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I imagine being one of the helicopter pilots
0:03
just hovering above George Michael. Like, are
0:05
they hoping that they're going to get
0:07
another Bronco chase out of this? Right?
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Like, is this why I went to helicopter school? Welcome
0:15
to You're Wrong About. I'm
0:28
Sarah Marshall, and today we are
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talking about George Michael, part
0:33
two of our two-part extravaganza
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with our friend Marcus McCann.
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Marcus is the author of Park Cruising, What
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Happens When We Wander Off the Path. I
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had such a lovely time making these episodes with
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him, and I'm so excited to get to share
0:49
them with you. We talked
0:51
for a really long time when we made
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both of these episodes. Some of you
0:55
might know we released an extended cut of part one
0:58
over on Apple Plus and Patreon, and
1:01
we're doing the same thing with part
1:03
two because we just had so much to
1:05
talk about. So if you're curious, if you
1:07
want to hear more of the context for
1:09
the discussion or the little cul-de-sacs that I
1:11
love to get into on the show, you
1:14
can hear that on Patreon or
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Apple Plus. And we
1:18
also have part three of
1:21
our four-part series on Britney
1:23
Spears' memoir, The Woman and
1:25
Me, over there. I
1:28
recorded this four-part series with Eve Lindley.
1:30
It has been, again, such a joy.
1:32
I love to be in a multi-part
1:34
pop star saga, and right now we
1:37
are doing two of them. So it's
1:39
a thrill. In part three,
1:41
we were talking about the era of
1:43
Britney's marriage to Kevin Federline, and
1:46
we have a lot to say about it in
1:48
that time in her life. But I will just
1:50
tell you that I think Eve puts it best
1:52
when she says, she's everything
1:55
and he's just Kevin. That's
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it for me. Thank you so much
2:01
for joining us. Happy
2:03
Taurus season. Happy
2:05
Barely Over Aries season. Happy
2:08
practically here summertime. I
2:11
can't believe it. Listen
2:13
to some pop music. Listen to this
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episode. Thank you again. Welcome
2:22
to You're Wrong About. I'm Sarah Marshall
2:24
and today we are doing part two
2:26
of the story
2:28
of George Michael with our guest
2:30
Marcus McCann. If you haven't listened
2:32
to part one, well actually Marcus, what
2:34
do you think? Should a person just
2:37
jump in the middle like this? I think
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it's probably best to start at the beginning, yeah. I
2:42
mean, listen, and I don't, if you don't
2:44
like being told what to do, I don't
2:48
know what to do. We've
2:50
got some pretty good cameos in the first half. We've
2:53
got Freddie Mercury's got a cameo.
2:56
We got lots of folks, right? Elton
2:58
John was in there. Liza Minelli showed
3:01
up. She sure did. She sure
3:03
did. If that's not a reason to rewind and
3:05
go back to the last episode, I don't know what is. Yeah,
3:08
Liza Minelli showed up in multiple
3:10
ways. Where are
3:12
we coming into the story in the
3:14
second half? We left George
3:16
Michael at a grave site
3:19
in Brazil in 1993. I
3:23
feel like before we really get into the second
3:25
half, we should talk about cruising. It's
3:28
going to be an important part of his story, and
3:30
it's going to be something that's going to follow him
3:32
around a lot in the second half. So
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Sarah, what do you know about cruising? Oh,
3:38
boy. Well, I
3:40
know what I learned from the movie, Cruising, which
3:42
I feel like was inaccurate, which
3:45
is a movie that was famously homophobic,
3:47
even in its time, its time being
3:49
1980, which is
3:52
about Al Pacino learning that there's
3:54
a leather bar murderer. And
3:57
so he asked to go undercover cruising as a...
4:00
gay man having public sex.
4:02
My understanding is that it's just like soliciting
4:06
people for public or maybe not even public sex
4:08
in the gay community. I honestly just think of
4:10
it as like, I'm going out tonight
4:12
and I'm going to have some sex. Yeah,
4:15
I think that's a good way of thinking about it.
4:17
I would say like at its most basic, it's just
4:19
a way of making yourself open
4:21
to meeting people. Wow. Well, that
4:23
really answers the question of our modern times,
4:26
which is how do adults meet each other?
4:28
So it's like really just a set of
4:30
nonverbal cues. For example, like looking,
4:32
looking away and then looking back at someone or
4:35
posture or like that kind of like
4:37
strategic tug on your clothing as
4:40
a way of indicating interest. Nice.
4:43
So predominantly men
4:46
will go to places that have a reputation
4:48
for cruising and they'll just hang out there
4:50
and it can be a park or a
4:52
street corner or a bathroom. Did
4:54
you know that when straight men approach
4:57
women for sexual
4:59
reasons, they have no signs of
5:01
interest or indications that they look
5:03
for because unless you're running away
5:05
or hitting them, they're like, this
5:07
is going great. That's
5:09
the thing that sets cruising apart from
5:12
other kinds of is this like circuit
5:14
of mutual interest or you
5:16
noticing them, them noticing you, you
5:19
noticing them noticing you, that situation.
5:22
Right. So there's an idea that cruising is
5:24
something that only queer people do. And it's
5:26
not true. Anyone can cruise, especially
5:28
in cafe culture or in bar
5:30
culture. Yeah. Going out in
5:32
public and expressing interest in men, my fear
5:35
is like, if I look interested in you
5:37
one time, you're never going to leave me
5:39
alone. If we go home together,
5:41
you might be unable to have sex with
5:43
me and then kill me like in looking
5:45
for Mr. Goodbar. And
5:48
if things go well, I might
5:50
accidentally have a relationship with you and
5:52
then get married and I'm afraid of that also.
5:54
My life is really ruled by fear is what
5:56
we're learning here. Sorry to drag this into George
5:59
Michael, but. This is so
6:01
basic. This is such a low
6:03
bar to say one of the
6:05
benefits of cruising is that it
6:07
teaches participants to think about and
6:09
value the signs of another person's
6:11
sexual interest as a precondition to
6:13
a sexual encounter. Like right, that's
6:15
a low bar, but here we
6:17
are, right? It is. But here
6:19
it's a low bar, but here we are. It's
6:21
a folk song if anyone wants to write it.
6:23
And that also leads us back to cruising the
6:26
Al Pacino movie where the
6:28
argument I think the movie makes implicitly is
6:32
that, and this is my read
6:34
of it, Al Pacino gets deeper and deeper
6:36
into the undercover life. Oh my God,
6:38
he's gay. Oh my God, he's
6:40
also a murderer. And there's
6:42
just this thing kind of like in basic instinct where
6:45
it's like, you know, gay, murderer, they kind of go
6:47
together. You can't do one without the other. And you're
6:49
like, what? I feel
6:51
like there is some kind of idea deep down
6:53
of like sex is really between a man and
6:56
an object. And if you have two like autonomous
6:58
willing participants, then like, that's the
7:00
thing we're scared of. And that's the thing we're
7:02
equating with violence in that narrative. Right.
7:05
Cruising comes out in 1980. While it's
7:07
being filmed, gay people are protesting, they're
7:09
disrupting the shoot. They like, for
7:12
example, we'll find out that they're
7:14
shooting in a particular apartment building and
7:16
they'll like go to the next department
7:18
over and play loud music so that
7:20
they can't shoot that day. Great. Oh,
7:23
a hundred percent. We assume that cruising is
7:25
just kind of this like two
7:27
macho guys pushing each other up against
7:29
a wall kind of thing like, like
7:31
it's portrayed in the movie Cruising when
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the reality is kind of the
7:36
opposite. So like, for example, Samuel Delaney in
7:39
his book Times Square Red Times Square Blue,
7:41
which is about the history of
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cruising in porn theaters in New York, especially
7:46
in the 70s. He
7:48
would just he would describe it as like he'd
7:50
be sitting in a row in the cinema
7:55
and someone would come and sit at
7:57
the end of the row and they'd like look over
8:00
And if they were making eyes at each other, then the
8:02
guy would move over so he's two seats away, and
8:05
then one seat away. And then
8:07
they were sitting next to each other and a hand would
8:09
sort of graze the other
8:11
person's knee. It feels almost Victorian,
8:13
right? In the how shy sounding
8:16
that ritual would be as
8:20
opposed to this kind of, I'm
8:23
going to, I'm doing this because I'm going to get
8:25
my rocks off kind of thing. Right,
8:27
in the sense of like gradually
8:30
easing a car forward, being
8:32
kind of idling in a position where either
8:34
party can put the brakes on.
8:36
Yeah, where either party can
8:38
put the brakes on, right? So I
8:40
think that's an important part of the
8:43
kind of stop and start rhythm of cruising
8:45
is that. And it's
8:48
also, I think, set up to avoid confrontation,
8:52
accidental confrontation with
8:54
non-participants. You're giving people
8:56
lots of outs. The places
8:58
where it takes place tends to be in
9:01
the kind of fringes on the
9:03
periphery of social situations, in
9:06
a kind of disused corner of a park or
9:09
late at night or behind the
9:11
bushes, somewhere that's not. Is
9:13
this something that has been a
9:15
cause of alarmist straight rhetoric for
9:17
a really long time? Was there
9:19
a moment when this emerged as
9:23
something people enjoyed freaking out about? What's
9:25
the history there? Cruising
9:28
is a very old practice. Like, for
9:30
example, we have evidence of it in
9:32
15th century Florence and in
9:35
18th century London. And
9:37
like Walt Whitman was cruising in 19th
9:39
century New York. So it's
9:41
something that has quite a long history.
9:44
And most of our records of it come
9:46
from police interactions or
9:48
other moments where there's a kind
9:50
of like social freak out. These
9:52
are encounters that are fleeting and
9:54
brief and kind of leave
9:57
no trace otherwise. As for
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George, He would later say
10:01
that he first started cruising in London
10:03
while he was still a teenager. For
10:06
example, he like to sunbathe like
10:09
later in his life at Will Rogers Park, which
10:11
is in West Hollywood. And
10:13
if he got cruised there in the park,
10:15
he would go with the guy either to
10:17
the bathroom or take the guy
10:19
to his car or like go home with him
10:21
basically. He would also later
10:23
say that he'd been picking up guys in gay
10:26
bars since before the Wham days
10:29
and continued to do so while he's living
10:31
in LA. And I would
10:33
also say like I'm not here to
10:35
proselytize about park cruising. Some
10:37
people do it. Other people, it would be
10:39
too uncomfortable. They don't want to. That's OK. Right. I
10:42
think that it's part of the big
10:45
tapestry of benign sexual human variation that
10:47
we were talking about at the beginning
10:49
of the last episode. Right. And I'm
10:51
sure that certainly in the 90s, by
10:53
which point we had perfected this, people
10:56
were making the think of the children argument
10:59
here. Yeah. So I mean,
11:01
the police across the United States
11:03
and in Canada and Western Europe too
11:05
take a periodic interest in park cruising.
11:08
And the crackdowns are often very often
11:11
framed as we're concerned about
11:13
the unsuspecting innocent,
11:16
usually framed as a child, but not always. It's
11:18
a good band name. In
11:20
St. John's, Newfoundland, there was this cruising
11:23
thing that happened where they put video
11:26
cameras in the men's bathroom,
11:28
which is that's just gross to start with. And
11:30
the video cameras captured lots of
11:32
men engaged in sexual activities in
11:34
this in this bathroom in the village
11:37
mall in St. John's, Newfoundland. But
11:40
what they found was any time the door clicked
11:42
open, everyone would pull apart. And
11:45
so the like the Canadian criminal
11:47
law around this requires
11:49
an offended non participant. And
11:53
when it goes up on appeal, the court says
11:55
there's no offended non participant because they're pulling apart
11:58
every time. say
12:00
from a men's ray point of
12:02
view that they're demonstrating an intent
12:04
not to be seen by pulling
12:06
apart when the door opens. This
12:11
is great. I feel like we're having a legally-blund I
12:14
would that we were. That would be amazing. Also,
12:17
anyone who can manage public sex in that
12:20
harsh of a climate, you
12:22
know, definitely deserves it. Yeah. George himself is
12:24
going to say later, I
12:28
definitely think that the kind of sex that I'm
12:30
having is worth getting in the newspapers for. Oh,
12:33
George. God.
12:39
But yeah, okay. So, so coming back
12:41
to where George is. After
12:43
the death of Anselmo, he returns
12:45
to London. He's very bitter about
12:48
the weak sales of his album
12:50
Listen Without Prejudice. He
12:53
blames the record company and he says
12:55
that's what he wants out of his
12:57
record contract. It's the contract
12:59
that he first signed when he's 18.
13:01
It's been renegotiated a couple of times.
13:03
He signed this contract initially
13:05
for 500 pounds in 1982 and he's now a
13:11
global superstar who's committed to
13:13
10 albums under the Sony
13:15
imprint. And like, is it
13:17
fair to blame Sony for the weak sales
13:19
of Listen Without Prejudice? I don't know that
13:22
objectively they were weak sales. It's
13:24
not the same level as Faith, but
13:27
as we were talking about in the last episode,
13:30
it probably would have been impossible to
13:32
match what happened with Faith. Faith
13:34
was just such a cultural moment. And
13:36
then also, okay, George, like
13:38
you got a part to play in this, which
13:40
is like, he's refusing to do
13:43
interviews and he won't put his face on
13:45
the record and he like won't appear in
13:47
the music videos. My analysis
13:49
is that this is somewhat
13:51
charmingly petty and stupid behavior by someone
13:53
who's like 30 years old, but who
13:55
has had as many career phases as
13:58
if they were 55. And
14:00
I wonder if there's just like
14:02
also an element of exhaustion here.
14:05
Totally. I think that's right. I also,
14:07
you know, like the idea that we
14:10
should support the artist in
14:12
their disputes against the record label
14:15
is something that now from from
14:18
2024 we can see, for example
14:20
with Taylor Swift rerecording her albums,
14:23
or Beyonce releasing the title
14:25
platform, whatever, right? Now
14:28
we say that's like just good business
14:30
sense. If a musician isn't
14:32
in control of their career
14:35
progression, then I think
14:38
we would recognize now that that is potentially a
14:40
problem. There was not that
14:42
sense in 1993, and George is going
14:45
to alienate a lot of fans by doing
14:47
this. Huh. Yeah, because it's
14:49
so interesting to get back to that. But
14:51
yeah, I feel like there was in a
14:54
general way more mainstream trust
14:56
of establishments in the 90s. Yeah,
14:59
right. Like when baseball players go
15:01
on strike, the common
15:04
refrain is that it's millionaires fighting
15:06
billionaires. And so like all
15:08
none of us have any skin in the game. We
15:11
remove from the equation, the kind
15:13
of like alienation of labor, or
15:15
the fact that the workers should
15:17
be in control of the end
15:19
product. And because
15:22
some, you know, and it's a minority,
15:26
some musicians and some
15:28
athletes make good money, it
15:30
means that we, you know, we can abdicate responsibility
15:32
or we don't have to care. We can tell
15:34
them shut up and get back in the studio.
15:37
These power dynamics, I think that exists
15:40
throughout human behavior, they're all
15:42
kind of fractals of each other. So
15:44
if an artist is being mistreated by
15:46
their record label, it's not the
15:48
greatest injustice in the world, but
15:50
the same dynamic continues, you know,
15:52
down the line because it's,
15:54
you know, kind of showing how capitalism
15:57
as we know it today is about what you can
15:59
get away with. I mean, that really happened
16:02
with Jive and with the record
16:04
label that most boy
16:06
bands had in the late 90s, which
16:08
was absolutely bleeding them dry. Right. The
16:11
deals got worse and worse from
16:13
the 70s to the 2000s, where even now, more of the kind
16:19
of expenses that come
16:21
with producing a record are expected to
16:23
be borne by the musician rather than
16:25
the record label. Right,
16:28
which is absolutely ridiculous because it's like who
16:30
has more resources, the capital records
16:34
or this 20-year-old from Eau Claire?
16:36
Well, that's just it, right? And
16:39
so that's what's being tested in this
16:41
trial. In 1993,
16:44
when the case begins, George
16:47
shows up. He's going to testify
16:49
at this hearing. And
16:51
I got to tell you, he is such a smoke
16:53
show. He's dressed in
16:55
a black suit, black shirt. He's
16:58
got the high shoulder pads, black
17:00
sunglasses. His hair
17:02
perfectly coiffed. He looks like
17:04
he stepped out of an Armani
17:06
ad in 1990. So
17:09
he's serving trial. Yes,
17:12
serving trial, I realize. One
17:14
other piece of background information that I think
17:16
is relevant here is that in the disclosure
17:18
as they're preparing for trial, it's
17:20
revealed that the Sony executives in
17:22
the United States have
17:25
been referring to George
17:27
Michael when they're talking to George
17:29
Michael's agent. They've been
17:31
referring to George as that F-bomb
17:34
client of yours. So
17:36
George knows that at the time of the trial, he
17:38
can't say that that's why he doesn't have trust
17:41
in Sony or the
17:43
Sony executives because it
17:45
would involve drawing unwanted attention to
17:48
something. But you've got to think
17:50
that that's their operating as well
17:52
as everything else. Oh, God,
17:54
yeah. I mean, it reminds me of the
17:57
way Judy Garland was treated by whatever
17:59
studio. or she worked for as a
18:02
teenager where it's like they wanted her to
18:04
be so different, you know, she needed to
18:06
lose weight, she needed to like take all
18:08
this speed, obviously. And not
18:11
that she was alone in this, but just that they
18:13
were so invested in like whittling her
18:16
away into something different from what she
18:18
was. I remember watching this as a
18:20
fairly naive teenager and being like, well, God,
18:22
if they don't like her, then like they
18:25
shouldn't hire her. Of course, what I
18:27
was missing is that like, no, they they want to make money
18:29
and they want to and they want
18:31
to whittle her into the best version to
18:33
make money with according to them. But just
18:35
it's depressing kind of comparing your dreams of
18:37
Sartem as a child with the reality that
18:40
you may find yourself working for a label
18:43
that openly disrespects you or even
18:45
hates you, but is using
18:47
you as an asset because you're like a
18:49
forest they're logging. Yeah, exactly. Will
18:52
not let go of you but also does not want to
18:55
respect you. And also is like 10 albums.
18:58
There are artists who have an
19:00
entire quite long career and never
19:02
record 10 albums. Right. And like
19:04
this man has been massively successful
19:06
with Wham, two albums,
19:09
and as George Michael, the
19:11
solo artist, two albums. So
19:14
he's still got a long way to go. So
19:16
also the trial takes six months goes on
19:18
and on and on. George
19:21
is going to end in the end spend three
19:23
to four million pounds on this litigation. And
19:27
at the end of it, he loses. There's an
19:29
appeal. But eventually the parties
19:31
agree not to pursue the appeal and
19:33
in exchange, Sony's going to
19:35
sell the contract to
19:38
this new label Dreamworks
19:41
for $40 million. The
19:44
idea being that even if the contract
19:46
is valid, the relationship is too damaged
19:48
to continue. And so in 1995, he
19:51
releases his first studio
19:53
album in five years. It's an
19:55
album called older. And I
19:57
will say that like five years is a long time
19:59
in the music. industry. Like that's several
20:02
cycles of cool even in the 90s.
20:04
I mean when you think about the
20:06
early 90s versus the late 90s, yeah
20:08
we were starting to move very quickly.
20:10
We had gone from like Paul
20:12
Reiser to Christina Aguilera. That's a weird
20:14
comparison. I'm sticking with it though. I'm
20:17
sticking. Maybe this is it. There's
20:19
a recognition that you need to really cash in while
20:21
somebody is at the height of their fame and
20:23
so it leads to this kind of like manic
20:26
version of their fame that burns
20:28
really bright and really quickly.
20:31
And I'm sure too because of the
20:33
sense of abundance and the record companies that
20:36
because you have so much money maybe it seems
20:39
easier to just get a new star than to
20:41
continue putting money into someone who's you know did
20:43
something two years ago. I think that's absolutely true
20:45
and that's what's happening here and it sort of
20:48
makes the decision to punish
20:50
George Michael in this way a little
20:53
bit difficult to process
20:55
from the perspective of
20:57
that model. But I also think it's like
21:00
I want to show like
21:02
I, Sony, want to show
21:04
every artist that if you
21:06
mess with this behemoth
21:09
we are going to destroy you. Wow
21:12
okay yeah so he's like the head
21:14
on a spike. Sony must have realized
21:16
at some level in like a kind
21:18
of cost-benefit analysis that like even if
21:20
Sony is able to keep him as
21:22
an artist that if George wants out
21:25
he's not going to produce the kind
21:27
of product for you
21:30
that you need in order to be able to
21:32
to sell it and make a
21:34
ton of money. Mary's gonna do one of those Neil
21:36
Young albums. Yeah right right
21:39
like the sort of classic to
21:41
get out of a contract people will very rapidly
21:43
do a compilation album
21:46
and a Christmas album. I
21:48
wonder how many Christmas albums that's the
21:50
reason for it. I think I
21:52
honestly like a lot of these deals
21:54
are five five album deals and if
21:56
you count that fifth album is often
21:59
just garbage. And
22:02
like, I won't say that about older. So older, he
22:04
pours his heart into it, it
22:06
is not going to be received very
22:08
well. The first single that they release
22:11
off of it is Jesus to a
22:13
Child, which is another very slow, dirgy
22:15
ballad. It's about Anselmo.
22:18
He also releases a song called Fast
22:20
Love, which is about the pleasures of
22:22
fleeting sexual connection, fast love meaning casual
22:25
sex. And both of
22:27
these songs are going to be number one hits
22:29
in the UK and barely break the top 10
22:31
in the US. In the end, older is only
22:34
going to sell about 700,000
22:37
copies in the US in the first six months. And
22:40
it's considered a massive disappointment.
22:42
Now, I mean, look, for a lot of artists, if
22:44
you sold 700,000 records, that would be a huge
22:47
smash for you, you'd be you'd be so happy.
22:50
But for someone who is selling 15 million records
22:52
before this, and also for whom
22:55
the there had been so much
22:58
invested, if I could put it that way,
23:00
it is it's just it's considered a failure,
23:02
essentially. And it's
23:04
the only record he does for Dreamworks. As
23:06
a result of it, he gets released from the contract. Oh,
23:09
nice. How does he feel about all that? It
23:12
gives him a sense of independence with the records
23:14
that he's going to release following that that and
23:17
what he'll do is
23:19
one album deals from from then on.
23:21
And in fact, he's going to end
23:23
up back with Sony making records on
23:25
these one album deals. But it's
23:28
like he's he's more of a contractor. At that
23:30
point, Totally. He can negotiate the
23:33
terms for each album as he's preparing it
23:35
as he sort of done his little vision
23:37
board for what this album is going to
23:39
be. I should
23:41
also say during this period, his reputation
23:44
as a philanthropist is continuing. So he's
23:46
giving for example, to Project Angel Food,
23:49
which is delivering meals to HIV positive
23:51
people in June 1996, he
23:53
meets Kenny Goss. Kenny Goss is
23:55
going to become his campaign his
23:57
like longest term partner in his life.
24:01
They're going to have a very grown
24:03
up and adult relationship. They meet at
24:05
Beverly Hot Springs, which is a day
24:08
spa in Koreatown in LA. I don't
24:10
know if it's sex on premises. His
24:13
biographer James Gavin describes it as
24:16
ostensibly straight, but
24:18
with a substantial gay clientele. And
24:20
also that it was known for attracting celebrities
24:23
and people who wanted to get with celebrities.
24:25
You just never know where you're going to
24:27
meet a celebrity. 100%,
24:30
right? Kenny is, he's
24:32
like a Texas small business owner.
24:35
Like Anselmo, he's a little bit older
24:37
than George. There's a five year age
24:39
difference. And by the following
24:41
summer, they move in together. There
24:43
are actually not a ton of photos of
24:46
the two of them together, but they do
24:48
appear. They actually appear in public regularly
24:50
through the 90s and early 2000s as a couple, as
24:52
demonstrably as
24:56
a gay couple. I know that for
24:58
a lot of gay activists in the 80s and
25:01
90s and, you know, AIDS activists during that
25:03
time, they really would have
25:05
preferred to see George Michael come out in the
25:07
early 1980s and be an
25:09
out and proud gay man at that time.
25:11
It didn't feel to George like it was
25:14
available to him. And so when he
25:16
gets the second act and he can be a little
25:18
bit more outspoken, he craps it
25:20
and runs with it. Anyway,
25:22
the two of them exchange rings, but they're
25:24
never going to get married. Of course, in
25:27
1997, they couldn't get married. But
25:29
by all accounts, it's a healthy, supportive,
25:31
loving relationship. According to
25:34
George, the relationship is never monogamous,
25:36
but it is honest. Kenny
25:39
and George have sex together and
25:41
also apart with other men. This
25:44
is fairly common among gay
25:46
couples. For example, there's one study
25:48
in San Francisco where half
25:51
the participants in a long
25:53
term same sex
25:55
relationship were non-monogamous. I
25:58
was just going to give George a little George
26:00
quote here, he said, anyone
26:03
who didn't like it could stick it up
26:05
there expletive. It's
26:08
time that we accepted gay men for what
26:10
they are as opposed to the tea
26:13
and biscuit version. Ah,
26:16
yeah. I mean, I also
26:19
feel like monogamy as a social
26:22
value is very deeply rooted in
26:25
the patriarchy. And there's
26:28
this great, completely bonkers Samuel Johnson
26:30
quote about how, you know,
26:32
if you steal a man's pig, you know, that
26:34
sucks. But if a woman is unfaithful, then she'll
26:36
corrupt a man's entire hereditary line
26:39
and steal everything from
26:41
him. And like the idea of
26:43
monogamy as a virtue is very,
26:45
you know, inevitably rooted in the idea of
26:48
marriage as a transfer of capital and
26:51
a way to merge and protect
26:53
assets. The lack of historic
26:55
neutrality about that is interesting because it
26:57
seems like the more reasonable
26:59
way to look at it is that monogamy works
27:01
for some people and non
27:04
monogamy works for some people. And
27:07
it's just like anything else. Right. And or it
27:09
could work for some fruit for a person for
27:11
one period of their life and might not work
27:13
for them at a different period in their life.
27:16
Right. Yeah. In a way, that's the George Michael
27:18
story. Right. In in
27:20
1984, he's singing I Don't Want
27:22
Your Freedom, Part-Time Love Will Just Bring Me
27:24
Down. And then in the
27:26
video for I Want Your Sex, he's writing Explore
27:29
Monogamy. And by the
27:31
time we get to the older album, he's
27:33
singing more openly about the pleasures of these
27:35
kinds of fleeting encounters. Yeah.
27:37
Yeah. It feels like forbidden
27:39
knowledge, but very, very true
27:42
and very reassuringly true that people are
27:44
different from each other. To quote Eve
27:46
Segwick and also that people
27:48
are different from themselves. You know,
27:50
like we will want different things
27:53
at different times in our lives, in
27:55
our relationships and sexually as well as every
27:57
other way. And that's great. Like, I
27:59
think. It's very exciting. That
28:02
year, the same year that Kenny moves in
28:04
with him, George's mother dies
28:07
after a short battle with cancer.
28:10
George will remember the deaths of
28:12
Anselmo and Leslie as really defining
28:15
this period, and
28:17
will later report that he
28:19
was depressed, sad, grieving, not
28:23
producing new work. He's also smoking a
28:25
lot of weed, like you do. Especially
28:28
in times of grief. This is also the same
28:30
year that Princess Diana dies, 1997. George
28:34
and Diana were friends, but
28:36
they weren't super close. George
28:39
actually will later say that Diana had
28:41
reached out to him and tried to
28:43
be more of an active friend, and
28:46
George hadn't fully reciprocated, and
28:49
that he regretted it. He will
28:51
say, I didn't realize how isolated
28:54
and lonely she was. And
28:56
they were about the same age, right? Yeah,
28:59
absolutely, yeah. And
29:01
how far back did they know each other? Oh,
29:04
like from the Wham days. And Diana
29:07
is doing early AIDS activism in
29:09
the 80s, right? They actually looked
29:11
pretty similar to each other. Same feathered,
29:13
blonde haircut, is that what you mean?
29:16
Yes, absolutely. Same beautiful jaw, yeah. Apparently,
29:19
she quite fancied him from
29:22
seeing him on TV in 1984. That's
29:25
the beginning of their relationship. Okay,
29:27
so that's 1997. And
29:29
then the next time that George is in the news
29:32
is when he's caught in
29:34
the public park in Los Angeles. On
29:38
April 7th, 1998, George and Kenny are having
29:41
lunch together at
29:43
a restaurant in Los Angeles. George has
29:46
a couple of glasses of wine, which is
29:48
not unusual for him. It
29:50
seems like it's a nice, quiet lunch. There's not
29:52
like a big fight. There's no altercation. But
29:54
afterwards, the pair go their separate ways for the
29:57
afternoon. At about 4 p.m., George and Kenny
29:59
are having a lunch. arrives at Will Rogers
30:01
Park. He's wearing casual
30:03
clothes, baseball cap, t-shirt,
30:06
sweatpants, and he's
30:09
hanging out there when he catches the eye of what
30:12
he will later describe as a six
30:14
foot two hunk. The accounts vary
30:16
a bit, but they agree
30:18
on the key points. They made eyes at each other in
30:21
the park, and then they
30:24
go into this public bathroom together. It's
30:26
like park bathroom. It sounds like George
30:29
goes over to the urinal and
30:31
the other guy goes into a stall, and
30:34
he leaves the stall door open as
30:36
a kind of invitation. George
30:38
says that when he looked over, the
30:41
guy is jerking off in the stall, and
30:44
he goes over and he joins him. He
30:47
enters the stall together. So it's a
30:49
nice, nice stall. Yes,
30:51
that's right. In the other guy's account,
30:54
George is in the stall and he pulls
30:56
down his own sweatpants and begins to jerk
30:59
himself off in the stall, and the guy
31:01
leaves. There is later some sensationalistic reporting that
31:03
there were other people or even children in
31:06
the bathroom. There's nothing to support that at
31:08
all. It's just these two guys. And
31:11
so I think it's worth thinking about, like how
31:13
public or private is that situation
31:16
if you're in an empty bathroom
31:18
and in an empty stall? When you're in
31:21
a bathroom stall, you do
31:23
things that you would not do on
31:26
the lawn of Wilbur Rogers Park, right?
31:29
And why? Because you think of them
31:31
as more private or more intimate or
31:34
more personal, right? So they're using the
31:36
stall as a way to have
31:39
a bit of privacy, to do whatever it
31:41
is that they do. When George leaves the bathroom,
31:44
he's arrested. And it turns
31:47
out that the man was a plainclothes police
31:49
officer. Which like, at what point
31:51
does that become Entrapment, the
31:53
title of my favorite Catherine Zeta-Jones
31:55
movie? Great movie. Yeah, I
31:57
mean, the legal standard for Entrapment is very high.
32:00
It has to be such that if
32:02
it weren't for the police officer, the person would
32:04
not have been in a position to do the thing
32:07
that they did, like wouldn't have been able to.
32:10
And so I think the argument would be
32:13
in the entrapment side of things that he
32:16
was there cruising. So like, whether
32:18
he ended up cruising with Officer Marcelo
32:20
Rodriguez, or whether he ended up cruising
32:22
with somebody else, it was something that
32:24
was was that like the
32:26
opportunity was there for him to have engaged
32:28
in it. It must be really awkward when
32:31
they're casting the officers who run these sting
32:33
operations. Like they do like some kind
32:35
of beauty pageant. Yeah. And then
32:37
you're like, what if you're what if they
32:39
don't pick you would be really sad. Like
32:42
the L.A. police will later say that
32:45
this isn't the first cruising arrest that
32:47
day. Like this is a sting
32:49
operation. They're catching more than one guy. Why? What
32:51
like Officer Rodriguez is
32:53
spending his day flirting with
32:55
men. You know, it's a
32:58
big city. Surely they have
33:00
better things to do than make
33:02
arrests in the victimless crime department. That
33:05
said, the LAPD is not exactly covering themselves
33:07
in glory in the 1990s. Right.
33:10
It's been a it's been a tough decade. A
33:12
lot of dirt has been
33:14
revealed. They got to cheer themselves
33:16
up by arresting a bunch of gays. Totally
33:19
right. They will later say and I think this
33:22
is true, that they weren't targeting George Michael, that
33:24
they were just there doing this undercover sting. I'm
33:28
sure they weren't targeting George
33:30
Michael. That's actually not my
33:32
primary concern about their behavior.
33:35
That's right. They're like, don't worry, everyone.
33:38
We are not biased against celebrities. It's
33:40
like, yeah, nobody thought that. No, that's
33:42
right. You're biased against queer people. It's
33:45
the queer people vote. After
33:48
the arrest, by all accounts, George
33:50
is polite and cooperative. He's
33:53
allowed to make a phone call. He phones
33:55
Kenny and
33:57
Kenny gets some cash together and he
33:59
goes. It's like only about $500 for
34:01
him to be released. By
34:05
five minutes after 8 p.m. that
34:07
afternoon, George is released and
34:10
goes home. Not a fun day,
34:12
but okay, fine. They
34:14
will later report that Kenny's reaction
34:16
initially was, I was concerned
34:18
that he was getting busted for drugs. And
34:22
the fact that it was park cruising,
34:24
I was relieved. By the end of
34:27
that night, that first night, the tabloids have been
34:29
tipped off by police officers. And on
34:31
the next day, on April 8th,
34:33
1998, the
34:36
LAPD puts out a press release, identifying
34:39
George Michael and saying that he was
34:41
engaged in a lewd act in
34:43
a public park. Oh boy, oh God. Which
34:46
makes you immediately think that he was like
34:49
exposing himself to minors when you
34:51
hear the phrase lewd act. Yeah, right.
34:53
I mean, and that's the legal category that
34:55
he's arrested under, but it's such
34:57
a broad and vague category. It could mean almost
34:59
anything. In George's word, it's
35:01
a complete circus. The
35:03
television stations send helicopters to
35:05
circle his house. There
35:08
are reporters and paparazzi
35:10
and also well-wishers and
35:12
gawkers outside of his house day
35:15
and night. Like crowds, like hundreds
35:17
of people outside his house. I
35:19
imagine being one of the helicopter
35:21
pilots just hovering above George Michael.
35:23
Are they hoping that they're gonna
35:25
get another Bronco chase out of
35:27
this? Right, like is this why
35:30
I went to helicopter school? Yeah.
35:36
You're like up there with someone from the
35:38
local news. You're like, yeah, I lost a
35:40
lot of buddies in Vietnam. And they're like,
35:42
yeah, that's great. Gotta
35:44
see if George Michael takes his trash out.
35:47
Maybe it's a waste of helicopter
35:49
pilot training. It's also a waste
35:51
of the journalists skills as well.
35:55
The next day, April 9, 1998, The
35:57
headline in the sun reads, Zip
36:00
me up before you go go. The
36:02
New York Post headline is down and
36:05
outed in Beverly Hills in the coming
36:07
days. went headlines as can when the
36:09
headline sat and gay with his picture.
36:12
You'll recall that George tie it
36:14
said he had come out of
36:17
the closet. Gray. Because
36:19
like we did this before
36:21
and like I'm putting aside
36:23
whatever George's self perception of
36:25
that is the like. international
36:28
press treats this as his
36:30
outing. Which. Is a much less
36:32
fun. Way to do at than it
36:34
had a catering an album to your
36:36
dad partner who you loved like a
36:38
one hundred percent sir. Like it. I
36:40
mean it's I don't think it's an
36:42
accident that the presses. Connect
36:45
saying. He's gay, and
36:47
he sleazy like that's inextricably linked
36:49
in the mind of the media.
36:52
And like you would think, I don't
36:54
I don't. I can't imagine how this
36:56
would be more than a one day
36:59
new story, more specially these days when
37:01
like someone in Congress doing this would
37:03
be frankly a nice break from the
37:05
kind of shit they got a sale
37:07
right? But it it's not, It's the
37:09
nineties and so this is going to
37:11
become a multi day circus. Were.
37:13
Like were tired of talking about Titanic?
37:15
We're gonna spend two weeks on this
37:17
bank at like absolutely they do like
37:19
leader in the week. George. Michael
37:21
goes out to a restaurant. He just goes
37:24
out to an Italian restaurant called Spy Go.
37:26
The. Paparazzi have been camped out
37:28
of sight of his house for
37:31
like more than one night. He's
37:33
basically doing it just to show
37:35
I'm not ashamed I'm not hiding
37:37
in my house. My. My
37:39
ring like us. Subprime at the end
37:41
of Pretty in Pink. Yes, But like
37:43
the result is like it if Molly
37:45
Ringwald at the end of Pretty in
37:48
Pink is mobbed by reporters and like
37:50
a caravan of cars follows her. Which
37:52
is what happens to George A. Like,
37:54
there is. Reporters.
37:56
And photographers. In
37:59
a long line of. There's following him to
38:01
this restaurant. Where. He goes. And
38:03
just eats a meal and goes home. Like
38:05
nothing happens. So it's like her as
38:08
see and are all for assassin. Big
38:10
test for a man eating. Some.
38:12
Rigatoni totally like the the reporters
38:14
will then like scope out who
38:16
else is in this fancy restaurant
38:18
and it turns out. Not
38:21
just Lionel Richie but also Tony Curtis
38:23
are there that night. Wow, Not to
38:25
have dinner with George Michael. They're just
38:27
they're on their own having dinner. Yeah
38:29
and they're interviewed about what are their
38:31
thoughts and for Michael and both of
38:33
them say. They. Support him. Ah
38:36
yeah Tony Korea says like that
38:38
that's illegal Yeah yeah you be
38:40
as Us Tony Curtis where the
38:42
bodies are hidden. We
38:44
have just as basic police
38:46
at at this period and
38:48
American Life said public sectors
38:50
antisocial. I. Love that. Examining the
38:52
story, Is is as a way of getting
38:55
to the heart of fan taking that apart
38:57
as a concept that held us back yeah
38:59
I I can. I completely agree. Later
39:02
that week is the help of
39:04
London Child Telethon. And
39:06
he asks his sister to phone
39:08
in his donation of fifty thousand
39:10
pounds rather than do it himself
39:12
because he he wants to avoid.
39:15
Turning. The hubble and in
39:17
child telethon into a spectacle about
39:19
him and. Public. Sex read.
39:21
He does quickly move to go
39:23
on the news. He appears on
39:26
Cnn that Saturday. And
39:28
he gives his first public public statements about
39:30
it. And going to send
39:32
you a quote from. What? To what
39:34
he had to say if you could be be read
39:36
that. He. Said I don't feel
39:39
any same Fl stupid and I so
39:41
reckless and we for having allowed my
39:43
sexuality to be exposed in this way.
39:45
but I do not feel any same
39:47
whatsoever and neither do I think I
39:49
said. I love it. I also feel
39:51
like it's the kind of thing that like be would
39:53
be told not to say. Right because that
39:55
the far we had you tube or
39:57
apologies we had. You. know name
40:00
these PR types who would tell you
40:02
to like get out there, eat
40:04
a big slice of humble pie on the
40:06
largest, you know, late night
40:08
show you can find or whatever the
40:11
most appropriate venue is. And then,
40:13
you know, just hope
40:15
people kind of accept your
40:17
show of contrition to your audience. It feels
40:19
like the dynamics, the unspoken dynamics are like,
40:22
people want you to be a certain way and you've
40:24
stepped out of line and you need to say that
40:26
you're never going to do it again. And I
40:29
love that he's being like, no,
40:32
I he's, it feels like
40:34
he's essentially saying, I mean, I'm sorry I got
40:36
caught, but no, I'm doing, I'm still, I'm
40:38
gonna keep doing it. Yeah,
40:41
yeah, yeah. Like, I'm sorry this has ended up in
40:43
the newspaper. I feel, I feel
40:45
foolish. I'm sorry you made such a
40:47
big deal out of that. So
40:50
he's gonna he's gonna plead no contest. I
40:53
love no contest as a plea that
40:55
exists. Oh, God, it's so American. Yeah,
40:58
no, 100%. The punishment is going to be
41:00
a $910 fine.
41:02
Not terrible. Two
41:04
years of probation. He's banned from Will
41:06
Rogers Park for two years. And
41:09
he has to do 80 hours of community service.
41:12
And I feel like we don't like to punish our
41:14
celebrities with jail nearly so much as we like
41:16
to punish them with attention, you know? Right,
41:19
right. And he's getting that just heaped on him.
41:21
He's like the butt of late night jokes for
41:23
weeks and weeks and weeks. He
41:25
continues to be in the paper.
41:27
Any little scrap of new information
41:30
that someone can sell about George
41:32
Michael becomes newsworthy in this cycle.
41:34
So like, for example, there's a photographer that
41:36
photographed him in Will Rogers Park a year
41:38
earlier, like in 1997. And suddenly this photo
41:40
that like, who cares is
41:46
now like this valuable photo commodity that he can
41:48
sell. You know, what scares
41:50
me most now is not these situations where
41:52
you get a media convoy following you around,
41:54
which seems rarer as a
41:57
phenomenon because in the 90s, it was like the media
41:59
was the eye of The around and can only be
42:01
on one thing at a time and now
42:03
we're kind of living in this individual surveillance
42:05
say where everybody has phones. Everybody can take
42:07
video whenever they want. And.
42:10
In a way, we're actually. In.
42:12
Greater pretty because we outsource the
42:15
sort of. Public. Eye
42:17
to. Individuals rather than a
42:19
professional. The of course we still have
42:21
plenty of tabloid media to go around
42:24
that I always think of. The bird
42:26
cage has a great example of like
42:28
just distilling what this looks like an
42:30
accent as we have the. Scandal.
42:33
That Gene Hackman. Colleague
42:35
Unlike the Ways and Means committee
42:38
within were and under age sex
42:40
he died while visiting and under
42:42
a sex worker. Then they're driving
42:44
down to Florida with like this
42:46
convoy of tabloid reporters following. Them
42:48
and. You. Know it's serious when
42:51
it turns up I'm Jay Leno like I
42:53
feel like that was litmus test of like
42:55
if if this is something that we're obsessed
42:57
with and can set up about as an
42:59
ace and than like it'll be on Leno.
43:01
He. Got to get Leno. that's how you know.
43:04
It's. Like how he is he of like frogs
43:06
are owls or whatever. you know you have a
43:08
healthy for us. It's
43:11
I mean, that's that's it exactly. And
43:13
I think they don't like the kind
43:15
of like Snl. Also would be another
43:18
example of a yeah, totally oh my
43:20
god and those outlets would. Just.
43:23
Recycle those jokes over and over
43:25
again for days or even weeks.
43:28
Like. There's these little coders the come
43:30
afterwards. so for example, The
43:32
police officer. Marcella. Rodriguez.
43:35
Sues. George Michael. He.
43:37
Is Susan for Defamation It
43:40
for defamation and claims emotional
43:42
distress damages. About
43:44
I like I think that's pretty
43:47
rich that the a police officer
43:49
who was doing an activity that
43:51
likely to detonate a shame bomb
43:53
in most people who get cause.
43:56
I mean, he didn't know who he was tangling
43:58
with with George. Michael. But to
44:01
turn around and say George Michael
44:03
was causing me emotional distress. George.
44:06
Michael to his credit doesn't pam
44:09
off and instead defend himself and
44:11
wins a poor it will later
44:13
rule. That. George Michael's comments
44:15
were non actionable, non defamatory expressions of
44:18
opinion. Man, I love that he got
44:20
to have a a when and there.
44:22
Are one hundred percent right! A couple
44:25
years later, the West Hollywood City Council
44:27
is gonna pass a motion to end
44:29
the practice of undercover sting operations like
44:32
this and we hope it as that
44:34
they've day passes in two thousand and
44:36
one thing guide. And then
44:38
the the other thing that happens in
44:41
the in the fall of. Ninety.
44:43
Ninety Eight is that George Michael is
44:45
working on a best of record. And
44:48
so he quickly rights a new song
44:50
about. Cruising. It's cold
44:52
outside and it's gonna be a
44:54
number to hit in the Uk.
44:56
It it doesn't go to number
44:59
one because shares believe is unmovable.
45:02
I only wish there had been like a We Are The. World
45:04
type sign up about this
45:06
topic give it Should have
45:08
assembled other celebrities to do
45:10
the leg. the defensive George
45:12
Michael outside music video yes.
45:14
At. Least some of them were. You're like, why is.
45:16
That per cent Here They say gun dannatt
45:18
crime and assign assigned he was on We
45:20
are the world. So
45:23
he's going later say of this encounter
45:25
at the end of the day. I.
45:27
Am gay. And I'm a
45:29
slut. And. Some of us are. And
45:32
we should be fine with that. And more
45:34
familiar with that has a son women are and
45:36
that I think it's true generally that the kind
45:38
of closer were and really, these. Flooding.
45:41
S. As. A
45:43
maladaptive. Response to something in
45:45
our something intrinsically bad. And.
45:49
Just like pride and sledding s
45:51
and slap pride feels like. One.
45:54
Of the Harness frontiers. To. get
45:56
tail and else and the same people who
45:59
have been there since the beginning or
46:01
at least for a really long time. Yeah,
46:03
he's going to say like the reason he goes
46:05
on TV in that first week
46:08
and the reason he responds the way he does
46:10
is he's like in this moment, maybe the only
46:12
thing I can do is reduce
46:14
the stigma, make it so that other
46:17
people don't have to be ashamed or
46:19
embarrassed or feel bad about
46:21
what they're doing in their private lives. You
46:23
know, shame even if it's
46:25
not powerful to destroy George Michael at
46:27
this point, then that's great, but there are
46:29
plenty of people who it can destroy then and
46:31
now and that's, you know, it's for them too.
46:34
Yeah, shame is a form of social control.
46:37
And so the refusal of shame is really about
46:39
a kind of autonomy that like, I get
46:42
to decide what I do with my body. Yeah,
46:45
and not sort of internalize the
46:47
violence. I think you can do
46:49
that in a way that can feel manic or
46:53
a way that can feel reparative where you can say, this
46:56
is actually just a part of who I am. And like our culture
46:59
is not going to want to see that about George Michael in
47:01
the years that follows. They're going to like really zero in on
47:03
this and every time he does any appearance, there's
47:07
going to be a segment about him
47:09
getting arrested in this bathroom. Every
47:12
journalist is going to ask him about it forever. Just
47:15
like Julia Roberts talked about in Notting
47:17
Hill. Yeah, that speech. Oh my God. That's
47:19
exactly that, right? It's so good. Yeah. And
47:23
at the same time, like George's life is just
47:25
moving on. But during this time,
47:27
he's back in the UK. He's
47:29
living mostly outside the city at Goreng
47:33
on Thames, which is north and
47:35
west of London, about 60 miles
47:37
or so from where he grew up, except
47:40
now he's living in a 16th century
47:42
castle. And Kenny's living with him. Kenny's
47:46
dividing his time between Goreng and Dallas where
47:48
he's opened an art gallery. And
47:51
he's selling art from the YBA, like
47:53
the young British artists generation, to Americans.
47:57
George and Kenny have dogs. And
48:00
their life together is pretty quiet. Like
48:03
George likes to watch
48:05
Coronation Street. He likes eating
48:08
McDonald's for lunch and
48:11
sitting in the garden and walking his
48:13
dogs. Well, yeah, I
48:15
mean, I feel like he hasn't really been able to sit in
48:17
the garden for about 20 years. So
48:20
like the next album that's going to come out in 2004 is Patience. Patience
48:24
has got some lovely tributes to Kenny, some songs
48:26
that he's written for Kenny on it.
48:28
It's number one hit in the UK, but
48:31
it peaks at number 12 in the US and
48:33
only sells 381,000 copies.
48:36
But you know, still
48:38
wouldn't kick those numbers out of
48:40
bed for eating crackers. 100%, 100%.
48:42
But like the public perception
48:44
of George Michael in the United States
48:46
has by now completely shifted. So
48:49
like, for example, when he's trying to promote
48:51
the album Patience, he gets booked for a
48:53
full hour on Oprah. producers
48:56
tease the interview episode as quote,
48:59
George Michael's darkest secrets.
49:02
And they refer to him as quote, 80s
49:05
musician George Michael breaks his silence.
49:07
No, breaks his silence. He's
49:11
been around. It's not like he's
49:13
Salinger. Like,
49:16
and also, here's another quote from the promos
49:18
that they're going to provide quote, intimate
49:20
details about his fall from fame. Oh,
49:23
my God. Come on. That's
49:25
rude. The framing in
49:27
the United States. Yeah, it's just like, he's a
49:29
he's a sad has been. Oh,
49:31
my God. That feels like the
49:34
need to believe that like, we
49:36
with our media have toppled him
49:38
from the pedestal. And we're like,
49:40
he's not famous anymore. And he's
49:42
like, I'm famous in Europe. And
49:44
we're like, that's what we said.
49:46
He's not famous anymore. But
49:49
also, he's like, so not famous that he gets booked
49:51
for a full hour on Oprah. Yeah,
49:53
come on. The
49:56
only way you get that is if you're famous or if
49:58
you fell down a well. Like
50:02
in the UK, he's still so
50:04
famous that he has stalkers. Like
50:08
in the year that this album
50:10
comes out in October, it's discovered
50:12
that there's a woman that's been living
50:14
under his deck in
50:17
Hampstead. No, no. We're
50:21
like, look at this has been, he only has
50:23
one stalker. Yeah, that's right.
50:25
And I will say like, despite everything
50:27
else, that there is this kind of
50:29
like loving core of George Michael supporters
50:32
fans who feel very protective
50:34
of him even in his like darkest
50:36
periods. So this is now George
50:38
Michael's in his 40s. And
50:41
it's around this time in 2005, that
50:43
he begins seeing
50:45
an escort and adult film
50:47
actor named Paul Stagg
50:49
in the UK. Paul
50:52
brings drugs, particularly GHB into
50:54
their sexual encounters. GHB
50:56
is a drug that
50:58
is known often as the kind of date
51:01
rape drug, but is also
51:03
used as a party drug in
51:05
especially in gay male circles at
51:08
this time. Paul's story
51:10
is not totally reliable. Most
51:13
of what we know about it is because he was
51:16
paid, you know, like, right, he was paid
51:18
for interviews in the British tabloid press. What
51:22
Paul is going to say later
51:24
is that George quickly loses interest
51:26
in him sexually, eventually just becomes
51:28
his primary contact for supplying him
51:30
with GHB, whichever text message they
51:32
refer to as champagne. And
51:34
so it's with that kind of
51:36
background in mind that we
51:39
reconnect with George Michael at
51:41
1.30am on February 26, 2006, a few kilometers
51:43
from George's London home. And
51:52
there, there are reports of a
51:54
black Mercedes stopped diagonally
51:56
in the middle of the lane. and
52:00
the driver is slumped over the wheel. When
52:04
paramedics attend and
52:06
knock on the window, the driver stumbles
52:08
out of the car and it's George
52:11
Michael, and he's
52:13
semi-conscious. The police search
52:15
his car and they find pot and GHB,
52:19
and also the tabloids
52:21
report that there's fetish gear in the
52:23
back of his car, like obviously unrelated
52:25
at not anyone's business, but the
52:28
mirror, for example, prints a giant
52:30
picture of a leather mask with
52:32
the zipper mouth. He
52:34
leathered himself nearly to death, ladies
52:36
and gents. And police give
52:39
him a warning, he's released without charge. And
52:41
what was going on on his side
52:43
of it? Well, I mean, I think
52:46
that's a good question. In the early
52:48
2000s, there is a turn among a certain segment of
52:53
gay partiers toward drugs
52:55
like GHB and ketamine,
52:58
drugs of extreme forgetting. And
53:01
it's also a drug that can be
53:03
an antidote to kind of like a
53:05
risk paralysis. I can see
53:07
why it would be an appealing drug
53:09
to take up for him in this moment, for
53:12
many people in our communities to take up
53:14
in this moment as ways of
53:16
letting go. And
53:18
especially when you're thinking of
53:20
every sexual act or
53:22
activity through the lens
53:25
of comparative risk, there's
53:28
like a kind of cash register of risk
53:31
that's dinging in your head with every
53:33
activity that you do, taking
53:36
a drug to shut that off. Like
53:38
I can see that, I can empathize with that. For
53:41
example, Flick Thornley, she's a
53:43
lesbian who
53:45
worked in the AIDS Hospice Movement in
53:48
London in the 90s,
53:51
describes this turn. Like, I mean, it's
53:53
not just George Michael, it's not happening
53:55
in isolation. It's just this sort of
53:57
turn toward these drugs that can.
54:00
Have to promise or the offer
54:02
of amnesia to people who are
54:04
badly scarred, people who have a
54:06
who are badly hurt and wounded.
54:08
Maybe this is he simplistic that
54:10
it almost feels like you can
54:12
talk about seeing evidence of complex
54:14
Pts see within. A
54:16
demographic or culture. George has
54:18
has been drinking his like in particular
54:21
loves red wine. throughout the the period
54:23
we've been talking about up until now,
54:25
he's been smoking, smoking pot like lots
54:28
of pot sometimes. as much as fifteen
54:30
joints a day series is not naive
54:32
to the world of of substances. I.
54:35
Do also think that people who have
54:38
that kind of sensitivity, people who are
54:40
may be prone to being over stimulated
54:42
in moments will look for what do
54:44
I do to self regulate what what's
54:47
available to me? And there's like, kind
54:49
of like healthy and unhealthy ways. I
54:51
think most of us most of the
54:54
time use a mix of healthy and
54:56
unhealthy ways. He now it's the price.
54:58
Active, had assertive, survive. the hits the
55:00
is hake. And the course
55:02
of your life and. How to
55:04
sort of create? The inside of
55:07
your body and and your psyche as
55:09
as a livable place for you like.
55:12
Those. Answers are hard to come by. It's
55:14
hard to fault people for not finding
55:17
them sooner, finding them better, and yet
55:19
we never run out of ways to
55:21
fault celebrities for failing to find them
55:23
sooner. and and regular people feel that
55:25
we get he is a celebrity is
55:27
as an example I represent. I mean,
55:29
now that said, like he shouldn't have
55:31
been driving. it seems pretty clear he
55:33
should have been driving on that day.
55:35
He's gonna have a troubled relationship to
55:37
his car for the rest of his
55:39
life. That was in
55:41
February of two thousand and six
55:43
in April. Two months later, there's
55:45
another incident. He. Gets into
55:47
his navy blue Range Rover. At.
55:50
Eight in the morning. And
55:52
I mean it sounds like me leaving
55:54
any parallel parking situation but he like
55:57
backs up into or a car causing
55:59
damage. And then forward and hicks
56:01
the fender off. He does a sure
56:03
and sound and casino escape damages three
56:05
different cars on his way out. The
56:07
sorry that's gonna get told us that
56:09
he was up all night doing drugs
56:11
and having sex. But. He
56:14
send someone back later in the day
56:16
to knock on doors. To. Identify
56:18
the owners of the cars that he
56:20
can. He can pay for the damage.
56:22
Me: I'm like yeah now. If
56:24
he can afford. It he got a guy v the.
56:27
Generous Are the people his currency? The
56:29
thread? yeah, I feel like it's it's
56:31
interesting cases we have. And as
56:33
happen so frequently with the a story as we
56:35
have someone who like it's fair for the public
56:38
to be genuinely concerned about. And. For
56:40
particular reason the six have to do with is
56:42
kind of the wear and tear of life and
56:44
pain and. Substances: Making
56:46
you a dangerous driver. Potentially that
56:48
getting that into that as lake
56:50
is a dangerous time Herpes has
56:52
of he is gay hurt us
56:55
read exactly if we if we
56:57
wanted to express concern for him.
56:59
That's one thing. But like the
57:01
press are reporting this kind of
57:03
gleefully after that April incident. They.
57:06
Run up a story where they
57:08
call him a quote sad tortured
57:10
porker yes he was so sad
57:12
and gay A seats s lost
57:14
control of the vehicle a slave
57:17
is ah guy had i feel
57:19
like is the we need to
57:21
immediately make our lakes. To.
57:23
Sad and gay to drives
57:25
button fruitless. Got
57:28
into an adventure over by that
57:30
time. In
57:34
July of two thousand and six. He.
57:37
Is caught by by
57:39
paparazzi. Exiting. The
57:41
Bushes at Hampden. He's that London,
57:43
which is another popular cruising around.
57:45
For a second I thought you're
57:47
gonna say The Bushes compound at
57:49
Hyannis for it or wherever they
57:51
eleven. I was like, oh, now
57:53
he's friends with conservatives, but now
57:55
it's just some. but it has
57:57
some shrubbery. that's fine. Fear not.
58:00
That during this period he he
58:02
releases an anti war song called
58:04
shoot The Dog is mostly aimed
58:06
at Tony Blair, but there's like
58:08
Tony Blair and George Bush in
58:10
the video. Like cartoon characters of
58:12
them know he's he's. A.
58:15
Against the War in Iraq and he's
58:17
very public about it, actually. cyclone. Jeremy
58:20
and Peepshow, you can kill us
58:22
access to protect your legacy. You're
58:25
Not Blair. Oh My. God. Yeah.
58:29
By say we're in in. Hampstead
58:31
Heath at night. In July
58:34
of two thousand and six is cut. Leaving
58:36
the bush is not by the police but
58:38
by photographers. He realizes he's
58:40
being photographed. He confronts them
58:42
and he's basically like. Are.
58:45
You gay know than
58:47
ass off. Like. This
58:49
is my culture. So I love that
58:52
I feel like he was like one of the
58:54
first people I can think of who is like.
58:57
It is offensive of you to stop
58:59
from having sex. and this bass like
59:01
that's a very Zimmer argument. A successor
59:03
in every hit. Like here's a youth,
59:05
more of the quote he goes on
59:07
to say, i doubt effing believe it.
59:10
If. You put those pictures in the paper
59:12
All sue. I'm not doing
59:14
anything illegal. The police don't even come
59:16
here anymore. I'm. A free
59:19
man. I can do whatever I
59:21
want. I'm not harming anyone. Ah,
59:23
top. last. The. Reporters that are
59:25
there follow another man who comes out of
59:27
the bushes home. In. Orders like
59:29
interview him about whether or not he
59:31
had sex with George Michael in the
59:34
Bush. We Now Go Live suggests who
59:36
was in a bus but exactly that.
59:38
They referred to him as like a
59:40
pot bellied truck driver Select Again, they're
59:42
They're making these kind of like class
59:45
markers. There also are it's obviously sad
59:47
for back. And like the guy says
59:49
the newspaper, I don't even like George
59:51
Michael's music. Nice. I love. I
59:56
love that he like lack. Luster?
59:58
Don't get it. twisted. I am not a fan
1:00:01
of his music. October 2, 2006,
1:00:03
he's in another car accident. He spotted
1:00:05
driving erratically and then stalled in an
1:00:08
intersection. Like basically, the
1:00:10
lights change and the car doesn't move. The
1:00:12
lights change, the car doesn't move. There's
1:00:14
no one who's gonna be injured by any of
1:00:16
these incidents. But yeah, he found
1:00:19
by the police again. They
1:00:21
search his car and in his car, they only
1:00:23
find pot. But he's taken to the hospital
1:00:25
before the police station and they do a blood draw. And
1:00:28
so they get the
1:00:31
toxicology report and it
1:00:33
shows antidepressants, sleeping
1:00:35
pills, pot, and GHB.
1:00:39
That's a few different things you shouldn't drive while
1:00:41
using. And early the next year,
1:00:43
he pleads guilty to driving while unfit and they
1:00:45
take his license away for two years. Like
1:00:47
from the legal systems point of view, probably a good decision,
1:00:50
but he's obviously gonna feel like
1:00:52
he's having his wings clipped a
1:00:54
bit. Yeah, I mean, driving
1:00:57
is such a strange thing for us to get used
1:00:59
to doing all the time. But if you lose your
1:01:01
ability to do it in adulthood, it can feel like
1:01:04
losing the ability to do any of
1:01:06
your other adult functions, like
1:01:08
opening a door with a key.
1:01:12
Yeah, for some people, it's like, it's synecdoche.
1:01:14
It stands in for the whole of what
1:01:16
it is to be free. But
1:01:19
also at a practical level, like he lives 60 miles
1:01:21
out of town. I guess he needs to get a
1:01:23
horse. Like at one point, one
1:01:25
of the tabloid journalists in
1:01:27
one of their many, many articles
1:01:30
about him says, George, for God's
1:01:32
sake, get a chauffeur. Which like,
1:01:35
okay. That's at least more helpful than what
1:01:37
they normally talk about. I think that's right.
1:01:40
I'm like, it's like a kind of a stopped
1:01:43
clock is right twice a day kind of thing,
1:01:45
but I'm with him on this one. After
1:01:47
he gets his license taken away, there's
1:01:50
a lull in reporting of sort
1:01:53
of bad behavior. I
1:01:55
think that's in part because he's like literally not behind
1:01:57
the wheel. He's also touring.
1:02:00
So he releases tickets for
1:02:02
the 25 Live concerts where
1:02:05
he's celebrating 25 years in the music business.
1:02:08
Yeah, so he's touring and by all
1:02:10
accounts, it's a successful tour. People
1:02:13
get their monies where they feel like he's given them
1:02:15
a real show. Yeah, the next
1:02:17
time he's in the tabloid press, he's
1:02:19
at Hampstead Heath again. And
1:02:22
this time someone thinks he's selling drugs
1:02:24
and he phones the cops. And
1:02:27
George has searched the police find pot
1:02:29
and crack cocaine. And
1:02:31
while he's arrested, he's not charged. Even
1:02:33
though he's not charged, the tabloids get ahold of it. Of course they
1:02:36
do. And
1:02:38
his former friend Tony Parsons,
1:02:40
the guy who published the
1:02:42
three-part tell-all about about
1:02:44
George and Ensalmo, writes in the
1:02:47
mirror, somewhere inside that
1:02:49
fat, sleazy, bloated old geezer is
1:02:51
the George Michael I used to
1:02:53
know. Okay, God. But
1:02:57
of course the real problem is that
1:02:59
he's gained weight and
1:03:01
aged. Why would he do that? When
1:03:05
he could have simply not. From
1:03:07
the time that he is arrested in
1:03:10
Beverly Hills in 1998, it's just a
1:03:12
matter of like, what are we going
1:03:14
to use to pillory
1:03:17
George? It's not a matter of if, it's
1:03:19
a matter of like, let's pick our implement
1:03:22
of choice. He becomes one of
1:03:24
those characters like Anna Nicole, who's always good
1:03:26
for a little laugh. Yeah,
1:03:28
yeah, it really does just go on and on and
1:03:30
on. These car
1:03:33
accidents are going to culminate in 2010
1:03:35
with him. He
1:03:37
gets into a one-person car accident, like he drives
1:03:39
into the side of a shop. And
1:03:42
there's like a big dent in the wall
1:03:44
after it's cleared out. And the next day
1:03:46
a fan, well
1:03:49
somebody, writes above the hole in
1:03:51
the side of the wall, wank
1:03:53
a wham. George
1:03:58
then does go to rehab. He
1:04:00
goes to rehab for two weeks
1:04:02
as a show of remorse. And
1:04:07
the judge doesn't buy it. He says that
1:04:09
you put people at risk, which
1:04:11
is true. And the sentence is a fine of 1,250 pounds,
1:04:18
a five-year driving ban, and
1:04:20
eight weeks in prison. I'm glad that we're
1:04:23
treating this more seriously than the bathroom thing,
1:04:25
because I realize things very wildly and it's
1:04:27
just kind of a coincidence that it lined
1:04:29
up this way, but it feels all right.
1:04:32
I mean, I think that's right. I do
1:04:34
think legitimately that he was putting people
1:04:36
at risk and it's a
1:04:38
good thing that no one got hurt. He's
1:04:41
taken out of the courtroom and immediately to jail
1:04:44
and he serves four weeks in jail. Because
1:04:46
of this conviction, he
1:04:48
can't get an American visa and he never
1:04:50
tours there again. I mean,
1:04:53
this is another example of the consequences,
1:04:55
not being the actual sentence, but
1:04:58
something that's an external consequence of the
1:05:01
sentence that could have potentially
1:05:03
a more significant effect. In George's life, he's
1:05:05
gonna continue touring in Europe. He's gonna be
1:05:07
fine. While he's in jail,
1:05:09
he's getting letters from like Paul McCartney and Elton
1:05:11
John. And before he leaves,
1:05:14
he signs autographs for staff and
1:05:16
all the inmates who want one. And
1:05:20
he's never caught doing anything unsafe behind the
1:05:22
wheel again, although there is one more accident.
1:05:24
It's somewhere in this period that George and
1:05:26
Kenny break up. They deny it for a
1:05:28
while, so we actually don't, like we can't
1:05:31
pinpoint the date. Somewhere between 2009 and 2011,
1:05:33
they break up. And
1:05:37
at the same time, Kenny goes into
1:05:40
inpatient treatment for alcoholism. And
1:05:42
George has a new man. He
1:05:44
starts dating a guy named Fadi Fawaz. And
1:05:47
I don't know whether there's overlap
1:05:49
between the Kenny period and the Fadi
1:05:52
Fawaz period. It seems like
1:05:54
it's a relationship that starts more as
1:05:57
a casual dating or casual sex
1:05:59
scenario. that becomes more
1:06:01
serious over time. Farifuaz is
1:06:04
described in different ways by different newspapers, and
1:06:06
you can sort of tell what
1:06:09
the newspaper is trying to tell you by
1:06:11
the way he's described. He's described as a
1:06:14
Lebanese hairdresser, and he has cut hair in
1:06:16
his life. It's not what he does his
1:06:18
whole life. He's also described
1:06:20
as a former gay porn star, and that's
1:06:23
also true. He performed under the name Isaac
1:06:25
Mazar. I mean, in this
1:06:27
economy, you have to diversify. However
1:06:30
it starts, the two are gonna remain companions
1:06:32
for the rest of George's life. Well, good.
1:06:34
I'm glad that he was with someone. My
1:06:37
child, my baby boy, George Michael. Right,
1:06:40
right, right. Your baby boy, who is now, he's
1:06:42
in his late 40s, right? He's
1:06:44
about to turn 50. At one
1:06:46
point, he's like so exhausted. Well, there's like a kind
1:06:49
of undisclosed illness. We're not totally sure what happens in
1:06:51
2011 as he's
1:06:53
preparing for his gig in Vienna, and
1:06:56
he goes to the hospital. He's admitted for several
1:06:58
weeks. He's in a coma for a little while,
1:07:01
and he has to reschedule some dates. When
1:07:04
he reschedules, he's gonna give 300 free tickets to
1:07:07
the hospital staff in Vienna. Our boy,
1:07:09
George. Our boy, our
1:07:11
baby boy. He
1:07:13
reschedules some tour dates, and him
1:07:15
and Fadi take a vacation together.
1:07:18
Maybe I could send you some photos of their vacation.
1:07:22
They're on Twitter, and
1:07:24
they're posting photos of themselves. This
1:07:26
is not, these aren't paparazzi photos.
1:07:30
It's so weird when you get all the way after the Twitter
1:07:32
era in a story you're telling. Okay, I'm
1:07:34
gonna send you two photos, and I'm
1:07:36
also going to send you what
1:07:38
George tweets about
1:07:41
this tour. So they've rented a yacht, and
1:07:44
they're traveling around the Pacific Rim. So it
1:07:46
says, I'm on the first real holiday I've had in many a
1:07:48
year, sipping a cocktail
1:07:50
on a balmy night, listening to the sea
1:07:52
in the company of a painfully handsome
1:07:54
man. I love those
1:07:56
moments when people use social media and
1:07:59
a very honest and... simple way, I guess, feel like, things
1:08:02
have worked out for me. Brag.
1:08:04
Yeah, exactly. Ah,
1:08:07
and do you see the pictures as well?
1:08:09
I love that it's so touchy and they
1:08:11
just look really happy. Yeah. In
1:08:14
both photos they're hugging. Fuddy's
1:08:16
a swarthy guy, right? He's got
1:08:18
like a hairy chest and he's
1:08:20
got like big, like a dad
1:08:22
bod arms. Yeah. It's two dad
1:08:25
bods in paradise. Yeah,
1:08:27
totally. So he does return
1:08:29
from this and, uh, finish
1:08:31
the tour and the rescheduled
1:08:34
dates. There's also a symphonic
1:08:36
album. There's some more difficult
1:08:38
things that happen in 2013 and 2014. For
1:08:42
example, he's found in a pool with hypothermia
1:08:44
and it's believed that he's been there overnight
1:08:46
and we're not totally sure why. Right.
1:08:49
He's like found passed out in a bathtub
1:08:52
and maybe the strangest incident. It
1:08:54
happens in, in may of 2013. George
1:08:57
is the passenger in a range rover. They're
1:08:59
like driving in the highway. Suddenly
1:09:02
the passenger door opens and
1:09:04
George rolls out of the car onto
1:09:07
the highway, bouncing several times
1:09:09
to the shoulder of the road.
1:09:11
He's treated on the scene and
1:09:13
miraculously he's fine. He like never
1:09:15
even loses consciousness. He's not
1:09:17
charged with anything related to the incident
1:09:20
because they don't know what to charge
1:09:22
him with. Like riding without a seatbelt,
1:09:24
but he's like not the driver. He's not, he's
1:09:26
not driving when this happens. It's
1:09:28
just bizarre. Yeah. But
1:09:31
it's like he, he's become an
1:09:33
extraordinarily accident prone person, that's fair
1:09:35
to say. What all of these
1:09:37
incidents have in common, the incidents
1:09:39
in the car in 2006. And
1:09:42
then these ones like being found in
1:09:44
the bathtub and being found in a, in
1:09:47
a pool are this
1:09:49
kind of like freezing reaction. Some
1:09:52
types of drugs can have that effect, the kind of
1:09:54
like K hole where you
1:09:56
become kind of immobile or sometimes immobile
1:09:58
for a long time. time. And
1:10:01
I don't know that that fully explains
1:10:04
the falling out of the car on
1:10:06
the highway story, but it
1:10:08
does sort of blink the rest of them. Yeah,
1:10:10
I guess, well, it just seems, I mean, what's your take
1:10:13
on his drug use,
1:10:15
you know, in roughly this period? Like
1:10:17
I say, people use drugs for all kinds
1:10:19
of reasons. And I'm not somebody who's going
1:10:21
to say that using drugs are bad on
1:10:24
their own. He's a grown woman. He can
1:10:27
do whatever he wants. He really,
1:10:29
I mean, legit, like he doesn't have anything,
1:10:31
he doesn't owe anyone anything at this point,
1:10:33
if he wants to, to use
1:10:36
party drugs and, and have sex and have fun,
1:10:38
like have at it. He
1:10:41
comes to see it as destructive himself
1:10:43
though. And in June of
1:10:45
2015, he finds he
1:10:47
goes to rehab for an a sustained period.
1:10:50
It's actually like almost a full year he goes
1:10:53
to Zurich, Switzerland. And for the
1:10:55
first several months, he's inpatient.
1:10:58
And then even when he's an outpatient, he's
1:11:00
still living in Zurich and doing like several
1:11:03
hours of intensive therapy several times a week.
1:11:06
And he gets sober. There's
1:11:08
lots of photos of Foddy visiting him
1:11:11
during this period, having lunch
1:11:13
together in fancy restaurants
1:11:15
in Switzerland. And
1:11:17
I love that for them. I love that
1:11:19
that got to be part of the
1:11:22
story. Yeah. And that's 2015 to
1:11:24
2016. He gets back to the
1:11:27
UK in the summer of 2016, approximately.
1:11:31
And when he does, he stays
1:11:33
almost exclusively at his country house
1:11:36
in Goering in the castle. He's like
1:11:38
kind of a bit of a homebody. Castle
1:11:40
body, if you will. That's right. At
1:11:42
this point, he has a trach
1:11:44
scar from the Vienna hospital incident.
1:11:47
And he has a big scar on the back
1:11:49
of his head from falling out of the car.
1:11:51
He goes out to dinner at an Italian restaurant.
1:11:54
And guess what? People take pictures
1:11:56
of him with their cell phones and
1:11:58
sell them to the press. And
1:12:01
the journalists say, wow,
1:12:03
it looks like he's put on a lot of weight. This
1:12:05
is the Phantom of the Opera's real backstory. You
1:12:08
know, he just gained some weight. And he was
1:12:10
like, I just got to stay in this opera
1:12:12
house forever. The concern
1:12:14
trolling that the journalists were doing
1:12:16
before was like, oh, he's so
1:12:19
unhealthy. And then he goes and
1:12:21
spends 12 months. He
1:12:23
spends a whole year getting healthy. And
1:12:25
what happens? They're still trolling him.
1:12:28
We don't want people to be healthy. We
1:12:30
want people to be at death's door, but
1:12:32
looking the way we prefer them to. Yeah,
1:12:35
I mean, I think that's right. I
1:12:37
also think for George in particular, he's
1:12:39
somebody who had such attention
1:12:41
on his physical appearance from the time he
1:12:44
was a teenager. And
1:12:46
like everything we know about that is it's
1:12:48
a formula for, at a minimum,
1:12:51
people getting to middle age and not even
1:12:53
knowing what their body's natural set point is.
1:12:56
Like, right? He's probably been on a
1:12:58
diet or thinking about his weight in
1:13:01
some way or another, his entire adult life, and
1:13:03
most of his teen years too. In
1:13:06
a weird way, the fat and gay
1:13:08
insult has a certain revealingness
1:13:11
to it because it's the two things that
1:13:13
your body wants naturally to be, but that
1:13:15
you must work for your entire life to
1:13:17
keep it from doing. And
1:13:20
so that's where he is in, for Christmas of
1:13:22
2016. He's
1:13:25
at the house of Goring. He's
1:13:27
not going out. He's staying in. On
1:13:30
Christmas Eve, on December 24th,
1:13:33
George and Foddy have a late lunch together, and
1:13:36
reportedly there's some kind of friction,
1:13:38
a fight, some kind of disagreement.
1:13:41
His biographer, James Gavin,
1:13:43
says they upset each other, which
1:13:45
is just a light, full-lead bag. Who
1:13:47
knows what that means? But George retires to his bedroom
1:13:50
in the afternoon,
1:13:52
and Foddy's photographed coming and going
1:13:54
from the house throughout the day. But
1:13:57
One of the mysteries of this day is... Body
1:14:01
will later say. He
1:14:03
got into his car. And.
1:14:05
Decided that he was to an unfit
1:14:07
to drive. And. Slept.
1:14:09
They're like he slept in his car
1:14:11
overnight on Christmas Eve and then like
1:14:13
he later says that, that's not true
1:14:16
and not so I don't know. It's
1:14:18
a weird thing to make up in
1:14:20
the evening on on Christmas Eve. It's
1:14:22
tradition in the town as boring for
1:14:24
their to be this candlelight procession. The.
1:14:26
Townspeople come out and they christmas hims
1:14:29
together as a holiday procession passes below
1:14:31
towards his house. Some people say that
1:14:33
they can see him watching the festivities
1:14:35
from his darkened bedroom window. That is
1:14:37
a lovely memory and exactly the kind
1:14:40
of thing that people would fabricate later
1:14:42
on. One hundred percent of the i
1:14:44
don't know, I like to think of
1:14:46
it that way. like if it's true,
1:14:49
It's sort of sitting that the last people that
1:14:51
would see him alive. Would. Be
1:14:54
the public as opposed to his friends or
1:14:56
family. And the next day
1:14:58
in the early afternoon. George.
1:15:00
Fails to emerge from his bedroom. And.
1:15:03
Thought he goes to try to a month. The. Room
1:15:05
is dark. The. Curtains are drawn.
1:15:08
And. Or George's in bed under
1:15:10
the covers. And. He's not
1:15:13
breathing. His body is cold
1:15:15
and blue. Party. Claims
1:15:17
that when he found George he
1:15:19
then tried to revive him by
1:15:21
it later emerged as that thought
1:15:23
he did not immediately call for
1:15:25
an ambulance. And. Instead, he called
1:15:28
like several of his friends and acquaintances
1:15:30
before. He called Eve causes
1:15:32
nice He calls David Austin his
1:15:34
like. I have a longtime friend
1:15:37
of George's and damn the license
1:15:39
like. Hang up with me and
1:15:41
call the whole nine nine nine which is the. British.
1:15:44
Nine One One which is what a
1:15:46
Fatty Than does So it's one forty
1:15:48
five in the afternoon on Christmas Day
1:15:51
and are funny cause Nine Nine Nine
1:15:53
because it's Britain and because of the
1:15:55
tabloids. That's. The text of that
1:15:57
phone call is going to be leads to the
1:15:59
media. And I would
1:16:01
say Foddy doesn't come off very well in it.
1:16:04
He seems like he's in a
1:16:06
rush to get off the telephone,
1:16:08
and he's asked what George's birthday
1:16:10
is, and he gets it wrong.
1:16:13
At one point he says, do I have to stay on
1:16:15
the line while the ambulance comes or can I hang up?
1:16:18
George Michaels fans are grieving when they receive
1:16:20
this leaked 999 call, but
1:16:24
they're going to lash out pretty
1:16:26
strongly against Foddy in
1:16:28
response. To me
1:16:30
it's not strange behavior. That's just
1:16:32
somebody who is expressing surprise
1:16:35
and grief and shock. And
1:16:38
yet if you want there to be
1:16:40
someone to blame for it, then he's kind
1:16:42
of making himself a soft target. Yeah,
1:16:45
I think that's right. When the
1:16:48
emergency personnel do arrive, it's
1:16:50
clear that George has been dead for a
1:16:52
long time. In a practical matter, it
1:16:55
wouldn't have had any effect on anything. Yeah,
1:16:57
I mean when someone's dead, you
1:16:59
can usually tell. I think
1:17:01
also because of this story about
1:17:03
the car, people blame Foddy because
1:17:05
this idea that he was messed
1:17:07
up on drugs asleep in the
1:17:09
driveway during George's final moments.
1:17:13
But the two slept in different bedrooms. So
1:17:16
the alternative was that they would have been
1:17:18
in different bedrooms, and the same thing would
1:17:20
have unfolded. But I also
1:17:22
think, I mean, so people blame him for
1:17:24
the way he behaved that day, but I
1:17:27
think even more people blame him for the
1:17:29
fact that George Michael died alone.
1:17:32
And I feel like when you love someone as a
1:17:34
public, you have the sense of, you know, if only
1:17:36
I could have been around,
1:17:38
I would have done a better job. But
1:17:41
that's the thing about relationships. It's also,
1:17:43
we can believe all kinds of things about something you weren't
1:17:46
a part of. For a
1:17:48
lot of people, myself included, the idea
1:17:51
of passing away suddenly in
1:17:53
my own bed at night is
1:17:56
comforting, maybe even ideal. See, it
1:17:59
seems harder. and harder to get the chance
1:18:01
to do it these days. If
1:18:03
it's any consolation, after he
1:18:06
died, his fans left
1:18:08
cards and notes and flowers and
1:18:11
little stuffed animals in
1:18:13
front of his house in London and also in Goreng.
1:18:16
And the message is not to
1:18:19
sort of flatten the whole thing,
1:18:21
but with greater or lesser degrees
1:18:23
of complexity, the messages were essentially
1:18:25
that. I love you, George.
1:18:28
I'm here. I won't forget you. You're
1:18:31
safe. How
1:18:33
did you feel about this news when
1:18:35
it reached you? Do you remember this? Like
1:18:38
a lot of people, I was struck by how young he
1:18:40
was. He was 53 when he died. We
1:18:43
got to see his life in so many
1:18:45
different phases, you know, from
1:18:47
the kind of like bubbly youth to
1:18:50
the kind of sex pot figure to
1:18:52
the like kind of older gay uncle. When
1:18:56
I was a kid growing up gay in the
1:18:58
1980s, we didn't have examples
1:19:01
of gay adulthood kind
1:19:03
of taken to completion, like a life
1:19:05
from beginning to end. It's not like
1:19:08
role model. I wouldn't use that word
1:19:10
about George Michael, but just an example.
1:19:13
Here's an example of a life. Here's what a life could be. Queer
1:19:16
people growing up today have examples
1:19:19
of people who were
1:19:21
gay and lived full
1:19:24
and complete lives. Yeah.
1:19:26
And I mean, and lives, you know, shaped
1:19:28
by hate and trauma
1:19:30
and injustice, but also lives where he
1:19:33
had a life where he had love. There
1:19:36
were so many men who jitterbugged into his heart.
1:19:44
And I do think there was this kind
1:19:46
of outpouring of unironic
1:19:49
love and grief for George Michael after
1:19:51
he died. And even
1:19:54
the newspapers, which had been so cruel to
1:19:56
him in the years before he died, published
1:19:59
these glowing accounts. like
1:20:01
one of the things that emerged as a
1:20:03
theme in the writing afterwards was, oh,
1:20:05
it turns out he was such a philanthropist. He
1:20:08
was like hiding how secretly he was
1:20:10
giving money away. And it's true that
1:20:12
some of the money he
1:20:14
gave away was in secret. But it's
1:20:16
also like that was hiding in plain
1:20:18
sight. He was giving
1:20:21
away money from his, from the release
1:20:23
of Sing, I mean, we talked about a bunch of it,
1:20:25
the money from last Christmas, the
1:20:27
money from his duet with Elton John. There's
1:20:30
like a report in the 80s that he'd already given
1:20:32
away 6 million pounds to his friends
1:20:34
and family. And it's like
1:20:36
kind of like what do the tabloids want to
1:20:38
see? Like when they were just like kicking this
1:20:40
man when he was down, all
1:20:42
of that philanthropy was on the
1:20:44
record. Yeah, but they didn't want to do, but
1:20:47
they needed the fat shrubbery sex
1:20:49
gay headline. So you can't use
1:20:51
that information, right? It's only once
1:20:54
someone is dead that you can
1:20:56
be nice to them profitably, electedly.
1:20:58
Maybe it's that, that they, that
1:21:01
it was profitable for the tabloids to put
1:21:03
up this image of George Michael as this
1:21:06
quote, sort of sad haunted
1:21:08
porker. And then once
1:21:11
he's dead, it's profitable to put up
1:21:13
this other version of him as like
1:21:15
St. George. And so
1:21:17
the coroner's office does a second more detailed
1:21:19
examination, but it takes time. It ends up
1:21:21
taking about two and a half months. And
1:21:24
so the media is left during
1:21:27
this period of following his death
1:21:29
without conclusive answers. And
1:21:32
that leads to a lot of speculation. And for
1:21:35
the family and for his loved ones,
1:21:37
it's also means they can't bury him
1:21:40
until the second examination is concluded. And
1:21:43
so they're stuck in this kind of
1:21:46
period of perpetual mourning. The
1:21:48
second examination, the conclusion
1:21:50
is that he died of a heart
1:21:52
failure and that he had fatty liver.
1:21:55
In other words, his death is ruled to
1:21:57
be from natural causes. The report
1:21:59
looks like the report of somebody who drank
1:22:01
and smoked heavily during his life, which is
1:22:05
undoubtedly true. However, the toxicology report, like
1:22:07
what was in his bloodstream at the
1:22:09
time that he died, is withheld
1:22:12
from the public. And we don't
1:22:14
know. So we can't say for sure whether
1:22:17
he relapsed at the end. And I think
1:22:20
people at the time were really, were
1:22:22
really sad that they couldn't get
1:22:25
that finality from, from these
1:22:27
reports. And I don't know, like, to
1:22:29
me it's like, why does that matter?
1:22:32
Yeah, why does it matter? Right? What are
1:22:34
what's being unsaid and the need for
1:22:36
that information? Right. Like, are
1:22:39
we waiting to cast our final judgment
1:22:41
on on George to say the toxicology
1:22:43
report is clean, and
1:22:45
therefore, he is a somebody
1:22:48
who overcame his demons. We
1:22:51
can tell that arc, like it's a pretty
1:22:53
clean narrative story. Or if he
1:22:55
if there is something in his in his blood
1:22:57
at the time, then we have a
1:22:59
different story that we have to tell. But I,
1:23:02
I actually don't think that's true.
1:23:04
He was both
1:23:06
things through his throughout his life. He was
1:23:08
a high achiever. And he was
1:23:10
a person who used drugs. And
1:23:12
he was somebody who sometimes
1:23:15
had battles. And
1:23:18
whatever was happening on that
1:23:20
last day, doesn't erase. It's
1:23:22
like the least important part or it's
1:23:24
just a tiny fraction of the story.
1:23:28
Yeah. Well, I feel like, you know,
1:23:30
one of the kind of human
1:23:32
behaviors around death is the
1:23:35
need to come up with a reason for why
1:23:37
it wouldn't happen to us or why the person
1:23:40
deserved it. Right. And I feel like we're
1:23:42
trying to create some kind of cause and
1:23:44
effect narrative out of, you
1:23:46
know, if someone is found
1:23:48
with drugs in their system, then we can
1:23:50
blame that on
1:23:52
them. We can blame their death on their
1:23:55
behavior in a
1:23:57
way that probably makes us feel safer.
1:24:00
And I think really, you know, it doesn't
1:24:02
make us safer to do that, even if
1:24:04
it feels that way sometimes. And really, it's,
1:24:07
I don't know, what feels relevant about
1:24:10
the information that we have is that
1:24:12
he lived a long life, not
1:24:14
necessarily in years, but in terms of the
1:24:17
events crammed into all of his
1:24:19
adult years and had survived a
1:24:22
lot. And there's
1:24:24
just a limit to what our bodies can survive one
1:24:26
way or another. Yeah,
1:24:28
yeah. I think
1:24:30
it's, in a way, it's kind of nice that
1:24:32
we're denied that total closure. The public should have
1:24:35
more limits placed on what we know. The
1:24:37
funeral isn't broadcast. And when
1:24:40
he's buried, he's buried in a private plot.
1:24:42
They don't want, you know, heaps of flowers at his
1:24:45
grave site or the risk of
1:24:47
vandalism. For a number of
1:24:49
years afterwards, he's in some sort of private
1:24:51
cemetery where the only way you could
1:24:54
get in to even look at it was if you're
1:24:56
on a guided tour, basically. He
1:24:58
gets to have some privacy, which I think it's
1:25:00
really high time. And
1:25:02
you know, it matters how we treat the dead, you
1:25:05
know? If the dead don't know, then the living
1:25:07
do. Yeah, and the
1:25:09
service too, like the service is very
1:25:11
private. It's not televised. In
1:25:14
this moment, the family decides not
1:25:16
to invite Fadi Fawaz. But
1:25:19
he shows up anyway. Like
1:25:21
the service is set to start,
1:25:23
the doors swing open, Fadi Fawaz
1:25:25
swaggers in with a pair of
1:25:28
aviator sunglasses on. He
1:25:30
will not be excluded. And they let
1:25:32
him stay. Kenny, on the other hand,
1:25:34
is invited to be a pallbearer. What
1:25:37
do you think about that? It's clear that the
1:25:39
family doesn't like Fadi. Like the family has a
1:25:41
sort of favored member
1:25:43
of George's sexual
1:25:45
life or past, and it's Kenny.
1:25:47
Like after George's death, Fadi is
1:25:50
living in the London house. He's
1:25:52
not at Goring. He's in the
1:25:54
London house. And Fadi
1:25:56
says that George has told him, you can
1:25:58
stay in this house. for it, like
1:26:00
even if after I'm gone, this house is yours.
1:26:03
But he's not in the will. Yeah, I get
1:26:05
it in writing folks. There's a question
1:26:07
of like, would he be have been a common law spouse
1:26:10
in other jurisdictions in the in, for example,
1:26:12
in the US or in Canada, but
1:26:14
in the UK, somebody
1:26:16
in that kind of conjugal relationship isn't
1:26:19
entitled to what we
1:26:21
would call the matrimonial home in as
1:26:25
inheritance. And so
1:26:28
the family says, you don't have a claim
1:26:30
to this house and eventually send a
1:26:33
bailiff to forcibly remove him. I
1:26:36
should also say that his
1:26:38
estate is valued at this time at around
1:26:40
95 million pounds. In
1:26:42
the will, the money mostly goes to
1:26:44
his family, in particular, his sisters, he's
1:26:46
got two sisters. But he
1:26:48
says that his art should be sold
1:26:51
and the money should be donated to charities. He
1:26:54
gives a list of other other charities and
1:26:56
people that he would like to say receive
1:26:59
some money. But he's not specific. He
1:27:01
says, I trust my sister Melanie to decide on
1:27:04
the distribution. But Fadi is
1:27:06
not on the list. This is
1:27:08
the kind of height of Twitter, right? 2016,
1:27:10
2017. So Fadi is on Twitter and
1:27:13
his first messages after George's death are
1:27:15
like, I'm heartbroken. I'm never going to
1:27:17
be the same. I
1:27:19
loved him. You know, I will
1:27:21
never I will never have a happy Christmas after
1:27:23
this messages like that. And then he
1:27:26
starts sending these messages out that say, I hate
1:27:28
you, George. And he sends
1:27:30
messages out purporting to
1:27:33
reveal secrets. And
1:27:35
he's later going to renounce those messages and say even
1:27:37
that his Twitter was hacked, I don't know. But
1:27:40
things like George had
1:27:42
five or six suicide attempts and this
1:27:44
last one was finally successful and
1:27:47
that George had HIV. And
1:27:50
of course, this is also somebody who's
1:27:52
in the midst of grieving and who's
1:27:54
sad and also is being
1:27:56
evicted from his house, which is what happens.
1:27:59
He after he. is removed
1:28:01
from the house in London. He spends
1:28:03
some time in a low-rent
1:28:06
hotel hostel kind of situation
1:28:08
and then at least
1:28:11
some time living on the streets in London.
1:28:13
He's living in his car, he eventually sells
1:28:15
his car because he's trying to get money
1:28:17
to move on to his next thing. In
1:28:21
the James Gavin biography the
1:28:23
last glimpse we have of
1:28:26
Fadi is it's nighttime and
1:28:28
he's in one of the Tony neighborhoods
1:28:31
in London with a hammer and
1:28:33
he's smashing the windshields of cars
1:28:35
as he passes. And
1:28:37
then Fadi's tweets
1:28:40
disappear like he had there's no
1:28:42
tweets since 2019 and
1:28:44
he fades from public memory. Well
1:28:46
I hope he's okay. I mean what do
1:28:48
you think about the reliability of the stuff
1:28:51
that he's saying? How do you read
1:28:53
that personally? I can see in those
1:28:55
tweets that he is trying to say
1:28:57
the most hurtful thing possible and
1:29:00
also is it hurtful
1:29:02
and true or hurtful and
1:29:05
untrue? That I can't tell. If he
1:29:07
had been kind of like smart and
1:29:09
together about it he would have approached
1:29:11
a British tabloid and
1:29:13
said I knew he was HIV positive
1:29:16
or I knew this was a suicide attempt
1:29:18
and sold the story for some amount of money and
1:29:22
releasing this on Twitter means that the next
1:29:24
day all the tabloids get to report it
1:29:26
for free. And I don't know like I'm not I'm not
1:29:28
trying to say that that Fadi Fawaz was
1:29:31
a saint or a martyr. Everybody's
1:29:33
relationships are a mystery. We're always
1:29:35
on the outside of them. My
1:29:39
own relationships are a mystery you
1:29:41
know it doesn't even have to
1:29:43
be someone else's relationship. We know
1:29:45
that there were happy times like
1:29:48
and we know that there were periods where they
1:29:50
were fighting. Also most people
1:29:53
fight and sometimes that's like
1:29:55
just a normal part of a of
1:29:58
the relationship and sometimes it's awful
1:30:00
and abusive and I don't know in this and
1:30:02
you know what I mean? It's like it's outside
1:30:04
of my realm of
1:30:07
visibility So my favorite thing about
1:30:09
this show is that this is a place where we
1:30:11
can bravely, you know Step up
1:30:13
to the soapbox and say I don't
1:30:15
know a relationship Can
1:30:17
be bad or good and we just
1:30:19
can't know it from the outside, you know
1:30:21
Sometimes we have enough material but often we
1:30:24
don't and I love This
1:30:26
being the show where we don't know things and where
1:30:28
we celebrate not knowing and it's like it's
1:30:31
easy to say George's Relationship
1:30:33
with and Salmo was the love of his
1:30:35
life and it you know, it was pure.
1:30:37
It was kind of like undiluted in a
1:30:39
way But also
1:30:41
like his relationship with Kenny, you know
1:30:43
long long-term
1:30:46
stable loving secure
1:30:49
and Then I also think
1:30:51
about his relation his even shorter-term relationships the
1:30:53
relationships with the guys that he picked up
1:30:55
in the gay bars or Picked
1:30:57
up in the bathrooms his shrubbery
1:30:59
relationships Well, right I mean
1:31:02
what he describes in that in that
1:31:04
quote from earlier is that there were
1:31:06
like bonfires and parties and he had
1:31:08
friends up There that it's like in
1:31:10
a way. It's not necessarily a relationship with
1:31:13
a single person but with a community of
1:31:15
people and I kind
1:31:18
of like the idea that
1:31:20
maybe the his relationship with
1:31:23
Strangers was the most
1:31:25
enduring relationship of all Well
1:31:39
Marcus if people want to learn
1:31:41
more about George Michael and related
1:31:43
topics What
1:31:45
books do you recommend? I
1:31:48
I've consulted a number of his biographies I
1:31:50
would say probably the best
1:31:53
and most complete is the James Gavin
1:31:55
biography The best short
1:31:57
biography is the Rob Yovanovik
1:31:59
books I would say. But there's
1:32:01
other good biographies out there. There's one by Robert
1:32:03
Steele, one by Sean Smith. Andrew
1:32:06
Ridgeley wrote a memoir about his time
1:32:08
in WAM. And if
1:32:10
you're interested in thinking more about the
1:32:12
law and culture of cruising, you can
1:32:15
pick up my book, Park
1:32:17
Cruising, What Happens When We Wander Off the Path.
1:32:20
And I'm so excited for
1:32:22
your book. I think this is such
1:32:24
a wonderful area to learn more about,
1:32:26
and also an important ethic, you know,
1:32:29
as we think about how
1:32:31
do we build the societies and the
1:32:33
communities that we're missing and that we're
1:32:35
so starved for in modern life. And
1:32:38
maybe get in the shrubbery. And
1:32:47
that is our episode. Thank you.
1:32:50
Thank you so much for being with
1:32:52
us today. Thank you
1:32:54
to Marcus McCann for being
1:32:56
our wonderful guest. Marcus
1:32:59
is again the author of Park
1:33:01
Cruising, What Happens When We Wander Off
1:33:03
the Path. And we were so lucky
1:33:05
to have him. It was such a pleasure working
1:33:07
with you, Marcus. Thank you
1:33:09
so much, as ever, to Carl
1:33:12
and Kendrick for producing and for bringing
1:33:14
these stories to our ears. Thank
1:33:16
you to Colin Fleming for editing help.
1:33:18
Thank you to you for listening. We'll
1:33:21
see you in two weeks.
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