Really intriguing look into the transformational effect of the internet on celebrity through the lens of pastors building megachurches. The podcast explores topics such as sermons being adapted to be artificially emotional for TikTok engagement, whether any young person can handle the immediate power/status the internet can bring, and if the end (a flourishing church) can justify the means (an abusive pastor). My only complaint is that it's a bit too much content to consume and stay engaged.

Fairly unstructured and a bit all over the place, but I get the feeling this is a very historical interview, the equivalent of Einstein casually discussing old wars

This was basically perfect in every way. They got all the right interviews to stitch together the story as it unfolded