This may be an unpopular opinion, but I decided to give this podcast a second chance, listened to about 5 old and new episodes, and I just can't get into it. Listening feels like when you're in that friend group where everyone keeps interrupting each other after every sentence to go off on yet another tangent, most of which are off topic - except that you aren't actually a part of the friend group and aren't a part of the conversation. The longer it goes on the more you want them to just get on with it and get to the point.
I came back here after listening to two of the hosts guest on another podcast, where they were so eloquent, where every single thing they said was extremely knowledgeable, thought-provoking, and fascinating. I now think that that was more a reflection of that podcast's host's ability to moderate the conversation, and without him, maybe half an hour is nuanced discussion, and the other hour of an episode is (imo) not-funny banter.