Roger Drummer is a Public Speaker, Tri-Athlete, Diplomate of Chinese herbology, and he holds a U.S. patent for growing biologically active, anthocyanin-rich medicinal mushrooms.
Do you ever wish your brain worked better? That you head better mental clarity and a better memory? Jonna swears by the Herbworks products. Find out what an adaptogen is and how it is different than other supplements. Roger Drummer is a Diplomate of Chinese herbology and holds a U.S. patent for growing biologically active, anthocyanin-rich medicinal mushrooms. Roger’s 27 years of experience as a Chinese herbalist ranges from formulating personalized tonic herb and nutritional programs for tens of thousands clients, teaching and training apprentices in the art of tonic herbalism. Roger has studied a variety of healing modalities including Jin Shin Do, Shiatsu, Pranic Healing, Sat Nam Rasayan, Jin Shin Jitsu and is a Reiki Master. Roger is the co-owner and formulator of, makers of TianChi and Inner Peace. He's been a previous podcast guest on the episodes: -The Zen Of Chinese Adaptogenic Herbs: An Interview With The Inventor Of World’s Most Potent Adaptogens. -The Zen of Chinese Herbs – Everything You Need To Know About How To Boost Your Brain Power With Herbology. -Chinese Medicine & Why Sugars Don’t Add Up Right on Food Labels. In our last email correspondence, Roger informed me that last summer, he had stage 3 bladder cancer, which required bladder and prostate removal along with cutting his colon to make a new bladder bag - a protocol that only has a 20% survival rate at five years. He then highlighted how he eliminated his cancer in five weeks with meditation (including Qi, Tantra, quantum physics and meditation), adaptogenic herbs and a ketogenic diet. He experienced a spontaneous healing - his goal - at five weeks and instantly knew he was cancer free. This has been confirmed in two different biopsies in September and December of this past year. Obviously, I had to get Roger on the podcast to discuss this unique approach, and he obliged. During our discussion, you'll discover: -Why Roger thinks he got stage 3 bladder cancer and prostate removal cancer despite being a very healthy Chinese herbologist... [00:08:30] -How environment, stress, and genetics affect the growth of cancer... [00:13:53] -How Roger eliminated his cancer in 5 weeks with meditation, herbs and a ketogenic diet... [00:24:49] -How Roger utilized something called the glucose-ketone index... [00:27:40] -Roger's anti-cancer blend of berberine, curcumin phytosome, green tea phytosome, boswellia, milk thistle, N-Acetyl Cysteine, ashwaganda, resveratrol, genistein, R-Lipoic acid, and quercetin... [00:33:22] -The new meditation strategy Roger used to defeat his cancer, including Qi, Tantra, and Quantum physics... [00:39:50] -Roger's crazy experience with entering into a "bliss state", even while having cancer... [00:47:33] -Whether Roger used any "biohacks" for mitochondria or other cancer therapies, like hyperbaric oxygen or ozone therapy... [00:54:46] -How Roger used the adaptogenic formulas Tian Chi and Inner Peace into his healing program... [00:30:19] -And much more! [01:09:00] Resources from this episode: -How To Cure Yourself Of Cancer: An Epic Interview With A Man Who Defied Conventional Medicine & Cured Himself Of Prostate Cancer -Part 2: The Official Q&A On How To Cure Yourself Of Cancer – An Epic Interview With A Man Who Defied Conventional Medicine & Cured Himself Of Prostate Cancer -Why You’ve Been Lied To About Cancer And What You Can Do About It -The Mold-Cancer Link, Resetting Your Nervous System, Dry Fasting, Nanonutrients & More With Ian Clark -336: How Low Can Your Body Fat Go, The New “Red Meat Causes Cancer” Study, Five Ways To Know If Your Heart Is Healthy -318: How Artificial Light Makes You Fat, Does Red Meat Really Cause Cancer, The Best Grip For Pull-Ups & More! -Do Muscle Building Supplements Really Cause Cancer? -299: Does A Vegetarian Diet Reduce Sperm Count, Cell Phones And Brain Cancer, What Is A Good “HRV” Number & More! -Why You Get Cancer And What You Can Do About It -Did Lebron James’ Cell Phone Give Him Mouth Cancer? -248: Does Fish Oil Cause Prostate Cancer, Is Milk Healthy, Are Body Fat Scales Accurate & More! -Episode #128: He Healed His Mom’s Cancer Using Diet, Nutrition & Detox…And He’s On This Audio Episode -Berberine -Curcumin phytosome -Green tea phytosome -Boswellia -Milk thistle -N-Acetyl Cysteine -Ashwaganda -Resveratrol -Genistein -R-Lipoic acid -Quercetin -TianChi -Inner Peace -Tripping over the Truth The Metabolic Theory of Cancer -GreenMedInfo's research on cancer -Book: Adaptogens in Medical Herbalism: Elite Herbs and Natural Compounds for Mastering Stress, Aging, and Chronic Disease -Kriya Yoga -Autobiography of a Yogi -Books by Joe DiSpenza (including Breaking The Habit Of Being Yourself) -Book: Quantum Doctor, The: A Quantum Physicist Explains the Healing Power of Integral Medicine  -Book: The Second Coming of Christ: The Resurrection of the Christ Within You -My article with Dr. Johnathan Edwards "A Surgeon’s Little-Known Secret to Biohacking Your Body With Oxygen Therapy" -22-day study in mice that looked at the differences between the ketogenic diet and other diets -Study in mice that tested the ketogenic diet with or without hyperbaric oxygen therapy -Study that monitored tumor growth in response to a high-carb versus a ketogenic diet in 27 patients with cancer of the digestive tract -Study showing three out of five patients on a ketogenic diet combined with radiation or chemo experienced complete remission Sponsors for this episode: -DailyBurn - -GainsWave - -HealthIQ - -Molekule - and use promo code BEN Do you have questions, thoughts or feedback for Roger or me? Leave your comments at and one of us will reply!
In this special new episode, Dr. George Lamoureux and John interview an amazing fellow herbalist, Roger Drummer. Roger is an educator, product formulator and certified grower of medicinal mushrooms. Their connection with Roger goes way back and they are excited to share some of his incredible wisdom with you.  During this interview, Roger shares with you how he first got into tonic herbs when he was healing from chronic fatigue. Roger had some really interesting experiences with herbs which showed him their transformative power. Learn which herbs had this powerful effect and inspired him to change his life!  Roger also is an expert in the field of stress and it’s fascinating to listen to him talk about the relationship between stress and health and how adaptogens support the body’s own healing process. He also goes into the difference between vitamins and adaptogens and which situations call for each. Finally, if you or someone you love has experienced any kind of trauma, this podcast is crucial to hear to get Roger’s perspective on dealing with this important health issue. Visit now! Find out how your Three Treasures are doing at  Ask us something at!
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