Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff is a psychologist known for researching the relationship between race and policing in the United States.
Activists have been calling for the dismantling of police for years, but it has gained traction since the killing of George Floyd. Many people of color don't feel protected by the police and believe Americans can survive without law enforcement as we know it. Phillip Atiba Goff, co-founder and CEO of the Center for Policing Equity, joins CBS News' Jeff Pegues to discuss what it would mean to defund the police and where the funds could be reallocated. Plus, Goff explains why the issue goes beyond policing and that this moment of protest should serve as an opportunity to rethink what it means to have safe communities and to reinvest in the communities that have been long abandoned.
In a moment where we’re arguing about the future of the police the perfect person to talk to is Dr. Phillip Goff. He’s a PhD, a professor at John Jay, and the head of the Center for Policing Equity. He’s a guy who studies policing and comes in and helps clean up departments. We talk about what’s wrong with American policing and how he thinks we can fix it.Patreon.com/toureshowInstagram @toureshow Twitter: @toure Toure Show Ep 147Host & Writer: ToureSenior Producer: Jackie GarofanoAssistant Producer: Adell ColemanEditor: Ryan WoodhallPhotographers: Chuck Marcus and Shanta CovingtonBooker: Claudia JeanThe House: DCP Entertainment  See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
Featuring Dr. Bernice King, CEO of the King Center and daughter of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.; Rashad Robinson, President of Color of Change; Anthony Romero, Executive Director of the ACLU; and Dr. Phillip Atiba Goff, CEO of the Center for Policing Equity. The killing of George Floyd and other recent police violence against black people in the U.S. has sparked outrage and action the world over. Why is this moment so important, and how can we learn from it to end systemic racism? This virtual conversation is part of TED2020, hosted by head of TED Chris Anderson and current affairs curator Whitney Pennington Rodgers. It was recorded June 3, 2020.
It’s been five years since the high profile shootings of several unarmed black teenagers and men launched the Black Lives Matter movement. Since then, police departments have been doing all kinds of things to respond to the deaths and protests. But do any of them work? To find out we speak with social psychologist Prof. Jennifer Eberhardt, psychologist Prof. Phillip Atiba Goff, public policy expert Dr. David Yokum, criminologists Dr. Lois James, and Dr. Stephen James. Check out the full transcript transcript here: http://bit.ly/2D23jAR Selected references:  Jennifer’s study on respectful language during traffic stops, and her book on implicit bias: http://bit.ly/2XGHobN  Phil’s study on bias and the Las Vegas policy changes: http://bit.ly/2O8Ndf3  David’s study on whether body cameras reduce police use of force: http://bit.ly/2pJj5gU  Credits:This episode was produced by Meryl Horn with help from Wendy Zukerman, along with Rose Rimler, Michelle Dang, Lexi Krupp, and Kaitlyn Sawrey. We’re edited by Caitlin Kenney and Blythe Terrell. Fact checking by Diane Kelly. Mix and sound design by Peter Leonard with help from Cedric Wilson. Music written by Peter Leonard, Benny Reid, Emma Munger, and Bobby Lord. A big thanks to Professor Lawrence Sherman, Dr. Joe Cesario, Dr. Sam Walker, Chuck Wexler, Dr. Peter Moskos, Dennis Flores, Hawk Newsome, Professor William Terrill, Dr. Arne Nieuwenhuys, Professor Franklin Zimring, Dr. Joan Vickers, and Dr. Justin Nix. Thanks to all police officers we spoke to- we really appreciate your help. And special thanks to Amber Davis, Chuma Ossé, Daniel Domke, Christina Djossa, the Zukerman family and Joseph Lavelle Wilson.
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Episode Count
4
Podcast Count
4
Total Airtime
2 hours, 28 minutes