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and welcome to the Abroad in Japan podcast. Probably the best
1:29
way of learning about life in Japan. I
1:43
think we're both languishing in a terrible
1:46
hair island of problems, I
1:48
think. Yeah, it's because it's very
1:50
early for me. I don't mind
1:52
admitting I'm not in a shower yet because it is six
1:54
o'clock in the morning. So it's difficult
1:56
to get... I'm
1:59
not getting up at like quarter... I'm not going to get
2:01
up quarter to six Chris, for the Rod
2:03
Fabb podcast. I'll get up at five to
2:05
six and then I'll have a shower afterwards. But
2:07
yeah, I just feel like I'm letting everyone
2:09
down with how
2:12
my appearance is rocking. But I think
2:14
you look pretty good. I'm
2:17
very much enjoying this kind of pompadour kind
2:19
of look at the front of your hair. I think
2:21
you could get in the old double denim and be
2:23
one of those greasers that you see in
2:26
Yoyogi Park. You could have a little dance
2:29
to some rock and roll. I
2:31
think that looks pretty cool. There
2:34
was a reason we never switched the
2:36
podcast to having videos on until a year
2:38
ago. That's because I could
2:40
look like crap and it would be fine,
2:42
right? You just wouldn't see it. And now
2:44
you know how bad the rabbit hole goes.
2:46
How awful my hair is. Birthday
2:49
hair nonetheless. Check this out there. A good
2:51
friend just came over from Japan, brought me
2:54
Nando's Perry Perry Sauce for those of you
2:56
on YouTube. Big bottle there. I'll
2:58
describe it for those of you that aren't
3:00
watching on YouTube. It's a big bottle
3:03
and it's got Nando's Perry Perry written on
3:05
it. And it's medium spice because I can't
3:08
handle my spice. And it goes very well
3:10
with chicken. And the
3:13
second thing are these cola bottle sweets.
3:15
It's called Cola Up. And
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they're cola bottle gummy sweets. And
3:19
my friend bought these while he was here. And
3:22
they left them in the studio. And now I will polish
3:24
them off like a dog who
3:26
has been left hungry. I will finish the
3:28
cola bottle. In the sauce. In
3:31
the sauce. Perry
3:34
Perry cola bottles. Come on, get involved. And
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what I like about Nando's is
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like rich people go there. Like
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rich like multi-million billion pound footballers
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go. And
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it's also me. You
3:49
know what I mean? Like it's not like
3:51
a fancy place that only fancy people go
3:53
to. It's kind of like,
3:55
you'll never see like a football in McDonald's necessarily. But
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maybe it's because like Nando's are quite. healthy. There
4:01
are a lot of healthy options, there's a
4:03
lot of protein in there. But yeah, I
4:06
just think that it's so cool that like, everybody
4:08
goes, everyone goes to Nando's. It's pretty
4:11
good food. Everyone goes to
4:13
Nando's. It's good, yeah. Chris, I'm
4:15
going to stick a, I did a quick
4:17
screenshot while you were doing that intro. And
4:20
I found that what I like doing is
4:23
going on YouTube and just seeing your
4:25
reviews. My reviews. We were
4:28
talking about reviews on the last one.
4:30
And there's some certain people who like,
4:32
will just clip anything
4:34
that you or Connor does. If Connor
4:36
does like a live stream, someone will
4:39
be waiting with some kind of capture
4:41
software, Bandicam or
4:44
something. And remember Bandicam?
4:46
Like it's what dads use to capture
4:48
stuff on the internet. Bandicam, it's everywhere.
4:52
But they'll capture like little clips and stuff and then they'll
4:54
put it up. And we've spoken about these guys before
4:56
and they're like, they do little odd
4:58
clips and stuff. Yeah, little clippers and clip, clip, clip,
5:00
clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, clip, and presumably
5:02
make a bit of cash out of it. But I
5:04
very much enjoyed this shot of you and Pete,
5:07
probably to Pete, on the
5:09
road, finding out for the first time that
5:11
you just raised a million dollars. And
5:15
I'm going to put it onto the
5:17
screen here. There we go. Yeah. It
5:20
looks like you've been caught. It looks
5:22
like you've been caught in like a sting. It
5:25
looks like you've
5:27
been caught embezzling money.
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A million dollars, really?
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Because we're out
5:33
in front of like a Lawson store.
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Yeah. It looks like we've been caught
5:37
right now. It's very enjoyable. Very much.
5:39
Very enjoyable. I like, I like you
5:41
being, I like, because obviously when you
5:43
do your screenshots and you do your
5:45
artwork, obviously you spend a
5:48
bit of time on it, but when
5:50
somebody else reinterprets your work, it's usually
5:52
dreadful. It is. One
5:54
million dollars off, no. So
5:57
many things got clipped on that journey.
5:59
Yeah. every day there was like 500 clips these
6:03
brain children with the water cannon at
6:05
lego land falling off the bike much
6:07
tenacity delight yeah lots
6:10
of fun moments clipped on
6:13
the cycle oh man that's
6:15
how i watch, that's how i experience most of your
6:17
content Chris i just watch the little clips and they
6:19
go yeah they've got the good stuff, they've got Conor
6:21
putting his mobile phone in a weird place yeah that's
6:24
all i need don't watch
6:26
the slick edited production watch the traffic
6:28
clips the little bits and bobs yeah
6:31
i don't envy Paul our
6:33
cameraman he's currently editing that cycle can
6:36
you imagine 40 days of footage to condense
6:38
into like 90 minutes of fun
6:41
don't envy him, don't envy him but good
6:43
luck to him, if anyone could do it it's Paul he's
6:46
the man, he could do it, we've got a story
6:48
this week from Zoe and uh... Kayle? Kayle?
6:50
or Carl A? Kayle
6:52
isn't it? alright good day Carl
6:55
A? Carl A? Kayle? good
6:57
day crocodile Chris and Prawn P here's a little recap
6:59
of something we experienced on one of our recent trips
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to Japan we were on this cozy train to
7:03
the dinosaur museum in Fukui lovely old
7:06
place, as we were sitting there enjoying the sights i
7:08
could feel somebody staring at me and
7:11
i've got this feeling like some bird
7:13
is there, coming across this uh... sorry
7:15
there, across from us sat
7:17
a little old lady just staring right at
7:19
us just staring and just as we were
7:21
about to get off our station the lady
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grabs me by the shoulder and opens my
7:25
hands and places places
7:28
a wad of small lollipops into
7:30
my palm i was
7:32
in complete shock or was politely
7:34
trying to nod my head and
7:36
stumbling out an arigato she just
7:39
smiled, nodded and walked away when
7:42
we looked at the lollipops we realized
7:44
that half of them were unwrapped and
7:46
more worryingly my husband's like, oh god
7:48
couldn't work out if they were half
7:50
sucked it was such a
7:52
hilarious and confusing moment for us we
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stood there on the platform just staring at each
7:57
other at these puzzled looks on our faces Were
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they just floating around in their handbag for 47 years?
8:03
Did some of the packaging just disintegrate?
8:05
Did she appreciate us visiting her beautiful
8:07
town to the point she wanted to
8:09
bestow upon us an odd collection of
8:11
sweets? It was just another
8:13
one of those random odd experiences we've
8:16
had on our travels to Japan. Kyra
8:18
with her guards, Zary and Kale from
8:21
Gold Coast. But did they eat
8:23
them? Did you eat them guys? Yeah. What
8:25
a clever man you had to end it on. That's the
8:27
bit of the story we're not getting. We spoke
8:29
about last week pretty much every new story
8:31
that comes in is like a side quest
8:34
from a video game. I wouldn't continue on
8:36
that side quest. I wouldn't 100% that game
8:38
sucking on a horrible
8:40
lolly that's been in someone's bag. I
8:43
would have loved a cheeky bill
8:45
and then Kale just popped
8:47
it in his mouth and it tasted
8:49
like Nando's puri-buri sauce and it raised
8:52
more questions. Oh, that's not normal.
8:54
It tastes like a little baby's bag. Actually
8:57
disgusting. Don't know
8:59
what was going on there. I
9:02
was walking through Tokyo yesterday.
9:04
I did a 20,000 step
9:06
walk yesterday, gave me. My
9:08
legs haven't recovered. Time to finish them off
9:10
again. They're a 20,000 step walk
9:13
and I was walking from Yanaka Ginza,
9:15
which is a retro nice little
9:17
street with lots of cats in it. And
9:20
I was going all the way to Owene, which has
9:22
a zoo. And in the middle,
9:24
I was walking through the cemetery, Yanaka Ginza Cemetery,
9:26
which is actually really nice. Last
9:29
time I was there was for the documentary Cat Nation,
9:32
where there were just cats. I
9:34
was tasked with spending two hours looking
9:37
through the cemetery for feral cats for
9:39
the documentary. I don't know
9:41
why I said yes to that documentary. Anyway, while
9:43
walking, this Japanese guy walked up to me and
9:46
my friend was like, why are you here? What
9:48
are you doing in the cemetery? Why would you come
9:51
here? And I was like, it's just a nice stroll
9:54
from Yanaka Ginza. And
9:56
he was like, I just don't understand why foreigners
9:58
would want to do that. to walk here. That's
10:01
a nice, nice stroll isn't it? William Shatner. It
10:03
was really weird, yeah, it was like, I
10:06
thought he was doing some genuine market research but I think
10:08
he was just a English
10:11
fluent Japanese guy who wanted to
10:13
ask why the foreigners
10:15
were stumbling through a cemetery. How beautiful. Why are
10:17
you in the cemetery, big man? Why
10:19
are you asking people why are you in the cemetery?
10:22
You're always here, I've only visited once. Why
10:24
are you in the cemetery son? I mean,
10:26
what was he expecting? I've come here to dig up a
10:28
grave, isn't it? Just go and dig up a grave. Yeah,
10:31
I'm going to just put a little
10:33
book in there. I've come here to
10:35
distribute my books on, in
10:38
and around the cemetery. What
10:41
did I think I was doing? Honestly, I
10:43
was strolling clearly. I
10:46
was, I was, I'm always in a
10:48
cemetery and with my dogs. My, one
10:51
of my dogs, the little Baba, one
10:54
year old, Bonetaria, will, if there's
10:56
a puddle, he will
10:58
start drinking out of it because even
11:00
though I give him like pure crystal,
11:02
beautiful water in his doggy
11:05
bowl, he very much decides that he
11:07
just wants to drink the dirtiest puddle
11:09
around. But it is sometimes on, on
11:12
and in the graves and you're
11:14
like, body soup. He's
11:17
so disrespectful and he'll, he'll
11:19
weigh against the gravestone. Come
11:22
on, have some respect. But it is
11:24
a nice, but then I always sort of think, yeah,
11:26
it is disrespectful, but then also there will be a
11:28
lot of dog lovers in that graveyard. And if
11:30
I was in a graveyard, I would like
11:32
a dog too. We are my gravestone. I
11:34
wouldn't care. I'd have loved it. Why
11:37
are you in the graveyard? I've come to lick the
11:39
puddles. Yeah. We could
11:41
drink the, the, the hops
11:43
puddles. I'd
11:45
love to go back and find all
11:48
these kind of stories there of these most
11:50
bizarre encounters and just make a book like
11:53
101 bizarre encounters in
11:55
Japan. I just wonder
11:58
what the lady was thinking. I know what they want. I
12:00
know what those two Australian foreigners need.
12:02
They need a lollipop that's been half
12:04
eaten in my purse for 52 years.
12:08
Anyway, they were going to Fukui,
12:10
they were going to the Dinosaur
12:12
Fossil Museum, they got to eat
12:14
some fossils. Swings around about.
12:17
4D experience. New story, what's
12:19
going on though, this week in Japan, Mr.
12:21
Donaldson Philison on the news of the week.
12:24
We spoke about the AI pin
12:27
that helped you solve problems, oh
12:29
she made it by the YouTube
12:31
guy Marcus Brownie. But can
12:33
AI help solve Japan's labour
12:35
shortages? No. Shrinking
12:38
population, no one's fucking nate, no
12:40
babies arriving. Which means that
12:42
Japan has a shortage of workers now. Many are
12:44
hoping that artificial intelligence can help pick up the
12:47
slack in a country that's known to be
12:49
obsessed with perfection. Damaged or
12:51
misshapen vegetables and fruits are
12:53
hard to sell. One geosa
12:55
manufacturer named Osaka Osho
12:58
found a huge surge in demand during Covid
13:01
but struggled to keep the quality up. The
13:03
idea of selling a damaged pack is unthinkable
13:05
to the Japanese company. To help them
13:07
maintain the quality whilst still keeping up with demand,
13:09
they turned to technology using AI powered cameras
13:11
trained to detect any faulty geosa on
13:13
the production lines. Today this
13:16
facility makes two dumplings per
13:18
second. Whoa. Two dumplings
13:20
per second, sorry my stomach's rumbling. As
13:23
soon as I talk about my misshapen geosa,
13:25
the misshapen geosa that is my stomach started
13:27
making a noise. This facility
13:29
makes two dumplings every second. That's twice
13:31
the speed of their other
13:34
non-AI based production sites. By
13:36
implementing AI, says Keiko Handa, that
13:39
we have reduced the manpower on the manufacturing line
13:42
by almost 30%. The
13:44
firm has also recently launched an AI
13:46
powered cooking robot called iRobo at one
13:48
of its Tokyo restaurants. As it
13:50
takes time to turn the chefs, the company says
13:53
the technology will help with the labour shortage issue.
13:55
I guess Chris you've talked about
13:57
like over employment quite a few times. few times
13:59
and there are like a lot of jobs where
14:01
you sort of go you don't need
14:03
to do that a light could do you observe
14:05
you don't mind me saying like people just sort
14:08
of like alert people that
14:10
a truck is coming out of a underground
14:12
car park you know I mean those kind of guys
14:15
with the with the lights on the sticks and stuff you
14:17
do sort of go right that could probably be done by
14:19
computer and so you do sort of
14:21
think that maybe just that those guys with the sticks
14:23
and just be moved on to the geos or production
14:25
line I don't know I don't know wonders
14:28
I still I mean this is that
14:30
AI used in computing yeah Sean that's
14:33
a great use I'm still not sold
14:35
on like physical robots outside of like
14:37
manufacturing things like cars and
14:39
like on a mass scale I yeah
14:41
whenever I see like a robot chef
14:44
I'm still like no it's not there
14:46
yet it's not happening no I don't
14:48
want it don't want I'm not convinced
14:50
but exactly because you want you want
14:53
your chef to be tasting stuff don't you you want your
14:55
chef to be kind of like trying stuff
14:57
to make sure it's okay I'm
14:59
not convinced and and the
15:02
geosa AI solution I mean what does
15:04
it what does the geosa AI solution
15:06
when it sees a misshapen geosa what
15:08
does it do does it like it like attack it
15:11
with a laser or something I'm worried that there'll be
15:13
a person who looks so much who's got a disfigured
15:15
face who look more like a
15:17
geosa and he'll be attacked by the AI
15:19
geosa identifying drones I'm just I'm just
15:22
I'm worried I'm worried Chris it's a
15:25
genuine the whole shrinking workforce
15:27
scenario is a genuine problem you know
15:29
I can't believe the current populations 124
15:32
million when I first came here I think it
15:34
was 128 million
15:36
so it's dropping quite quickly and
15:38
you certainly know this
15:41
yeah like convenience stores and things that
15:44
most convenience stores in Tokyo now or in
15:46
big cities are run
15:48
and sort of operated by foreign
15:51
workers maybe from Southeast Asia
15:53
actually yeah yeah so you've got there's
15:55
been some big changes and yeah I
15:58
think Do
16:00
you think Japan needs to be better
16:02
at self-checkouts? Like, I feel like we've
16:04
adopted that in the UK in
16:06
a way that's a lot more effective and
16:09
efficient than they have here. I don't know
16:11
why self-checkouts aren't as
16:13
widespread here. There was a...
16:15
speaking of self-checkouts, I was using the self-checkout
16:18
in a shop near Tesco's near
16:20
my place. And the security
16:23
guard kept looking at me
16:25
and I was like, oh, can't
16:27
do any shopping. You look like
16:29
Colonel Sanders. Of course he was looking at
16:32
you. That guy's buying chicken. The
16:35
security guard was looking at me while I
16:37
was in the shop and I was like,
16:39
ahh, what have I done, what have I
16:41
done, I'm not dying, I can't steal anything.
16:43
This time. But
16:46
it was a person called Yuki who
16:49
listens to the show. I think listens or maybe
16:51
watches your stuff. But yeah, we
16:53
had a lovely conversation but it just made me laugh
16:55
that it was like, oh, I thought you were following
16:57
me around the shop because I was stealing.
16:59
I was stealing. Ali,
17:02
let you off. Let me off.
17:04
Come on, give me some free petrol. I
17:06
need some petrol. Daddy needs petrol. I've got
17:08
a V12. It's very expensive. Yeah,
17:11
so that was quite funny. To
17:13
be fair, your Toyota probably gets
17:15
you more petrol than a VA
17:17
engine. Correct. I
17:20
would say that on that same day
17:22
as well when I met Yuki, before I
17:25
was in a cafe in a
17:28
park and this lad said,
17:31
oh you Pete. He was working behind
17:34
the bar in this cafe and he said,
17:36
yeah, yeah, yeah. I
17:38
said hello. And then I left and
17:40
then Sarah said right after, completely unrelated
17:42
me meeting him. He'd fed
17:44
it. Oh my God. I was
17:47
like, Sarah, am I the Beatles? Am
17:49
I Elvis Presley? You
17:51
made somebody funny. Unrelated
17:53
to meeting me, but I think
17:56
it was a hot day, but it just
17:58
made me laugh. I was like, Sarah, am I? Am
18:00
I the Beatles? Because the thing about Sarah
18:02
is like Sarah's got like we both had we
18:04
both like I had a radio job and
18:06
Sarah has a radio job. And
18:08
so everybody wants to hear about Sarah's job and
18:10
nobody wants to hear about mine. Oh, second field
18:12
option. And I get and I get and I
18:14
yeah and I sort of go oh I used
18:16
to have I used to have a
18:18
same job as Sarah and no one's to talk to me
18:21
about my job. But on moments like that when
18:23
I technically make a person faint I think
18:25
I'd have to make. I didn't make anyone
18:27
faint. They get heavier, making
18:29
people faint. I'm a
18:31
very old mate. The barometer for success,
18:33
how many people are fainted at my presence. I
18:37
mean when I was actually straight after the cemetery
18:39
running with the man he was perplexed
18:41
by my presence in the cemetery. I
18:44
ran into a lovely North American
18:46
couple and they looked a bit, they
18:48
were like, is that you Chris? And
18:51
they like froze and like just looked
18:53
like they'd been hit by a truck
18:55
and it's like something. It's
18:58
amazing people approach you and then when you
19:00
say hello they sort of freeze up and panic. It's
19:03
like don't worry. I'm not going to eat you. Not
19:05
yet anyway. You aren't family. But
19:11
yeah I worry about these geoser inspector AI
19:13
robots. What if they become sentient
19:15
and they see us all as misshapen geoser?
19:18
Will they come for us? Will they take us away? Will
19:20
they discard us? I mean there must be
19:22
someone in the world who looks more like geos than anyone else. You
19:25
know what I mean? It's like someone said there must be
19:27
someone in the world who's eaten more crisps than anyone else.
19:30
I'd be sure to be. I'd just polish them up by
19:32
a whole pack of kettle chips. I was
19:34
all first in line for that. Someone's
19:36
eaten more crisps than everyone else. Someone's eaten
19:38
more chips than everyone else in the world.
19:41
There must be someone who's done that. So you
19:43
sort of think well there must
19:45
be one person who looks like a
19:48
geo as well. Come on
19:50
then. I want
19:52
to meet them. I want to find them. I'll
19:54
be yellow skin. Bloody
19:58
hell. We'll be back in just a minute guys. Follow
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Mr. Dawson. You look
22:40
a yoser, man. Get in touch. Dear
22:42
colorful Chris and pastel Pete, this is
22:44
Nick from sunny San Diego. Excuse
22:46
me. I recently returned from my
22:48
first solo trip to Japan, and while the trip
22:50
was amazing, there was one issue. My anxiety was
22:52
through the roof. Now, I've never been an anxious
22:55
person before, so this is very surprising to me.
22:57
Seeing as the reason for my trip was that
22:59
I wanted to eventually teach English in Japan, what
23:02
has been your experience dealing with anxiety like this?
23:04
I know you mentioned being terrified when you first
23:06
moved to Japan, but you never went into
23:08
much detail. All the best, Nick from sunny San
23:10
Diego. Chris, anxiety.
23:13
Tips? Any
23:15
kind of ways
23:18
to alleviate any stress? Well,
23:21
it's a tough thing, really. I mean, I
23:23
find I mostly
23:25
got over anxiety. Just
23:28
before the cyclothon, I
23:31
started feeling really anxious. I had quite a few
23:33
panic attacky moments that were a bit scary.
23:36
I haven't had that in years. I
23:38
was trying to wonder why am I having it now, and
23:41
it was staring me in the face. It was like,
23:43
oh yeah, I'm going to cycle for two weeks across
23:45
Japan in front of 30,000 people.
23:48
Of course I'm a bit nervous. I
23:51
mean, I don't want to give out professional advice
23:54
to folks dealing with anxiety. I will
23:56
say, if you can, get
23:58
help from a professional. something I
24:00
never did in Japan because I just don't
24:02
think they really know how to deal with
24:04
anxiety over here. I
24:07
remember a friend of a friend was
24:10
having depression and they all went to the
24:12
doctor and the
24:14
doctor was like, you should be
24:16
more happy. And it's like, oh,
24:18
yes, it's a problem it's solved,
24:21
thank goodness. So yeah, Japan's
24:24
not great for it. I mean,
24:26
I always maintain that finding
24:31
stone stone philosophy always helped me. And
24:34
yes, stone philosophy really did help
24:36
me. I should make a video on it. I
24:39
haven't done it much. The first, the first
24:41
rule of stonicism is you don't really talk about
24:43
it much, because you're not there
24:45
to preach about it. It's something you just process and
24:47
you deal with it and you find
24:49
ways to fit it into your life. And
24:52
it's not like a religion. And that's why
24:54
stonicism died out 2000 years
24:56
ago. Because all the people
24:58
that learned here, Marcus Aurelius,
25:01
all these famous incredible people
25:03
just sort of kept it to themselves,
25:06
because you don't preach about it. And
25:08
Christianity swept in and buried it all.
25:10
And yeah, it's unfortunate, we really should
25:13
preach about it more. Maybe I might give it a day,
25:15
but yeah, get professional help. Try
25:17
and just remember that anxiety
25:20
is worrying about things 90% of the
25:22
time that don't happen.
25:24
I think 99% of the time. I
25:27
was the last time I was really anxious was
25:29
at the end of the cycle, going up the
25:32
hill to the crowd of waiting people, 400 people,
25:35
I was quite nervous. And I
25:38
don't even know what I was nervous about people,
25:40
you know, Connor and people
25:42
like, why nervous? Why do I have
25:44
this? I'm like, I don't know. That's
25:46
the thing, right? Maybe I was nervous
25:48
about walking up the hill, this big
25:51
moment of victory, 60,000 people
25:53
watching online, 300 people there waiting.
25:55
And we just go, yeah, then falling over
25:57
and smashing into the ground. That's
26:00
the thing, I don't know. I don't know what there is. It's
26:03
worrying about things that don't happen and it went
26:05
perfectly well. So just remember that. That's
26:09
the secret. But we got
26:11
one here from Connor who says, I'm
26:13
not Sea Dog VA, very good. I
26:16
didn't know there was more than one person with
26:18
the name Connor in the world. Dear Chris and
26:20
Pete, I'll be visiting family in Okinawa in 2024
26:23
and I'm excited to return as I haven't been
26:25
back to Japan since my first trip in 2007.
26:29
My question is, have either of you eaten any
26:31
traditional Okinawan cuisine? And if so, which
26:33
dishes are your favorite? Thank you for
26:35
continuing to make the podcast. All the
26:37
best Connor, again, not Sea Dog
26:39
VA from California. Okinawan
26:42
food is bloody good. Have you had any? Have
26:44
you had like the pork feet? What? The luff-tig?
26:46
What? Earl, pork? For some reason,
26:48
I always get like Okinawa mixed up with Hawaii
26:50
a bit. You say, oh, I've made it off.
26:53
Definitely similar. I've eaten a lot of delicious fruit. Fruit
26:56
and rice. Yeah, the climate, the
26:58
laid-back people. Yeah,
27:00
but no, Okinawan food is really good. Luff-tig
27:02
is one of my favorites. It's like boiled
27:05
pig feet, which does sound fucked up. But
27:07
it's actually quite good. And it's not as feet,
27:10
feet heavy as you think it would look.
27:12
I don't know. Not as proper heavy, right
27:14
in the soul. Right. Okay. There's
27:17
also the Okinawa
27:19
sober, Okinawa style ramen. It's
27:23
probably the snake sake, which you
27:25
don't need to try. Okay. Just go with this.
27:29
Didn't you get given some from Jackie's dad or
27:31
something? I did, yeah. Doesn't that, yeah? No, it's
27:33
oral. Ehehe. It's
27:36
supposed to be an aphrodisiac and it's
27:38
not. It's just shit. And Spam. Spam
27:40
is popular in Okinawa. Spam! Oh,
27:43
fantastic. Yeah, but we think Spam is one
27:45
thing, but the way that they make their
27:47
Spam is just delicious. It's good.
27:49
It's good. I need
27:52
to go back to Okinawa really. I'm trying
27:54
to convince various friends and people to come
27:56
with me to Okinawa and for some reason,
27:58
nobody's like, yes, they're just like... uh... it could
28:00
be no come on let's
28:02
go it's like fucking paradise
28:04
on earth but to
28:06
be fair from jean to sort of august
28:08
don't get a okanawa i'm gonna be like
28:10
a sauna jake's shit in the
28:12
sea all day you just get up and you
28:14
just crawl into the sea like returning to the
28:17
sea exactly although jackie when i was there last
28:19
time i remember we were on that yacht it
28:21
was like we rented a yacht and we sailed
28:23
around really cool time no wonder i want to
28:25
go back and i remember there was a moment
28:27
in the video where i talked to jackie i'm
28:29
like there's no sharks in uh... okanawa
28:31
right jackie because the guy running the yacht was
28:33
like yeah don't worry no sharks and
28:35
jackie was like no sharks no but my cousin had their
28:38
arm ripped off by a shark and i was like what
28:41
it was like the story out of
28:43
nowhere this terrible terrible story popped up
28:46
if you're if you're gonna get your
28:48
arm ripped off it's gotta
28:50
be up there as the best one though isn't it you
28:52
know what i mean like if you're gonna if
28:55
you're gonna lose your arm because i'd lose it
28:57
in like a vending machine or something but i
28:59
think getting it getting it ripped
29:01
off by a shark like it's not great
29:03
whatever happens but it's better than getting caught
29:05
in machinery or getting it run over or
29:08
just losing it because you've had too much
29:10
delicious crocodile here here
29:13
and a lucky escape as well if that does
29:15
happen he managed to get away for god forbid
29:17
from the shark yeah uh... yeah i
29:19
definitely and then we went into the
29:22
sea after hearing that story and i was a little bit like and
29:25
in ocunawa i like the the sea in the uk
29:27
where it's just opaque it's just like
29:29
a muddy swamp of shit uh... and it is
29:31
literally shit now from what i understand in the
29:33
uk because all the sewage companies are pumping into
29:35
the sea awful uh...
29:38
in ocunawa the sea is transparent
29:40
and you can see like half
29:43
a kilometer into the distance which
29:45
is very awesome but also a little bit frightening it's
29:47
something it's a little bit like oh i
29:50
can see the shark coming towards me or the giant
29:52
kraten or something i don't know it was
29:54
a bit psychologically terrible this place has famously
29:56
been on like it's pretty unmapped
30:00
Anything could be in here. It's like returning
30:02
to caveman times, isn't it? They're going, oh,
30:05
someone's gonna eat me. Something's
30:07
gonna eat me. There
30:10
you go, Connor. But just be careful. Eat your way
30:13
through Okinawa, but don't be eaten by Okinawa,
30:15
whether it's a snake or a shark. And
30:17
finally, Mauia
30:19
from Moritana. Is it pronounced
30:21
Moritania? Moritania. Yeah,
30:24
Moritania. Hello, Cold
30:26
War Chris and Pearl Harbor
30:28
Peak. Pearl Harbor Peak. My
30:30
question is, are conspiracy theories
30:33
widely believed in Japan or do people trust
30:35
information from news outlets or people in authority?
30:37
Keep up the good work, Mauia
30:40
from Moritania. That's
30:43
a good question, actually. There are, yeah,
30:45
people here do believe in conspiracy theories
30:47
quite a bit, actually. But
30:50
then some of them are grounded in reality. It didn't
30:52
help that recent one, you know, when
30:54
Shinzawa Bear, the former prime minister, was
30:56
assassinated. It was
30:58
because of this, the
31:01
guy that did it, because his mum
31:03
had given money to a cult and
31:05
a really shady organization that he claimed
31:07
had infiltrated every level of Japanese political
31:09
society. And it actually had. It was
31:12
like a conspiracy theory that was real.
31:14
And I think that only added fuel
31:16
to the fire. But people do trust
31:18
the media here. I wonder
31:20
to what degree, compared to, let's
31:24
say, the UK, US, where everything's very
31:26
polarized right now. I wonder.
31:29
There's no doubt freedom of speech in Japan
31:31
has gone down in the last decade though, ever
31:33
since the aforementioned
31:35
Shinzawa Bear replaced NHK,
31:38
the guy that oversaw it, with one of his
31:40
friends who very much ripped
31:44
away NHK's credibility. A bit
31:46
like the BBC, yeah, on
31:48
steroids. And yeah, it's unfortunate.
31:51
It's unfortunate. But
31:53
that's a good question. Honestly, I don't know. I would
31:55
say it's just not to the degree of the UK
31:57
or US where we're very distrustful unless we hear something
31:59
we've been hearing. want to hear these days. Yeah
32:02
and maybe over in America and the
32:04
UK I mean I guess you can
32:07
sort of monetize conspiracy theories
32:09
more easily and perhaps
32:12
in Japan that's not really the
32:14
culture and I mean that guy
32:18
only couple of days ago committed
32:20
suicide, self-immolating basically
32:24
outside the Trump trial. Interesting,
32:26
very interesting sort of character. He
32:29
did a podcast about Laura Dern
32:31
from Jurassic Park. It
32:33
was like 4 yms or something. Laura
32:36
Dern, a weird subject for a podcast
32:38
but he was a very online chap
32:40
who was obsessed with The Simpsons and
32:42
stuff. It's a sort of bloke you'd
32:44
sort of see in like Brooklyn and
32:47
it's sort of so rare to sort of see such
32:50
extreme acts from kind of people
32:53
who I suppose would
32:55
who would that
32:57
online and that kind of like
32:59
comedic, seemingly comedically kind of tainted
33:01
I suppose. I don't know a
33:05
huge amount about that. I found it
33:07
fascinating. It was a very interesting how
33:10
that man was completely
33:12
radicalized by the right and
33:15
to the point where these kind of like when these kind
33:17
of political either pro Trump or
33:19
anti Trump stuff these
33:22
guys could sort of appear with the
33:24
manifestos. Like the rabbit hole
33:27
has gone so much further than even
33:29
you know your common or
33:31
garden dying in the wall kind of
33:34
like underground pedos on all kind of
33:36
conspiracy dearest guys would go and it's
33:39
almost like become its own language I
33:41
suppose. It's like it's very very strange.
33:43
It's a weird space
33:45
to be in and people have got... I
33:48
hate people who say you've got too much free
33:50
time. Those people are too much free. I
33:52
don't have time to talk
33:55
about New World orders. I've
33:58
got to do work. I've
34:00
got an edit podcast I'm afraid. I want
34:03
to hear Pete Dawson's new world order coming
34:05
soon to YouTube. Pete
34:08
rambling about his dog food problems, going
34:11
to the cemetery, new world order. It's
34:14
not anti-Semitic but it is anti-dog
34:16
food. Alright? Man, I don't
34:18
know. Yeah, but it's
34:20
an interesting topic though. I really should
34:22
dig a bit deeper into it all,
34:25
into how they perceive it. It's
34:28
a topic for one of those YouTube channels where they go up
34:30
to people in the street and ask them questions
34:32
about something I've yet to do. I'm
34:34
not worthy. Oh yeah, those guys who just start
34:36
to stop people. They're like, he's a pen man. Do
34:39
you like foreigners? Why do you like foreigners? You're fighting
34:41
the babes. Get out of my face. Get out. There
34:44
was a wonderful, you know those guys who
34:46
like stop people in the streets like New York
34:48
and go, hey man, what do you do for
34:51
work? You know, those kind of like people. And
34:54
there was this British bloke. And
34:56
he's walking down the street. And
34:59
I can't remember exactly how he phrased it. But
35:01
the guy goes, hey man, like he just pushes
35:03
the camera in his face and he goes, hey
35:06
man, what are you doing today? And he's like,
35:08
and he just goes, is, is, actually I've got
35:10
a smash in the face. He just goes, fuck
35:12
I'm gonna eat you. He just
35:14
like completely out of nowhere. It's
35:16
so British. It's so wonderfully London. And to
35:19
be fair, he does apologise afterwards. But it
35:21
was a very British kind of response. I
35:23
don't even know what you call that kind
35:25
of YouTuber. Boy,
35:29
you do that. Dickhead. Dickhead YouTuber. Dickhead
35:31
YouTuber. Well, I don't want to go to YouTubers.
35:34
Well, guys who like stand outside
35:36
for spring break, who just stand
35:39
outside just talking to girls just
35:41
going, are you, where are you
35:43
making a guy? Are you a 10? I
35:47
think it's all meant
35:49
to be six and five. And
35:52
it's just, oh, God, everyone's
35:54
like, oh, please. Dickhead You'll tell us a
35:56
waste that you should be out there doing
35:59
just that. and what do you
36:01
look for in the car? I feel
36:03
like you're the worst. Oh,
36:07
Donaldson's New World Order coming soon to you. Check
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36:12
comments coming out to abroadinjapanpodcast.com.
36:15
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36:17
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36:19
let us know in the YouTube comments below. Also, did you hear
36:21
at the end of the last episode, Pete, not
36:23
the one we just recorded, the one before,
36:25
in the closing credits there's a weird sound,
36:28
and all the comments about it. What the
36:30
fuck is it? I
36:32
think it's... Is
36:34
it Onomshiva that they say in
36:36
the Jones? I don't know
36:38
what it is. It's kind of
36:41
scary. I don't know.
36:43
I think when we stop talking,
36:45
we'll sort of say goodbye or I'll do
36:47
a little mumble, or you'll do a
36:49
little mumble. But I think sometimes the computer
36:52
interprets it as something else. I don't
36:54
know. It was a ghost in the machine, Christian.
36:56
Ghost in the abroadinjapan theme tune. But
36:58
for now, guys, have yourself a great few days. Check out
37:00
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37:02
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37:04
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