wonderful

56:59

your this that up

57:00

they probably never your matter yeah and either

57:03

we were lucky enough yeah they're lucky

57:05

enough to nowhere and to hover as our best

57:07

available in one of our best mates

57:09

or to go through all the

57:11

good bits illness or the crappy

57:13

bits and all their him

57:16

that's in between as well and and have have

57:19

have so many last

57:22

and and and so many tears

57:25

them

57:27

the dancers and as a lot of dental

57:29

the lot of dance in those a lot of

57:31

cry at a lot of a lot of prosecco

57:34

a lot everything else

57:36

the the after

57:40

he are the areas when when she had a broken

57:42

footman and she hobbled up on stage

57:44

and in , could barely make and about

57:46

three hours later of of

57:49

lousy i try to down our throats

57:51

and the closest approach is

57:53

it encroaches on the some effect on the size

57:56

this on the about fifteen

57:58

tequila she's a new she's often

57:59

why she was

58:02

bonkers

58:05

and wonderful already under that

58:07

single possibly were opposed to widen we

58:09

should say that for all that

58:11

for all that

58:13

the bunker this as well

58:15

i think about him a people she helped

58:17

i'm i'm gonna carry on helping inner

58:20

people a lot people again they

58:22

props any got to nevertheless so severe i

58:24

waited for five years

58:26

he's been doing this ship and helping people helping here

58:28

ever since the moment the was diagnosed with

58:31

are people that

58:32

there have been divers because they know

58:34

the symptoms are better because it had it had seen

58:37

on tv or whether they

58:39

on a drug because

58:41

she put herself on a nice

58:44

hello wouldn't take no for an answer it

58:46

is kind of stuff today was with

58:49

every week she would do this once again that

58:51

every week and week and and so many people

58:53

that are alive not indirectly

58:55

it up possibly deposit that

58:57

directly because of that really directly

59:00

because of said that the us

59:02

does amazing legacy and that can and

59:04

also as well as a list of it's i

59:06

saw say it's she

59:09

got so much from every

59:11

single person that listen to this podcast

59:14

the watched her instagram videos

59:17

that sending messages like

59:19

see games she gave out see

59:21

on the hog gold and eyes and steve

59:23

is nailed it

59:25

he would help anybody that by he

59:27

ran to opposite that's a plus one is a just

59:29

give him my number that's why she said thoughts

59:32

on numerous occasions to me and

59:35

, she got so much back from

59:38

people that were in terms of this podcast

59:40

is the messages the people that come

59:42

up to earth salah how much does he

59:44

got from this is his podcast and

59:47

you know basically if you listen to this

59:49

you have you gave her so much strength and

59:52

i think is really important say that

59:54

yeah thank you for that because

59:58

you know

59:59

dead

59:59

much as she came across as both

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